w****m
发帖数: 5 | 1 我觉得他的观众应该明白是怎么回事。他作为一个Comedian，不是一个News Anchor，
怎么道歉弹性会比较大。中规中矩就失去了他Comedian的本性。 |
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w****m
发帖数: 5 | 2 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: wfengm (大明), 信区: Military
标 题: 作为一个Comedian, 我觉得Jimmy Kimmel的道歉算是足够诚恳
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 29 22:43:45 2013, 美东)
他的措辞虽然包含American humor，但他用了"Apologize"并且态度也比较诚恳。建议
大家多看看Daily Show，Colbert Report等等，了解一下美国Comedian的文化。John
Stewart做错事情的时候也有类似的道歉。
我觉得到目前为止，针对Jimmy Kimmel本人的抗议已经取得了不错的效果，过分极端的
目标只会让我们失去支持。如果说还有让我觉得不满的话，那个show的producer很有问
题，未来的抗争我们应该质疑为什么ABC没有把包含genocide的言论给剪掉，让电视台
作出更加正式的道歉（面向整个Chinese Community，而不是个人）。
BTW，我非常荣幸的参加了纽约的protest，深深感到建立我们自己的政治团体的迫切性
。我们应该... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 18037 | 3 A friend invited me to her convocation. A few comedians will be there... I
think now on the list are Ellen DeGeneres, Jerry Seinfeld and Tina Fey.
Jerry's kid is at her school as well, and the other two are guests. Vera
Wang will attend, too, since her daughter is also graduating but of course
Vera is not a comedian.
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w****m
发帖数: 5 | 4 他的措辞虽然包含American humor，但他用了"Apologize"并且态度也比较诚恳。建议
大家多看看Daily Show，Colbert Report等等，了解一下美国Comedian的文化。John
Stewart做错事情的时候也有类似的道歉。
我觉得到目前为止，针对Jimmy Kimmel本人的抗议已经取得了不错的效果，过分极端的
目标只会让我们失去支持。如果说还有让我觉得不满的话，那个show的producer很有问
题，未来的抗争我们应该质疑为什么ABC没有把包含genocide的言论给剪掉，让电视台
作出更加正式的道歉（面向整个Chinese Community，而不是个人）。
BTW，我非常荣幸的参加了纽约的protest，深深感到建立我们自己的政治团体的迫切性
。我们应该用当地的游戏规则去参与政治，事不关己的态度只会让我们自己被越来越边
缘化。 |
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发帖数: 22772 | 8 美国政治正确的丑恶正在于此
有没有comedians敢拿某族裔抢劫杀人吸毒滥交开玩笑，哪怕是真的？ |
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发帖数: 29846 | 9 August 6, 2013 by Warner Todd Huston
Many on the far left continue to claim that America needs to have “a
discussion” on race–even though we’ve been talking about it since roughly
1787. But one black comedian, W. Kamau Bell, apparently doesn’t want to
have that discussion. He says all whites are racist, that is that, and they
shouldn’t be allowed to talk about what’s racist and what isn’t.
