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t*******o
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g******0
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May 10, 2010 · Filed Under M&A, analyst calls
Everyone is looking for the next or the next to the next biotech and
BioHealth merger candidate. Just a day after being worried about major
financial losses all over again…. Morningstar has listed this week three
of its favorite buyout targets in biotech from its pool of large
pharmaceuticals, devices, instruments, and services companies.
Those are Auxilium Pharmaceuticals Inc. (NASDAQ: AUXL), Human Genome
Sciences Inc. (NASDAQ: HGSI), and Vertex ... 阅读全帖

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12 月 1 日 又看了一则新闻, 呵呵
刚看了一则新闻关于麦当劳转卖的新闻,对于中国的食品安全,我总是千百个担忧,有
必要好好看一看接手人的背景及相关信息。接手麦当劳不容易啊。我不评论啊,只是观
看。你们撒的毒气越多,电磁波攻击的越强,我阅读的效果就越好。呵呵。
A consortium led by private-equity firm Carlyle Group (CG.O) and Chinese
conglomerate Citic Group Corp has neared a deal to buy McDonald's Corp's (
MCD.N) stores in China and Hong Kong for up to $3 billion, a source with
direct knowledge of the matter said.
The deal is likely to be signed before Christmas, the source said.
Reuters had reported in October that U.S... 阅读全帖
l****f
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - Romney太牛了
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/us/politics/retirement-deal-k
Buyout Profits Keep Flowing to Romney
Almost 13 years ago, Mitt Romney left Bain Capital, the successful private
equity firm he had helped start, and moved to Utah to rescue the Salt Lake
City Olympic Games and begin a second career in public life.
Yet when it came to his considerable personal wealth, Mr. Romney never
really left Bain.
In what would be the final deal of his private equity career, he negotiated
a retirement agreemen... 阅读全帖
w****n
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【 以下文字转载自 Automobile 讨论区 】
发信人: pandamalone (0000~史前圣灵猫熊), 信区: Automobile
标 题: 稍微多说几句关于lease bmw的好处,和具体操作
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 18 04:10:55 2015, 美东)
【 以下文字转载自 Auto_Fans 俱乐部 】
发信人: pandamalone (0000~史前圣灵猫熊), 信区: Auto_Fans
标 题: 稍微多说几句关于lease bmw的好处,和具体操作
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 16 14:14:59 2015, 美东)
先说结论: 如果不是要开的里程特别高,比如一年两三万mile这种
或者是要keep一辆车很久而且自己还会动手修车
否则lease bmw是经济上和体验上都更好的选择,相对购买.
下面说原因.
首先大方向上,如果自己不会修车,bmw不算是适合长期持有的车,
因为整体上一方面它的可靠性只算中规中矩,另一方面它不是很repair friendly
那么意味着出了保修,无论是必须要进行的保养,还是... 阅读全帖
p*********e
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【 以下文字转载自 Automobile 讨论区 】
发信人: cassis (KW), 信区: Automobile
标 题: Re: 稍微多说几句关于lease bmw的好处,和具体操作 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 21 03:16:50 2015, 美东)
我觉得他说的大体上是对的,至少中心思想上。
Lease的车total掉的话,原则上你欠car company的钱相当于early buyout。这个early
buyout具体怎么算我不是很清楚,应该不完全是随时间线性递减的。保险公司陪的钱
比这个early buyout少得话,有GAP insurance的话由GAP insurance负责差价,否则是
你付。
举个极端例子吧,你lease个5万卖价的车,开出去第一天就total掉。假设没有down
payment,这时候的early buyout就应该是5万。保险公司多半不会按新车全价陪,假如
它只陪4万5的话,你(或者GAP)陪剩余的5千。
假如你事先付了5千首付,这时候early buyout应该是4万5,刚好和保险公司陪的一样
,所以G... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Automobile版 - lease到期余款可以finance么
dealer和lease公司有可能是一个集团名称,但不是一家。比如你从GM的dealer lease
一辆车,贷款公司是ACAR,归属GM Financial,或者从FCA的dealer lease了一辆车,
lease的贷款公司是Chrysler Capital,那么你如果想buyout你lease的车,你只需要联
系GM Financial或者Chrysler Capital,不需要理dealer,第一车不是dealer own的,
第二disposition fee和Residual Value都是lease贷款公司在你签lease contract时定
好的,和dealer没关系。
你需要做的事儿:
1.联系你自己的credit union或者银行,说我要buyout我lease的车,看他们能给你多
少APR
2.根据lease的截至日期,提前60-90天(至少留出30天时间)联系lease company,说我
要buyout我目前lease的车,给我一个buyout报价(通常这个报价有效期是半个月),他
们通常会免掉你的disposition fee甚至最后一个月的paym... 阅读全帖
h****z
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2009年买断,现在又要IPO,但好像过去两年亏钱
Before the controversial buyout of J. Crew, there was Bankrate.
