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发帖数: 4745 | 3 转载(from sdtta.org)
Neil Smyth 4 Star Tournament 2013
October 28th, 20132 comments
The second annual Neil Smyth 4 star Tournament brought an extremely talented
collection of players to San Diego. The premier player was Chinese
National B Team member and current ICC coach, Xin Zhou. His off the charts
skills and nonchalance were demonstrated in warm ups where he could paint
every corner of the table at a flick of the wrist. His curling loops turned
so fast a player had to dive to retrieve them... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 238 | 4 i have same problem, i am short guy so difficult to reach the peak... if it
is close to net, easy to kan/slice...but mostly are long deep balls,
difficult to flick or hit early too, since hard to pinpoint where it
falls onto the table...
guess in a match only way is not to let them do this, by using variety.... |
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s***n
发帖数: 704 | 5 我们附近的俱乐部flick performance center这个月刚关门。 |
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P****S
发帖数: 2457 | 6 第三局领先那么多居然被追成丢士，好在13：11拿下了，这局最后一球很解气，吃了N
次托马斯这种所谓“flat flick"的亏了。 |
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l*w
发帖数: 567 | 7 我很久没打USATT的比赛了。可能1600-1700附近。
平时比赛，时常能赢1700到1900，周三刚赢了一个1900+的。
但有时也输给1500-1600的。不是很稳定。
我练直板横打有5年多了。
完全是自学，靠自己练习找感觉，然后不停地摸索改进。
大概半年前吧，感觉找到了一个最佳的握拍和击球方式。
于是知道了怎么发力。在练得手感好的时候，可以发全力击球。
球速非常之快，比我正手还快。
不过我现在的反手横打稍显单薄。
主要是只能打台内球，出台反而打的不好。
这和正手相反，我正手出台、远台都打得好，但台内不会（就是那种flick）。
所以我现在台内都是找机会用反手打。 |
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n**t
发帖数: 606 | 8 有几个新的乒乓球技术，如拧（张继科最擅长的反手拧），撕，英文分别应该怎么说？
只知道台内挑打叫flick。 |
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k***e
发帖数: 1931 | 10 拧好像是banana flick/flip。快撕可能是backhand fast loop? |
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k***e
发帖数: 1931 | 11 backhand flick就是正常的反手挑。 |
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发帖数: 9040 | 12 It”s Mo running away from things! Fun pictures show Olympic hero Farah
escaping from zombies, Batman and thousands of runaway brides
The disbelieving expression on the face of Mo Farah as he won the men”s 5,
000m final to claim his second Olympic gold medal has become one of the
iconic images of the 2012 Games.
Now one fan has used the picture to create a hilarious online tribute to his
Olympic hero, showing the track star on the run from an array of pursuers
including murderous gangster Tony Mo... 阅读全帖 |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 13 看看一笑就好，读者请用自己的适当理解，不建议完全效仿。
Top 100 Things Every Skier Should Do Before They Die (circa 2000.)
http://www.epicski.com/t/73003/top-100-things-every-skier-shoul
Here's the list:
Top 100 Things Every Skier Should Do Before They Die
1. Call in sick on a powder day.
Extra credit for using one of these excuses:
"I fell asleep in the tanning booth and was seriously burned over 96% of my
body. It's imperative that I remain naked" (This explains your tan)
"Okay, since you asked: It really hurts when I pe... 阅读全帖 |
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m**l
发帖数: 11854 | 14 对第1个进球的描述：
In the blink of an eye, Iniesta intercepted the ball, and with maybe the
shortest of the 871 passes with which his team overwhelmed Arsenal during
its performance Wednesday, he slipped it to Messi. ... With a delicate
little flick of his left foot, Messi lifted the ball over the sprawling
keeper. With another touch, he volleyed it gracefully into the net.
直指森纳葡萄（酸）：
Arsenal would spoil the night with sour-grape excuses about the refereeing,
specifically about the Swiss official Massi... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2279 | 15 Learn the lesson
That Japan went from losing 9-0 and 7-0 to the United States in the weeks
before the 1999 Women’s World Cup to beating them in the final just 12
years later is a testament to what youth development can do. Proper youth
development.
Perhaps the biggest question for American soccer is whether this finally,
once and for all, unequivocally will get the sport’s powerbrokers in this
country to realize its system is horribly flawed.
