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发帖数: 3781 | 1 he is the only old calvinist left on this board.
a new calvinist is huo.
are you calvinist? |
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发帖数: 1424 | 2 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 向各位告別
真是版大删的？， 你确信？那之前之后的贴子可都不少哦．我记得那篇贴子消失的时候你正在玩命望别人信箱里面发私信呀． 听说都是些管好你的嘴呀， 你是谁呀之类的无聊东东．其实别人就是在回贴中暗示了你是ＭＩＫＥ ＨＵＯ而已．
1 Godwithus Jun 19 报道
2 Godwithus Jun 19 Re: 天平上的进化论和创造论
3 Godwithus Jun 19 Re: 25 CREATIONISTS' ARGUMENTS, 25
EVOLUTIONISTS'ANSWERS
4 Godwithus Jun 19 Re: 我就想知道
5 Godwithus Jun 19 Re: 报道
6 Godwithus Jun 19 Re: 摩门教信仰初看
7 Godwithus Jun 19 Re: LDS是个笑话吗？
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发帖数: 3781 | 3 Today there is growing division on this issue, most Calvinists insisting tha
t Christ died only for the elect. On the other hand, IFCA International, a g
roup of about 700 independent evangelical churches and 1,200 pastors (some o
f them Calvinists) declares in its doctrinal statement, "We believe that the
Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross for all mankind ... to accomplish the r
edemption of all who trust in him . . . ." Spurgeon himself, so often quoted
by Calvinists to support their view, re... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 4 By Dave Hunt
Calvinists are increasingly insisting that their peculiar dogmas represent t
he faith of "the Reformers who led the Reformation" and should be accepted b
y all evangelical Christians as true Christianity and as the biblical expres
sion of the gospel. There is much they stand for with which all Christians w
ould agree. There is much that almost all evangelicals think they agree with
because of misunderstandings, but actually do not, which will be clarified
in the following pages. And... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 5 calvinists did the same thing as the Rome Catholics. They killed and expell
ed the non-Calvinists.
If you follow Calvinists, your spiritual fathers were really murders as Jesu
s said to Jews.
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发帖数: 3781 | 6 Dave Hunt
Almost daily I found this subject was claiming a wider interest and greater
importance than I had ever imagined. It seemed obvious that there was great
need for further research and writing to deal with this important issue.
As it became known that I intended to write such a book, a number of pastors
cautioned me to refrain from publicly expressing myself on this subject bec
ause out of ignorance of its true teachings I had already misrepresented it.
A typical response from the Calvini... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 7 Calvinists are really like Calvinists.
calvinists here always say to me that I am not qualified to rebuke
calivinism
greater
great
pastors
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发帖数: 3781 | 8 Problem (1) verse against Limited Atonement
12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to my
self."
John 12:32 and John 3:16 are the most powerful verses to be used to rule out
the Calvinistic doctrine of Limited Atonement. We call it 4 point Calvinis
t if a person accept other 4 points of TULIP Calvinistic doctrines except fo
r the Limited Atonement.
Calvinists changed the meaning of "this world" in John 3:16 and "all people"
in John 12:32 to meet their doctrines. ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1911 | 9 If Calvinists on this board would be as humble as you did in the biblestudy
club, I would not rebuke Calvinism everyday here.
There are many new and young Christians visiting this board. It is sad to
see them one day becoming a Calvinist. They believed God is love when
baptized, but now they would believe that God predestined most of us
including their grandparents to hell. Calvinists’ God is much worse than
Allah.
You take Calvinism as your personal belief. But I don’t want to see you
pr... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 10 windking is a good Christian
he view is close to Calvinists
But Calvinists treat him as heresy because he is from local churches
needless to say, Calvinists themselves are the biggest Heresy |
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发帖数: 3781 | 11 calvinists don't love you
calvinists don't love myelsa
calvinists don't love imrobot
calvinism is satanic |
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发帖数: 3781 | 12 after I knew the cruelty of Calvinists, I think only a crusade for true gosp
el can help today's young christian.
winter is not a Calvinist. but she chose to keep silent.