Back in 2009, Bankrate management and two of its directors,
including its chairman, teamed up with the private equity firm Apax
Partners to take the company private. This team ended up buying
Bankrate, a consumer financial information company, but did so
pursuant to a sale process that came under heavy criticism by
Institutional Shareholder Services, among others.
The Bankrate board appeared to abdicate its... 阅读全帖
y*****l
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关注这4家公司。
http://finviz.com/screener.ashx?v=341&t=GLW,OVTI,CRUS,BRCM
Apple's Cash Should Be Used For These Acquisitions Instead
http://seekingalpha.com/article/457611-apple-s-cash-should-be-u
Apple (AAPL) recently announced that they would be paying out a cash
dividend of $2.65 per quarter, which is around a 1.8% dividend. They also
announced that they would be instituting a share buyback plan of $10 billion
starting in September. While this is great for income investors, I think
Apple could have... 阅读全帖
D*********t
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来自主题: Stock版 - Why don't I like DDD---to boy-lover
this guy like buyout...just like ZNGA
buyout is a short-cut but not necessary to success---
spend too much money may be a very bad action for a growth company---
the best way is to establish its own R&D, like XONE
the direct bad thing for us is that DDD may issue new shares soon to cover
the buyout cost. I think this will happen very soon...
However, I hope it can buyout XONE, which has very valuable patents not just
machines...
I expect DDD went up to 60 level then the new shares will be issued... 阅读全帖
j**4
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-tr
Romney started off at the Boston Consulting Group, where he showed an
aptitude for crunching numbers and glad-handing clients. Then, in 1977, he
joined a young entrepreneur named Bill Bain at a firm called Bain & Company,
where he worked for six years before being handed the reins of a new firm-
within-a-firm called Bain Capital.
In Romney's version of the tale, Bain Capital – which evolved into what is
today known as a private equi... 阅读全帖
j**4
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【 以下文字转载自 NewYork 讨论区 】
发信人: ja94 (世上最幸福的人-- taliban的妻子), 信区: NewYork
标 题: for all u chinese who think u are "upper class"...
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 17 11:57:15 2012, 美东)
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-tr
Romney started off at the Boston Consulting Group, where he showed an
aptitude for crunching numbers and glad-handing clients. Then, in 1977, he
joined a young entrepreneur named Bill Bain at a firm called Bain & Company,
where he worked for six years before bein... 阅读全帖
l*****y
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来自主题: NCAA版 - NCAA主教练合同
Buyout基本都是随着合同剩余时间递减的
第一年fire,Buyout肯定很高,
但没有什么大事,恐怕豪门也不会这么草率的雇人开人
一般到了第三年第四年再开,buyout就已经不多了,
基本是豪门比较容易接受的数字,
而且还可以商量个还款计划,可以让buyout不那么难看

的.
a*********n
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What is private equity?" was the common question asked in China back in the
1990s.
The terminology was not as widespread as it is today, with only a handful of
private equity firms active in the market. I recall having to conduct a
small
seminar with a company's management team, explaining the virtues of private
equity
before any transaction terms could be discussed. Times have changed since
the
early years as China is now home to over 200 China-dedicated funds raising
over
$15bn (Rmb 103bn, 0.8... 阅读全帖
f**********g
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来自主题: _pennystock版 - svnt
Look Beyond the Botched Buyout Process for Savient's Value
by: Stone Fox Capital October 27, 2010
Savient (SVNT) refused to provide information on the failed buyout process
on its Tuesday conference call. So investors were left guessing at the
interest level. On the one hand, it's understandable that management doesn't
want to discuss details in order to not hurt their hand in future
discussions. On the other hand, they need to do something better to support
the stock price and shareholders. Man... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - CNN开始抄员工了
CNN Washington Bureau Suffering From Low Morale After Layoffs: “People were
crying all over the bureau”
by Jammie via Jammie Wearing Fools
Just imagine how much crying there was on election night.
CNN’s Washington bureau is suffering from low morale and high anxiety
in the wake of weeks of layoffs and buyouts — with one employee likening
the place to the Redskins’ locker room.
