f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 1 一个昨天一起打牌的中国小伙子,技术不错,但是犯了2把大错误。
hand 1:
staddled pot (i'm UTG), he flats, 3 callers, one super LAG pops up to $40 at
BTN, i fold, he raises to $100, all fold to BTN, who instantly shoves $700+.
he tanks for a min and says "ok let's do it", calls with his $400+ stack.
board: Kxxxx
he got AKs, LAG AA.
hand 2:
same LAG opens $12 from UTG, i call with 44, he raises to $36, LAG calls, i
call (well, this is not the typical me, lol).
flop: Ks8c4c
LAG checks, i bet $60, he shoves $207, LAG folds, i have to call.
his AKo doesn't catch up and he has a hard time looking at my lucky 44.
小伙子还是个学生,昨天很郁闷,后来聊起来,问俺以后能不能stake他,俺说可以考
虑。 | p****r 发帖数: 9164 | 2 lol. are you serious about staking 1-2 NL game?
at
700+.
i
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : 一个昨天一起打牌的中国小伙子,技术不错,但是犯了2把大错误。 : hand 1: : staddled pot (i'm UTG), he flats, 3 callers, one super LAG pops up to $40 at : BTN, i fold, he raises to $100, all fold to BTN, who instantly shoves $700+. : he tanks for a min and says "ok let's do it", calls with his $400+ stack. : board: Kxxxx : he got AKs, LAG AA. : hand 2: : same LAG opens $12 from UTG, i call with 44, he raises to $36, LAG calls, i : call (well, this is not the typical me, lol).
| f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 3 maybe maybe, lol.
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】 : lol. are you serious about staking 1-2 NL game? : : at : 700+. : i
| c*****t 发帖数: 817 | 4 I have to say that his hand 1 was played in a horrible, horrible way. He was
not even clear about whether his repop was for value or bluff. Otherwise he
would not have tanked for so long. AKs is just too good to turn into a
bluff, and too weak to repop for value with a 200BBs stack OOP.
Against a crazy LAG, he should have smoothly called with AKs, and simply
check call 3 streets if he hits the flop. Otherwise simply fold on the flop.
Personally, I feel that this player is not a good target for staking. He is
probably one of those kind of players who like to play tricky but often
trick himself.
I like your call in hand 2. Set mining is always a good thing to do. It is just a small mistake when the raise was
too big. But psychologically it feels so good when you hit and stack your opponent. NL poker is not a game for
perfection so it is fine to take slightly -EV actions. | W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 5 Stake 他不如coach 他, 收点小钱。
一个昨天一起打牌的中国小伙子,技术不错,但是犯了2把大错误。hand 1:staddled
pot (i'm UTG), he flats, 3 callers, one su........
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【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : 一个昨天一起打牌的中国小伙子,技术不错,但是犯了2把大错误。 : hand 1: : staddled pot (i'm UTG), he flats, 3 callers, one super LAG pops up to $40 at : BTN, i fold, he raises to $100, all fold to BTN, who instantly shoves $700+. : he tanks for a min and says "ok let's do it", calls with his $400+ stack. : board: Kxxxx : he got AKs, LAG AA. : hand 2: : same LAG opens $12 from UTG, i call with 44, he raises to $36, LAG calls, i : call (well, this is not the typical me, lol).
| W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 6 unless he knows you very well, i dont think there is any thing wrong with
hand 2. But I would probably make it 45$ to go with 2 person in.