The extremist host of FX’s Totally Biased with W. Kamau Bell, told the
media that white people should not... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 24893 | 11 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: StephenKing (金博士), 信区: Military
标 题: 哥我昨晚上去一家酒吧做stand up comedian了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 9 00:12:14 2015, 美东)
2个小时
50美元，啤酒随便喝 |
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S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 12 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: StephenKing (金博士), 信区: Military
标 题: 哥我昨晚上去一家酒吧做stand up comedian了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 9 00:12:14 2015, 美东)
2个小时
50美元，啤酒随便喝 |
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发帖数: 19743 | 13 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: aaaty (阿提 - Hardcore Flash Hater), 信区: USANews
标 题: 既然谈到亚裔standup comedian。。。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 22 14:30:58 2010, 美东)
我刚才在Saob的主贴里谈到The Hangover里的亚裔男正面全裸
展现其jj小的都看不见。
这个亚裔男演员叫做Ken Jeong，本是医生。但因为一直以来对演艺的爱好，在做医生
的时候也抽时间去做standup comedia。
他在一个采访里说：
"I remember when I did stand-up initially, I never joked about being in med
school because I didn’t want to rely on that. I felt like I had too much
dignity as a comic to do cheesy medical jokes. Instead, I did Asian s |
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发帖数: 3760 | 14 前些天在ellen degeneres的bigger longer wider show上看见
一个老中做standup comedian, 觉得挺不错的。
youtube上找到了他在david letterman上的表演，
笑话差不多，有细微区别，分享一下 |
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发帖数: 24893 | 15 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: StephenKing (金博士), 信区: Military
标 题: 哥我昨晚上去一家酒吧做stand up comedian了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 9 00:12:14 2015, 美东)
2个小时
50美元，啤酒随便喝 |
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发帖数: 43926 | 17 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: verdelite (石头), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 美国有种三句半的standup comedian是叫什么？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Sep 1 03:00:37 2017, 美东)
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发帖数: 11571 | 19 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
rockme (flyinggame) 于 (Thu May 26 18:36:07 2011, 美东) 提到:
it depends on whether this is intentional. if yes, people should go after
him. if not, this is probably enough.
逼迫学校
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chatman (leo) 于 (Thu May 26 23:53:09 2011, 美东) 提到:
这个lab rule在他主页上贴了两年半，他道歉信里说从不知道，你说可能吗？
你看他主页总共才几个链接。
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chatman (leo) 于 (Fri May 27 00:03:54 2011, 美东) 提到:
错不至死，此话不假。但如果一个华人教授写了类似的话侮辱了白人或黑人，你... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 257 | 20 Here is what I think:
1. 他的lab rule第4条 "4. Don’t believe anything the Chinaman says." 从字面
上来理解，是说不要相信那个comedian
或者show. "The Chinaman" 从语法上很清楚地是指那个stand-up comedian和那个
comedian在Las Vegas的show。这
个与"chinaman"是有本质区别的，加不加The,是不是大写C决定了从字面上来看这是两
种完全不同的意思。(我看
到还有说是指签语饼。）
2. 这个UCSD的教授是故意这么写，从语法上没问题，而本意是要侮辱，歧视华人吗？
如果没有其他的事实，如
何能草率假设那是他的目的呢？那个Lab rule中其他条都是开玩笑的。这第4条为什么
不会是他开这个
comedian/show的玩笑呢，或者是说不要相信签语饼里的话。
3. 如果说任何人不能把"The Chinaman"放在网页上，我不敢苟同。如何才能指代这个
comedian/show呢？网上有关
这个comedian和show的网页不在少数。是不是更应该... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 400 | 21 这位语法专家应该给 UCSD 的校长, 院长还有那个大教授上上英语语法课. 然后让他们
把所有的相关"道歉"都拆掉.
这些美国人真是的, 英文语法差得一塌糊涂, 没看懂就急急忙忙道歉.
下次注意了, 道歉之前先质询一下龙卷风云,让他给你们来个英文版的说文解字.
Here is what I think:
1. 他的lab rule第4条 "4. Don’t believe anything the Chinaman says." 从字面
上来理解，是说不要相信那个comedian
或者show. "The Chinaman" 从语法上很清楚地是指那个stand-up comedian和那个
comedian在Las Vegas的show。这
个与"chinaman"是有本质区别的，加不加The,是不是大写C决定了从字面上来看这是两
种完全不同的意思。(我看
到还有说是指签语饼。）
2. 这个UCSD的教授是故意这么写，从语法上没问题，而本意是要侮辱，歧视华人吗？
如果没有其他的事实，如
何能草率假设那是他的目的呢？那个Lab rule中其他条都是开玩笑的。这第4条为什么
不会是他开这... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2013 | 22 1、鼓励鼓励。走黄西和woody allen路数。多数笑话属于有另外一层意思所以好笑的。
经典intellectual笑话，这个路数是非常好的。
2、稍微有点前面说的下三路问题，主要是开场 mother F******和son of B以及最后鸡
鸭老鼠try to have baby，厕所盖子，女性illogical这些话题。其实凡是当comedian
的，笑话多少要有些下三路。但是华人当comedian的不多，每一个都是华人在老外面前
的脸面，可能对你期望很高吧。真心希望你成为woody allen和黄西那样的特classy的
comedian。
3、phd笑话，work station笑话，浙江大学考试笑话，写paper笑话，coming soon，车
库冷笑话很棒
4、那个三文治的笑话你可以延展成不解风情，就是女生爱慕你，结果你误解成她嫉妒
你。
5、comedians的taboo：种族歧视、性别歧视、堕胎、乱伦、跨物种性（鸡鸭，老鼠的
笑话不能再重复了，因为对于美国很多教徒来说是不可接受的）。你最后说girls are
illogical，men have to make ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1709 | 23 Used to dramatic theatrics even if many of them sounded dead serious, dozens
of celebs vowed over the last few months to depart the US if Donald Trump
won the White House, saying they’d buy a one way ticket to everywhere from
Canada to Jupiter. And perhaps some of them planned on carrying through on
their threat: overnight Canada’s immigration website crashed from heavy
traffic after it became clear that Trump would win.