In conversations with POLITICO, sources at the bureau spoke of tension
in the office as several longtime staffer... 阅读全帖
x*********s
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【 以下文字转载自 PDA 讨论区 】
发信人: xrhinoceros (elegant rhino), 信区: PDA
标 题: 【进展】newegg上花钱买意外保修的经历
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 27 12:05:00 2013, 美东)
发帖之后,经某版友提示,又给newegg写了封信,过了几天之后又给servicenet打电话
,这次他们不再推皮球了,决定buyout我的contract。昨天填了一个合同,大意是说他
们buyout我的contract,从此之后再无关系。
buyout contract他们提供了两种方案,一个是写支票(去年买手机的价格),一个是
他们给我买一个一样的手机。
希望不要再扯皮。
一个手机从保修(08/08)到有解决方案(11/26),真的是拖的时间太长了。
不过因为我选了第一个方案,如果不考虑我的时间成本和使用不便的话,我还是占了便
宜的,毕竟相当于用保险钱59.99用了9个月的GS3。不过考虑到扯皮和使用不便,我宁
愿他们信守合同,5天修好寄给我。
要不要加入“再用Newegg剁手党”呢?
感谢现在记不住ID,让我写信... 阅读全帖
f********e
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都是些不知名的blog在放风,pump.....
Nasdaq Spotlight: Hot Tech Stock Spikes on Buyout Rumors
Read more: http://www.beaconequity.com/nasdaq-spotlight-hot-tech-stock-spikes-on-buyout-rumors-
2010-10-06/#ixzz11brsnc63
STEC Inc. (NASDAQ: STEC) is a Santa Ana, California-based technology company
providing enterprise-class
Flash solid-state drives for enterprise storage systems and servers that
companies utilize to retain and access
their critical data. The company designs its products specifically for
storage s... 阅读全帖
s*********8
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MEE
DALLAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- The Briscoe Law Firm, PLLC, founded by a former
state prosecutor and enforcement attorney for the United States Securities
and Exchange Commission, and the securities litigation law firm of Powers
Taylor, LLP are investigating potential legal claims against
the Board of Directors of Massey Energy Company (“Massey Energy” or “MEE
”) (NYSE:MEE - News) related to the proposed buyout of Massey Energy by
Alpha Natural Resources. The definitive acquisition agreement, whic... 阅读全帖
o*******w
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来自主题: Stock版 - HGSI, GNOM or ROSG (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 MoneyFriends 俱乐部 】
发信人: opiumsnow (谦虚使人进步), 信区: MoneyFriends
标 题: HGSI, GNOM or ROSG
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 26 15:19:24 2012, 美东)
If it feels like there's a little more activity and interest in Human Genome
Sciences (NASDAQ:HGSI), Rosetta Genomics Ltd. (NASDAQ:ROSG), and Complete
Genomics, Inc. (NASDAQ:GNOM), you're not crazy - there is. The fact that
GNOM, HGSI, and ROSG are all up big-time today is proof enough of that
sudden interest, but even on a more subjective level there's cl... 阅读全帖
N*****d
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来自主题: Stock版 - ANV已经破产了
ANVGQ
去年曾经还出了个buyout rumor
Trading in Allied was halted Jan. 14 before the open of the NYSE MKT in New
York, where the shares are listed under the symbol ANV. The stock did not
resume trading until about 15 minutes after Allied released its statement
about the China Gold announcement around 1 p.m., according to Thom. Trading
was also halted in Toronto, where the shares are also listed under ANV, at 8
:50 a.m. The stock resumed trading at 1:15 p.m.
In the end, the stock rose 31 cents to $4.62 in ... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Stock版 - 跟烧!

她意思是buyout之前买的otm call, buyout价钱还不到strike, 所以变废纸,这是最悲
催的死法。buyout宣布后肯定没人再买otm call了。
a******o
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阿里巴巴应该没能力接盘全部yahoo,应该也没这个兴趣,好像只是想收回yahoo持有的
40%粑粑股份而已。
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/blackstone-bain-mull-yahoo-bid-00
Blackstone, Bain plan Yahoo bid: source
ReutersReuters – 8 hours ago
By Nadia Damouni
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Blackstone Group and Bain Capital are preparing a bid
for all of Yahoo Inc with Asian partners in a deal that could value the
Internet company at about $25 billion, a source familiar with the matter
said on Wednesday.
The potential bid by the consortium, which would include... 阅读全帖
w***i
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出现了buyout后最初的买家能收到退款吗?
