m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 1 Full Tilt Poker Game #9919038258: Table Wickford (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit
Hold'em - 3:02:31 ET - 2009/01/08
Seat 1: PKowalski ($200)
Seat 2: yanjiegou2007 ($362)
Seat 3: Give_A_Ratz ($270.40)
Seat 4: ArmandoGB ($37)
Seat 5: BamYeah ($260.25)
Seat 6: PhilTMcNasty ($633.35)
Give_A_Ratz posts the small blind of $1
ArmandoGB posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yanjiegou2007 [As Ac]
Give_A_Ratz: puss
BamYeah has 15 seconds left to act
BamYeah folds
PhilTMc |
j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 2 you put him on set?
Limit
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: Full Tilt Poker Game #9919038258: Table Wickford (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit
: Hold'em - 3:02:31 ET - 2009/01/08
: Seat 1: PKowalski ($200)
: Seat 2: yanjiegou2007 ($362)
: Seat 3: Give_A_Ratz ($270.40)
: Seat 4: ArmandoGB ($37)
: Seat 5: BamYeah ($260.25)
: Seat 6: PhilTMcNasty ($633.35)
: Give_A_Ratz posts the small blind of $1
: ArmandoGB posts the big blind of $2
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 3 89 suited , anyway, 3 hands beat me.
his aggressive factor after flop is not big... |
m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 4 he is a very good player, I don't think he will risk all his money just by
AK out of position when got 3 bet bf flop( that is the only hand I can beat) |
w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 5 Fold is good.
fold on flop would be better. |
m******1
发帖数: 715 | 6 if he had a set, why all-in on turn to drive you out?
sigh! the game is so situational. |
d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 7 要看到AF after flop是不是要买PT3？
好像试用的看不到。。。
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: 89 suited , anyway, 3 hands beat me.
: his aggressive factor after flop is not big...
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 8 since it is 89 10 on the board and two spade already!
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: if he had a set, why all-in on turn to drive you out?
: sigh! the game is so situational.
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 9 I using HM
【在 d**x 的大作中提到】
: 要看到AF after flop是不是要买PT3？
: 好像试用的看不到。。。
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 10 why, he may have KA, and I have position...
why fold,
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Fold is good.
: fold on flop would be better.
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d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 11 what is that?
trial version or purchased one?
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: I using HM
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d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 12 我只是觉得cash game不轻易all-in....
好几次KK都被搞死了
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: why, he may have KA, and I have position...
: why fold,
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 13 When he check-reraise, he would surely bet big on turn. So the question is
not whether you call his bet on flop, but whether you call his bets on flop
and turn, and since these two bets commit large part of his stack, then very
likely it is an allin thereafter.
Check-reraise usually suggests he was pretty sure he dominated.
And he is tight.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: why, he may have KA, and I have position...
: why fold,
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 14 stack size, position很重要(读harrington的cash games有感)。
AA，KK这种牌在short stack (say, ~50bb)时威力无穷，因为：
1)you want to get all your chips in pre-flop or on flop，而pre-flop和flop正
是big pairs的最强点；
2) short stack vs. big stacks(简化说2个吧)，实际上是两个games，一个是short
vs. short vs. short，一个是big stack vs. big stack的side game。对于short
stack(cash game only, tourney is quite diff.)，big stack多余出来的chips对
short stack是没有意义的，所以极大打击了big stack继续draw出implied odds的动机。
3)在相对都big stacks的情况下，位置就起很大作用，harrington举了一个为什么35o
对AA都值得一斗的例子，在位置合适的
【在 d**x 的大作中提到】
: 我只是觉得cash game不轻易all-in....
: 好几次KK都被搞死了
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n******n
发帖数: 12088 | 15 不过哈灵顿这本cash game似乎评价不高？
机。
35o
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: stack size, position很重要(读harrington的cash games有感)。
: AA，KK这种牌在short stack (say, ~50bb)时威力无穷，因为：
: 1)you want to get all your chips in pre-flop or on flop，而pre-flop和flop正
: 是big pairs的最强点；
: 2) short stack vs. big stacks(简化说2个吧)，实际上是两个games，一个是short
: vs. short vs. short，一个是big stack vs. big stack的side game。对于short
: stack(cash game only, tourney is quite diff.)，big stack多余出来的chips对
: short stack是没有意义的，所以极大打击了big stack继续draw出implied odds的动机。
: 3)在相对都big stacks的情况下，位置就起很大作用，harrington举了一个为什么35o
: 对AA都值得一斗的例子，在位置合适的
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 16 he showed? anyway you can't call this allin. just an over pair.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: 89 suited , anyway, 3 hands beat me.
: his aggressive factor after flop is not big...
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 17 53o什么时候可以call AA？
另外下面这段话的意思是AA会输大赢小是不是？似乎AK也是。AA赢大最容易的时候就是
preflop就allin的。。
还是Harrington说的，AA在cash game, big stacks的情况下，输(大)赢(小)之间相当
不平衡。
机。
35o
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: stack size, position很重要(读harrington的cash games有感)。
: AA，KK这种牌在short stack (say, ~50bb)时威力无穷，因为：
: 1)you want to get all your chips in pre-flop or on flop，而pre-flop和flop正
: 是big pairs的最强点；
: 2) short stack vs. big stacks(简化说2个吧)，实际上是两个games，一个是short
: vs. short vs. short，一个是big stack vs. big stack的side game。对于short
: stack(cash game only, tourney is quite diff.)，big stack多余出来的chips对
: short stack是没有意义的，所以极大打击了big stack继续draw出implied odds的动机。
: 3)在相对都big stacks的情况下，位置就起很大作用，harrington举了一个为什么35o
: 对AA都值得一斗的例子，在位置合适的
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 18 具体说起来有点长，俺觉得这书不错，有些收获。
关键不是AA对35o，而是由于都是big stacks，给了35o很好的投机机会(投机不成损失
也“相对”很小)，同时也很隐蔽，flop(rainbow)了一个wheel draw，river了A，把AA
整得很痛苦。
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: 53o什么时候可以call AA？
: 另外下面这段话的意思是AA会输大赢小是不是？似乎AK也是。AA赢大最容易的时候就是
: preflop就allin的。。
: 还是Harrington说的，AA在cash game, big stacks的情况下，输(大)赢(小)之间相当
: 不平衡。
:
: 机。
: 35o
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