The question, however, now is how many of these provocateurs will be true t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 12955 | 24
Wrong. Unless the baker sells a generic type of cake, he would have to put
a lot of customization effort into creating this cake. This customization
effort should have been exempt from the generic anti-discrimination
protection, since essentially every cake is a unique creation.
Forcing this baker to make such a cake is no different than say, forcing a
comedian to tell fat jokes in his routines because some of his audience
liked that kind of comedy. If someone asked this comedian to perform ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 16484 | 25 1. Jon Stewart
Who? Political satirist.
Where would he move? Another planet.
"I would consider getting in a rocket and going to another planet, because
clearly this planet's gone bonkers," he told reporters.
2. Chelsea Handler
Who? Comedian.
Where would she move? Spain.
"I did buy a house in another country just in case, so all of these people
that threaten to leave the country and then don't, I will leave the country,
" she said on Live with Kelly and Michael.
(Weirdly, she called Trump charmin... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 19713 | 26 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: ye88 (ye88), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 转一个American Born Chinese写的关于Jimmy kimmel 事件的看法
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Nov 3 23:44:40 2013, 美东)
今天一个朋友转过来的， 很长的英文， 不知道大家有没有兴趣看看。
Jimmy Kimmel - kill everyone in China
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All of Jimmy Kimmel’s lines transcribed from the video by me
“kill everyone in China? okay that’s an interesting idea…again.”
“you’re saying build a wall in China? a huge big great kind of a wall?”... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6130 | 27 You are being overly sensitive. He's a comedian. Many comedians make fun of
themsleves - fan comedians tell fat jokes; black comedians tell black jokes.
没必要上升到这个层次.
make
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发帖数: 5613 | 28 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
pker (骂客.咱刻薄) 于 (Tue Oct 22 16:25:32 2013, 美东) 提到:
之前总是奔驰宝马各买一部，
开锁车门的时候也不会搞错。。。
后来觉得奔驰的质量真的是。。。。尼玛坑爹。。
所以就只买宝马了。。
就怕搞不清楚，所以其中一部还特意加了sport package，
这样钥匙上就有个红线。
结果还是经常搞错。。
此帖属于针对屌丝的BSO贴，
如果有那个穷逼看了不爽，那你有本事来打我啊，
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pooh91125 (从肥膘中出窈窕，于肚腩处显细腰) 于 (Tue Oct 22 17:38:11 2013, 美东) 提到:
本来挺好一贴，最后用一句话立马露馅了。。。
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torrance (torrance) 于 (Tue Oct 22 18:22:54 2013, 美东) 提到:
pker本来就是高富帅... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 622 | 29 非常喜欢这篇abc的大作。
留个copy，多看几遍。
今天一个朋友转过来的， 很长的英文， 不知道大家有没有兴趣看看。
Jimmy Kimmel - kill everyone in China
------------------------------------------------------------------------
All of Jimmy Kimmel’s lines transcribed from the video by me
“kill everyone in China? okay that’s an interesting idea…again.”
“you’re saying build a wall in China? a huge big great kind of a wall?”
