n*******y
发帖数: 3337 | 1 TOKYO (AP) -- Japan's nuclear regulators raised the severity level of the
crisis at a stricken nuclear plant Tuesday to rank it on par with the 1986
Chernobyl disaster.
An official with the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan, speaking on
national television, said the rating was being raised from 5 to 7 -- the
highest level on the international scale.
The official, who was not named, said the amount of radiation leaking from
the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant was around 10 percent of the Cherno... 阅读全帖 |
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b******n
发帖数: 4225 | 4 这次会不会创造一个新的level, , level 8?
毕竟chernobyl 才爆了一个reactor |
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s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 5 x1000差不多。
chernobyl爆了以后第二天就盖上了，然后50万士兵clean up.
现在会有吗？我估计弄一个100km无人区。说不定还得大，现在的人命值钱，
有点放射就得撤。 |
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c**********e
发帖数: 3298 | 6 我也觉得，要是超过chernobyl,那还不就是要上8了 |
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m*****f
发帖数: 185 | 7 【 以下文字转载自 Physics 讨论区 】
发信人: maxleaf (max), 信区: Physics
标 题: kaku说要chernobyl option
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 15 15:18:51 2011, 美东)
可能是瞎掰。他不是专家，是粒子理论写科普的。刚出事时就在电视上说得眉飞色舞。 |
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w********s
发帖数: 343 | 8 The worst of the worst could come if Japan can't come up with a way to
sufficiently cool down the reactor fuel cores. That has reportedly become
increasingly difficult with workers evacuating the sites -- at least
temporarily -- because of high radiation fields.
"These things play out over a long period of time, longer than people would
think," Allen said. "You have an earthquake that lasts maybe a minute, a
tsunami that lasts maybe 15 minutes. But these things could go on for months
. You could... 阅读全帖 |
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D******g
发帖数: 289 | 9 Inside the Chernobyl Reactor |
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w******k
发帖数: 299 | 11 chernobyl, 写个上周末dancing social小结啥的吧, 也让我们有如身临其境一下. |
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z****6
发帖数: 10776 | 12 这个不是The Battle of Chernobyl吧？我觉得youtube上这个更好一些 |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 13 S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl (THQ Title) $4.99
Released: 6/8/2010
File Size: 4 GB
Link:
http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/horrorfortheholidays/
Developer: GSC Game World
Publisher: THQ Inc.
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Original Price: $19.99
Comparatively :
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IGN SCORE 8.2
"Great"
Press Score 8.1
32 ratings
Reader Score 8.3
694 ratings
Review
Link:
http://pc.ign.com/objects/480/480467.html
System Requirements
OS: Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows7
Processor: ... 阅读全帖 |
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m*****a
发帖数: 92 | 14 Japan Nuclear Crisis: What Is a Full Meltdown?
Tuesday March 15, 2011 2:50 PM - Leave a Comment
Japan is on the brink of a nuclear disaster in the wake of its
devastating earthquake and tsunami, with a third explosion at the
Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station damaging the steel containment
structure of one reactor, and a fire at another spewing radioactive
material into the air. Before the latest explosion and fire, as workers
raced to stay ahead of a full meltdown, The Daily Beast spoke wi... 阅读全帖 |
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w********s
发帖数: 343 | 15 Don't know why they mention this as a means to cope with radiation. Anyone
would like to explain?
Pentagon preparing for a nuclear worst-case scenario at Fukushima
By Chris Carroll
Published: March 16, 2011
WASHINGTON — If the deteriorating situation at a Japanese nuclear plant
veers toward a worst-case meltdown scenario, people across the country —
including 86,000 American servicemembers, civilian employees and their
dependents — could face an unprecedented atomic disaster.
The Pentagon on Wed... 阅读全帖 |
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p*****a
发帖数: 1152 | 16 Seems very effective after the Chernobyl accident:
http://goo.gl/y6Yyo
Historical use and analysis
Following the Chernobyl nuclear reactor disaster in April, 1986, a saturated
solution of potassium iodide (SSKI) was administered to 10.5 million
children and 7 million adults in Poland[26] as a prophylactic measure
against
accumulation of radioactive iodine-131 in the thyroid gland. People in the
areas immediately surrounding Chernobyl itself, however, were not given the
supplement.[27]
Potassium ... 阅读全帖 |
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D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 17 Find a wiki term:
Chernobyl compared with an atomic bomb
Far fewer people died as an immediate result of the Chernobyl event than
died of radiation at Hiroshima, and the eventual total is also
significantly less when including those predicted by the WHO to die in
the future.
