m********7 发帖数: 161 | 1 第一点自然是个人利益,如果你接下来几年是你人生奋斗而且赚钱的青壮年时期,自然
是要支持提倡减税的政党,那就是共和党
第二点自然是个人自由,如果你不希望看到办公室里很多拖着大屁股的员工而且办事效
率低的政府,自然是要支持提倡小政府的政党,那就是共和党。
第三点就是如果你是个坚持原则的人,比如传统的婚姻,家庭价值观,个人奋斗精神,
那你自然是倾向共和党
第四点就是如果你没有文艺2B倾向,而是理性务实的性格,那你很大程度上应该是
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 2 呵呵, 说得很好. 同支持.
如果你不是同性恋病人,也不吃政府福利的, 那么你一定会支持Romney. |
l******x 发帖数: 1697 | 3 re
【在 m********7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 第一点自然是个人利益,如果你接下来几年是你人生奋斗而且赚钱的青壮年时期,自然 : 是要支持提倡减税的政党,那就是共和党 : 第二点自然是个人自由,如果你不希望看到办公室里很多拖着大屁股的员工而且办事效 : 率低的政府,自然是要支持提倡小政府的政党,那就是共和党。 : 第三点就是如果你是个坚持原则的人,比如传统的婚姻,家庭价值观,个人奋斗精神, : 那你自然是倾向共和党 : 第四点就是如果你没有文艺2B倾向,而是理性务实的性格,那你很大程度上应该是 : 个共和党人。
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P*********0 发帖数: 4321 | 4 "自然是要支持提倡小政府的政党,那就是共和党"
tell me which GOP administration became smaller |
c******i 发帖数: 4091 | 5 发信人: chichazi (吃叉子), 信区: USANews
标 题: 民主党为了均贫富,反对查FED假账,点解?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 27 14:58:49 2012, 美东)
这个题目比“社会主义倒牛奶和资本主义倒牛奶的区别”更难。
至今没有一个烂香蕉能帮侯赛因舔干净。呵呵
(Reuters) - Legislation to subject the Federal Reserve's monetary policy to
audits sailed through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday
although the measure is expected to die in the Democrat-controlled Senate.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/25/us-usa-fed-audit-idUS
民主党自绝于人民了。
70 Percent of Americans Favor Auditing the Federal Reserve
http://reason.com/poll/2012/09/27/70-percent-of-americans-favor
【在 P*********0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "自然是要支持提倡小政府的政党,那就是共和党" : tell me which GOP administration became smaller
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l******a 发帖数: 3803 | 6
to
very strong point made.
only the maggots who are committed to stealing other's money do not care how
the money is spent.
【在 c******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 发信人: chichazi (吃叉子), 信区: USANews : 标 题: 民主党为了均贫富,反对查FED假账,点解? : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 27 14:58:49 2012, 美东) : 这个题目比“社会主义倒牛奶和资本主义倒牛奶的区别”更难。 : 至今没有一个烂香蕉能帮侯赛因舔干净。呵呵 : (Reuters) - Legislation to subject the Federal Reserve's monetary policy to : audits sailed through the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday : although the measure is expected to die in the Democrat-controlled Senate. : http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/25/us-usa-fed-audit-idUS : 民主党自绝于人民了。
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m********e 发帖数: 148 | 7 Four more years for o8 and 51% people will be on government paycheck. USA
will be gone for capitalism forever. We all go back to China, or Mars. Only
五毛 are happy then! Vote down o8!!!
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 呵呵, 说得很好. 同支持. : 如果你不是同性恋病人,也不吃政府福利的, 那么你一定会支持Romney.
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x****a 发帖数: 817 | 8 得了吧,GOP早死早超生。
现在还不相信进化论,早就应该进历史的垃圾堆了。就这一条就秒杀您的N条。
【在 m********7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 第一点自然是个人利益,如果你接下来几年是你人生奋斗而且赚钱的青壮年时期,自然 : 是要支持提倡减税的政党,那就是共和党 : 第二点自然是个人自由,如果你不希望看到办公室里很多拖着大屁股的员工而且办事效 : 率低的政府,自然是要支持提倡小政府的政党,那就是共和党。 : 第三点就是如果你是个坚持原则的人,比如传统的婚姻,家庭价值观,个人奋斗精神, : 那你自然是倾向共和党 : 第四点就是如果你没有文艺2B倾向,而是理性务实的性格,那你很大程度上应该是 : 个共和党人。
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s********t 发帖数: 4150 | 9 班上有为amigo和gay摇旗呐喊的libertards,见多了也不稀罕.
