a*********a
发帖数: 3656 | 1 MI certification blocked
WI 2 county audit
PA just voted to audit
AZ governor refuses to certify
not sure what the fuck GA will do.
supreme court reassignment, conservatives cover all battle grounds sans NV
and AZ. | t**y
发帖数: 117 | | a*********a
发帖数: 3656 | 3 unfortunately I m pessimistic. I think Biden will be inaugurated.
but if between now and Dec 14, the issue of election fraud can be brought to
day light for more people, it is God's work
but I think the gloves are off. anywhere GOP controls state legislature,
they shall gerrymander the fuck out of it.
【在 t**y 的大作中提到】
: Re^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| b*******g
发帖数: 6008 | 4 放松心情，该做什么就做什么，就像看戏一样，今年大选越来越有意思了，注定是不同
寻常的。
to
【在 a*********a 的大作中提到】
: unfortunately I m pessimistic. I think Biden will be inaugurated.
: but if between now and Dec 14, the issue of election fraud can be brought to
: day light for more people, it is God's work
: but I think the gloves are off. anywhere GOP controls state legislature,
: they shall gerrymander the fuck out of it.
| w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 5
not really
the state sad it would audit a little then the lawmakers would certify
likely early next week, unless something went very wrong
usually, "audit" these days is synonymous to "recount"
by using that word, some people really mean a "comprehensive recount" or "an
independent recount"
not unusual
as is implied above
he used the word of "accept"
usually it is not up to him to decide if the outcome will be certified
Georgia's governor doesn't really accept the outcome, but the state
certified its outcome
its result was already certified
【在 a*********a 的大作中提到】
: MI certification blocked
: WI 2 county audit
: PA just voted to audit
: AZ governor refuses to certify
: not sure what the fuck GA will do.
: supreme court reassignment, conservatives cover all battle grounds sans NV
: and AZ.
| r*********t
发帖数: 4911 | 6 尽全力保障公平的选举，用尽各种行政和司法手段之后，且司法和行政也的确配合去调
查了，然而老床还是选不上，那么认赌服输。
只不过，任何人指望老川或川粉直接投降，那是做梦。 | C*****6
发帖数: 15 | 7
赞同。等一月份最终结果。
【在 r*********t 的大作中提到】
: 尽全力保障公平的选举，用尽各种行政和司法手段之后，且司法和行政也的确配合去调
: 查了，然而老床还是选不上，那么认赌服输。
: 只不过，任何人指望老川或川粉直接投降，那是做梦。
| a*********a
发帖数: 3656 | 8 the likelyhood is very low. Trump needs to block certification in 3 states
and needs the congressional GOP to back him. it requires a lot of things to
line up perfect.
MI the canvasser came out and said her vote was contingent on State doing an
audit. Since the SOS then renegaded she did not sign the certificate and
her signature on the certificate is fake. even the signature was real, she
claims she was under duress even during the voting. and legally signature
under duress does not count in many circumstances. So this may end up in the
court.
I have seen reports that the WI recount is more comprehensive and does
include signature checking, down ballet checking etc etc. it is indeed set
up as 3 person per table, one handles the ballet, one from each campaign
look at the ballot and agree on the out come. WI I recall was the state
where dems asked Jill Stein to request a recount in 2016. then they found
more and more votes for Trump, and a couple counties counted more votes than
registered voters. Dems then went to the court to stop the recount.
I do believe the final certification is by the governor. "if there shall
have been any final determination in a State in the manner provided for by
law of a controversy or contest concerning the appointment of all or any of
the electors of such State, it shall be the duty of the governor". State
legislature sets up the rule of the election, including the process to
settle disputes. but the governors signature must appear on the
certification. that is my understanding. so AZ tactics may just be string
out the law suite pass the prorection.
GA law is that the result must be certified before the campaign and voters
can request a recount, so there may be another round of recount request in
GA. not sure.
PA law suit is coming. Alito ordered late ballots to be separated but I read
news his order was not strictly followed so he s pretty pissed.
all in all, Trump needs to drag 3 states through the mud for another 2 weeks
.
an
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
:
: not really
: the state sad it would audit a little then the lawmakers would certify
: likely early next week, unless something went very wrong
: usually, "audit" these days is synonymous to "recount"
: by using that word, some people really mean a "comprehensive recount" or "an
: independent recount"
: not unusual
: as is implied above
: he used the word of "accept"
| H**H
发帖数: 29 | 9 司法和行政就不要指望了。 你看那个问PA 的邮递员的路数就是和问 Flynn 的路数一
样。 真要查Fraud 难道不是应该这样去问那个头吗。 大家都不是傻子，当国家机器不
支持正义时， 犯不着为了正义去破财，坐牢。 | w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 10 so far, no rumor saying the total of votes, in any place, outnumbering its
total of registered voters, has ever been substantiated
michigan will do its audit, but just not the kind that person asked for
it would be absurd that two persons could sabotage the election of a whole
state
the woman voted yes on record, it should be enough for the state to move on,
unless the her second reversal can prevail in a court ...
michigan said it received certification from each of its counties
check the news in this thread for more details
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/USANews/34341143.html | | | l***x
发帖数: 1761 | 11 但是他们不配合啊
：尽全力保障公平的选举，用尽各种行政和司法手段之后，且司法和行政也的确配合去
调查了，然而老床还是选不上，那么认赌服输。
： | a*********a
发帖数: 3656 | 12 she did vote YES. no one dispute that.