Due to the differences in half-life the different radioactive fission
products undergo exponential decay at different rates. Hence the
isotopic signature of an event where more than one radioisotope is
involved will change w... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2812 | 18 Last Defense at Troubled Reactors: 50 Japanese Workers
By KEITH BRADSHER and HIROKO TABUCHI
A small crew of technicians, braving radiation and fire, became the only
people remaining at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station on Tuesday
— and perhaps Japan’s last chance of preventing a broader nuclear
catastrophe.
They crawl through labyrinths of equipment in utter darkness pierced only by
their flashlights, listening for periodic explosions as hydrogen gas
escaping from crippled reactors ign... 阅读全帖 |
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l**m
发帖数: 5113 | 19 对这种有牺牲精神的人我表示敬意
Last Defense at Troubled Reactors: 50 Japanese Workers
By KEITH BRADSHER and HIROKO TABUCHI
A small crew of technicians, braving radiation and fire, became the only
people remaining at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station on Tuesday
— and perhaps Japan’s last chance of preventing a broader nuclear
catastrophe.
They crawl through labyrinths of equipment in utter darkness pierced only by
their flashlights, listening for periodic explosions as hydrogen gas
escaping from crip... 阅读全帖 |
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m**l
发帖数: 11854 | 20 日本称现在已经泄了尔诺贝利的10%了，还在源源不断地泄
"It is quite different from Chernobyl," said Mr. Nishiyama. "First, the
amount of released radiation is about a tenth of Chernobyl," he said, adding
that while there were 29 deaths resulting from short-term exposure to high
doses of radiation at Chernobyl, there were no such deaths at Fukushima.
."At Chernobyl, the nuclear reactor itself exploded," he said, adding that
at the Fukushima plant, the pressure vessel and the containment vessel were
largely intact.
Still, F... 阅读全帖 |
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y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 21
好啊，军二版还真有人相信世界末日啊！！！大家快来看啊！
你知不知道沸水堆和石墨堆的区别？那些反应堆即使放着不管它，有多少熔点
3000度的氧化铀陶瓷燃料棒能变成气体，能被它自己烧成微粒？起火燃烧就以为
能烧成气体了烧成微粒进入大气了，你到底知道烧的是什么吗？
你知不知道即使是切尔诺贝利事故后，同一个核电站的其他反应堆还继续运行了
十几年直到2000年才退役关闭？那些工人傻逼了发生事故后还在同一个电厂干
十几年。你说说切尔诺贝利到底死了多少人，对西欧造成了多大的影响，对美国
造成了多大的影响？对中国美国的影响能说出来吗？
你有时间在这儿满世界宣扬末日论不如自己去看国际原子能机构的官方网页
补充点科普知识：
http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/features/chernobyl-15/cherno-faq
看看这段：
12. How does Chernobyl’s effect measure up to the atomic bombs dropped on H
iroshima and Nagasaki?
Chernobyl DrawingThe acc... 阅读全帖 |
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w**********l
发帖数: 8501 | 22 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: babywhenugon (若林), 信区: Military
标 题: 纽约时报：50名核电站工人是日本最后的希望
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 15 22:12:55 2011, 美东)
Last Defense at Troubled Reactors: 50 Japanese Workers
By KEITH BRADSHER and HIROKO TABUCHI
A small crew of technicians, braving radiation and fire, became the only
people remaining at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station on Tuesday
— and perhaps Japan’s last chance of preventing a broader nuclear
catastrophe.
They crawl through labyrinths of equipment in... 阅读全帖 |
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m**l
发帖数: 11854 | 23 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: mrvl (let freedom ring, let freedom win), 信区: Military
标 题: 日本承认福岛核泄数量可能最终超过尔诺贝利（切）
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 12 02:24:44 2011, 美东)
日本称现在已经泄了尔诺贝利的10%了，还在源源不断地泄
"It is quite different from Chernobyl," said Mr. Nishiyama. "First, the
amount of released radiation is about a tenth of Chernobyl," he said, adding
that while there were 29 deaths resulting from short-term exposure to high
doses of radiation at Chernobyl, there were no such deaths at Fukushima.