您可真是稀有物种。先不说进化论是不是真科学,since when did it become part of
a political campaign?
【在 x****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 得了吧,GOP早死早超生。 : 现在还不相信进化论,早就应该进历史的垃圾堆了。就这一条就秒杀您的N条。
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x****a 发帖数: 817 | 10 "窥一斑可见全豹". 二十一世纪的人,有理由为中世纪的政党投票么?
用脚趾头想想,就能看到这有多荒谬。
民主党确实有缺点,但是买糕的,咱也不能这么朴素啊。。。
of
【在 s********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 班上有为amigo和gay摇旗呐喊的libertards,见多了也不稀罕. : 您可真是稀有物种。先不说进化论是不是真科学,since when did it become part of : a political campaign?
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s********t 发帖数: 4150 | 11 您这脚指头,俺实在不敢苟同。
At least you are trying to make a point, I'll give you that. 比那个满嘴喷粪
的pooper强多了。
【在 x****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "窥一斑可见全豹". 二十一世纪的人,有理由为中世纪的政党投票么? : 用脚趾头想想,就能看到这有多荒谬。 : 民主党确实有缺点,但是买糕的,咱也不能这么朴素啊。。。 : : of
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d****i 发帖数: 4354 | 12 什么叫中世纪政党?基本上所有的美国总统,不管是哪一党,都是基督徒,你这个说法
很虚伪吧?
【在 x****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "窥一斑可见全豹". 二十一世纪的人,有理由为中世纪的政党投票么? : 用脚趾头想想,就能看到这有多荒谬。 : 民主党确实有缺点,但是买糕的,咱也不能这么朴素啊。。。 : : of
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s********t 发帖数: 4150 | 13 顺便说一句,您这口“与时俱进”,怎么听着似曾相识亚?:P
【在 x****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "窥一斑可见全豹". 二十一世纪的人,有理由为中世纪的政党投票么? : 用脚趾头想想,就能看到这有多荒谬。 : 民主党确实有缺点,但是买糕的,咱也不能这么朴素啊。。。 : : of
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b*******n 发帖数: 8420 | 14 建议你先学习一下民主党在历史上对于蓄奴的观点再判断哪个是中世纪的政党
【在 x****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "窥一斑可见全豹". 二十一世纪的人,有理由为中世纪的政党投票么? : 用脚趾头想想,就能看到这有多荒谬。 : 民主党确实有缺点,但是买糕的,咱也不能这么朴素啊。。。 : : of
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r*****g 发帖数: 104 | 15 My vote goes to Obama Care.
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x****a 发帖数: 817 | 16 我生活在二十一世纪,您的历史观点不RELEVANT。
【在 b*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 建议你先学习一下民主党在历史上对于蓄奴的观点再判断哪个是中世纪的政党
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x****a 发帖数: 817 | 17 我也听过32郎的"无所谓"啊:)
【在 s********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 顺便说一句,您这口“与时俱进”,怎么听着似曾相识亚?:P
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x****a 发帖数: 817 | 18 The Pope,就是穿衣服特别FANCY的那位,算不算基督徒?
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 什么叫中世纪政党?基本上所有的美国总统,不管是哪一党,都是基督徒,你这个说法 : 很虚伪吧?
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x****a 发帖数: 817 | 19 Thanks for your encouragement!
【在 s********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 您这脚指头,俺实在不敢苟同。 : At least you are trying to make a point, I'll give you that. 比那个满嘴喷粪 : 的pooper强多了。
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m********e 发帖数: 148 | 20 LOL about Obamacare. When you become 70 years old and need knee replacement
due to arthritis, Obama will tell you that you are too old for that. Get
you pain medication and sit on your wheelchair!
【在 r*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My vote goes to Obama Care. : No fear when I am 50+.
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c****i 发帖数: 7933 | 21 进化论进入社会叫做社会达尔文主义,你去问问有几个民主党朋友敢支持这个的?
【在 x****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 得了吧,GOP早死早超生。 : 现在还不相信进化论,早就应该进历史的垃圾堆了。就这一条就秒杀您的N条。
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k****g 发帖数: 1509 | 22 Hey Monkey girl/boy. Get out of human being.