Japan may have been inspired by the pioneering 1999 U... 阅读全帖 |
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s***s
发帖数: 4329 | 16 World's 100 richest peopleEmailPrintNormal fontLarge fontMarch 10, 2006 - 9:
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Forbes magazine. Listings include rank, name, home country, age where known,
wealth in billions of US dollars and source of the money.
1. William Gates III, US, 50, $50, Microsoft
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3. Carlos Slim Helu, Mexico, 66, $30, telecom
4. Ingvar Kamprad, Sweden, 79, $28, Ikea
5. Lakshmi Mittal, India,... 阅读全帖 |
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e*******e
发帖数: 9616 | 17 独立开贴：one touch 专题讨论
鉴于这里大部分对我所提倡的one touch有很多误解，独立开贴one touch 专题讨论，
把问题讨论透彻一点，把我的point make清楚一点。打字认真一点。也算是对真心喜爱
足球的网友们的尊重。
首先看看英国小报今天８月份对one touch的分析报告
http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/09/barcelona-show-off-incredible-one
Barcelona show off incredible one-touch passing in training video
Friday 9 Aug 2013 6:15 pm
Barca show off one-touch passing in training videoBarcelona look at ease
playing quick, one-touch football (Picture: YouTube)
The secrets of Barcelona’s success may have been uncovered in a ne... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9546 | 18 It's by no means an easy task to beat France at home.
It might only take a flick Brazil to become formidable again.
The soccer world is evolving, but it's hard to say that Brazil needs to come
back as it has not gone far from the top, even in the recent so-called low
period.
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s****y
发帖数: 196 | 19 9/14/2012
100 yards in 1'56".
在试toe-flick for two-beat kick. 好像有些作用。
试着将手往下方伸一些，大概4:30 到 5:00钟方向，发现身体旋转容易些。 |
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s****y
发帖数: 196 | 20 9/14/2012
100 yards in 1'56".
在试toe-flick for two-beat kick. 好像有些作用。
试着将手往下方伸一些，大概4:30 到 5:00钟方向，发现身体旋转容易些。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 21 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
radiometrix (GoN13) 于 (Tue Aug 18 15:30:56 2009, 美东) 提到:
Notice that some opponents stand further from baseline. I could get a slow
ACE serve if I do dropspin.
How to serve drop shot via uphand serve?
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KennyD (|-==-|) 于 (Tue Aug 18 15:38:58 2009, 美东) 提到:
Learn from the pro. Remember to use the badminton flick of wrist.
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dpg (肖浪) 于 (Tue Aug 18 15:44:30 2009, 美东) 提到: |
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发帖数: 9761 | 22 TWITER上看到这个，笑死了
Sloane's family are working overtime in the US with the voodoo & hoodoo.
Stuck a fork in Serena's back yesterday, & flicked Vika's ankle... |
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发帖数: 6757 | 23 That ugly backhand.... gotta be Jim courier. Last shot was most impressive,
wrist flick so effortlessly yet the ball just took off. If he not jim he's
atleast a world class player |
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发帖数: 6757 | 24 Ok, i'll just try my best to describe the stroke. For now pick a stance you
are most comfortable for now, close, open, semi-open, if you dont' know what
they are, google it.
1. put the racquet on the ground, and pick it up at the end of the handle,
that should be your semi-western grip
2. get your shoulder perpendicular to the net; raise your elbow, slightly
bend, upper arm away from the body about 90 degrees, flick your wrist a
slightly up so your racquet will be perpendicular to the ground an... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6757 | 25 you are describing what to do when he's stuck in those situations, but that'
s not the best solution. The best solution is never get yourself into those
situation.
蹲深and flick it back or 缩动作硬顶 will most likely get the ball back in
opponent's strike zone, it is likely you'll be running for your life in the
next shot or two, then the shot after that will be you praising good shot to
opponent and cuss the crap out of him or yourself in your head. lol |
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发帖数: 6757 | 26 Basically you are saying to hit a half-volley type of the backhand, except
you'll be near the baseline. Step in, cut the angle off, bend low, compact
prep, and just flick the wrist, used opponents power to redirect ball. Right?