“that will never happen”
“when you owe someone money, should you pay them back”
“but then they won’t lend you money anymore”
“shoul... 阅读全帖 |
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q******3
发帖数: 622 | 30 非常喜欢这篇abc的大作。
留个copy，多看几遍。
今天一个朋友转过来的， 很长的英文， 不知道大家有没有兴趣看看。
Jimmy Kimmel - kill everyone in China
------------------------------------------------------------------------
All of Jimmy Kimmel’s lines transcribed from the video by me
“kill everyone in China? okay that’s an interesting idea…again.”
“you’re saying build a wall in China? a huge big great kind of a wall?”
“that will never happen”
“when you owe someone money, should you pay them back”
“but then they won’t lend you money anymore”
“shoul... 阅读全帖 |
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q******3
发帖数: 622 | 31 非常喜欢这篇abc的大作。
留个copy，多看几遍。
今天一个朋友转过来的， 很长的英文， 不知道大家有没有兴趣看看。
Jimmy Kimmel - kill everyone in China
------------------------------------------------------------------------
All of Jimmy Kimmel’s lines transcribed from the video by me
“kill everyone in China? okay that’s an interesting idea…again.”
“you’re saying build a wall in China? a huge big great kind of a wall?”
“that will never happen”
“when you owe someone money, should you pay them back”
“but then they won’t lend you money anymore”
“shoul... 阅读全帖 |
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y**8
发帖数: 3 | 32 今天一个朋友转过来的， 很长的英文， 不知道大家有没有兴趣看看。
Jimmy Kimmel - kill everyone in China
------------------------------------------------------------------------
All of Jimmy Kimmel’s lines transcribed from the video by me
“kill everyone in China? okay that’s an interesting idea…again.”
“you’re saying build a wall in China? a huge big great kind of a wall?”
“that will never happen”
“when you owe someone money, should you pay them back”
“but then they won’t lend you money anymore”
“should this country be forced to... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2812 | 33 ‘Who’s on First?’ Finds a Home in Chinese Clubs
By BENJAMIN HAAS
BEIJING — Guo Degang, wearing sunglasses at night, strutted into the club
followed by an entourage of sharply dressed men and was shown to an elegant
private dining room in the back. He sat down and held court as friends from
out of town presented him with gifts of liquor, rare mushrooms and artwork.
It could have been a scene out of a Chinese version of “The Godfather,”
but Mr. Guo is more Ricky Gervais than Don Corleone.
He is a ... 阅读全帖 |
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e*u
发帖数: 10016 | 34 Historical
The Empress Josephine – Wife of Napoleon. Ancestry unconfirmed.
Alexandre Dumas – French novelist, author of The Three Musketeers and
The Count of Monte Cristo
Alexander Pushkin – The great Russian novelist.
Contemporary
Christina Aguilera, American singer
Jessica Alba, American actress
John Amaechi, English basketball player
Amerie, American singer
Leila Arcieri, American model/actress
Fred Armisted, American comedian and SNL castmember.
Joan B... 阅读全帖 |
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o*****D
发帖数: 1563 | 35 Overseas Chinese communities and domestic Chinese citizens alike have
rallied together against US comedian Jimmy Kimmel and television network ABC
for a late night talk show skit that suggested Americans “kill everyone in
China”.
The skit, originally aired on the “Kid’s Table” segment of Kimmel’s talk
show on October 16, instantly drew ire from the Chinese community, who
began a White House petition calling for a formal apology.
The petition called the skit “extremely distasteful and … the same
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发帖数: 38600 | 37 THE 101 ALLEGED VICTIMS OF THE HACK
AJ Michalka, American actress, singer-songwriter, and musician
Alyson 'Aly' Michalka, AJ's sister, also an American actress
Allegra Carpenter, actress, best known for The Fault In Our Stars
Abigail Spencer, American actress
Alana Blanchard, American professional surfer and bikini model
Alexa Jane, model
Angelina McCoy, actress, best known for Enchanted
Anna O'Neill
Ashley Blankenship, actress, appeared in The Wolf Of Wall Street
Aubrey Plaza, American actress ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2555 | 38 (CNN)"Saturday Night Live" has fired one of its most recent hires, Shane
Gillis, just days after videos of comedian making bigoted comments came to
light.
