Y**X
发帖数: 241 | 1 大家说说实战中总结出的经验教训？我先抛砖引玉：
1/3NL or 2/5NL, assume all typical players (that is no manias, or super
loose players)
1. If it has been raised and raised pre-flop, fold JJ or under.
2. Had AT. Flop A 8 3 rb. One guy bet, another guy raised. Action to me:
Fold (correct decision). They showed on the river. The first guy had AQ, the
second guy had two pair or a set (cannot remember his exact hand).
有不同想法或意见的请赐教。 | w********1
发帖数: 1414 | 2 有教训，无经验，怎么办？
the
【在 Y**X 的大作中提到】
: 大家说说实战中总结出的经验教训？我先抛砖引玉：
: 1/3NL or 2/5NL, assume all typical players (that is no manias, or super
: loose players)
: 1. If it has been raised and raised pre-flop, fold JJ or under.
: 2. Had AT. Flop A 8 3 rb. One guy bet, another guy raised. Action to me:
: Fold (correct decision). They showed on the river. The first guy had AQ, the
: second guy had two pair or a set (cannot remember his exact hand).
: 有不同想法或意见的请赐教。
| Y**X
发帖数: 241 | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 俺最深刻的经验就是2条：
1) 如同房市的location, location, location，扑克的position, position,
position，没有再值得更重视的了，不管是什么风格。牌好牌坏，position都顶得上一
个师！有position，连bluff都是一个常见武器。因此，找座位，换座位远比换换手气
的理由大；
2)什么牌都一定争取想10秒钟，不管是fold, call, raise，脑子多转一个弯太不一样
了。
至于具体AT，JJ这样的牌，说实话，俺觉得都是非常marginal的牌，没有位置更是如此
，这种牌很难赢大锅，但是经常闯小祸。
player老大的指示，AJ这样的牌前位直接扔，但是67，哪怕是offsuit，raise。
确实，stack越深，67o这样的牌潜力越大，preflop raise先下手为强增加隐蔽性，没
hit flop也容易扔或者因地制宜(因为preflop action)。这种牌伤起人来经常是stack
的问题，比如上周贴的那个12K大锅。
the
【在 Y**X 的大作中提到】
: 大家说说实战中总结出的经验教训？我先抛砖引玉：
: 1/3NL or 2/5NL, assume all typical players (that is no manias, or super
: loose players)
: 1. If it has been raised and raised pre-flop, fold JJ or under.
: 2. Had AT. Flop A 8 3 rb. One guy bet, another guy raised. Action to me:
: Fold (correct decision). They showed on the river. The first guy had AQ, the
: second guy had two pair or a set (cannot remember his exact hand).
: 有不同想法或意见的请赐教。
| H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 5 偶印象最深的还是注意tilt, 有次偶抓住桌上一个老油条的一个漏洞一把赢了将近四百
1／2game,紧接着三条被bad beat 小输60，但情绪上的起落造成接下来的半小时打的和
平那啥似的，最后被wipe out. 现在偶在被对方bad beat或者发现自己犯错误以后都立
即停止， 等状态恢复再继续， 起码输赢都明白
【在 Y**X 的大作中提到】
: 大家说说实战中总结出的经验教训？我先抛砖引玉：
: 1/3NL or 2/5NL, assume all typical players (that is no manias, or super
: loose players)
: 1. If it has been raised and raised pre-flop, fold JJ or under.
: 2. Had AT. Flop A 8 3 rb. One guy bet, another guy raised. Action to me:
: Fold (correct decision). They showed on the river. The first guy had AQ, the
: second guy had two pair or a set (cannot remember his exact hand).
: 有不同想法或意见的请赐教。
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 6 en. It is also related to balance. Phil.G mentioned in his article, if you
only open TT+, AK , AQ in early position, your range is just too narrowed.
If flop comes 456, you will never have a set or flop the straigt. Smart
opponent can bluff you to dealth in deep stack NL game and you do not have a
chance to fight back.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 俺最深刻的经验就是2条：
: 1) 如同房市的location, location, location，扑克的position, position,
: position，没有再值得更重视的了，不管是什么风格。牌好牌坏，position都顶得上一
: 个师！有position，连bluff都是一个常见武器。因此，找座位，换座位远比换换手气
: 的理由大；
: 2)什么牌都一定争取想10秒钟，不管是fold, call, raise，脑子多转一个弯太不一样
: 了。
: 至于具体AT，JJ这样的牌，说实话，俺觉得都是非常marginal的牌，没有位置更是如此
: ，这种牌很难赢大锅，但是经常闯小祸。
: player老大的指示，AJ这样的牌前位直接扔，但是67，哪怕是offsuit，raise。
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 7 问题是现在连TT+, AK , AQ 俺都很少在前位open了，这个算不算balance?
