v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 1 concur with "铁杆的 consistency". that has been my goal for a while.
recently tested my swing on range (after practice in back yard a while),
iron play starts to steady (from sand wedge to long iron).seems that shot in
the range of 170 - 210 yards start to becomes more stable. maybe ready to
test some 7000 yard course?
but no confidence on making shots beyond 220 yards.
5wood is relative straight and high. but still slice 3wood and driver (
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 2 read teeithigh's blog, "修炼成仙" is the my impression.
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/indexlist_1563941547_3.html
not sure highhander would play with highdicappers. but highhander please
promote the game of golf by playing with highcaippers like us.
However, i was better than him at #9 San Ramon Golf Club. he was +18, i was
3wood, 1 shot into water, replay another 1 or 2 shots from same spot onto
island green, 2 or 3 putts. +2 or +3, haha....
agree with him that there is up and down of level of play, |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 3 http://www.pgatour.com/leaderboards/current/r023/index.html
driving distance is still 298 yards, with mostly 3wood? 真是挺变态的
he attacked green with 5wood often,from 240-250 yard distance, (the shot on
TV didn't hit green, but he did a good chip from rough around green) . also
hit green using 3i from 228 yard away.
his game above 200 yards is so good.
tige |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 4 TIGER在持平或领先的时候出手都很谨慎，打出来的球反倒非常好
最后两洞前是 4-way tie at -10.
#17, he tee with his most reliable 3wood
#18, tee with iron, before he hit his best approaching 7i shot, jack already
knew tiger is the champ.
反观他MASTERS时候的最后两洞，却大不相同
那时候，他TRAILING，两个DRIVER TEE都打飞了 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 5 re this post to top 10...
usually see pros lay up when the water is in front/back of the green.
the hole you played is left side, and it's dogleg turning right to left. if
you don't hit many hooks/draws, then the risk is smaller.
last time play with you, saw your 3wood shot is long and low, guess a lot of
roll .
attack green needs some kind of high shot. so maybe 5wood is better.
tiger's long approach mostly 5woods, 3i. said that his 3i shot is very high
trajectory. ..
i tried 5 wood a range |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 6 yeah, agree
before i had my 3wood, i was so afraid of par5, take me forever to reach the
green. now, i look back the past few rounds, i parred most of par5, wasted
couple birdie opportunities. |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 7 my GIR % is still at 1/6 or so. this time iron shots very poor.
the longer drive, the lower fairway %. my distance is about 70-80 yard short
of tigers :) if tiger shoot my distance, his % probably 100%.
yardage sign #18 is 670yard, but GPS only show 620 yard or so. interesting
hole, tee shot almost blind. i walked up to see how the fairway turn and go
to green before tee shot. if you hit 3wood second shot, it's mostly
downhill lie, the ball will go extremely low, might now carry over the dee |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 8 for shorter club, hands are ahead of clubhead at impact. but for driver and
woods, hands and left forearm align with club shaft... my understanding
right?
since loft of driver or 3wood is so small... could not afford any deloft...
except you hit ball on ascending blow.... which you can do for driver....
do you have any driver swing video? i feel that it's hard to find a swing
both good for Driver/Woods and iron.... for a lot of amateurs...
"you will see all your lag is gone by that moment, but |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 9 need update. Now aff is a super long hitter now. drive 250, 260, 270 on
regular basis. also steady 3wood. saw him reeach 500 yard green side in two
last time play.
aff rekindle interests in long iron recently? |
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b*******e
发帖数: 724 | 11 I hate to say this. Save the money! a new driver doesn't help correct
swing flaws. You will probably hit longer and straighter paying a pro that
money for a couple of lessons. BTW, I somehow cannot get used to 460cc
drivers, they look too big to me. It must be just me. No one else seems to
have issues with large-head drivers. |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 12 Do you really need a 3 wood? If not, don’t buy them. Besides, try out the
Big Bertha Diablo Driver and get the feel in your swing. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 13 did you try all the new drivers?
"go to all those demo sessions and try all of them there,
go with the one you like most." would be my suggestions.
both callaway and taylormade are big name brands in terms of making driver.