You might or might not be a Calvinist. You chose to praise JYM and Seeketer
nal.
I am not a Christian. As a believer of LOVE, I will fight this crusade for
God.
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发帖数: 3781 | 13 http://www.bcbsr.com/topics/servetus.html
Michael Servetus was a Christian living in the 1500's who incurred the wrath
of John Calvin and was murdered by him and his cronies for illegitimate rea
sons. He was accused of heresy and railroaded through a mock trial and put t
o death being burned alive at the stake. Yet such an atrocity was praised by
even well-known Calvinists as Bullinger and others for generations.
A couple of quotes from John Calvin himself:
7 years before the incident:
"If he [S... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 14 Total Depravity --Make mankind trash. Trash cannot glorify God.
Unconditional Election-Make God irrational
Limited Atonement -- the biggest blasphemy. Calvinists shall go to hell for
this.
Irresistible Grace-Calvinists are day dreaming.
Perseverance of the Saints - the only assurance is Calvinists will go to hel
l. So Mr. Huo can understand the Revelation of some people going to hell |
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发帖数: 3781 | 15 The Hopelessness Of Imposed "Godliness"
Sadly, upon looking a bit more closely we find that in spite of threats and
torture, Calvin's Geneva was not as righteous a city as the selected optimis
tic stories seem to indicate. The surviving records of the Council of Geneva
unveil a city more similar to the rest of the world than Calvin's admirers
would like to admit. These documents reveal "a high percentage of illegitima
te children, abandoned infants, forced marriages, and sentences of death." 4
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发帖数: 3781 | 16 The Break With Calvinism
Arminius was as determined as Calvin to follow only the Lord and His Word. T
hat got him into trouble because he considered himself no more "bound to ado
pt all the private interpretations of the Reformed" 20 than those of the Rom
an Catholic Church. 21He concluded from earnest study of the scriptures that
in some respects Calvinism was simply not biblical. And he suffered persecu
tion for that careful and prayerful opinion.
Arminius was convinced that the scriptures tea... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 17 By Dave Hunt
Synods, Assemblies, Councils, And Confessions
Those who disagree with Calvinism today on the basis of their understanding
of God's Word are accused of abandoning, ignoring or even defying the great
confessions and established creeds of the church. We must ask, "Which church
?" Roman Catholics also refer to "the Church" in a similar manner, but milli
ons of true believers were not part of it for centuries before the Reformati
on, refusing to bow to the popes or to submit to Rome's he... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 18 These four headings were understood to contain five points, which the Calvin
ists at the Synod of Dort answered with what has become known as the Five Po
ints of Calvinism. The major difference is obvious: the Arminians put the bl
ame for man's eternal punishment upon man himself for rejecting, by his own
free will, the gospel, which he could have accepted through God's gracious e
nabling; whereas the Calvinists laid sin itself and the damnation of man tot
ally upon God who simply predestined ev... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 19 Once again the deck was stacked. Westminster was not a gathering of those re
presenting all true believers, but only of the Calvinists, who had gained th
e upper hand in Parliament. Today's boast is that "all of the Westminster di
vines were Calvinists." 57 Furthermore, as Vance wisely comments...... like
the Synod of Dort, the presence of government officials at an ostensibly rel
igious assembly raises some questions about its legitimacy." 58 Expenses of
the members were borne by the State. Eve... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 20 Calvinism's Admitted Irrationality
Such undeniable contradictions are innate within Calvinism and have caused d
ivisions among Calvinists, who cannot agree among themselves on the fine poi
nts of TULIP.
Consider the controversy over the fitness for ordination of Gordon H. Clark.
"Cornelius Van Til led the seminary faculty in a Complaint against Clark's
understanding of the Confession of Faith." 2 In essence, Clark was accused o
f "rationalism" for his unwillingness to pretend that salvation was ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 21 There is not a verse in the Bible, however, which presents Calvinism's radic
al idea that the sinner is incapable of believing the very gospel which offe
rs him forgiveness and salvation and yet he is condemned by God for failing
to believe. In fact, as we shall see, the Bible declares otherwise. "All men
everywhere" (Acts 17:30) are repeatedly called upon to repent and to believ
e on Christ. One would never derive from Scripture the idea that the unregen
erate are unable to believe. Dave Breese... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 22 Calvinistic view is that God intentionally made all of us so wicked and the
eternal hell is our doomed future.
