b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 1 The more I see and hear from from Rand the more I like. |
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发帖数: 38600 | 2 Paul is bringing attention to the fact that the President and Holder think
it’s perfectly OK to kill Americans, without due process, in this country.
Bang, you’re dead. So sorry, carry on. |
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 3 Hehe, he is a special kind of Republican. Pretty good for China. |
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c******h
发帖数: 4573 | 5 我擦，我觉得去让他休息东拉西扯的共和党参议员提问的时候都自己憋着才能不笑。。
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 6 But Paul started to show signs of fading around 5:20 p.m., when he appeared
to whisper to someone, "Can you you get me some candy?" A few minutes later,
he admitted that the end was in sight.
"I'm already getting tired, I don't know how long I'll be able to do this,"
he said.
He added: "This will be a blip in his nomination process. But I hope people
will see it as an argument for how important our rights are."
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/rand-paul-filibusters-john-brennan-2013-3#i... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 7 必须讲.要不然对方就会要求讲话,一但你允许对方讲了,你就结束filibuster了. |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 8 paul就是在talking filibuster. |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 9 最长是24小时18分,filibuster civil rights act. 1957年. |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 10 nope.如果paul走了,filibuster就结束了.民主党就可以要求休会了. |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 11 反正现在虽然lee在讲,但是算paul filibuster. |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 12 另外60个参议员可以强制结束filibuster.所以现在民主党给paul面子,让他讲.明天就
用60票,把他话筒给掐了. |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 13 不能.Though other Senators can take the podium to ask questions, Paul is not
allowed to leave the floor during the filibuster. |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 14 paul filibuster原因就是巴马不排除无人机在美国杀美国人的可能性.他并不反对cia
的人. |
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发帖数: 17532 | 17 领导开始发言，估计要结束了，或者这哥们挺到半夜？ |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 18 不可以.一坐下,filibuster就结束了.所以只能转圈. |
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c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 19 Current one is not even close...
Strom Thurmond — 24 hours, 18 minutes: At the time, the South Carolina
senator was a Democrat, who was railing against the Civil Rights Act of 1957
. To fill the time, Thurmond read the election laws of all 48 states that
were then part of the union.
Alfonse D'Amato — 23 hours, 30 minutes: In 1986, the New York Republican
once known as "Senator Pothole" took to the floor to protest an amendment to
a defense bill that would have blocked funding for a jet fighter b... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 20 他刚才接受CNN记者说的,最后就是膀胱憋不住了,在快13个小时时候,结束filibuster.
他说自己喝了很少的水,没敢喝任何带咖啡因的东西. |
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发帖数: 38600 | 21 Sen. Rand Paul declared "victory" Thursday after Attorney General Eric
Holder assured him that the president cannot use a drone to kill a non-
combatant American on U.S. soil -- an assurance Paul had sought during his
13-hour filibuster the day before. |
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l**********r
发帖数: 4612 | 22 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: theislander3 (Peace de Wars), 信区: USANews
标 题: 路易斯安那黑人州议员抛弃民主党加入GOP
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jun 18 21:55:06 2013, 美东)
Louisiana State Senator Elbert Gullory — formerly a Democra — made a
surprising and enthusiastic announcement. The African-American Senator is
walking away from the Democrats to join the GOP. After making the
announcement, Sen. Gullory released this video explaining his unique
decision.
“I’m Elbert Lee Guillory, the senator for the 24th district right he... 阅读全帖 |
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b****l
发帖数: 23606 | 23 曹。潜水闭关中，但还是要上来对该议员致以礼敬。
这才是有见识的非洲裔。民主党搞的那套，是害了黑人。
in
black
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voting
the
us.
filibustered
in
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sacrificed
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makers
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w****y
发帖数: 2952 | 24 朝野协商是国会组织法规定的，就像美国的filibuster一样，不是你想表决就表决的。
一个法案，任何一个党团不同意，都要冷冻四个月进行朝野协商。把王换了，也还是一
样。 |
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d****n
发帖数: 10034 | 25 看来不可避免了。
博纳非常坚决。
Ted Cruz要filibuster |
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发帖数: 29576 | 26 Ted现在是两党第一勇。
Ted Cruz ends Senate speech against Obamacare after more than 21 hours
WASHINGTON -- His hand forced by Senate rules, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) ended
a marathon speech Wednesday in opposition to the Affordable Care Act after
holding the floor for more than 21 hours.
Cruz took the floor at 2:41 p.m. EDT on Tuesday vowing to speak “until I am
no longer able to stand.” He did so throughout the night, with occasional
assistance from colleagues, and into the morning. But in the end it was ... 阅读全帖 |
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C*******f
发帖数: 13152 | 27 没仔细看，问下，为啥Criz这个是fake filibuster
ended
after
am
occasional
not |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 28 他就是个joke.一夏天的到共和党众议员的选区里让attach defund obamacare和
spending bills.折腾了一夏天.结果共和党众议员们扛不住了,投票支持了.结果他上周
4说,参议院挡不住.当时周五,众议员都把他骂死了.丫扛不住了,就搞了个21小时的演讲
.结果自己居然投票支持结束filibuster. |
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发帖数: 61690 | 29 41票就可以filibuster了.cruz就是个joke,为了自己个人的野心.本来obamacare自己就
要完蛋了.共和党应该拿着爆米花,欣赏民主党内斗.结果他和lee两个二活,愣变成了民
主党拿着爆米花,看共和党内斗.气的一个共和党前议员说这些人就是动物园的monkeys. |
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发帖数: 29576 | 30
monkeys.
filibuster没用，通不过预算下礼拜政府关门，Cruz自己站着buster了21小时，找不到
41个R跟着有什么办法。
obamacare不会自己完蛋， 这么大的政府项目。很多费用提前几年都收了，应该能支持
几年。问题在于几年后费用爆炸。 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 31 全是挑战巴马的.所以结果都能猜到.就是empty promise.巴马反正没选举了,他不care
了.这里面最靠铺的反而是这个推迟一年实行obamacare.