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 14 "Research indicates that lighter shafts are, in general, better for the
average golfer. Less weight produces shots of greater distance and accuracy
for beginning and intermediate players. The low handicappers and pros have
higher swing speeds, more control over the movements of the club and they
possess an acute sense of 'feel' for the head of the club. The shafts best
suited for them typically are higher in gram weight and have heavier
swingweights." |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 15 Go with your feelings and get them, but I know from my experience, an Aldila
shaft will take time to get accustomized to it. I bought a Cleveland HiBore
XLS Driver with the regular gold shaft in the May and took no time to get
used of it, and then I bought a Nike SQ Sumo 2 5900 Driver with an Aldila VS
Proto Shaft this month. It took me a while to get with it. I really like it
and the Aldila Shaft's reduced my slice shots but kept the distances I want
to.
Anyway, I can't generate a club head spe |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 16 found some user experience at golfsmith.com, 18 reviews, less than burner,
but more than most other drivers.
most say forgiving and easy to hit,
babyhorse: reviews said that this one sound great at impact
most complaints are about shaft, and lack of mark at crown for address
will check it out at demo, already got callaway golf bag, may go with
callaway driver...
so far, i feel i probably try 8* or 9* loft neutral, adlilad NV copper 55g
User experience:
1) makes the ball flight balloon. Mayb |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 17 thanks for the feedback on adidla shaft.
i was talking about ball speed 150mph, not club head speed (even long
driving champ could not be that fast with clubhead speed). for most launch
monitors, that's the speed directly meausred. club head speed is estimated
using some kind of formula... also LM accuracy at local store is questionable i guess.
if you club head speed 115-120, you can drive 290- 300 yard on regular basis. that's in the range of PRO long hitter level.
bring the driver you usua |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 18 turned out buying a driver/wood is complicated process, i wrote a 4page
document listing the features and parameters already... |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 19 Good to hear about that. It may take time to get used to them, but they will
help improving yoru game for sure. |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 20 I used to have a 13 degree strong 3 wood and hoped to hit the ball to the
green on my second shot for a par 5. To tell you the truth, I had never
successfully hit it over 200 yards with my fairway shots. It was difficult
for me to hit it on the fairway, even though I could hit it over 230 yards
at a driving range. It's just my two cents. Hope this won't discourage you
about having the strong 3 wood.
so |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 21 what does "strong" mean? less loft?
yesterday hitting 15* regular flex, i dropped the ball onto grass in front
of mattress, and hit from there. hit the back fence before landing. but
that's only one out of 12 shots. still some swing problems.
i never hit fairward wood over 200yard on course either, but that's because
i never did that on range before. i play 3 18-hole round this year, didn't
find much differnce between range and course yet. hit at range bad, hit on
course bad too. vers vers |
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d***t
发帖数: 210 | 22 Congrats on the new clubs! |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 23 today recovering from vacation fatigue (strange getting tired from out of
town vactions), didn't feel energetic at all. iron shot is a lot shorter
than other day. golf is so much related to 身体状态. and you thought made
some improvement, but it is really 时有时无
i no longer expect any signicant leap of skills or distance. just play
along casually may be a good way to do it |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 24 the guy at golfsmith favor burner 09 over callaway burner, he said his
burner is 30 yard long than R7. not sure true or fake.
will stay with callaway for a while and see check out TM next demo... |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 25 You need give yourself time to get with the new driver you bought,
particularly with an Aldila shaft. Some new drivers we can get used to at no
time, some others we can’t, which does not mean they are not good for us.
Take your time and get known about the driver and shaft. Hope you will like
it after three or four tryouts.
shots |
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b*******e
发帖数: 724 | 26 what flex for your new driver? |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 27 前教练说，适应套球杆至少要2-3个月。
如果是在天天练习的基础上。
no
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like |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 28 同意这种说法，适应一套球杆需要一段时间，尤其是对于高手们。可我从275cc跳到
460cc开球杆，几乎没花什么时间去适应，立刻就喜欢这些大头大脑的开球杆，嘿嘿。 |
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y**********7
发帖数: 769 | 30 5 woods可以rescue,但我觉得效果没有hybrid好. 5 woods,一是杆长不易控制,二是深
草不易切入. 当然,这只是我的感觉. 每个人会各有其偏好. 只要能打出好球就成. 无
所谓你愿意选择哪一种球杆.
其实,我是用 16度 1 hybrid. 好处甚多. 在球道上,LIE好,可代替5wood, LIE不好,可以代替3wood. 若树在前方近处,可击出低矮球,从树冠下穿出. 顶风,可用来开球. 打左右曲线球绕过障碍,更是好用. 在深草中,也能打出相当的距离. 使用率比fairwoods高.
rescue club的有关信息网上很多.