But Jesus died for the Calvinists. The wicked Calvinists were saved before
the creation of this world. |
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发帖数: 3781 | 23 Calvinists claim that Jesus Christ only died for the elect.
Calvinists reason that the blood of Jesus shall be effective. If Jesus died
for you, you must be saved whatsoever.
So Calvinists will not say Jesus died for you because you might not be the e
lect.
on the contrary, Arminians claim that Jesus died for all human beings. Yes,
Jesus died for you as well! But a person must recieve Jesus Christ as savio
r and repent his/her sin so that the holy blood will become effective to him
self/herse... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 24 Calvinists are fighting Wind-mill
the foolish Calvinist fights a target created by himself
don't be a stupid Calvinist |
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发帖数: 1911 | 25 马可福音16章16节 信而受洗的，必然得救；不信的，必被定罪。
according to bible, Non-Trinitarian Christians shall be saved too. Perceivi
ng that the doctrine of Trinity is not a clear teaching of Jesus Christ. We
shall allow Chrisitans to have different views about The Divinity of Christ
.
As long as a person acknowledge that Jesus Christ is the son of God; Jesus d
ied on the cross for all mankind (Calvinists deny this); repent sins; accept
Jesus Christ as personal savior, this person is saved by faith. Peroid.
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发帖数: 1911 | 26 calvinists started this war, not me
Luke 6:37 Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you
will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
Yesterdy, the Calvinists judged Christians. today, I judge the Calvinists. |
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发帖数: 1911 | 27 calvinists started this war, not me
Luke 6:37 Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you
will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
Yesterdy, the Calvinists judged Christians. today, I judge the Calvinists. |
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发帖数: 3781 | 28 by Dave Hunt
For God to act as Calvinism teaches would be inconsistent with the repeated
assurance in His Word that He is merciful and loving toward all. The committ
ed Calvinist W.G.T. Shedd wrote, "The charges that have been made ... from t
ime immemorial are, that Calvinism represents God as a tyrannical sovereign
who is destitute of love and mercy for any but an elect few, that it attribu
tes to man the depravity of devils, deprives him of moral freedom, and subje
cts him to the arbitrary cr... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1911 | 29 by Dave Hunt
When Is Depravity Not Total?
To support their doctrine of Total Depravity, Calvinists must reconcile it w
ith the obvious fact that the most ungodly people are capable of some morall
y good thoughts and deeds. Nor can that fact be explained away by always att
ributing the ungodly's good deeds to selfish motives.
Some unsaved soldiers have selflessly thrown themselves upon hand grenades t
o save their buddies' lives - an act of heroic compassion from which many Ch
ristians would shri... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1911 | 30 by Dave Hunt
When Is Depravity Not Total?
To support their doctrine of Total Depravity, Calvinists must reconcile it w
ith the obvious fact that the most ungodly people are capable of some morall
y good thoughts and deeds. Nor can that fact be explained away by always att
ributing the ungodly's good deeds to selfish motives.
Some unsaved soldiers have selflessly thrown themselves upon hand grenades t
o save their buddies' lives - an act of heroic compassion from which many Ch
ristians would shri... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8336 | 31 Question: "Calvinism vs. Arminianism - which view is correct?"
Answer: Calvinism and Arminianism are two systems of theology that attempt
to explain the relationship between God's sovereignty and man's
responsibility in the matter of salvation. Calvinism is named for John
Calvin, a French theologian who lived from 1509-1564. Arminianism is named
for Jacobus Arminius, a Dutch theologian who lived from 1560-1609.
