j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 1 current forms are full of errors and arguments. | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 2 Religion are just bunch of lies.
I do believe Jesus is Son of God and there is only one God, the Father and
Holy Spirit (probably the Mother, not sure).
Then there are Angels, Satan and Demons.
But where is abundant life that Jesus promised, churches are making people
weak and sick and dead. | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 3 My church will not have sermons, just brotherhood and sisterhood.
People help each other to survive in a Foreign Country.
We will discuss useful Truth. Truth that can help make our lives better.
Learn wisdom and knowledge that can make us prosper.
Build businesses together.
Share trade secrets. | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 4 There will be no paying pastor. only sale tickets for activities. | J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 5 Interesting idea!
Your understanding of Bible is not new however. It will also bring arguments
and errors.I have no idea why you need the name of God to build such an
congregation. You can call it some club or assembly.
However, it may actually work. I am looking forward to see your results.
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: current forms are full of errors and arguments.
| c*******u
发帖数: 640 | 6 基督徒聚会所，我接触过，没有牧师但有组织的人，更靠信心来生活，更深入到基层（
大学） | j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 7 We definitely need wisdom from God, He is the creator and keeper and He
created us and the universe.
In order to survive in this universe, we need Him.
But what we don't need is lies and brain wash that make us poorer, weaker
and depressed.
We need to learn useful stuff that can make us healthier, richer and happier.
arguments
【在 J*******g 的大作中提到】
: Interesting idea!
: Your understanding of Bible is not new however. It will also bring arguments
: and errors.I have no idea why you need the name of God to build such an
: congregation. You can call it some club or assembly.
: However, it may actually work. I am looking forward to see your results.
| c***a
发帖数: 133 | 8 I think there are churchs/pastors like what you described -- they preach
prosperity.
If you believe in Jesus so that you can get the useful stuff, does it mean
the useful stuff is more important than Jesus? (It does not mean the useful
stuff is not important.)
If the happiness, money, or health is the ultimate goal, why not just
worship them instead of God? That is why to me prosperity preaching does not
make sense.
happier.
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: We definitely need wisdom from God, He is the creator and keeper and He
: created us and the universe.
: In order to survive in this universe, we need Him.
: But what we don't need is lies and brain wash that make us poorer, weaker
: and depressed.
: We need to learn useful stuff that can make us healthier, richer and happier.
:
: arguments
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 9 Does God mean non-prosperity?
Which is closer to the Truth? prosperity or non-prosperity?
Does God gave Abraham prosperity or non-prosperity?
Sure if God want non-prosperity for His people, then I will take that.
But what if the teachings about God have many errors.
And we live in errors, suffered and die poor.
Then we meet God, and ask Him why?
He said I told you I will give you abundant life, but you choose to believe
the lies. Your suffered your own stupidity.
We have only one chance to live, do just believe anything.
Don't believe poor, sickness and suffering is good.
Don't switch black and white, good and bad, right and wrong.
useful
not
【在 c***a 的大作中提到】
: I think there are churchs/pastors like what you described -- they preach
: prosperity.
: If you believe in Jesus so that you can get the useful stuff, does it mean
: the useful stuff is more important than Jesus? (It does not mean the useful
: stuff is not important.)
: If the happiness, money, or health is the ultimate goal, why not just
: worship them instead of God? That is why to me prosperity preaching does not
: make sense.
:
: happier.
| c***a
发帖数: 133 | 10 I know many mega churches preach prosperity with tens thousands members.
The teaching does not speak me. I can’t say what people’s intentions are
… to know God or to get stuff? Human hearts are the most deceive places.
Many times I have to examine myself to identify underlying self-serving
motives. I do know if I place Jesus as the center and Lord of my life, it is
easier to distinguish truth from lies. I don’t enjoy suffering, but God
gives me strength during the difficult times.
believe
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: Does God mean non-prosperity?
: Which is closer to the Truth? prosperity or non-prosperity?
: Does God gave Abraham prosperity or non-prosperity?
: Sure if God want non-prosperity for His people, then I will take that.
: But what if the teachings about God have many errors.
: And we live in errors, suffered and die poor.
: Then we meet God, and ask Him why?
: He said I told you I will give you abundant life, but you choose to believe
: the lies. Your suffered your own stupidity.
: We have only one chance to live, do just believe anything.
| J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 11 But, as you may know, as long as you draw ideas from the Bible, there will
be arguments and errors on what is exactly the wisdom from God.
happier.
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】
: We definitely need wisdom from God, He is the creator and keeper and He
: created us and the universe.
: In order to survive in this universe, we need Him.
: But what we don't need is lies and brain wash that make us poorer, weaker
: and depressed.
: We need to learn useful stuff that can make us healthier, richer and happier.
:
: arguments
| j*****5
发帖数: 5135 | 12 I used to believe God the same way as you do.
But lately, I've been thinking, what if God really want us to have great and
happy and healthy lives, not the sick poor and suffering life.
What if the sick poor and suffering life is what the devil want us to be.
God is good and God want us to have good lives.
Our believe system maybe compromised by devil's lies.
are
is
【在 c***a 的大作中提到】
: I know many mega churches preach prosperity with tens thousands members.
: The teaching does not speak me. I can’t say what people’s intentions are
: … to know God or to get stuff? Human hearts are the most deceive places.
: Many times I have to examine myself to identify underlying self-serving
: motives. I do know if I place Jesus as the center and Lord of my life, it is
: easier to distinguish truth from lies. I don’t enjoy suffering, but God
: gives me strength during the difficult times.
:
: believe
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