l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 1 Warnings
Insisting that someone worship in a religion is wrong and not effective. No
matter what your religion, one should be clearly persuaded--but not be
treated cruelly or as if they are somehow "wrong". Also be warned that in
some cultures the act of converting or conversion could be either unethical,
or - like in Saudi Arabia - usually illegal. Be prepared to be persecuted
or even killed for sharing your faith.
Consider how you would respond if someone was attempting to persuade you to
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 2 By Michael F. Haverluck
A lawsuit that challenges the placement of the cross at the site of the 9/11
attack on the World Trade Center alleges atheist plaintiffs have suffered
serious physical and mental illness because the religious symbol has made
them feel excluded.
Nonsense, says a new friend-of-the-court brief to be filed Monday in the
case by the American Center for Law and Justice. The brief, which carries
the signatures of more than 100,000 people, argues there have been no known
sighting... 阅读全帖 |
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 3 其實很簡單， 所有不是 theist 的人就是 atheist。 a 在英文字頭就是『欠缺』的
意思。
我其實很久都搞不清楚 agnostic 跟 atheist 的差別， 現在搞清楚了， agnostic 都
是 atheist， 有一些 atheist 相信位格化神不存在，可以說這些是 strong atheist
； 也有一些 atheist 是還不能相信位格化神存在，這些就是 agnostic atheist。
這樣定義應該很清楚了吧？ 只要知道什麼是 theist， 就知道什麼是 atheist 了。
Deist 也是 atheist。 Naturalist 也是 atheist。 好像沒有 a-deist 這種說法。
還有一種 anti-theist，是指希望神不存在， 通常是 atheist， 但是好像也不能排除
是相信有神但是就是反對神，但是我從來沒聽過有這樣的人存在。
有些atheist 是認真思考過的，理解 theism 的宣稱， 理解羅素，道金斯等反對
theism 的理由， 這些可以說是 organic atheist, 有些則是沒自己思考過的，比方
說嬰兒... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 4 This is the first in a series of stories on losing faith.
Teresa MacBain has a secret, one she's terrified to reveal.
"I'm currently an active pastor and I'm also an atheist," she says. "I live
a double life. I feel pretty good on Monday, but by Thursday — when Sunday'
s right around the corner — I start having stomachaches, headaches, just
knowing that I got to stand up and say things that I no longer believe in
and portray myself in a way that's totally false."
MacBain glances nervously around... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 5 ＮY., July 28, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) — When two steel girders were found
intact, in the shape of a cross, in the middle of the wreckage of the World
Trade Center after 9/11, it was hailed by many as a mini “miracle” and a
sign of hope for a country beleaguered by a devastating terrorist attack.
Now, however, an atheist group has filed a lawsuit that seeks to tear down
that cross, which was moved recently to the 9/11 Memorial and Museum in New
York City.
American Atheists filed its lawsuit, Amer... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 6 【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: leonana (leonany), 信区: Belief
标 题: How to Persuade a Christian to Become Atheist
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jun 6 03:22:40 2011, 美东)
Steps
1
Are you prepared? You have to give them a real reason - not just an
emotional one. However, you have to realize that many of their reasons
for being a Christian are emotional, so be ready to show atheism in an
emotionally positive light.
2
Think about your friendship. Are the two of you close? If not, try to
increase your friendship b... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 7 Steps
1
Are you prepared? You have to give them a real reason - not just an
emotional one. However, you have to realize that many of their reasons
for being a Christian are emotional, so be ready to show atheism in an
emotionally positive light.
2
Think about your friendship. Are the two of you close? If not, try to
increase your friendship before attempting to change their religious
beliefs. However, do not do this merely because you are trying to score
points, or because their beliefs offend y... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 8 In the discussions, you need to find out why this particular atheist may
feel that way. Has your friend always felt that there is no [caring] creator
? Or, has something happened in their life or have the experience the
hypocrisy of some religious leaders or in historical events such as disgust
with the Crusades and Inquisitions? Whatever is the reason, you need to get
the core of it, reach their core beliefs, heart of any problem.
An atheist will want definite evidence, not just a rehearsal of ... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******r
发帖数: 2940 | 9 “其實很簡單， 所有不是 theist 的人就是 atheist”
这个说法很多人不同意。在下面就可以看到。
agnosticism
"While Martin, for example, asserts that agnosticism entails negative
atheism, most agnostics see their view as distinct from atheism, which they
may consider no more justified than theism or requiring an equal conviction.
The assertion of unattainability of knowledge for or against the existence
of gods is sometimes seen as indication that atheism requires a leap of
faith." 当然有不同意他的观点
Deist
"Though deists rejected atheism, they ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 10 Make a never ending list: inspiration, intuition, dread, hope, fear, faith,
industriousness, procrastination, calmness, anxiety, anger, ambition,
initiative, enthusiasm, boredom, fatigue, illness, health,... family,
friendship, trust, honesty...