Both systems can be summarized with five points. Calvinism holds to the
total depravi... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 32 1 Isaac Newton the Newtonian Revolution Anglican (rejected
Trinitarianism, i.e., Athanasianism;
believed in the Arianism of the Primitive Church)
2 Albert Einstein Twentieth-Century Science Jewish
3 Neils Bohr the Atom Jewish Lutheran
4 Charles Darwin Evolution Anglican (nominal); Unitarian
5 Louis Pasteur the Germ Theory of Disease Catholic
6 Sigmund Freud Psychology of the Unconscious Jewish; Atheist;
Freudian psychoanalysis (Freudianism)
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发帖数: 16092 | 33 The list below is from the book The Scientific 100: A Ranking of the Most
Influential Scientists, Past and Present, Citadel Press (2000), written by
John Galbraith Simmons.
1 Isaac Newton the Newtonian Revolution Anglican (rejected Trinitarianism, i
.e., Athanasianism;
believed in the Arianism of the Primitive Church)
2 Albert Einstein Twentieth-Century Science Jewish
3 Neils Bohr the Atom Jewish Lutheran
4 Charles Darwin Evolution Anglican (nominal); Unitarian
5 Louis Pasteur the Germ Theory of... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 77 | 34 智商：的全称是智力商数，它是衡量一个人智力高低的重要指标，它反映的是一个人智
力的强弱，聪明的程度，智慧的情况。智商一般采用（智力年龄/生理年龄）*100的智
商公式进行测算。
智商的等级
140以上 天才或近于天才
120-140 智力优异
110-120 智力较高
90-110 普通智力
80-90 迟钝
70-80 介乎迟钝与低能之间
70以下 确定为智力低下
50-70分者属愚笨
25-50分者为痴呆
0-25分者为白痴
人群中95%的人的智商都在70-130之间，超过140以上的人大概在人群的0.25%左右。
世界上最著名的高智商的名人就是超级艺术大师意大利的达·芬奇（IQ220），他无论
是在艺术领域，还是在自然科学领域，都取得了惊人的成就。他的眼光与科学知识水平
超越了他的时代，他的传世巨作《蒙娜丽莎》油画，成为有史以来最有价值的艺术品。
高智商的人在科学和艺术方面的贡献巨大，几乎每一位大数学家，物理学家都是智商超
过160以上的天才，从牛顿到爱因斯坦，再从开普勒到霍金，无一例外。正是由于他们
的超人智商，才使他们有能力解决旷世难题，创立学科和理论，为人类的进步和发展做
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发帖数: 2988 | 35 另外 catholic 比 新教徒 富裕也不一定是事实吧。东北的新教徒大多是英国和北欧
移民，catholic是大陆和南欧后裔。要说富裕，最顶层是应该是WASP和Jews, 不是吗？
南方(cal, texas, florida)的catholic有相当大比例是latino, 应该不会比
当地的新教图富裕。
- London and the home counties = Anglican
- Hamburg (Germany) = lutheran
- Brabant-Wallon (Belgium) = catholic
- Ile-de-France (France) = catholic
- Bavaria (Germany) = catholic (56,4%)
- Stuttgart (Germany) = protestant (33,7%) & catholic (27,4%)
- Zurich (Switzerland) = catholic (33,3%) & calvinist
- Genève (Switzerland) = catholic (39,5%) &... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 36 That's why I hate Calvinists so much.
She joined LDS only one year ago. These articles were written before that.
At that time, Calvinists called her JW because of her view of the trinity a
nd millennial kingdom.
I read bible myself. I agree with oneness and doctrine of the millennial ki
ngdom. Does it make me a JW? |
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发帖数: 3781 | 37 it is useless to talk to a calvinist
only burning can work
I hope one day we can burn all the calvinists, in the name of God! |
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发帖数: 10575 | 38 http://www.godoor.com/book/library/html/theology/JDJYDL/frame.htm
第一章 导论
这本书不是要提出一个新的神学思想，而是要把这个一般人称作「改革宗信仰*（The
Reformed Faith）」或「加尔文主义*（Calvinism）」的伟大思想做一番整理，并且证
明这信仰绝对合於圣经，也绝对合於理性。
今天很少人还会注意预定论（predestination），即使是一般人眼中的「死硬派预定论
者」对预定论的了解也未必很完全。不过今天大部份福音派*（evangelical）教会都还
把预定论摆在信条里；预定论也曾经对政治界与教会界产生很大的影响。欧美的长老会
*（Presbyterian）与改革宗教会*（Reformed Church）中各支派的信条都完全符合加
尔文主义；浸信会与公理会*（Congregational Church）虽然没有列出它们的信条，但
从他们具有代表性的神学著作与教导来看，大体上也认同加尔文主义；伟大的荷兰自由
教会*（Free Church）以及所有的苏格兰教会*（Church of Scotl... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 39 calvinists, see who wins
the posts you were so afraid of is still here!