【在 x****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 得了吧,GOP早死早超生。 : 现在还不相信进化论,早就应该进历史的垃圾堆了。就这一条就秒杀您的N条。
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n*********9 发帖数: 954 | |
k***n 发帖数: 3158 | 24 If Ron Paul was on the GOP, ticket. Yes
Romney replacing Obama? lol, you better wish there would be a difference
Only
【在 m********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Four more years for o8 and 51% people will be on government paycheck. USA : will be gone for capitalism forever. We all go back to China, or Mars. Only : 五毛 are happy then! Vote down o8!!!
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m********e 发帖数: 148 | 25 Mitt for 8 years then Ryan for 8 more years. Liberals will be in hell
forever. If you think government can do better than yourself, go back to
China, or vote for o8 then go to Mars!
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : If Ron Paul was on the GOP, ticket. Yes : Romney replacing Obama? lol, you better wish there would be a difference : : Only
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m********e 发帖数: 148 | 26 Mitt is not a good choice but better than o8. My candidate is Herman, but we
have to make a choice between Mitt and o8-be realistic!
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : If Ron Paul was on the GOP, ticket. Yes : Romney replacing Obama? lol, you better wish there would be a difference : : Only
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m********e 发帖数: 148 | 27 Liberals think gay is okay. Well I could argue I can marry my dog one day,
or my neighbor's horse. Why not? We have lived man/women marriage forever
and we did not have issue. If someone wants to be gays, don't tell me it is
genetics. I know Canadians did some research. But who care? They want to
marry, fine with me but don't ever try to sell that crap to me or the rest
of society.
we
【在 m********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Mitt is not a good choice but better than o8. My candidate is Herman, but we : have to make a choice between Mitt and o8-be realistic!
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c****n 发帖数: 21367 | 28 Romney到现在为止poll落后的一个很重要原因就是,
他在很大一部分基督徒(天主教,东正教,新教)眼中不是基督徒
不信你可以就在本站的基督徒版面做一个调查,
看看有多少人认为摩门教是基督教的分支
当然,所有政客和所有美国总统都是不信教的,只是表面上有个宗教信仰而已
Romney这个表面功夫都做不到位,是个悲剧。
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 什么叫中世纪政党?基本上所有的美国总统,不管是哪一党,都是基督徒,你这个说法 : 很虚伪吧?
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s******r 发帖数: 1524 | 29 If you are already 50, why not.
If you are 45 or younger, I do wonder Obama Care can survive to your 50.
【在 r*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My vote goes to Obama Care. : No fear when I am 50+.
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c****n 发帖数: 21367 | 30 no matter who becomes the next US prez
medicare is a Ponzi scheme and is going to bankrupt very soon
just think about a rule
medicare's income almost solely comes from tax of the next generation
this is the single most important character of Ponzi schemes
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : If you are already 50, why not. : If you are 45 or younger, I do wonder Obama Care can survive to your 50.
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j******6 发帖数: 109 | 31 选错人了,Romney can not bring any of these to you.
He can bring you:
1)no jobs, his job creation ranked 47th among 50 states when he's governor
of MA.
2)high tax for middle class, he raised property tax 24% on average in MA by
reducing school aid.
【在 m********7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 第一点自然是个人利益,如果你接下来几年是你人生奋斗而且赚钱的青壮年时期,自然 : 是要支持提倡减税的政党,那就是共和党 : 第二点自然是个人自由,如果你不希望看到办公室里很多拖着大屁股的员工而且办事效 : 率低的政府,自然是要支持提倡小政府的政党,那就是共和党。 : 第三点就是如果你是个坚持原则的人,比如传统的婚姻,家庭价值观,个人奋斗精神, : 那你自然是倾向共和党 : 第四点就是如果你没有文艺2B倾向,而是理性务实的性格,那你很大程度上应该是 : 个共和党人。
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j*******n 发帖数: 3254 | 32 re
【在 m********7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 第一点自然是个人利益,如果你接下来几年是你人生奋斗而且赚钱的青壮年时期,自然 : 是要支持提倡减税的政党,那就是共和党 : 第二点自然是个人自由,如果你不希望看到办公室里很多拖着大屁股的员工而且办事效 : 率低的政府,自然是要支持提倡小政府的政党,那就是共和党。 : 第三点就是如果你是个坚持原则的人,比如传统的婚姻,家庭价值观,个人奋斗精神, : 那你自然是倾向共和党 : 第四点就是如果你没有文艺2B倾向,而是理性务实的性格,那你很大程度上应该是 : 个共和党人。
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j*******n 发帖数: 3254 | 33 re
估计过一会,他该说出三个代表了!
