s***s
发帖数: 1841 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 OnTheRoad 俱乐部 】
发信人: sonatine (5% right), 信区: OnTheRoad
标 题: Re: 医改能不能来个全民公投呢 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 22 13:02:51 2010, 美东)
The thing is there are too many back door deals.
Unions have many cadillac plans and they oppose the taxes.
Also can you trust a public plan provided by inefficient govt?
I have been reading a proposal by Friedman back in 2001.
http://www.hoover.org/publications/digest/3459466.html
A summary is here:
http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/18/milton-friedman-medical-i |
s*****a
发帖数: 3693 | 2 根据我在factcheck.org看的，卡迪拉克不能算union的。
http://factcheck.org/2010/03/a-final-weekend-of-whoppers/
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: 【 以下文字转载自 OnTheRoad 俱乐部 】
: 发信人: sonatine (5% right), 信区: OnTheRoad
: 标 题: Re: 医改能不能来个全民公投呢 (转载)
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 22 13:02:51 2010, 美东)
: The thing is there are too many back door deals.
: Unions have many cadillac plans and they oppose the taxes.
: Also can you trust a public plan provided by inefficient govt?
: I have been reading a proposal by Friedman back in 2001.
: http://www.hoover.org/publications/digest/3459466.html
: A summary is here:
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s**g
发帖数: 3271 | 3 in general opinion, those plans are mostly union member's benefit becuase
they sacrifice higher salary...
I oppose the original op about "inefficient gov". yes, gov is inefficient.
However, is private company any better? private healthcare have been the way
for these many years and it didn't do much good mah
【在 s*****a 的大作中提到】
: 根据我在factcheck.org看的，卡迪拉克不能算union的。
: http://factcheck.org/2010/03/a-final-weekend-of-whoppers/
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s***s
发帖数: 1841 | 4 OP was not favoring private or government ah
it's merely 3rd party, be it private or government
way
【在 s**g 的大作中提到】
: in general opinion, those plans are mostly union member's benefit becuase
: they sacrifice higher salary...
: I oppose the original op about "inefficient gov". yes, gov is inefficient.
: However, is private company any better? private healthcare have been the way
: for these many years and it didn't do much good mah
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d******a
发帖数: 1047 | 5 one argument ppl usually use to be appost to the gov is that the education
system run by gov is boken, then how can you trust the gov to run the
healthcare system?
somehow I feel the healthcare industry is very special and won't be fair if
it is run by free market
way
【在 s**g 的大作中提到】
: in general opinion, those plans are mostly union member's benefit becuase
: they sacrifice higher salary...
: I oppose the original op about "inefficient gov". yes, gov is inefficient.
: However, is private company any better? private healthcare have been the way
: for these many years and it didn't do much good mah
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s**g
发帖数: 3271 | 6 I think mortgage is an example I don't trust free market, esp like Fannie/
Feddie such so called private company with gov backing..
if they don't get greedy and open market to subprime, we wouldn't be in such
a mess
if
【在 d******a 的大作中提到】
: one argument ppl usually use to be appost to the gov is that the education
: system run by gov is boken, then how can you trust the gov to run the
: healthcare system?
: somehow I feel the healthcare industry is very special and won't be fair if
: it is run by free market
:
: way
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l*****r
发帖数: 7130 | 7 啊？那个国家的基础教育不是政府run的？
if
【在 d******a 的大作中提到】
: one argument ppl usually use to be appost to the gov is that the education
: system run by gov is boken, then how can you trust the gov to run the
: healthcare system?
: somehow I feel the healthcare industry is very special and won't be fair if
: it is run by free market
:
: way
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s***s
发帖数: 1841 | 8 it's not about who runs the sector
it's about who makes decision for the treatment/cost |
s*****a
发帖数: 3693 | 9 其实不论公或私，都是那个保险公司在做决定。只不过如果是国家开的
保险公司，大家就容易感觉被伤害。
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: it's not about who runs the sector
: it's about who makes decision for the treatment/cost
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s***s
发帖数: 1841 | 10 the reform is to move for better, not remain same, isn't it?
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: 其实不论公或私，都是那个保险公司在做决定。只不过如果是国家开的
: 保险公司，大家就容易感觉被伤害。
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s*****a
发帖数: 3693 | 11 are we talking about the public option? public option is gone
already
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: the reform is to move for better, not remain same, isn't it?
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s***s
发帖数: 1841 | 12 no i am just commenting on ur 大家就容易感觉被伤害
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: are we talking about the public option? public option is gone
: already
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s**g
发帖数: 3271 | 13 this is not only about what is the right/perfect thing to do, but also what
can pass in congress..
through following it (not too closely), I just feel, the congress is such a
complicated system, it's a wonder they can get anything done!
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: the reform is to move for better, not remain same, isn't it?
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s*****a
发帖数: 3693 | 14 我觉得有些人怕public option就是担心政府会利用这个来压低保险金，而不是
担心觉得政府换汤不换药。
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: no i am just commenting on ur 大家就容易感觉被伤害
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