比如那个defund关于金融管制的部门.这是巴马的重大立法成果.年初,民主党不惜改
filibuster rule,逼得共和党投票通过了这个部门的领导.
再比如那个关于coal regulation,这个是巴马在国会不能通过carbon tax条件下的,
exacuate fix,巴马让步的可能就是0. |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 32 不可以。60个参议员可以cut debate.另外ted cruz上次20小时演讲不是filibuster.是
他和harry reid谈的deal,harry reid让他扯20小时的淡。 |
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发帖数: 33185 | 33 Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default
[Breaking news update 12:20 p.m. ET]
Senate leaders announced on Wednesday that they have reached a deal to end
the government shutdown and avoid a possible U.S. default.
[Original story moved at 11:45 a.m. ET]
Senate leaders on Wednesday worked out a deal to reopen the government and
avoid a potential U.S. default as soon as midnight, sources told CNN's Dana
Bash and Ted Barrett.
Formal announcement of the agreement will come at 12 noon ET on t... 阅读全帖 |
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n******g
发帖数: 53 | 34 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/10/ted-cruz-angers-ni
Sen. Ted Cruz’s sense of humor is earning him some ill will from near and
far.
A Nigerian-American organization wants the Texas Republican to apologize for
comments he made Monday about the problems with the Affordable Care Act
website.
“You may have noticed that all the Nigerian email scammers have become a
lot less active lately,” Cruz said at a gathering with supporters in
Houston, according to the Houston Chronicle.
“They all ha... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 35 The Senate is poised to move forward Monday with legislation that would ban
forms of workplace discrimination against gay and transgendered people.
Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) on Monday announced his support for the Employment
Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), likely giving Democrats the 60 votes they
would need to break a Republican filibuster.
"After listening to Nevadans' concerns about this issue from a variety of
viewpoints and after numerous conversations with my colleagues, I feel that
support... 阅读全帖 |
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I******I
发帖数: 14241 | 37 操，这样也好，要是filibuster成功了，执政党立马总辞职，全体滚蛋。 |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 38 我的意思是说，filibuster的那个党辞职 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 39 这两个人分别是house and senate budget committee的chair.两个人通过的是budget
resolution.是不可以filibuster的。 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 40 Senate Republicans will stage a more than 30-hour talkathon on the Senate
floor to protest Democrats’ triggering of the "nuclear option" last month.
The GOP protest, which could extend into the weekend, will throw a wrench in
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) hopes of wrapping up
legislative business for 2013 as soon as possible.
Republicans will delay a final vote on Cornelia Pillard, one of President
Obama’s picks for the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, until about 1 a.m.
Thursday. |
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n*********a
发帖数: 1956 | 42 美国佬讲的是走程序，所谓程序正义 due process of something。
你只要能走通程序，世界就是你的。
你个邓产党到现在还是看不懂这一点，所以filibuster之类的阻碍程序进度的游戏玩法
，对于邓产党和对于毛产党一样，都是天书。 |
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n*********a
发帖数: 1956 | 43 中国的情况是共产党直接把宪法顶到肺（四项基本原则规定宪法就是共产党的家法），
即便这样还经常不遵守自己的家法胡来。
美国资本家再怎么牛也得走程序，哪怕是装样子也得走完正常程序，对手至少有
filibuster这类反击手段。 |
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f*******y
发帖数: 8358 | 44 不要看中文的。看英文的
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_rule
Because a majority can win a vote under majority rule, it has been commonly
argued that majority rule can lead to a "tyranny of the majority".
Supermajoritarian rules, such as the three-fifths supermajority rule
required to end a filibuster in the United States Senate, have been proposed
as preventative measures of this problem. |
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v********e
发帖数: 1985 | 45 没啥用，filibuster一上，加上参议院没有60票以上多数，啥都干不成。 |
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v********e
发帖数: 1985 | 46 参议院没有60票多数，不能override presidential veto，加上不能override
filibuster，啥都做不了。 |
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v********e
发帖数: 1985 | 47 这几年一直在停摆。没有一个党在参院有60票多数，没法override filibuster。 |
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d*********2
发帖数: 48111 | 48 要想过还是要妥协。 不然filibuster大家都别玩。
我还是希望扩大技术移民的， 至少振兴下美国的实体经济， 不是光靠印钞票印出来的
股市繁荣。
有戏 |
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v********e
发帖数: 1985 | 49 大家忘了还有filibuster。不需要奥巴出马，一个senator足以。奥巴上台后共和党怎
样混成party of no，接下来民主党怎么混。 |
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d*********g
发帖数: 286 | 50 还有filibuster这一招呢，GOP的票数也这一关都过不去。 |
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