AFTER THEY SPILL OUT IN THE OPEN WHERE HER DAUGHTER GO TO SCHOOL!
I guess this is still better than some 3rd world Affrican country where u
vote for the war lords under gun point.
its
on,
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: so far, no rumor saying the total of votes, in any place, outnumbering its
: total of registered voters, has ever been substantiated
: michigan will do its audit, but just not the kind that person asked for
: it would be absurd that two persons could sabotage the election of a whole
: state
: the woman voted yes on record, it should be enough for the state to move on,
: unless the her second reversal can prevail in a court ...
: michigan said it received certification from each of its counties
: check the news in this thread for more details
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/USANews/34341143.html
| p********2
发帖数: 1 | 13 形式上好一点，本质上没什么差别，因为他们不需要直接用枪来威胁了。
我不知道所有那些为白等叫好的人怎么看这个事情。。。
【在 a*********a 的大作中提到】
: she did vote YES. no one dispute that.
: AFTER THEY SPILL OUT IN THE OPEN WHERE HER DAUGHTER GO TO SCHOOL!
: I guess this is still better than some 3rd world Affrican country where u
: vote for the war lords under gun point.
:
: its
: on,
| w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 14
there are very bad people in this world
but she is not an angel either
she behaved like a very spoiled kid when she said the future audit can only
be the kind she was asking for
a normal bipartisan audit by the state just can't satisfy her
my way or high way
it sounds too familiar
essentially she was sabotaging the election, disenfranchising many other
people
if trump hadn't call her, she might have not rescinded it
i am quite sure that some people view her as a hero
but many others have very good reasons to be very upset about what they have
done, because that kind of unbalanced problems is VERY COMMON, and
generally not checked
it should be checked, it can be checked, but the two persons are just tring
too hard in order to get things out of it, which is shown in their
affidavits
【在 a*********a 的大作中提到】
: she did vote YES. no one dispute that.
: AFTER THEY SPILL OUT IN THE OPEN WHERE HER DAUGHTER GO TO SCHOOL!
: I guess this is still better than some 3rd world Affrican country where u
: vote for the war lords under gun point.
:
: its
: on,
| j******f
发帖数: 825 | 15 what are you talking about
Trump already won
we won
won won won!!! | a*********a
发帖数: 3656 | 16 yes, she s a GOP partisan no doubt.
but after the very bad democrats threatened her daughter's safety, she can
be the biggest cry baby in the world and it s not her fault.
if not rubber stamping an unbalanced voter book is sabotage, then maybe we
should remove the canvassing board all together from future elections.
if she was indeed sabotaging, the very bad democrats could have gone to the
court or the legislature for relief. or they could lay the facts out to the
public and win in the court of public opinion.
No, they did not, they called her a racist and doxed her daughter's where
about. put her daughter in danger.
I call this sabotage! what the very bad democrats did to her is sabotage!
This is not how a civilized democracy operates. this is how 3rd world
countries run there elections. worse, most 3rd world countries require in
person voting, and in place of voter ID, they require dipping ones finger
into red ink which will not wash away for days.
to this date, the trump team has stayed within their constitutional and
legal boundary. the pro trump demonstrators have stayed within their legal
boundary. news says 2 person injured during the DC march, but they dont say
those 2 were trump supporters beaten by BLM antifa thugs. A canvassor not
rubber stamping a unbalanced voter book is also well within her rights and
duty.
OTOH, democrats and never trumps have used all kinds of illegal/extra-legal
means. doxing trumps lawyers, beat up trump march participants, threaten GOP
election officials and their families.
u are correct "there are very bad people in this world", and this time
around, there are a lot of very bad democrats in Michigan.
only
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
:
: there are very bad people in this world
: but she is not an angel either
: she behaved like a very spoiled kid when she said the future audit can only
: be the kind she was asking for
: a normal bipartisan audit by the state just can't satisfy her
: my way or high way
: it sounds too familiar
: essentially she was sabotaging the election, disenfranchising many other
: people
| w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 17
the
the
let's not argue for the sake of argument
otherwise, we will run in circles, existing and new
threats are not the real driving force for them to change their mind
at least that is not shown in their affidavits
as a reference, georgia's secretary of state, a republican, got death
threats from his own republican folks, because he was saying he was going to
certify the result of biden as the winner
he did
the two republicans' KEY FORMAL excuse to rescind their earlier votes is
that the audit to be done by the two parties
is not the one the woman had "asked for" or wanted
the audit has to be done by a third party
why?
do they, not any longer, trust their own party folks to do their good job?
did i say (actually a lot of reports say) that the unbalanced problem is
very common, and it is usually not checked into
they picked out two out of hundreds precincts in the biggest county (with
860,000 votes) to audit
it won't change the state result, anyway
however, their not certifying the county would definitely prevent the state
from certifying the state election
many locals can see through the matter
they are not too stupid
i hope that you can see it more from the other side
then you will understand their anger from seeing the two persons were
abusing their power over other people's rights
【在 a*********a 的大作中提到】
: yes, she s a GOP partisan no doubt.
: but after the very bad democrats threatened her daughter's safety, she can
: be the biggest cry baby in the world and it s not her fault.
: if not rubber stamping an unbalanced voter book is sabotage, then maybe we
: should remove the canvassing board all together from future elections.
: if she was indeed sabotaging, the very bad democrats could have gone to the
: court or the legislature for relief. or they could lay the facts out to the
: public and win in the court of public opinion.
: No, they did not, they called her a racist and doxed her daughter's where
: about. put her daughter in danger.
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