."At Chernobyl... 阅读全帖 |
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J********i
发帖数: 50662 | 24 http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-03-17/japan-nuclear-disas
黑幕很多，事情大条了
By Jason Clenfield
March 18 (Bloomberg) -- The unfolding disaster at the Fukushima nuclear
plant follows decades of falsified safety reports, fatal accidents and
underestimated earthquake risk in Japan’s atomic power industry.
The destruction caused by last week’s 9.0 earthquake and tsunami comes less
than four years after a 6.8 quake shut the world’s biggest atomic plant,
also run by Tokyo Electric Power Co. In 2002 and ... 阅读全帖 |
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 25 http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/us-japan-quake-idUSTR
By Taiga Uranaka and Ki Joon Kwon
FUKUSHIMA, Japan | Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:01am EDT
(Reuters) - Japan faced potential catastrophe on Tuesday after a quake-
crippled nuclear power plant exploded and sent low levels of radiation
floating toward Tokyo, prompting some people to flee the capital and others
to stock up on essential supplies.
Prime Minister Naoto Kan urged people within 30 km (18 miles) of the
facility north of Tokyo to remai... 阅读全帖 |
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f****n
发帖数: 4615 | 26 4987 fasten Apr 8．Re: My way of getting fun
4988 chernobyl Apr 8．Re: My way of getting fun
4989 chernobyl Apr 8．Re: My way of getting fun
4990 fasten Apr 8．Re: My way of getting fun
4991 Aliu Apr 8．Re: My way of getting fun
>4992 chernobyl Apr 8．Re: My way of getting fun
4993 Aliu Apr 8．Re: My way of getting fun
4994 chernobyl Apr 8．Re: My way of getting fun
4995 fasten Apr 8．Re: My way of getting fun
4996 Aliu Ap |
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l**a
发帖数: 6415 | 27 删掉一些了。
链接如下
plainenglishnuclear.blogspot.com
.......
1. I live on the West Coast. Am I in danger?
No. Absolutely not.
You won’t even notice except that everyone will keep talking about it for
ages, and it’ll take us even longer to get off coal and oil and natural gas
because people will be afraid of nuclear power again. Go outside, get some
sunshine (or rain, depending), be grateful for the fact that your city isn
’t completely destroyed in an earthquake or a tsunami, hug your loved ones... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******g
发帖数: 556 | 28 Chernobyl是石墨堆，更原始，而且本身设计有致命缺陷。其实从chernobyl之后，没有
真正意义上因为核电站事故导致核泄漏影响环境的。
Chernobyl 和 TMI 出事的时候您可以说不该用压水堆。 |
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d*****g
发帖数: 1616 | 29 http://www.radscihealth.org/rsh/Docs/UN-Chernobyl/BateReUNDPChe
Chernobyl's Real Victims...
By Dr. Roger Bate 01/24/2002
The UN Development Programme and Unicef have finally admitted in a new
report what many scientists and policy wonks have known for years. Chernobyl
killed thousands -- not from radiation, but from policy based on radiophobic
hysteria. (Editor's note: The two organizations have yet to make the report
available on their websites.)
“Perhaps saddest of all is that as many as 200,0... 阅读全帖 |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 30 I have tried my best, but still can not find anything in English that
distinguishes boom pumps made by Putzmeister AND Sany. In other words, the
two brands are not mentioned in the same Fukushima report, except one (see (
3) below). Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) has websites in Japanese or
English, neither of which mentions pumps at all (reportedly TEPCO Digest on
Mar 22 did mention a pump without mentioning the brand (title: "Concrete
Pump Car completed watering Unit 4 spent fuel pool (20:30p... 阅读全帖 |
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p*r
发帖数: 5516 | 31 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12723092 （附图）
The word "meltdown" goes to the heart of the big nuclear question - is
nuclear power safe?
The term is associated in the public mind with the two most notorious
accidents in recent memory - Three Mile Island, in the US, in 1979, and
Chernobyl, in Ukraine, seven years later.