The rescue clubs and driving irons are becoming hugely popular with many club and pro golfers now. Bridging the gap between long irons and the longer woods, the rescue club has certainly made an entrance into the golfing |
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n*****0
发帖数: 185 | 31 我2个set 都有。 一个是 taylormade rescue mid hybrid 2,4.
一个是taylormade fairway rescue wood 3,7. 上次在ebay上看上5号，结果忘了bid
了。不过7号差不多也能cover 到 180了。
可以代替3wood. 若树在前方近处,可击出低矮球,从树冠下穿出. 顶风,可用来开球. 打
左右曲线球绕过障碍,更是好用. 在深草中,也能打出相当的距离. 使用率比fairwoods
高.
club and pro golfers now. Bridging the gap between long irons and the longer
woods, the rescue club has certainly made an entrance into the golfing
world. |
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q******3
发帖数: 622 | 32 原来zzzz跟我有差不多的问题。呵呵，我以为我太奇怪了呢。
我现在也是感觉3wood感觉比driver好很多。3w我能full swing，有信心。今天打了一
下，3w慢慢的小draw都快出来了，感觉非常好。以前都是fade的多。
driver就是感觉swing不full，不爽，用不上劲，距离跟3w差不多。
我想每个人有不同的理想full swing的shaft长度，刚度flex，head重量，形状阻力的
组合。
所以我相信我会寻找我用的3w的11度左右的头略大的driver，应该是我的“customer
fit”的driver。 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 33 i was choosing between burner and callaway driver, the staff at golfmart
seem not to support me to get burner. don't know why. will burner be
discontined by taylormade? i get callaway because of shaft options and like
the 3wood in the deal.
burner has longer and very light shaft, so it's very much distance oriented.
the staff told me all pro use 45 inch standard length for Driver shaft
for control. and burner is pretty much for high handicappers... for
100mph club head speed, 1inch l |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 34 Burner is Taylormade best seller.
you would run into burner players very often on the course or on the driving
range.
most ppl go for it for its power, i guess, that is the name, Burner was from.
when looking for driver, a lot of ppl's main concern is distance, and you
can always replace it with 3wood, when you need control and accuracy.
there are few burner's variations, all of them are very popular. few
variations were marketing for high-handicapper. But, some tour pro players
were using burne |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 35 每礼拜都上场的，可能练不练差不了多少。向我们这种一个月未必上一次场的，当然要
热身了。五十个球，有点多吧，像我这样体力不支的，五十个球下来已是大汗淋淋，哈
哈。好像有个说法是，7i，5i and 3wood或driver各练五个球就可以了。另外，推球得
练一下。 |
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p******u
发帖数: 101 | 36 6岁可以用US KIDS的蓝包.我儿子两岁半不到在用他家最小号红包,就一3WOOD,7IRON和一PUTTER.
好象非常小的儿童杆只有US KIDS,WALTER HAGEN和DULOP.我还是最喜欢US KIDS. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 37 80 yards, i have too many options.
8,9, pw, sw
last time, we played at callippe, at #18 par5, with my best driver+3wood
combination, i have 110 or so to the green, i pull a club, and the shot went
over the green. i was so surprised to see my #9 can go that far, checked my
club, turn out it was a #6, so i dropped another ball, re-played with #9,
ball landed short of green. ixcafe was laughing at me: "your #9 and #6
almost same distance". my #9 and #6 difference is one lands in front of
green, one |
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s*****e
发帖数: 1368 | 38
driver+3wood
shot went
checked my
#9,
of
set
你水平比我高太多了，我知道要多练习，可是时间不多，没有办法。就想是不是能在
wedge上取点巧
什么的。
我打球还没有用过driver,只用3号杆开球，因为driver用不好，其实3号杆也不行，不
过比
driver强一些罢了。另外，5号杆，hybrids,5号铁杆，我基本都没有用过，所以不存在
15杆的问
题了。我可以把这些都扔在车里。呵呵 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 39 应该很多，牛人还是很多的
不过3I 225也很常见呀
虽然我的IRON不是很远，但我很多朋友3I都能开200多，ROLL上225 GREEN是很平常的
经常是我用3WOOD，他们用3I
有一哥们也就刚破百，奇怪的是他不用DRIVER |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 40 pick up a 3wood at golfmart today. hit balls in front of launch monitor for
almost one hour.