【在 s********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 顺便说一句,您这口“与时俱进”,怎么听着似曾相识亚?:P
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d*****s 发帖数: 5610 | 34 没错,板上很多想投romney的都是属于gullible的,耳朵软的,特喜欢听人家吹牛,从
来不看人家到底怎么做的。
共和党一直吹牛,在create job上面,比民主党差的太多了,另外共和党在股市回报率
上,也比民主党差的太多,这些都是有历史数据证明的。
这个和当时那些投小布什的人一样,全是朝三暮四里面的猴子,被骗了还不知道。
Romney上台要做的税收计划,就是给millionair减税,然后废掉home mortgage
deduction,local and state tax deduction,property tax deduction,结果中产阶
级一算,虽然marginal税率低了,但是taxable income上升很多,总额上升,并且可能
还会升到更高的marginal tax rate bracket,交的税反倒上升了。
最简单的例子是如果gross income是20万,在现在itemized deduction下面把home
mortgage interest,property tax,其他deduction扣了,可能taxable income就14万
,top marginal rate 是25%. 可是在Romney计划里面,itemized deduction扣不了那
么多,只扣了2万,结果taxable income要18万,反倒是归于更高的marginal tax rate
,结果交了更高的税,哭都来不及。
Romney再来个减少联邦政府对local的教育补贴,减少联邦政府对local
transportation补贴,可惜local 政府也要花钱啊,结果只能提高local income tax和
property tax。到最后倒霉的又是中产。
最后结果是,Romney上台后,federal marginal tax rate下降,但是taxable income
上升,中产federal tax上升,地方政府income tax上升,property tax上升,各项支
出也会上升。
by
【在 j******6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 选错人了,Romney can not bring any of these to you. : He can bring you: : 1)no jobs, his job creation ranked 47th among 50 states when he's governor : of MA. : 2)high tax for middle class, he raised property tax 24% on average in MA by : reducing school aid.
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k***n 发帖数: 3158 | 35 your choice is the FED insider, Herman, lol
realisticly, the two have no difference
we
【在 m********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Mitt is not a good choice but better than o8. My candidate is Herman, but we : have to make a choice between Mitt and o8-be realistic!
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m********7 发帖数: 161 | 36 我深表赞同,我一直认为他的摩门教背景是其民调落后以及可能落选的真正原因。
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Romney到现在为止poll落后的一个很重要原因就是, : 他在很大一部分基督徒(天主教,东正教,新教)眼中不是基督徒 : 不信你可以就在本站的基督徒版面做一个调查, : 看看有多少人认为摩门教是基督教的分支 : 当然,所有政客和所有美国总统都是不信教的,只是表面上有个宗教信仰而已 : Romney这个表面功夫都做不到位,是个悲剧。
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m********7 发帖数: 161 | 37 您这个数据不错,说得也很有道理,谢谢,不过,我年年自己填税,感到要把gross
income20万Itemized deduction 到14万好像是件很困难的事情,能够到16万都已经不
容易了。另外,home mortgage deduction带来的税收好处,一下子就让AMT抵消掉了。
到头来税是高了还是低了,要找几个实际例子来算算才行。
以下是Romney税收Plan的一个总结:
Description of Plan
Governor Romney would permanently extend all the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts now
scheduled to expire in 2013, repeal the AMT and certain tax provisions in
the 2010 health reform legislation, and cut individual income tax rates by
an additional 20 percent. He would also expand the tax base by cutting back
tax preferences, but has supplied no information on which preferences would
be reduced. Tax provisions in the 2009 stimulus act and subsequently
extended through 2012 would expire. These include the American Opportunity
tax credit for higher education, the expanded refundability of the child
credit, and the expansion of the earned income tax credit (EITC). The plan
would also eliminate tax on long-term capital gains, dividends, and interest
income for married couples filing jointly with income under $200,000 ($100,
000 for single filers and $150,000 for heads of household) and repeal the
federal estate tax, while continuing the gift tax with a maximum tax rate of
35 percent.2
The plan would reduce the six current income tax rates by one-fifth,
bringing the top rate down from 35 percent to 28 percent and the bottom rate
from 10 percent to 8 percent. The accompanying repeal of the AMT would
increase the tax savings from the rate cuts—without that repeal, the AMT
would reclaim much of the tax savings.