That should work, and should be a good fit for your game style. Timing is
not easy though, but with 2HBH, you can always muscle the ball. Issue is if
you don't redirect well, you'll be in trouble in the next shot then again it
's the same for any type of stroke. =)
Also y... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6757 | 27 yea, it is easier to flick the wrist with thinner grip. However, if you have
a tendency of mis-hit, bigger grip provide a bit more stability since you
can grip it better...
wrist? |
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发帖数: 6757 | 28 我觉得录像里教练指的“racket on edge往前带” 里的"racket on edge"，是要有
windshiel wiper的感觉， 如果打出的是平击，说明在这步骤前的racquet head drop
不够， 或者击球后， 盘面rolled over the ball了 (drive, 其实上旋还是有不少的
) 而不是brush up/flick through the ball； “往前带”是让左手多往前挥 （甚至
contact 可以再前些）， 目前可能还是右手用了不少力，所以会有这种cross the
body 拉。
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发帖数: 6757 | 29 有些球最好用open stance, 比如人在底线后两三步或更多, 这些球用open 或 semi
open 都, 看spacing 和人的preferences。有些短或弱的球可以用neutral 或close
stance (open/semi 也是可以的)
挥拍轨道其实是该差不多, 不同的地方是击球后windshield wiper flick up more,
drive 的话拍头会更向前些。这个我觉得目前没必要太重视, 因为打久了自然会得到感
受。 孩子小, 这种细节没必要。我觉得准备(拍子, stance, 肩, 左手等), 和weight
transfer可以注意和督促。 (swing is good already)
很多说法是打open stance 是lazy的打法。 Wilander 甚至都说业于选手不该打open
stance (我不同意他的说法)。一般球短都会打close/neutral stance, 因为左脚得跨
一步才能在自己的strike zone里打到球, 这种球都可以attack, 所以该把右脚跟上一
步,身体力向前压, drive it. 有些... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6757 | 30 这个找起来有点难， 因为我的打法是尽量打正手， 在这个基础上打反手也是尽量拉高
拉深的上旋 （loop topspin?)
先确定我们说的是同一个情况， 你说的是对手打个又深又重的上旋， 我人卡在不前不
后的位置 （前的话，step in, hit on the rise, almost like a half volley; 后拉
上旋）。 这个情况我已经算是很被动了， 基本很难step in, drive it through, 所
以（1)往往靠block加push把球顶回；(2)如果不需要左右调整， 可以身体向前压， 凌
空下压； (3)如果有时间准备， 还是靠借对方的pace和spin, flick 回去（不知道这
种算不算loop topspin). 总之， 你所说的shot是个在非常defensive position的情况
下打offensive shot, 我觉得这不是个好的shot selection.... 不过我可能对这情况
也有误解。
我看了下我和CC 9/3的比赛（不知道Asus post了没）， 第二个接发， 他发了个重的
topspin/kick 到我反... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6757 | 31 racquet head drop and flick? |
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发帖数: 2770 | 32 对啊，简单的说就是这样，手腕有flick的动作。这两天的体会是可以高位都能打出又
快又深的球，主要是击球时hold的住球，并且能发力，整体的稳定性好像比之前更好了
，尤其在加力量时，感觉击球比“拉”球solid很多 |
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发帖数: 1696 | 33 Yes, My life is bitter.
My topspin is weak.
I hit a backhand.
Of that I'm sure.
But it got blocked, by his flick backhand,
and came back faster and flat to the corner...