是第一个buyout的人肯定中标,还是大家加价竞争buyout的权力?
t***u
发帖数: 20182
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不退还,归版面了.
不加价,按照顺序来,避免土豪垄断
[在 wufei (吾飞) 的大作中提到:]
:出现了buyout后最初的买家能收到退款吗?
:是第一个buyout的人肯定中标,还是大家加价竞争buyout的权力?
w***i
发帖数: 9926
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出现了buyout后最初的买家能收到退款吗?
是第一个buyout的人肯定中标,还是大家加价竞争buyout的权力?
t***u
发帖数: 20182
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不退还,归版面了.
不加价,按照顺序来,避免土豪垄断
[在 wufei (吾飞) 的大作中提到:]
:出现了buyout后最初的买家能收到退款吗?
:是第一个buyout的人肯定中标,还是大家加价竞争buyout的权力?
p*****w
发帖数: 82
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来自主题: Quant版 - Financial Engineering is Dead; (ZT)
URL: http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2007/09/19/financial-engineering-is-dead-long-live-growth-equity/
The wallets of Wall Street banks are shut tight as they figure out how to
offload all those sagging buyout loans. So what is a leveraged-buyout firm
with a heap of cash in its pocket to do? Try Growth Equity.
It is a term that you will likely hear more in the next six months, given
the increasing chorus predicting that 2008 will be well under way before the
leveraged-buyout-loan mess starts to get c
y********g
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银行0.9m的交税税率和企业应该不同吧,我不知道是高还是低。如果要是高一些的话就
make sense了。
即便如此,个人还是“逃税了”。他本来应该把税后利润1m中的0.9m给银行,所以自己
得0.1m,这样回报率就和不借钱一样了。但现在由于利息不上税,相同的税率必然少交很多税。作为一
个借钱才实现buyout的人,银行代表社会为其承担了很大的风险。这个人无论如何要比相同的一个
不借钱就完成buyout的人要赚得少才对。
鉴于银行已经从利息中体现了承担风险的价值,应该提高LBO经营者的交税额,要么提高税率,要么利息
不tax deductible,直到offset到比一个不借钱就能buyout的人利润率低才对。
只有让一个借钱的人感觉到疼,才能让他借钱投资的时候小心再小心。现在的政策是不仅不疼,反而更
甜,怎么可能不乱。
n****c
发帖数: 512
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The current market bears a striking resemblance to another range-bound,
election-burdened year. So how'd that one end?
SOMETIMES, A WRITER HAS TO stretch and twist to find a patch of market
history that matches up neatly with the present one. (Trust me.)
But it's become easy to draw parallels with 2004, a year that's been a
touchstone for this column for a while—a corrective, digestive, trading-
range-burdened election year, one that saw an economic slowdown from
strong levels that incited "doub... 阅读全帖
B*****e
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来自主题: _Stockcafeteria版 - CHS
In this quarter, most of apparel retails beat estimated earning. According
to earning, CHS's growth is very fast and has no debts. Now CHS is in the
stage of break through. Also buyout rumor is spreading. I predict that CHS
will have 20~30% in one month.
BTW, anybody remembers JCG buyout and I fortunately experienced it. I hope
I can experience another buyout.
YMYD, think once more if you want to follow.
http://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=chs
Market Comparison P/E (TTM) P/E (Forward
12 Months)... 阅读全帖
d*****d
发帖数: 10658
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来自主题: _Stockcafeteria版 - 为什么short 股票
很有道理.
大家觉得如何避免short到被buyout的股票,看基本面上的哪一点会知道这个公司有被
buyout的可能?因为buyout可是做空人最心惊胆战的了.
t******g
发帖数: 462
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来自主题: _pennystock版 - Blackstone, Bain plan Yahoo bid for $20
YHOO盘后涨了一块钱, 不知道杨支援会不会又出来放大家鸽子
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Blackstone Group and Bain Capital are preparing a bid
for all of Yahoo Inc with Asian partners in a deal that could value the
Internet company at about $25 billion, a source familiar with the matter
said on Wednesday.
The potential bid by the consortium, which would include China's Alibaba
Group and Japan's Softbank Corp, has not yet been finalized, the source and
two other people familiar with the matter said.
Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba,... 阅读全帖
S*********y
发帖数: 481
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来自主题: Military版 - 米国九大公司走向覆灭
Nine Great American Companies That Will Never Recover
By Douglas A. McIntyre | 24/7 Wall St – Wed, Aug 8, 2012
Many American companies have been lauded for their rapid rise to greatness,
a process that sometimes takes less than a decade. These firms become
leaders in their industries, are renowned for innovation, phenomenal growth,
and, in the case of public corporations, their soaring share prices. Google
Inc. (NASDAQ: GOOG) usually makes the list, as does Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:
AAPL). At the othe... 阅读全帖
S**n
发帖数: 403
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来自主题: Military版 - AMD要向TG投诚了
Analysts Weigh In On Advanced Micro Devices Buyout Rumor
Shares of Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
AMD 6.53% surged more than 5 percent Monday amid a rumor that China’s BLX
IC Design Corp is interested in acquiring the company.
BLX was founded in 2002 and opened a Beijing-based computing client
development center with AMD in 2003.
Commenting on the rumor, Bernstein analyst Stacy A. Rasgon seemed skeptical
of a possible buyout offer and would be “surprised that Lisa Su’s first
task as CEO would be t... 阅读全帖

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12月 谈谈间谍问题
我一直感觉Reuters 有日本的间谍,他们会通过报道来传递针对华人屠杀的计划,和发
布不利于华人的报道,制造舆论。最重要他们后边的势力和犯罪集团有关。有必要好好
调查这个组织。
How top U.S. colleges hooked up with controversial Chinese companies
By Steve Stecklow and Alexandra Harney
Filed Dec. 2, 2016, noon GMT
New Oriental, China’s biggest private educator, has been accused of
academic fraud. Thanks to two enterprising Americans, it has also gained
access to leading U.S. college admissions officers.
SHANGHAI/SHELTER ISLAND, New York - Thomas Benson once ran a small... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Military版 - 12 月26日 可能的真相
12月26日 事实的真相
以前我们分析过,Augusta, GA 只是这个人体基地的一个点,而且我们也追踪到还有一
个点在加州。那么经过更多的分析,显示事实的真相可能是如此。这些地下通道是很久
以前就存在的,是为了战争或避难用的,后来在南北战争中,又充当奴隶逃跑到北方的
通道。那么在后来的后来,就被一些别有用心的人充当了非法活动的场地。而到了80年
代后,日本人就加入进来,把其改造成了一个军事,人体实验基地,成了报复美国的一
种手段。当然,我也强调历史和解,仇恨和解,但要在正确的认知,悔改下的和解。如
果一边在屠杀受害者,一边高谈和解,并千方百计掩盖事情真相的曝光,这不是悔改的
表现,最多是转移了屠杀的目标,我们不能原谅罪恶势力彼此勾结下的和解。根据分析
,这个基地的入口就在Deerfield, ILLinois. 世界每一个人都是这个基地的受害者,
都是这些大药厂的受害者,受害者以亿为单位来计算。你们很可能都在不知不觉中受到
了他们的伤害,请把信息传达到世界每一个角落,让我们一起携手和世界上最邪恶的势
力做顽强的斗争,他们现在还在屠杀无辜的受害者,每天在我家里杀人。请你们和我站
在... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Military版 - Chinese lesbian dating app Rela shuts down
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40092070
Chinese lesbian dating app Rela shuts down
30 May 2017
From the section Technology
GETTY IMAGES
A Chinese dating app for lesbians that has more than five million users has
been shut down.
The app, Rela, is no longer available in the Android or Apple app stores,
and its website and Sina Weibo account have been deleted.
Users began to notice that the app was not accessible last week. It is
unclear why it has been shut down.
Rela told its users on WeCha... 阅读全帖
c*******2
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高通之后, 下一个是300亿美元
Officials of aerospace and elevator company United Technologies have already
noted the peril
facing its $30 billion buyout of Rockwell Collins. Asked at an investment
conference on June
14 about whether the trade war might prevent the deal's closing, United
Technologies Chief
Financial Officer Akhil Johri said, "That is something you always have to
think about or worry
about."