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.36 | f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 7 小伙子说要coach俺呢,呵呵。
他只打了2年,不犯那2把错误的话,还是不错的,这点俺同意。
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : Stake 他不如coach 他, 收点小钱。 : : 一个昨天一起打牌的中国小伙子,技术不错,但是犯了2把大错误。hand 1:staddled : pot (i'm UTG), he flats, 3 callers, one su........ : ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.36
| f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 8 hand 1小伙子为这把牌郁闷了2小时,呵呵,在外面让他哥们儿给劈头盖脸的骂没脑赌
性太强。
hand 2他比较气愤俺44 call $36,俺解释说这绝对不是俺的常规,呵呵,上礼拜俺
fold 44 preflop (422 flop) to $15 bet。
具体这把牌,俺瞄着的是UTG那个孙子,而不是他,$12 call太正常了(俺有$400+),结
果他自己跑进来,$36真的偏低了,UTG($1K+)一跟,俺大概是1:4的odds,call真的也
不是难事,flop hit or miss的问题。
他的解释是他觉得$36就够了,足够给俺这个caller信号,他的牌强,然后指望UTG
call,俺fold。
这点俺不敢苟同。
至于flop shove倒是问题不大。
was
he
flop.
is
is just a small mistake when the raise was
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】 : I have to say that his hand 1 was played in a horrible, horrible way. He was : not even clear about whether his repop was for value or bluff. Otherwise he : would not have tanked for so long. AKs is just too good to turn into a : bluff, and too weak to repop for value with a 200BBs stack OOP. : Against a crazy LAG, he should have smoothly called with AKs, and simply : check call 3 streets if he hits the flop. Otherwise simply fold on the flop. : Personally, I feel that this player is not a good target for staking. He is : probably one of those kind of players who like to play tricky but often : trick himself. : I like your call in hand 2. Set mining is always a good thing to do. It is just a small mistake when the raise was
| p****r 发帖数: 9164 | 9 I do not have enough experience of playing these 100 cap game. But for
deep stack NL game, shoving with pair hand against a donk leading usually a
suicide move.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : unless he knows you very well, i dont think there is any thing wrong with : hand 2. But I would probably make it 45$ to go with 2 person in. : ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs Lite 7.36
| W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 10 ?? 200 stack with 100$ in the pot. what are you talking about?
deep stack is of course different. Even fish will not shove 1k into this
with top pair over donk bet..
usually
a
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】 : I do not have enough experience of playing these 100 cap game. But for : deep stack NL game, shoving with pair hand against a donk leading usually a : suicide move.
| | | f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 11 NL真是如rounders里面说的,一把牌一把错误能让一个不错的选手顿时变成毛驴,"you
don't gamble..."
太多这种small stake的玩家,好好的stack,坐了2,3小时没牌,然后莫明其妙的也
tilt了,卷入一些大pots,然后“轻松”回家。
a
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】 : I do not have enough experience of playing these 100 cap game. But for : deep stack NL game, shoving with pair hand against a donk leading usually a : suicide move.
| s*********f 发帖数: 155 | 12 "Maybe, maybe" is a nice non-confrontational move in conversation.
But honestly I don't think you will ever see your money again if you stake
him.
at
700+.
i
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : 一个昨天一起打牌的中国小伙子,技术不错,但是犯了2把大错误。 : hand 1: : staddled pot (i'm UTG), he flats, 3 callers, one super LAG pops up to $40 at : BTN, i fold, he raises to $100, all fold to BTN, who instantly shoves $700+. : he tanks for a min and says "ok let's do it", calls with his $400+ stack. : board: Kxxxx : he got AKs, LAG AA. : hand 2: : same LAG opens $12 from UTG, i call with 44, he raises to $36, LAG calls, i : call (well, this is not the typical me, lol).
| d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 13 同志们 这个小伙子很有可能也在这里潜水 just dont be too harsh
couple of hundreds to learn a lesson is not too bad, imo | f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 14 true, i told him to find us here, lol.
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】 : 同志们 这个小伙子很有可能也在这里潜水 just dont be too harsh : couple of hundreds to learn a lesson is not too bad, imo
| f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 15 well, i think it over again and don't think i'd feel comfortable with
someone losing my money at all, or, even just taking risks.
【在 s*********f 的大作中提到】 : "Maybe, maybe" is a nice non-confrontational move in conversation. : But honestly I don't think you will ever see your money again if you stake : him. : : at : 700+. : i
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