open your calvinistic eyes and see! |
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发帖数: 1911 | 40 First of all, everyone on the board should confirm that "myelsa is a true Ch
ristian". I know only the Calvinists deny this fact. Last week, I saw a Ca
tholic "simonwang" denied myelsa's true Christian belief. But the Calvinist
s also think the Catholic will go to hell. So, let's just forget about the
Catholic simonwang.
I don't like the word "trinity" because the Catholics kill many people for t
his strange concept. The connection among the God, Jesus and HS is undeniab
le. Both myelsa an... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1911 | 41 Mormons also believe in the Bible.
why not spend some time reading the Book of Mormon?
you are so interested in the Mormon/protestant comparison.
I hate the Calvinism. I do spend time reading their articles (written by th
e Calvinist, not by anti-Calvinist).
please read .... |
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发帖数: 1035 | 42 from http://oaklandcpc.pcusa.cc/downloads/chsim-trinity.html
三合一神的辉煌：三位一体的必要性和神秘性
作者：司考特•克拉克R. Scott Clark 历史神学与系统神学副教授 西敏斯特加
州神学院
原文发表于(c)1999 Modern Reformation 版权保留
"以色列阿，你要听。耶和华我们神是独一的主!" 与多神教的邻国相比，以色列相当注
意独一真神这
一事实（这也被对应称为“一神论”monotheism）。尽管“一神论”是基督教信仰的源
头，但三位一体
却是基督教关于神的教义的本质。伊斯兰教使这个世界上发展最快的宗教之一，也是一
神论的。但是
伊斯兰教完全否认三位一体论。犹太教长期以来将三位一体论批判为多神论。很明显，
三位一体论成
为很多人的绊脚石。但若缺了它，基督教也就不再是基督教了。三位一体论是受到异教
徒攻击的很多
基督教教义中的一个，他们批判这些教义为“天主教那些不可被质疑的信仰”。而他们
关于三位一体的
言论得早已得到了决断（见：海德堡要理问答 22）。从四世纪以来，正统天主教徒在
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发帖数: 1911 | 43 huo is calvinist.
calvinists worship evil "god"---satan. |
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发帖数: 1911 | 44 TULIP is so so evil
if you believe TULIP, you are not christian
all you said here is nonsense
justifcation by faith is from John 3:16
John 3:16 also prove the TULIP is wrong
why I call calvinists cult?
I don't know calvin at all one year ago.
but finally I found out that the bad guys who attacking myelsa here are all
calvinists! what a coincidence! If I don't fight back, more true christian
will leave this board or become Mormon like myelsa.
starting
we |
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s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 45 the calvinists deleted all her posts. at that time, she is non-denomination
al. the calvinists treat her so mean. but she is always humble and tender
in spirit. If there is a truth, the truth must be on her side. |
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发帖数: 3781 | 46 may god condemn calvinists
calvinists repent! |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 47 calvinists are satan believers
ban the calvinists on this board |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 48 he is also calvinist
calvinists are haters |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 49 God is love
calvinists believes in hate
calvinists are satan believers |
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发帖数: 4968 | 50 你这么做的实际效果是使这里不支持加尔文主义的弟兄姊妹也开不了口了。
calvinists believes in hate
calvinists are satan believers
calvinism is so evil
the most evil cult in the world
I never met a cult being so evil
the most evil cult on this earth is 归正宗/改革宗 |
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