The plan would recoup the revenue loss caused by those changes by reducing
or eliminating unspecified tax breaks, thereby making more income subject to
tax. Gov. Romney says that the reductions in tax breaks, in combination
with moderately faster economic growth brought about by lower tax rates,
will make the individual income tax changes revenue neutral compared with
simply extending the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. He also promises that low- and
middle-income households will pay no larger shares of federal taxes than
they do now.
At the corporate level, the Romney plan would make two major changes: 1)
reduce the corporate income tax rate from 35 to 25 percent and 2) make the
research and experimentation credit permanent, It would also extend for one
year the full expensing of capital expenditures and allow a “tax holiday”
for the repatriation of corporate profits held overseas. The plan does not
specify, however, whether repatriated earnings would face any tax and, if so
, at what rate. In the longer run, Gov. Romney would reduce the corporate
rate further in conjunction with base broadening and simplification and
would move the corporate tax to a territorial system.
Gov. Romney would also permanently repeal the 0.9 percent tax on wages and
the 3.8 percent tax on investment income of high-income individual taxpayers
that were imposed by the 2010 health reform legislation and are scheduled
to take effect in 2013.
Because Gov. Romney has not specified how he would increase the tax base, it
is impossible to determine how the plan would affect federal tax revenues
or the distribution of the tax burden. TPC has analyzed instead the effects
of the specified proposals in the Romney plan. These estimates provide a
guide as to how much the base broadening would need to raise taxes in
different income groups to achieve the plan’s targets.
TPC’s analysis measures the change in tax liabilities against two
alternative baselines: current law, which assumes that the 2001-10 tax cuts
all expire in 2013 as scheduled, and current policy, which assumes that the
2011 law is permanent (except for the one-year payroll tax cut and temporary
investment incentives).3 Compared with the current law baseline, the Romney
plan (absent base broadening) would cut taxes for about three-fourths of
taxpayers by an average of more than $7,000. In contrast, compared with
current policy, about 11 percent of tax units would see their 2015 taxes go
up an average of nearly $900 while 70 percent would get tax cuts averaging
almost $4,300. The tax increases reflect the expiration of three provisions
enacted in 2009: the American Opportunity Tax Credit and the expansion of
the earned income credit and the child credit.
Also in the absence of such base broadening, TPC estimates that on a static
basis, the Romney plan would lower federal tax liability by about $900
billion in calendar year 2015 compared with current law, roughly a 24
percent cut in total projected revenue. Relative to a current policy
baseline, the reduction in liability would be about $480 billion in calendar
year 2015.
【在 d*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 没错,板上很多想投romney的都是属于gullible的,耳朵软的,特喜欢听人家吹牛,从 : 来不看人家到底怎么做的。 : 共和党一直吹牛,在create job上面,比民主党差的太多了,另外共和党在股市回报率 : 上,也比民主党差的太多,这些都是有历史数据证明的。 : 这个和当时那些投小布什的人一样,全是朝三暮四里面的猴子,被骗了还不知道。 : Romney上台要做的税收计划,就是给millionair减税,然后废掉home mortgage : deduction,local and state tax deduction,property tax deduction,结果中产阶 : 级一算,虽然marginal税率低了,但是taxable income上升很多,总额上升,并且可能 : 还会升到更高的marginal tax rate bracket,交的税反倒上升了。 : 最简单的例子是如果gross income是20万,在现在itemized deduction下面把home
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d*****n 发帖数: 2132 | 38 if your view of the world is still either black or white, then you are not
responsible voter.
【在 m********7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 第一点自然是个人利益,如果你接下来几年是你人生奋斗而且赚钱的青壮年时期,自然 : 是要支持提倡减税的政党,那就是共和党 : 第二点自然是个人自由,如果你不希望看到办公室里很多拖着大屁股的员工而且办事效 : 率低的政府,自然是要支持提倡小政府的政党,那就是共和党。 : 第三点就是如果你是个坚持原则的人,比如传统的婚姻,家庭价值观,个人奋斗精神, : 那你自然是倾向共和党 : 第四点就是如果你没有文艺2B倾向,而是理性务实的性格,那你很大程度上应该是 : 个共和党人。
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m********7 发帖数: 161 | 39 Where is the color issue you can find in my post here?