To know "everything" is impossible but being a functioning human and
striving further to "know" more... Priceless! Discuss how the support of the
church can help in one's life. Discuss the good that your church has done
recently, but don't assume that th... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 11 Q1. How would you define “atheism”?
Satanism, devil-worship, false, Godless, infidels, idiotic, Hell-bound,
unethical, evil…there are many words I could
use. Atheists are evil wicked people with no morals who deserve Hell more
than any murderer or rapist!
Q2. Was your upbringing religious? If so, what tradition?
Naturally. I was born a Baptist Christian and still follow our Lord Jesus
Christ today. As a child I attended church
every Sunday, and as I grew older I was born again and began to parti... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 12 Freedom from fear for the afterlife may be the best thing about being an
atheist. Atheist people are more free to discover about their own existence
and much more open with regards to details that are disregarded by religious
people.
Atheist are people who put their mind to the extent of getting the
information that they needed in accordance to evidence and not because of
influential factors.
I can say that atheist are people as free as eagle. Free to soar the world
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e***a
发帖数: 15 | 13 just for more fun...
Atheist:
These No-goodnik no-Godniks are growing in numbers and power in America. It
makes me wonder how a God could exist Who'd allow people to piss me off so
much.
Luckily, a recent survey published in the American Sociological Review
revealed that atheists are the least trusted group in America -- less trusted
, even, than homosexuals. It makes sense--at least we trust the homosexuals
with our hair.
But here's the biggest head-scratcher of all: Not only are atheists
destr |
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j********z
发帖数: 3242 | 14 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
coconut (向唐僧大师学习中) 于 (Sat Jan 10 23:14:35 2009) 提到:
发信人: coconut (向唐僧大师学习中), 信区: WorldNews
标 题: Atheist Bus Campaign is 'offensive', say complaints to ASA
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jan 10 23:14:20 2009), 站内
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jan/09/atheist-bus-campaign-asa
The advertising regulator has received almost 150 complaints that an atheist
ad campaign, proclaiming "There is probably no God. Now stop worrying and
enjoy your life", is offensive to |
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g***j
发帖数: 40861 | 15 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: gshjj (各输己键), 信区: Military
标 题: Atheists and agnostics know religon better than believers
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 4 14:19:18 2010, 美东)
In his 2007 book, Religious Literacy: What Every American Needs to Know-
And Doesn't, Boston University professor Stephen Prothero claimed, "
Americans are both deeply religious and profoundly ignorant about religion."
While he supported his argument with solitary findings from public opinion
polls, he pointed out that at the ti... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 16 【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】
发信人: leonana (leonany), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: US atheists offer pet rescue after judgment day
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 19 21:05:53 2011, 美东)
WASHINGTON (AFP) – When judgment day comes -- which some US Christian
fundamentalists insist will happen on Saturday -- have you thought about
what you're going to do with the family dog and cat?
In 26 US states, you could have them rescued and adopted by enterprising
atheists who have set up a business to care for the animal co... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 17 Warnings
Consider how you would respond if someone was attempting to persuade you to
change your beliefs or lack of belief. Be gentle in attempting to persuade a
Christian, as their own beliefs are just as important and central to who
they are as yours are to you. Careful not to turn any attempt to convert
them into an attack, make sure that you are only doing it for their own good.
You may never be able to convert a Christian. Sometimes, trying to do so
will even make them more adamant in their... 阅读全帖 |
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j*******7
发帖数: 6300 | 18 http://coldcasechristianity.com/2013/are-atheists-smarter-or-si
Are Atheists Smarter or Simply More Self-Reliant and Self-Indulgent?
After attending Southern California universities for nine years, I was a
committed atheist. Was my atheism the result of my intellectual prowess and
education, or something else? A recent controversial study seems to imply a
direct correlation between intelligence and atheism. A review of 63 studies
of intelligence and religion from 1928 to 2012 allegedly reveals t... 阅读全帖 |
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g***j
发帖数: 40861 | 19 In his 2007 book, Religious Literacy: What Every American Needs to Know-
And Doesn't, Boston University professor Stephen Prothero claimed, "
Americans are both deeply religious and profoundly ignorant about religion."
While he supported his argument with solitary findings from public opinion
polls, he pointed out that at the time of writing his book, there was not a
comprehensive, national survey evaluating religious knowledge among American
adults.
That changed this year, when the Pew Resea... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 20 Counter their evidence. Their evidence is sometimes from atheistic
scientists who portray their results in ways specifically conceived to
disprove the existence of God, so use research from Christian scientists to
rebuff their arguments.