You can think of the core of a Boiling Water Reactor (BWR), such as the ones
at Fukushima Daiichi, as a massive version of the electrical element you
may have in your kettle.
It s... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****g
发帖数: 1616 | 32 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: dahuang (春风又绿江南岸), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 切尔诺贝利核事故死了多少人？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 14 12:06:47 2011, 美东)
http://www.radscihealth.org/rsh/Docs/UN-Chernobyl/BateReUNDPChe
Chernobyl's Real Victims...
By Dr. Roger Bate 01/24/2002
The UN Development Programme and Unicef have finally admitted in a new
report what many scientists and policy wonks have known for years. Chernobyl
killed thousands -- not from radiation, but from policy based on radiophobic
hysteria. (Editor's n... 阅读全帖 |
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y***n
发帖数: 6764 | 33 问题是现在日本政府在遮遮掩掩得不说实话。
你举的Chernobyl的例子很好，但是有一点你要知道，当年冷战时期，Chernobyl的严重
性是被西方国家有所夸大的。这次日本的核事故，是被所有媒体压着的。
也就是说，到底是这次日本的核危害厉害，还是上次的Chernobyl的核危害厉害，现在
没人知道。 |
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h****r
发帖数: 2056 | 34 Japan nuclear alert at Fukushima - Q&A
15 March 11 12:19 GMT
There have been two explosions at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant
in Japan, following Friday's earthquake and tsunami, and a third reactor is
reportedly at risk of fuel-rod meltdown.
How great a danger do these problems pose for people in Japan and further
afield?
Has there been a leakage of radioactive material?
Yes. Local government officials in Fukushima say 190 people have been
exposed to some radiation. An American warsh... 阅读全帖 |
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c***y
发帖数: 114 | 35 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
chernobyl (小水葱 playboy Mickey, 生活FASHION) 于 (Wed Sep 14 01:53:29 2005) 提到:
twisted chasse,右脚望左踏的不够，转身可能太快or what,总觉得不舒展，
别扭
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chernobyl (小水葱 playboy Mickey, 生活FASHION) 于 (Wed Sep 14 01:53:41 2005) 提到:
对了，可能是我自己的问题
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chernobyl (小水葱 playboy Mickey, 生活FASHION) 于 (Wed Sep 14 13:02:11 2005) 提到:
当然是“我”的问题了，还能是编这个动作的人的问题? 赫赫.
let's imagine you are doing that after a hockey |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 36 I have tried my best, but still can not find anything in English that
distinguishes boom pumps made by Putzmeister AND Sany. In other words, the
two brands are not mentioned in the same Fukushima report, except one (see (
3) below). Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) has websites in Japanese or
English, neither of which mentions pumps at all (reportedly TEPCO Digest on
Mar 22 did mention a pump without mentioning the brand (title: "Concrete
Pump Car completed watering Unit 4 spent fuel pool (20:30p... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 37 再贴几个stronger认为“有关”三藩话题的保存了近两个月的帖子：
发信人: chernobyl (小水葱 golden playboy,金童,新刷了绿漆), 信区:
SanFrancisco
标 题: 我来啦
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jan 3 22:42:13 2010, 美东)
饭毕，开毛
发信人: chernobyl (小水葱 golden playboy,金童,新刷了绿漆), 信区:
SanFrancisco
标 题: 我来袅~~~
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jan 3 13:45:06 2010, 美东)
来袅~~
发信人: chernobyl (小水葱 golden playboy,金童,新刷了绿漆), 信区:
SanFrancisco
标 题: 我来袅~~~
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jan 2 13:52:39 2010, 美东)
新年新气象
去哪里吃早饭？？ |
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d*****g
发帖数: 1616 | 38 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article56352
September 7, 2005
Chernobyl fallout not as bad as first feared
By Bronwen Maddox
ONLY 56 people have so far died directly as a result of the explosion at
Chernobyl in 1986, including 9 children with thyroid cancer. In the end,
perhaps up to 4,000 people will die from radiation-caused illness.
Those figures are much lower than many would guess, if they were asked.