【在 d*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : if your view of the world is still either black or white, then you are not : responsible voter.
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a*********a 发帖数: 3656 | 40 you obviously have not heard of a thing called alternative minimum tax. 200k
to claim 60k deduction? you wish.
please do not speak for those of us who actually make above 200k/250k.
how local cope with lowered tax? easy, fire Union Teachers. Where I live,
there are unionized and none unionzed school districts, the none union
districts have property tax about half of those unioned ones.
mortgage interest, property tax,其他deduction扣了,可能taxable income就14万
【在 d*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 没错,板上很多想投romney的都是属于gullible的,耳朵软的,特喜欢听人家吹牛,从 : 来不看人家到底怎么做的。 : 共和党一直吹牛,在create job上面,比民主党差的太多了,另外共和党在股市回报率 : 上,也比民主党差的太多,这些都是有历史数据证明的。 : 这个和当时那些投小布什的人一样,全是朝三暮四里面的猴子,被骗了还不知道。 : Romney上台要做的税收计划,就是给millionair减税,然后废掉home mortgage : deduction,local and state tax deduction,property tax deduction,结果中产阶 : 级一算,虽然marginal税率低了,但是taxable income上升很多,总额上升,并且可能 : 还会升到更高的marginal tax rate bracket,交的税反倒上升了。 : 最简单的例子是如果gross income是20万,在现在itemized deduction下面把home
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K******S 发帖数: 10109 | 41 how old are you now?
【在 r*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My vote goes to Obama Care. : No fear when I am 50+.
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d*****s 发帖数: 5610 | 43 这么说吧,在美国的少数民族中,最牛的就是犹太人和印度人了,跟犹太人和印度人投
票没错,他们算的最清楚。你想到的,他们早就想到了;你没有想到的,他们也想到了。
now
back
【在 m********7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 您这个数据不错,说得也很有道理,谢谢,不过,我年年自己填税,感到要把gross : income20万Itemized deduction 到14万好像是件很困难的事情,能够到16万都已经不 : 容易了。另外,home mortgage deduction带来的税收好处,一下子就让AMT抵消掉了。 : 到头来税是高了还是低了,要找几个实际例子来算算才行。 : 以下是Romney税收Plan的一个总结: : Description of Plan : Governor Romney would permanently extend all the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts now : scheduled to expire in 2013, repeal the AMT and certain tax provisions in : the 2010 health reform legislation, and cut individual income tax rates by : an additional 20 percent. He would also expand the tax base by cutting back
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s*********e 发帖数: 4475 | 46 re
【在 m********7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 第一点自然是个人利益,如果你接下来几年是你人生奋斗而且赚钱的青壮年时期,自然 : 是要支持提倡减税的政党,那就是共和党 : 第二点自然是个人自由,如果你不希望看到办公室里很多拖着大屁股的员工而且办事效 : 率低的政府,自然是要支持提倡小政府的政党,那就是共和党。 : 第三点就是如果你是个坚持原则的人,比如传统的婚姻,家庭价值观,个人奋斗精神, : 那你自然是倾向共和党 : 第四点就是如果你没有文艺2B倾向,而是理性务实的性格,那你很大程度上应该是 : 个共和党人。
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U******l 发帖数: 21 | 48 For most Chinese readers of this article, choosing Romney would mean a
heavy financial loss. You would end up with paying much more tax and at the
same time receive less benefits. Check out the facts below.
It does not matter if Romney looks smarter. If you do not want your hard-
earned money to be
stolen into his (and other rich people's) pocket, then do something about it
.
I have started contributing $5.82 to Obama from now on, as suggested by 80-
20 http://admin.80-20nj.info/cgi/80/e?l=8/12ob/f&w=no. I am not a person with strong political opinion, but I felt I have to do something this time.
------------------- Romney's tax policy
From http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/24/even-mitt-romney-admits-hell-need-to-raise-taxes-on-the-middle-class/
The Harvard study was done by economist Martin Feldstein, and he makes a
very important decision in his paper. He writes, “I think it is very
reasonable to say that people in that high-income group” — by which means
people making over $100,000 — “are not the ‘middle class.’”
And so, under really, really unrealistic assumptions, he shows that the math
can kind of work, but that Romney’s policies would mean a really big tax
increase for people making between $100,000 and $250,000 in order to pay for
a big tax cut on people making more than $250,000. But that’s okay,
because people making over $100,000 are not in the middle class. |