the reality is how inaccurate my driver ball strike. ET is right, accuracy
and technique is of paramount importance, rather than swing speed training.
have to make sure have accuracy first.
i think median carry is 210, a few 230 carry(close to what i did at range), and only one 250 carry (maybe that's why i almost carry over back fence last time, the number is --- 14*
launch, 146.7mph ball spd, 100.7 clu |
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q******3
发帖数: 622 | 41 我也是3wood的contact最好。打的比driver还好点。主要是driver太臭。
我的3w是TM R5，喜欢contact的声音。优化角度基本也是15度左右。好的carry也有200
-210，但我的driver也就是这么多，郁闷。 |
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d******s
发帖数: 674 | 42 Driver 还是有很大区别的吧。pro就不会用我的FTIQ 即使它比FT9更新更贵。Pro要的
是worKAbility 我这样的 average Joe 要的是forgiveness。如果楼主想换杆的话，试
试从forgiveness比较比较。比如说试试俺现在用的FTIQ. Taylormade 网站上有一个详
细的比较。可以去看看。我的fav R7 CGB Max 3wood 就是maximum forgiveness. 估计
因为这所以才打的好一点 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 43 thanks to iphone, i was able to share your guys with the LM number.
that was just one casual swing for 152mph ball spd. hit drivers (nike, R9,
callway) many times, barely get over 140mph.
i remember wrong, the lanuch is only 5* (now you know waht kind of ball
strik accuracy i was having, sigh) 5* only led to 210y carry, it was a 15*
3wood. extra high spin due to the cut... |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 44 finish back nine yesterday afternoon,
drive horrible balloon up slice, 30 yard more offline all the time... hit
3woods 5woods in the woods most of time. no drive over 210 anymore... play double or triple bogey golf all the way...no lack of 4 over...
good shots are few, so remember all of them: finally hit green from 210yards
(with 2 mullgians), a 1ft to pin san shot, 10+ ft putt, 181 par3
overshoot green with 5i, 178 yard approach over water (1 mulligan) with
5wood, 120 yard approach 9ft to p |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 45 the more you say, the more i feel you are higher level than me. //haha
i used all my driver, 3wood, 5wood, hybrid on that course, and i still think
it is hard course. well, you only carry 4H, can easily get +8
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power |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 46 post a more normal number here:
lake chabot 288yard when i only average 210 yard for the round. about 20m elevation change..
202 yard elevated up par3 green boundary oak, 3wood (tee back 3 yard at 205 yard) , pass green center 25 yards in the deep rough back of green.
when use formula
driving distance = yardage sign - sign to hole
the error could be 20-30 yards. but still 300-400yard given by this formula is crazy long for amateurs.
last time play boundary oak #9 417yard uphill par 4, after dr |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 47 nice!
i only got par
the rest 260 was a blind shot. another experienced low handi player help me
drive the cart with me to check out the rest of 260, and gave me some
suggestions.
left side is out of bound, so i hit toward the right, use 52 to correct it
back to green.
so, driver + 3wood + 52, 3 on, and 2 putts, par, i won the skin for that
hole. i am just glad that i didnt waste a monster drive.
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 48 summit pointe has a lot of 360 and 398 yard par4, suppose you driving
average is 255, considering the downhill, you drive 270-280
you have about 90 - 120 left, since you average 5 on par4, so you pretty
much taking 4shots to cover 110-120yard (thinking a par3 left after tee shot
, so you mostly avarge body at 120 and less par3)
maybe par 3 with 130 - 170 range giving you problem and uncomfortable
distance
how did you at the #5, 183y par3?
score 90 at summite is great already. zan you hit 3wood |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 49 i used my hybrid on 183 #5 (handcap index 7), it was down wind, over shot,
one chip back on green, but the green was sick, and roll the ball all the
way to the edge, lucky i got 2 putts, which i was expecting another 3 putts.
otherwise it would be another 5 strokes on par3.
yes, summitpointe par4/par5 are not very long. the best shot of the day for
me was attacking #14 488Y par5, after 270 downwind drive, my 3woods landed
on green and roll out of green. it was first time for me 2 shots over the |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 50 "but if you hit too hard on woods, it would generate tons of spin,
which would change your ball flights alot, and you dont need the excessive
force for 3woods or 5woods."
Exactly! |
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