Use logic. Remember that some aspects of God and his existence cannot be
explained logically just as they will pretend to, but can not explain the
origin of life. Their doctrines of secularism may prompt the Atheist to
dismiss God, but remind anyone that, as Cre... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 21 WASHINGTON (AFP) – When judgment day comes -- which some US Christian
fundamentalists insist will happen on Saturday -- have you thought about
what you're going to do with the family dog and cat?
In 26 US states, you could have them rescued and adopted by enterprising
atheists who have set up a business to care for the animal companions of
any Christians who are selected to go to heaven when Jesus Christ comes
back.
"You've committed your life to Jesus. You know you're saved. But when
the Raptur... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 22 Kanazawa et al. Why Liberals and Atheists Are More Intelligent. Social
Psychology Quarterly March 2010 vol. 73 no. 1 33-57
ScienceDaily (Feb. 24, 2010)
More intelligent people are statistically significantly more likely to
exhibit social values and religious and political preferences that are novel
to the human species in evolutionary history. Specifically, liberalism and
atheism, and for men (but not women), preference for sexual exclusivity
correlate with higher intelligence, a new study find... 阅读全帖 |
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G*M
发帖数: 6042 | 23 Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, study finds
Rob Waugh August 12, 2013 Yahoo! News
Religious people are less intelligent than non-believers, according to a new
review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades.
A team led by Miron Zuckerman of the University of Rochester found “a
reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out
of 63 studies. Even in extreme old age, intelligent people are less likely
to believe, the researchers found - an... 阅读全帖 |
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T*****n
发帖数: 2456 | 24 “我其實很久都搞不清楚 agnostic 跟 atheist 的差別， 現在搞清楚了， agnostic
都是 atheist”
看wiki：
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism
Atheism has been regarded as compatible with agnosticism,[28][29][30][31][32
][33][34] and has also been contrasted with it.[35][36][37]
看注解：
[35]^ Nielsen 2011: "atheism, in general, the critique and denial of
metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings. As such, it is usually
distinguished from theism, which affirms the reality of the divine and often
seeks to demonstrate its existe... 阅读全帖 |
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 25
這我同意，前面沒看清楚。 所以我不講中文的『無神論者』， 講英文的
atheist/atheism。
英文字頭 a 是啥意思你知道吧？
Hoc
這只是定義而已，而且還不是我定義的， 你吵啥？
這定義什麼狀況下沒意義？
實在很煩你這種滿腦子污穢的人， 我講講我對 atheist 這字的理解， 你就來說我
偷換概念， 當基督徒也不一定要這樣徹底心污吧？ |
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m*****s
发帖数: 57 | 26 有些人可能会辩， 老子什么也不信， 不需要信仰。
我个人认为这几乎是不可能 - 至少我自己无法想象。
我觉得每个人追根究底， 骨子里都有些信仰推动着每天每年的生活 - 大部分人一生寻
觅、 有的人选
择了宗教、 有些人选择了其它。
版上有不少人自称无神论者。我也是。 One atheist to another, 我很感兴趣这版上
的无神论者
信仰什么。 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 27 【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】
发信人: littletshirt (苹安喜乐), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: Atheists' Circular Reasoning
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 10 11:31:17 2013, 美东)
where do you pledge your faith? |
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r**a
发帖数: 206 | 28 let's see what is the atheist delusion:
1. hypothesis
bible was written as directed by the god in bible. and it is the ultim
ated truth.
2. why bible looks wrong
now we are in the era of satan (as said in bible, by hypothesis). so s
atan makes big effort to change our senses, feelings, and "facts" arou
nd us to put us in a delusion of "bible is 70% wrong". satan is not al
l powerful, so he cannot show us a 100% wrong bible.
3. christians
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f******l
发帖数: 70 | 29 My friends here, any thoughts about this primary election?
I do have some to share with you guys.
Obama's father is an atheist, and his mother held an ultra-liberal
understanding about the christianity. He himself found the faith
at late twenties, and also holds a liberal view of christianity tenet.
Deeply, I feel Obama is not a devouted christian at all, maybe
even a non-believer in disguise, but with very pragmatic attitute.
Secretly, I feel it is quite natural for Obama, such a shrewd
politi |
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N******p
发帖数: 2777 | 30 http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/12/05/atheists.christmas/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
By Mallory Simon
CNN
Decrease font Decrease font
Enlarge font Enlarge font
(CNN) -- It's beginning to look a lot like -- a war over Christmas.
A bus ad campaign is under way this month from the American Humanist
Association in Washington, D.C.
A bus ad campaign is under way this month from the American Humanist
Association in Washington, D.C.