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 34 说些我看的问题(有的可能只是限于这个球而言), 你可以用来参考。
Spacing, 没调整好所以再击球是你的身体在向左drag, 会导致pace spin 下降 ue上升
, 缺乏准度
肩, 引拍时转的不够
拍面, 你的向右, 比较像很多老美pro的swing not fed or many other eu player. 更
适合slap the ball instead of flick the ball
重心, 有些过早的transfer 到右脚上了, 可能和之前的spacing有关。 |
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发帖数: 6757 | 35 试过， 没加lead tape的感觉球容易飞， 猜想是缺乏些swing weight, 这样我得刻意
的多些effort来flick up for topspin. 加了lead tape的（9点和2点位置） 不错，
但pure control 的削球有些floating, 发球感觉snap up through也没有6.1 或volkl
好。 不过我觉得的确是不多的拍子， 非常forgiving, 非常powerful... (不过另一
朋友把它所的像shit一样烂 lol, 萝卜白菜各有所爱吧）。
than |
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发帖数: 6757 | 36 试过， 没加lead tape的感觉球容易飞， 猜想是缺乏些swing weight, 这样我得刻意
的多些effort来flick up for topspin. 加了lead tape的（9点和2点位置） 不错，
但pure control 的削球有些floating, 发球感觉snap up through也没有6.1 或volkl
好。 不过我觉得的确是不多的拍子， 非常forgiving, 非常powerful... (不过另一
朋友把它所的像shit一样烂 lol, 萝卜白菜各有所爱吧）。
than |
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发帖数: 6757 | 37 I tried this one:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Head_Graphene_Prestige_Pro/desc
I find this similar to my 6.1, but bit more forgiving, and easier to flick
though. Similar to 6.1, it's very good for slice. I don't find much power in
neither prestige nor 6.1, both require player to apply the power, where i
find the super G10 and pure control tour, the power comes a lot easier. I
would say prestige and 6.1 are both good racquets, but it's a bit too
advanced for me at this point. |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 38 可能大家对上旋的理解不完全一样吧， 这回到贾教练很久前说的什么很多wsn的“上旋
”不是上旋的问题上去了。 上旋主要是手腕的flick, 而很多wsn的上旋是用手臂拉导
致loopy, 你可能指得是这种。
不过回想今年打的双打， 其实真正拉底线的机会很少， 有时甚至碰上个正手球，会不
知道怎么打因为比赛时一直没机会打。 |
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发帖数: 6757 | 39 this is a bit difficult to say because of it really has more to do with the
incoming ball, and your position.... typically if you are on the defensive
end, loopy heavy topspin cc is the right thing to do, higher percentage too.
The only tip i can give is keep your arm and wrist loose, keep tracking the
ball, don't look up, at the moment of contact, try to keep every body still,
and flick it, use opponent's pace.
how |
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发帖数: 6757 | 40 I think I know what you are talking about. It's all in the wrist flick, and
re-direct opponent's pace... the arm "swing" is more of extend to get the
ball, and often it's not a flat shot, it only look flat because its net
clearance is not high.
If you can really hit a flat shot with arm swinging, then I'm not sure you
are getting pulled wide enough nor if you really need to hit it on the run... |
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发帖数: 615 | 41 Play DTL, the follow through is cut shorter than cc.
You (anyone) need to hide your shoulder to disguise the direction. Your core
rotation is thus less yet you need more spin. It is definitely not as open
as cc in terms of stance. Unless you are very good at top spin, DTL is
always a little bit harder to do and less forgiving.
However, DH BH flick to DTL is easier, of course, that meanings borrowing
powers.
点么 |
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发帖数: 6757 | 42 not sure if we are talking about the same situation. When you get extended
out like that, I really don't think you can hit a proper lob with a player's
racquet, the only 2 choices are a squash shot or flick wrist dtl.... a
extended out block "lob" will be end up with an easy volley put away, most
likely it won't even be an overhead... I guess that still count as a choice |
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发帖数: 6757 | 43 (总结at bottom)
作为动作派的， 我的确“喜欢钻研标准的动作”， 但像pro看齐有些言过其实了。 从
标准的动作角度来说， 没有一个pro是将每一个动作都做标准的。 pro 也是人， 他们
也是从小学网球。太刻意的纠正会影响他们的兴趣或总体的发展。 所以我认为pro的
glitch很多也都是从小养成的。 很多他们自己也知道， 但已经到这个级别了， 再回
去大改是不大可能的。要改个动作不是什么在场场泡一两个星期就行的。 Gulbis 的正
手可以说是花了2，3年才改成功的吧。 他能这样该的一个原因是他不完全是为了钱打
球，或说他不需要钱。。。
虽说pro 的stroke看上去 “千奇百怪”, 但从真正在的击球那个步骤， 他们基本都是
差不多的。 很多大的差别和身高和打法有关。 Gulbis 引拍“大鹏展翅”，但真正击
球时的mechanic 和其他pro 没什么两样。 我认为的标准动作是从引拍到击球到挥完，
总体能最effecient, 最effortless. WSN 看 pro 的stroke 不同主要是从他们的引拍
来说的。 我认为最标准的引拍，拍子该在 slot 里。 ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6757 | 44 说的有道理, 不过最可怕的是动作好看+稳定, 如果两个只能选一项完全同意你的观点
。 问题是在提高网球水平的过程中怎样平衡动作和稳定。。。我觉得追求的是个稳定
的标准动作。而这个标准动作不是说一步到位, 而是一步一步稳定的改善。 比如发球,
刚开始没必要刻意弯膝盖跳, 抛球也可以抛高些。 正手一开始注意转肩和些基本动作
, windshield wiper, trail racquet head wrist flick 等等可以慢慢再加上去。 不
该完全为了稳定而去刻意的稳定, 该打什么球还是得打。。。 not easy to balance,
just make sure it's within your limitation
误. |
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发帖数: 6757 | 45 对于职业选手，要发挥好，一个很重要的因素就是feel good factor. 练球时，对
timing, feel of contact，抓准自己的节奏， hit clean ball 更为重要。 要练这些
hitting partner 得能“喂” 有节奏有pace的球。 如果画圈圈练， hitting partner
不容于“喂”球， 练球的效果不见得好。 两个stroke 看似很不一样其实关键的也都
差不多， 主要不同的是follow through.
