i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 1 NL200 我UTG AQo, raise to 8, UTG+1 call, button call, blinds fold.
flop is QQT rainbow, pot is $27, I bet $21, button call.
turn is K, no flush draw, I bet $50 into $69 pot, he raised to $117, I had $
127 left.
咋办？ | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 well, auto all-in, guess there's no other way.
call is the same, with only $60 left for the river. fold is out of question
after you have committed so much.
1) hands got you beat so far: KK, TT, QT, KQ, AJ, J9s. AJ and J9s are loose.
you're only totally drawing dead against KK (well, not even, hehe).
2) hands you got him beat so far: AK, KT, JJ, KJ, Qx.
3) if he's normal, he's betting for you to call after you fire three times
for a total of $79, with only $127 left. he knows you're committed, b
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: NL200 我UTG AQo, raise to 8, UTG+1 call, button call, blinds fold.
: flop is QQT rainbow, pot is $27, I bet $21, button call.
: turn is K, no flush draw, I bet $50 into $69 pot, he raised to $117, I had $
: 127 left.
: 咋办？
| p*******r
发帖数: 100 | 3 bluff raise is almost impossible since he called twice and he knew you were
almost pot committed.
One possibility is he called your flop bet with AK or AJ (gutshot str8 draw)
. That's loose but he got his draw if he had AJ..
A more likely possibility is he has a Q or KK or TT (but with Q or TT he may
have raised on the flop).
Sounds like the only hand you can beat is QJ or AK or KJ, where QJ is more likely. But none of these hands justified a raise on the turn..
I tend to fold. | j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 4 上回你跟我说的ivey那手牌是啥来着
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【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: NL200 我UTG AQo, raise to 8, UTG+1 call, button call, blinds fold.
: flop is QQT rainbow, pot is $27, I bet $21, button call.
: turn is K, no flush draw, I bet $50 into $69 pot, he raised to $117, I had $
: 127 left.
: 咋办？
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 5 well, I push. You may be behind, but the price isn't too bad to call
and sometimes, you may lead against QJs or a slowplayed AA
. I don't call cause if the river
paired or tripled, straight may fold to the river bet sometimes.
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scored or assisted by McGrady; in Game 7 all but nine were.
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: NL200 我UTG AQo, raise to 8, UTG+1 call, button call, blinds fold.
: flop is QQT rainbow, pot is $27, I bet $21, button call.
: turn is K, no flush draw, I bet $50 into $69 pot, he raised to $117, I had $
: 127 left.
: 咋办？
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 6 thanks for the input.
even i got 1:3.5 to call, i don't think it's enough if i'm behind.
I guess most of us will agree it's either shove or fold.
this hand still bothers me at this moment...
question
loose.
most
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: well, auto all-in, guess there's no other way.
: call is the same, with only $60 left for the river. fold is out of question
: after you have committed so much.
: 1) hands got you beat so far: KK, TT, QT, KQ, AJ, J9s. AJ and J9s are loose.
: you're only totally drawing dead against KK (well, not even, hehe).
: 2) hands you got him beat so far: AK, KT, JJ, KJ, Qx.
: 3) if he's normal, he's betting for you to call after you fire three times
: for a total of $79, with only $127 left. he knows you're committed, b
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 7
were
draw)
may
likely. But none of these hands justified a raise on the turn..
i agree this doesn't look like a bluff. it looks like a value raise imo.
【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: bluff raise is almost impossible since he called twice and he knew you were
: almost pot committed.
: One possibility is he called your flop bet with AK or AJ (gutshot str8 draw)
: . That's loose but he got his draw if he had AJ..
: A more likely possibility is he has a Q or KK or TT (but with Q or TT he may
: have raised on the flop).
: Sounds like the only hand you can beat is QJ or AK or KJ, where QJ is more likely. But none of these hands justified a raise on the turn..
: I tend to fold.
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 8 Q8o on JJx board against 65o, both had no pair, hehe
【在 j**y 的大作中提到】
: 上回你跟我说的ivey那手牌是啥来着
:
: $
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 9 that's the main thing. I do have a good odds to call, but I don't think the
odds is good enough if i'm behind. So if i push here, i have to put lots of
bluff in his range, right?
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: well, I push. You may be behind, but the price isn't too bad to call
: and sometimes, you may lead against QJs or a slowplayed AA
: . I don't call cause if the river
: paired or tripled, straight may fold to the river bet sometimes.
:
: $
: scored or assisted by McGrady; in Game 7 all but nine were.
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 10 your pot odds is close to 1/3, so you don't have to put a lot of bluffing
hands in this range to make your call profitable, against straight, you
still
have many outs to improve, including one Q, three aces, three tens, three
kings. Against made house, you are quite a dog though.
the
of
scored or assisted by McGrady; in Game 7 all but nine were.
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: that's the main thing. I do have a good odds to call, but I don't think the
: odds is good enough if i'm behind. So if i push here, i have to put lots of
: bluff in his range, right?
| | | j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 11 那vedio的link怎么搜来着
我把另外那个人名忘了
ivey的名字搜出来太多
我正在一个一个过滤中
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: Q8o on JJx board against 65o, both had no pair, hehe
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 12
【在 j**y 的大作中提到】
: 那vedio的link怎么搜来着
: 我把另外那个人名忘了
: ivey的名字搜出来太多
: 我正在一个一个过滤中
: 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
| j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 13 那谁应该先all-in
Ivey估计就歇了
呵呵
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 14 Of course it can be a bluff.
Because it doesn't look like a bluff,and it makes no sense to bluff, that is
the reason to bluff.
Albeit the probability of a bluff is small.
He could also have Qx(including AQ).
He could even make a misplay, or simply wrong click.
You just can't fold.
The opponent's style could help a lot in deciding his hand.
chance of Qx,AA,AK: 30%
chance of bluff: 7%
chance of misplay,wrong click and other possibilities: 5%
chance of either A or Q on river: 9%
Chance of a card on | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 15 nod.
as for "chance of misplay,wrong click and other possibilities: 5%", not very
likely because for his specific raise amount $117, it got to typed-in and
then click.
is
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Of course it can be a bluff.
: Because it doesn't look like a bluff,and it makes no sense to bluff, that is
: the reason to bluff.
: Albeit the probability of a bluff is small.
: He could also have Qx(including AQ).
: He could even make a misplay, or simply wrong click.
: You just can't fold.
: The opponent's style could help a lot in deciding his hand.
: chance of Qx,AA,AK: 30%
: chance of bluff: 7%
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