"After talking with Shane Gillis, we have decided that he will not be
joining 'SNL,'" an 'SNL' spokesperson on behalf of Lorne Michaels said in a
statement to CNN. "We want 'SNL' to have a variety of voices and points of
view within the show, and we hired Shane on the strength of his talent as
comedian and his impressive audition for 'SNL.' We... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2018 | 39 网友评论:
"Frankin was a second rate comic before becoming the laughing stock of the
Senate."
"Al Franken thinks he is a talented comedian and an effective Senator when
he is in fact neither."
"Al was worthless as a comedian on SNL and even more worthless as a
Congressman!"
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发帖数: 257 | 40 实话实说，我不知道你这些问题跟前面讨论的事情关联在什么地方。我是很认真地整理
我的思路的。可是我感觉
有些人脑袋一热，屁股一拍，就言辞凿凿了。我还得花时间来回复。前面有的人还要泼
妇骂街，还要使出阿Q的
精神胜利法，或者让我别对UCSD教授温情款款，或是让我别凑到他的贴子上去，要么让
我接着过我的日子，同
时又好意地劝告我改改过日子的方法。种种语无伦次。我实在不敢低估这些位的思维能
力，逻辑水平，语言组
织，只能是觉得他们态度太不严肃。因此我觉得我没有必要再浪费时间。下面我对你的
问题逐一答复，对类似不
够严肃的问题不再回答。
⒈ "the Chinaman" 是不是会指这个comedian,居然取决于这个comedian的知名度。那
你说到底指什么？还要说得更
清楚吗？It can never mean "Chinese".你要说我是语法分析大师，你要说这个教授肯
定是意指中国人，都毫无关
系，只要有the并且C大写，it cannot mean Chinese.
至于说这个comedian三流恶俗，这个更是三竿子打不着了。他是不是三流我不知道，我
没看过。不过，你的逻辑
似乎是，如... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2322 | 41 我phd defense的时候，跟committee的老师开了个玩笑，一个committee member(和我
很熟）当场对我说
you should be a comedian
所以我teaching的时候是把自己当成一个comedian来看的
做comedian 学生笑的话是最rewarding的时刻了
我有时候因为自己英语不行 说错了话 哄堂大笑的时候 感觉师生都很开心距离也很近
希望这个心态对你有帮助 |
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发帖数: 3279 | 42 "comedy is also a show biz, it does have a lot of appearance judgment
involved"?
give me a break. have you seen any comedians lately? as a comedian, the ugly
, the weird looking and fatties are always at advantages. Joe is probably at
the handsome end, for a comedian.
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I******a
发帖数: 3812 | 43 他这种低级的卖笑行为，强化了米国某些垃圾们眼里对于中国人的错误认知.对我等当
然有害。
假如一个墨裔的comedian说他们家是很有代表性的毒贩子又是偷渡的，或者一个黑人的
comedian说他妈是个婊子他爸是杀人犯这是众所周知的，抑或一个白人的comedian说他
们白人是抢劫专业户，很难想象他们那个族裔不会有人出来骂他给自己的形象抹黑或者
干脆就说他本人并不代表本族裔。 |
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d********1
发帖数: 3828 | 44 随便找了一个asian的standup comedian。比黄西不知道强哪去了。
黄西作为一个中国长大的phd能讲个笑话适当支持可以，但是捧得太高就是对那些比他
强得多的comedian不公平了。其实美国人看黄西就跟看william huang一样，看个新鲜
而已。那些比他强的comedian反倒没有这种新鲜感。 |
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t*****o
发帖数: 81 | 45 OK. I thought MDW is the acronym for Mass Destruction Weapons, which is more
commonly known as Weapons of Mass Destruction. My bad on this.
Factual news is if there is no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to 9/11, then
you can't just speculate he was aiding al-Qaeda.
Factual news is if Obama has released his long form birth certificate to
prove he was born in Hawaii, then all the birthers need to stop crying foul.
Factual news if you say abortion is well over 90 percent of what Planned
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