wsn 学这个reverse forehand 很多只是学会了个型， 和nadal的其实很不有样。 wsn
的contact 往往离身体近， 上旋主要是靠向上拉而出来的。 nadal 的reverse
forehand, contact is away from body, 上旋是flick 出来的。 这个对racquet head
speed 要求很高， 要consistently 打出clean 的这种球对一般人来说很难， 可能对
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发帖数: 6757 | 46 启发不是 the need to close in, 启发在他现在的stage是 get comfortable at big
matches, get confident with his own shots. 如果他已经是个finish product了，
我同意你的说法， 你的说法其实也是他将会走的道路。 但指望他像 flick 一个
switch一样到那个进阶，我觉得有些过早。 tennis is progress. :)
WSN 很大问题也就是over play 自己的limitation 而没好好的去develop自己的skills
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发帖数: 6757 | 47 how? 引拍准备是肩该转和网基本直线， 这时打dtl, inside out 都行. finish 时，
随挥，手臂和拍子wrap around the body, 整个肩也都转了，打dtl, cc 都可以是这种
finish。。。
我觉得关闭还是开放主要是看想打drive 还是 heavy. 关闭for drive, 开放for heavy
(flick). lz 是eastern fh grip, 我猜想swing path 偏向于outside and in vs low
to high, 所以在这个基础上， 关闭很自然就 cc 了， 开放相对而言只是delay了关
闭， 也就go dtl了。 |
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发帖数: 6757 | 48 以下是我的定义：
Pusher是把球推过网， 拍面基本和网平行， 引拍小或没引拍， 基本也没有follow
through on the string， racquet head speed 非常慢。
Hacker: 是pusher 的加强版， stroke基本和上面相似， 但会多用下旋。slice, chip
, squash shot, racquet head speed 开始增加。
Grinder 分两种， 第一种是roll over the ball 打出带些上旋的moonball. 这种也
常会被人称为pusher. 他们一般都会有个引拍和follow through， racquet head
speed moderate; 第二种是靠手腕flick 出windshield wiper 打出非常重的上旋， 这
种都有个full swing + 非常快的racquet head speed.
Count-puncher: 喜欢take the ball early on the rise, 借用对手的pace 来re-
direct 球。
Murray 拥有以上所有的技术... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6757 | 49 yea, i'm not saying you should give up... i have won these kinda of points
by pass the net guy with my dtl fh... but I never practice it or put much
thought into it. Run, track the ball, keep wrist and arm lose, and just slap
/flick.... i'm sure you spend enough time on the court, your instinct will
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发帖数: 6757 | 50 我个人看法， 如果孩子还小， 什么grip并不是那么重要， 等孩子对网球有更深的了
解感触，自己会根据自己的水平，喜好来调整的。 我认为更重要的的注重引拍和准备
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“但是长远发展看，很难打出winner,”
否认这一条， 除非你同样认为Novak Djokevic 正手打不出winner.
"hit through的平击球比加旋转的球effortless"
也不同意这一条， technique 对， contact 准，两项都该是effortless...
我认为以练平击为基础的最大好处是在于contact point 早，其次是打球的aggressive
心态。 在平击基础上慢慢再加上旋， 这样球过网没那么loopy但还是很重 （like
most of pro you see on tv)。 坏处是， point or rally 可能会end rather
quickly。 以练上旋为基础好处是娃更能掌握flick 来加快racquet head speed (
windsheild wiper), 而且容易学会利用角度，旋转，调动，跑动来赢球。 在能拉出重
的上旋基础上， 再... 阅读全帖 |
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