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A*********e
发帖数: 4361 | 32 标题这样改一下恐怕才是符合所谓的调查实际的
Atheists and agnostics know THE KNOWLEDGE OF religion better than believers
其实这样的文章根本不能说明什么，原因有两点
1呢，信仰本身就不同于宗教。宗教是一种从人出来的活动和行为，信仰是个人直接跟
神沟通
2呢，信徒对宗教的知识根本就不跟信徒的灵命程度大小成正比，对知识知道的多的信
徒，在基督里的生命反而很小这也是经常见到的情况了
最后呢，给个小评论 - 撒旦从来都不说赤裸裸的谎言，他最拿手的就是在90%的事实基
础上，混杂进去那么一点点谎言和质疑，呵呵。。
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opinion
a
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 33 Point out that science is a wonderful thing, but discuss "natural" processes
like the ones called entropy (definition: disorder in a system, which
resolves to equilibrium--like dust settles) and chaos (definition: inherent
unpredictability) are not thought of as building anything:
The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy (or disorder) of
the entire universe (a system comprising of ALL matter) must increase with
time. If the universe had always existed, then entropy of the entire
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 34 【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: leonana (leonany), 信区: Belief
标 题: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jun 6 03:26:43 2011, 美东)
Steps
1
Know your own reasons for doing this. Are you trying to convert them
because their atheism makes you uncomfortable with your own faith, or
makes you angry? Well, first consider how important your religion is to
you.
2
Imagine exactly how they feel about their beliefs. They hold them as
settled and true to them, so pressuring towards ... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 36
Of course Science (including "evolution theory") does not disprove God.
Science and Christian belief are compitable. I'm glad that you acknowledge
this point, because many atheists with little training in science would
think "evolution theory" disprove God.
that depends on the deifition of "人".
are you saying "evolution theory" has nothing to do with "spontaneous random
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 37 you shall really consult your "evolution theory expert" theisland before say
anything about "evolution theory". Otherwise you are pushing theisland
into a very awkward corner.
-- stick to his own understanding of science, but have to dispute your false
claim in front of the atheists.
OR
-- side with you on a false claim, but betray his own understanding of
Science (I assume it is his profession).
mutation 是spontaneous的。 |
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t*******d
发帖数: 2570 | 38 既然你要讲你首贴的发现，那我说一下首贴的问题。
首贴最大的问题就是这句话：
"To an atheist, the almighty unprovable spontaneousness and randomness
explains everything."
如果你看不出问题的话，那可能是你立场的原因。
第二个问题，见以前的回答。已经在给八福的贴子里回答过了。
which
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RR
发帖数: 561 | 39 Atheists believe in sicence.
Science is hypothesis -> experimental verification.
every claim in science is backed by strict expirental data.
In science, you cannot make a claim without data support. |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 40 The best thing about being an Atheist: not feeling the burden of trying to
understand a higher being, not feeling shame for not praying, and going
throughout my day without feeling sad that God had not entered my mind once. |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 41 The fact that being an atheist is something you chose freely is a great
reason to me. |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 42 The best thing, to me, about being an atheist is that I get to discuss
philosophy with everyone on a neutral ground. (: |
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s*********t
发帖数: 4253 | 43 麻烦请你把
”Religious people are less intelligent than atheists“
告诉给美国总统。
也顺便查一查有那一位是没按圣经宣誓就当美国总统的？。 |
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T*****n
发帖数: 2456 | 44 youtube的回帖比较有水平
I can't help but think all atheistic comments are being deleted from
this video. So with that, I leave you all to your ignorance filled fantasy
world. :)
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 45 "Atheism rises above creeds and puts Humanity upon one plane.
There can be no 'chosen people' in the Atheist philosophy.
There are no bended knees in Atheism;
No supplications, no prayers;
No sacrificial redemptions;
No 'divine' revelations;
No washing in the blood of the lamb;
No crusades, no massacres, no holy wars;
No heaven, no hell, no purgatory;
No silly rewards and no vindictive punishments;
No christs, and no saviors;
No devils, no ghosts and no gods."
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 46 谢谢分享。
请问你对人生来是无神论者这种说法是怎么看的呢？
atheist |
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t*******r
发帖数: 2940 | 47 ”Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of
deities.“才是通常的用法，同意吗？
要不要看origin：The term atheism originated from the Greek ἄθεο&#
962; (atheos), meaning "without god(s)", used as a pejorative term applied
to those thought to reject the gods worshipped by the larger society.
谁都知道不是你定义的，但Wiki引用的定义也可能是不合理的，所以那么多人反对，我
也是反对者之一，为什么就成为吵了呢？
因为就如同你同意了的：你不会说你是”非肝炎“患者，你只需要简单说你不是肝炎患
者，除非你需要强调”非肝炎“病，但你又说是most inclusive，atheist玩这样的文
字游戏是想连baby也要抓来作为支持者吧。 |
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t*******r
发帖数: 2940 | 48 另外问个问题，相信命运的人算theist 还是 atheist？
的 |
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 49 你引這些跟我講的有啥差別？
你不同意就算了， 你心污的指控我偷換概念做什麼？ 我又沒在跟誰辯論
atheist 有多少。
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