After the accident, some predicted that tens of thousands would die. B... 阅读全帖 |
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x*********g
发帖数: 11508 | 39 Bullzi We are in the downriver area of Detroit, Michigan. We did not
feel any effect of the earthquake, but we feel relieved in knowing the
Japanese are good at working with the fallout of nuclear issues, since they
have firsthand knowledge of dealing with nuclear fallout since August of
1945.
5 hours ago | Like (1) | Report abuse
我们在底律特的下游，这地震我们没感到有什么影响，但我们觉得很放心，知道日
本人对处理核发射问题很有经验，在1945年8月后，他们对处理这个非常有实操经验。
luisjr Like in Chernobyl, the Russians wouldnt tell what was going on,
only after many da... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********r
发帖数: 468 | 40 Chernobyl那次那么严重是因为直接炉子炸掉了，而且没有container的保护，所有放射
性物质直接射到天上了。这次有container，最多只是露点，除非全炸了，不会有
chernobyl那么严重。 |
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s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 41 人命越来越值钱，同样的chernobyl现在发生在日本影响会比当年chernobyl
大一千倍。
当时几百人上去救火，几十架直升机投水泥，上万人挖洞，50万人clean up.
现在会有几个人去干？民主国家能让多少人冒生命危险？
最后宁肯弄一个100 km无人区。 |
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s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 42 你不要搞笑了，是不是刚去chernobyl回来？
你看下面的图，chernobyl到kiev是100公里，
看往东北200-300km还有多大污染。
现代民主国家，有这么高的放射，上千倍background radiation，
你说你正常过日子？ |
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s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 43 事故等级啊。就像死几个人是特大交通事故，几个是重大。
chernobyl大泄漏是7级。
三哩岛melt down毁堆轻微泄漏是5级。
现在日本6级。马上就要7级了。而且很可能比chernobyl还厉害。 |
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z******i
发帖数: 986 | 44 Underground Nuclear Explosion At Crippled Japan Atomic Plant
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1729.htm
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/fukushima.html
An ominous edict issued from the Office of the President of Russia today to
all Ministries of the Russian Government ordering that all “past, present
and future” information relating to Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear
disaster now be rated at the highest classification level “Of Special
Importance” states that this condition is “immediat... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****g
发帖数: 1616 | 45 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: dahuang (春风又绿江南岸), 信区: Military
标 题: 切尔诺贝利核事故死了多少人？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 14 11:47:10 2011, 美东)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article56352
September 7, 2005
Chernobyl fallout not as bad as first feared
By Bronwen Maddox
ONLY 56 people have so far died directly as a result of the explosion at
Chernobyl in 1986, including 9 children with thyroid cancer. In the end,
perhaps up to 4,000 people will die from radiation-caused illness.
Those figures... 阅读全帖 |
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c*********k
发帖数: 4747 | 46 不冷却下来,装什么都没治.
你得考考古了.可以看看chernobyl的纪录片,the battle of chernobyl.
crack
pumping |
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a********k
发帖数: 2273 | 47 乌克兰在chernobyl以后就没新建核电站了吧，是不是chernobyl一场事故把全球几十年
核电节约的能源，资金，环保全陪进去了？不知道有没有人计算过这个问题 |
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s********n
发帖数: 1962 | 48 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
chernobyl (小水葱 playboy Mickey,锻炼身体和工作) 于 (Tue Oct 26 01:13:34 2004) 提到:
中国的专利，如何弄到美国来，申请专利，然后申请贷款开公司呢？
thanks.
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he (戴小帽的猪^^天天胡说八道) 于 (Tue Oct 26 10:23:56 2004) 提到:
先开公司，然后再慢慢折腾吧。
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chernobyl (小水葱 playboy Mickey,锻炼身体和工作) 于 (Tue Oct 26 13:06:47 2004) 提到:
do you know how ya?
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menglou (dreamstone) 于 (Tue Oct 26 20:39:18 2004) |
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m****a
发帖数: 6567 | 49 我知道啊，chernobyl只有一个出事，福岛全都出事了。不过福岛有一个好处就是他没
有把辐射全给掀
到大气层中（专业名词忘了），所以主要毒害的是日本人民。但是我不知道chernobyl
搞了多长时间。
你们先讨论，我去wiki一下回来。
你说冷战，我最近经常跟老公说，他娘的要是中国跟日本一样，早被骂死了！美军直接
来“接管”了！ |
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