笑死。
a
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: en. It is also related to balance. Phil.G mentioned in his article, if you
: only open TT+, AK , AQ in early position, your range is just too narrowed.
: If flop comes 456, you will never have a set or flop the straigt. Smart
: opponent can bluff you to dealth in deep stack NL game and you do not have a
: chance to fight back.
:
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 8 then do not tell me that you balance your range by folding AA UTG, lol. :)
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 问题是现在连TT+, AK , AQ 俺都很少在前位open了，这个算不算balance?
: 笑死。
:
: a
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 前位俺已经龟缩到AA，KK，QQ，AKs(sometimes)了。
1/2NL有很多时候桌子比较passive，所以一大堆可以limp的trash。
碰见爱raise，爱squeeze的，俺就数人头数，然后再做打算。
不能辜负weak tight响当当的招牌。
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
: then do not tell me that you balance your range by folding AA UTG, lol. :)
| c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 10 I disagree with raising 67 from UTG. For low stake live cash game, we just
dont need to balance. They are mostly level 1 and level 2 thinkers.
Balancing your raise with suited connectors is just overthinking yourself. | | | p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 11 depends how deep you play. for 100BB, I do not like opening 67 UTG as well.
for 200+ BB effective, it is very profitable to raise these type of hand ,
even at early postion since ppl do not usually put you on these hand.
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
: I disagree with raising 67 from UTG. For low stake live cash game, we just
: dont need to balance. They are mostly level 1 and level 2 thinkers.
: Balancing your raise with suited connectors is just overthinking yourself.
| c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 12 Yeah. And I have been playing 1/3 cap games only. The strategy there is very
different from the 5/10 deep stack games you play | Y**X
发帖数: 241 | 13 I agree with 什么牌都一定争取想10秒钟，不管是fold, call, raise.
But I don't agree with raising with 67o. The key point of playing small (
suited) connectors is to win big when you hit. But most of the time, you won
't hit. How to compensate for "not hitting most of the time'? To win big
some times. How to win big when you hit? You want more players, more callers
, more fishes in the pot! If you raise with 67o, you will get called only by
premium hands, and 95% of the time, you are beaten by those hands!
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 俺最深刻的经验就是2条：
: 1) 如同房市的location, location, location，扑克的position, position,
: position，没有再值得更重视的了，不管是什么风格。牌好牌坏，position都顶得上一
: 个师！有position，连bluff都是一个常见武器。因此，找座位，换座位远比换换手气
: 的理由大；
: 2)什么牌都一定争取想10秒钟，不管是fold, call, raise，脑子多转一个弯太不一样
: 了。
: 至于具体AT，JJ这样的牌，说实话，俺觉得都是非常marginal的牌，没有位置更是如此
: ，这种牌很难赢大锅，但是经常闯小祸。
: player老大的指示，AJ这样的牌前位直接扔，但是67，哪怕是offsuit，raise。
| Y**X
发帖数: 241 | 14 补充一点，我觉得耐心很重要！非常重要！！有时候你耐心等一两个小时，在适当的位
置，适当的时候，瞅个机会，赢把大的，也比你苦心积虑bluff点小钱来得划算。关键
是有时候你Bluff不成反失chips。
the
【在 Y**X 的大作中提到】
: 大家说说实战中总结出的经验教训？我先抛砖引玉：
: 1/3NL or 2/5NL, assume all typical players (that is no manias, or super
: loose players)
: 1. If it has been raised and raised pre-flop, fold JJ or under.
: 2. Had AT. Flop A 8 3 rb. One guy bet, another guy raised. Action to me:
: Fold (correct decision). They showed on the river. The first guy had AQ, the
: second guy had two pair or a set (cannot remember his exact hand).
: 有不同想法或意见的请赐教。
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 15 well, a few conditions for 67o, i guess:
1) not every hand of course, if we do it so often, it's not balancing any
more (i agree with chemcat in low stake this is not as important though);
2) stacks have to be deep;
3) your overall image should be close to the tight side, or ppl would give
you credits.
the goal is to lose small (preflop pots are small, 3x or 5x are actually
nothing) but win big.
won
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【在 Y**X 的大作中提到】
: I agree with 什么牌都一定争取想10秒钟，不管是fold, call, raise.
: But I don't agree with raising with 67o. The key point of playing small (
: suited) connectors is to win big when you hit. But most of the time, you won
: 't hit. How to compensate for "not hitting most of the time'? To win big
: some times. How to win big when you hit? You want more players, more callers
: , more fishes in the pot! If you raise with 67o, you will get called only by
: premium hands, and 95% of the time, you are beaten by those hands!
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