后面还跟着一串
According to financial intelligence service Dealreporter, other deals
awaiting Chinese approval... 阅读全帖

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哈哈哈,有人爆料,莫雷想转行了, 所以故意支持香港
拿着package 走人
With one seven-word tweet on Friday -– “Fight Freedom. Stand With Hong
Kong” -– Rockets GM Daryl Morey sparked an international incident. The
response was swift. Owner Tilman Fertitta denounced the tweet, after an army
of bots slammed Morey in the replies; and then after Morey deleted it, they
ripped NBA figures such as Adrian “Woj” Wojnarowski, who simply liked the
tweet. Since then, the controversy has escalated to the point where the
NBA seems likely to... 阅读全帖
g**1
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Boeing to offer voluntary layoffs to employees to tide over coronavirus
fallout
Eric M. Johnson, Shubham Kalia
2 MIN READ
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-boeing/boeing-to-offer-voluntary-layoffs-to-employees-to-tide-over-coronavirus-fallout-idUSKBN21K0DK
SEATTLE (Reuters) - Boeing Co (BA.N) Chief Executive Officer Dave Calhoun
outlined a plan of voluntary layoffs for employees on Thursday, while
warning that the coronavirus pandemic would have a lasting impact on the
global ... 阅读全帖
g***y
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来自主题: USANews版 - 来美国给我的意识冲击
我忍不住想要profile你一下,不一定正确。
我感觉你在中国的黑暗时期长大,在观念形成的少年时代,被马克思思想包围。虽然长
大过程中,在新的观念冲击下,你意识到马克思思想,共产主义是evil。但是在潜意识
中,大同世界,按需分配的理想依旧埋藏着。(少年时代,潜意识,关键词都出来了,
哈哈哈)
下面认真说。
你的政治主张是理想驱动的,而不是现实驱动的。你觉得美国的民主制度是对的,美国
的资本主义是对的,你觉得中国之前的福利制度是对的,你觉得全民医疗是对的,你觉
得救济穷人是对的。把这些对的主张都放在一起,就是理想的制度,就是应该追求的目
标。所以当Obama chanted "hope" and "change"。顿时就resonated through your
heart.
但是你理想中的制度是不存在的。所有号称可以解救我们,把我们带向这个理想的人都
是混蛋和野心家,比如列宁,比如毛。
就像你觉得Cklein应该感激的社会主义福利,就只可能和那个极权社会一起出现。那种
福利是给“干部”的,上了大学,都是国家的人了,都是未来的国家干部,是未来的统
治阶级。所以那个年头的大学生如此的稀... 阅读全帖
g***y
发帖数: 1268
43
来自主题: USANews版 - 来美国给我的意识冲击
我忍不住想要profile你一下,不一定正确。
我感觉你在中国的黑暗时期长大,在观念形成的少年时代,被马克思思想包围。虽然长
大过程中,在新的观念冲击下,你意识到马克思思想,共产主义是evil。但是在潜意识
中,大同世界,按需分配的理想依旧埋藏着。(少年时代,潜意识,关键词都出来了,
哈哈哈)
下面认真说。
你的政治主张是理想驱动的,而不是现实驱动的。你觉得美国的民主制度是对的,美国
的资本主义是对的,你觉得中国之前的福利制度是对的,你觉得全民医疗是对的,你觉
得救济穷人是对的。把这些对的主张都放在一起,就是理想的制度,就是应该追求的目
标。所以当Obama chanted "hope" and "change"。顿时就resonated through your
heart.
但是你理想中的制度是不存在的。所有号称可以解救我们,把我们带向这个理想的人都
是混蛋和野心家,比如列宁,比如毛。
就像你觉得Cklein应该感激的社会主义福利,就只可能和那个极权社会一起出现。那种
福利是给“干部”的,上了大学,都是国家的人了,都是未来的国家干部,是未来的统
治阶级。所以那个年头的大学生如此的稀... 阅读全帖
df
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44
来自主题: Automobile版 - Lease车然后买下来
In general people would go against buyout after leasing, but it's really
case by case. I am leasing towards a buyout in 4 years.
c****f
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 2013infiniti G37 报价 反馈一下
不同学 你又想错了。。。因为这些是lease 所以如果他们吧base cap搞到1W off
dealer就亏大了 你buyout 29K这种deal dealer还能接受, 你lease 他们很难做 因为
这样一来一去 你算算residual最后dealer要亏多少 3年以后 你还车 对于dealer来说
已经是5年的车了。。所以lease很难谈到buyout那种deal的 懂了吧
anyway 开的爽就好 这车唯一不爽的地方就是太耗油 我混合只有不到15, 一礼拜加次
油 还好油价便宜。。

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不懂你说的啥意思……就是给你trade in的价格,你付掉lease buyout的钱,剩下的就
是自己的啊,trade in给任何dealer都可以,有时候可以拿到比退掉车多很多的钱啊
你欠lease 剩下的buyout的钱当然是自己的liability啊,这也算羊毛出在羊身上?
主要是有些人lease到期直接还了,而实际上另找个dealer trade in 还是有可能多拿
回些钱的啊
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