u*********e 发帖数: 9616 | 1 还是那句话,四周少了,跟规则有关,但是footwork那些不容易,不是水平下降,是侧
重点改了,过去是Jump不牛站不住没戏,现在是我这个不行,别的行也还有机会。
当然要使又能四周又能编排的好footwork牛,那就更好了,但是这样的牛人哪朝哪代也
是凤毛麟角 |
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e*******c 发帖数: 2133 | 2 去了啊,不错啊。就是上来先学footwork,然后教你该刺哪儿,劈哪儿什么的(我选得
是佩剑,可以劈/砍,重花都只能刺)。footwork是最重要的,以后得压腿了。
highland park那儿也有一家,好像价格略微便宜些,在考虑中。 |
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c******m 发帖数: 300 | 3 I recommend people to take a look at LCW's footwork for net kill.
It is very unusual for single player to use this footwork, but it is very
useful in doubles. |
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W*N 发帖数: 1354 | 4 Ok, I can see where you are coming from and what I said can be interpreted
that way. It would be more accurate to say that it is more important for me
at the stage to improve stamina and muscles in order to improve footwork.
I knew what the correct footwork was, but could not do because I was either
too late so I had to overreach or when I try to come back, my leg muscle
could support it sufficiently that I was wobbly and lost my balance.
There are also different ways to increase stamina and mus... 阅读全帖 |
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u*****y 发帖数: 979 | 5 从头看了一下,他好象不是这意思。
但是我觉得,要比得这么比,练足球footwork的,和练篮球footwork的,再练篮球。你
抓个牛人,好比Nash,人就是没练过足球,也不会差。 |
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E**y 发帖数: 1018 | 6 不知道这里有多少人经常读deadspin,他们的writers的水平真的很不错,而且没有很
多大报columnist的装腔作势和pc。
The Graceful, Oversized Legacy of Yao Ming
Emma Carmichael —How long was Yao Ming going to last? That was the question
about the seven-foot-six center long before he broke his foot for the first
time in the NBA. When Yao joined the league nine summers ago, picked first
overall in the 2002 draft by the Houston Rockets, he was the man who would
bring the entire Chinese market with him to Texas, a force that would
effectively "glob... 阅读全帖 |
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m******1 发帖数: 86 | 7 林突破方向感非常好,最独特的地方在于别人最后一步拼跳高,林拼跳远: 我跳的没你
高, so what, 只要我跳的比你远,一样吃你,还捞一个犯规。亚洲人身体,尤其是弹
跳比黑人差太多,只能独辟蹊径,跟练跳高的玩跳远了,用他的长项吃别人的短处。
林的右手非常好,非常接近顶尖水平。但左手从职业球员角度,是他的一大缺点,尤其
是左手FINISH能力远没达标。林的右手反手看起来不错,其实这也是一个无奈的选择,
本来这些球就该是左手投,左手不行才右手反手。如果左手能投,投篮空间,选择及对
防守队员的压力将是成倍增长,看看KOBE在防守丛林及多人包夹的从容及高效就是绝好
的例子。非常希望他能把左手开发出来,也许有一天能成为优势。 但不是很看好他的
左手,毕竟Lin太刻苦了,苦练了15-20年还这个水平,可能左手就这样了。
林还是有不少上升空间,但以他的身体,不要期望他能长时间维持Linsanity.最理想就
是能成为一个队的3-4号选择。林的突破已经peak了,时间长了,防守队员就琢磨出来
怎么防他,毕竟林的身体条件差一大块。另外,亚洲人身体耐操性还是差很多,25岁以
后,身体就过了peak了。但... 阅读全帖 |
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M****z 发帖数: 1058 | 8 技术上是以footwork为基础
有人比较过,是折了肋骨后急于复出导致伤了膝盖,后来才是大幅度下滑,好像是38岁
。35岁的乔丹还是挺能蹦的,第一步还超快。
从footwork的细节和执行能力看起,才发现为啥人家那么牛逼,为啥老了还能那么打。
以前没注意到这些实战里具体的东西,只知道看着有不同。还见老美讨论科比和乔丹的
动作区别。以我看过的视频,我觉得主要是脚步的稳定性导致技术动作在“脆”上的区
别,当然还有个人的运动节奏不同。
如同之前其他帖子提到过的,乔丹双脚都可为轴发力,我觉得这是最最基本的他和其他
球员的根基之一。上半身的动作没有下盘做底,都是空谈。有兴趣的话可以看看球员动
作的实际轴心还有可变换轴心的范围。越大,在原地可施展的空间就越多。防守就越困
难,
轻。 |
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M****z 发帖数: 1058 | 9 说姚明技术相对差的 请多研究一下footwork 不用直接看姚和王的 从MJ,kobe的开始
等看明白基本会有哪些footwork变化和要点(不光是做出那个动作,非常重要的要点是
在高对抗下控制身体重心的移动)后,再看看姚的进攻,绝对是顶级的(当然,别和奥
拉朱旺比)。
姚的身高 能有这么好的协调性和不错的速率 真的是天赋极佳的 他自己也肯学肯钻研 |
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C*****E 发帖数: 2679 | 10 白菜的footwork本来就不行,老了就完蛋了。
其实很多QB的footwork也不行,但是他们还有很强壮的arm,可以从稍微awkward的位置
丢出来。白菜的arm已经不行了。
只有shotgun,站着不动丢球,允许白菜扬长避短。
如果苦逼牙科改邪归正,改回shotgun,白菜还会很不错的,当然shotgun也要shotgun
的OL配置,不知道野驴有没有准备。 |
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l*x 发帖数: 14021 | 11 I really don't want to argue with you, as you are taking everything personal
. but I have to say you are taking OL development for granted. It needs long
term commitment and investment. Consistency is the key. Who else was able
to consistently developed starting caliber OL in the league with low budget?
There are a lot of misses everywhere. You think cable wanted to start new
guys at all 5 OL position? You think many other coaches on the street could
have had much more success? What can you do w... 阅读全帖 |
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g**********s 发帖数: 856 | 12 一般跳舞有footwork和hip action我会先记footwork,走顺了再加其他部位的碎动作
多练练就顺了,muscle memory will kick in |
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b**j 发帖数: 20742 | 13 看的都是门道。我们都是看热闹。Joyner's review on Cam Newton:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/insider/columns/story?
ner_kc&id=6178028
(此处删去对提包的不敬评论300字)
There are a wide variety of areas that should concern NFL teams and were app
arent when I went back and reviewed tape on Newton, but the three most signi
ficant are:
1. Footwork
To say Newton's footwork was inconsistent would be giving it credit it doesn
't deserve; it was almost as if this part of his game was an afterthought.
One clear-cut example o... 阅读全帖 |
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p**********t 发帖数: 2636 | 14 臂力和footwork都有关系。爬overhang的时候尤其容易在胳膊上较劲而忽视了footwork
其实我很喜欢overhang,安全,不怕lead fall,可以很舒服地push limit。 |
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m**********0 发帖数: 698 | 15 Actually I disagree. When I played in YMCA, We only have a couple of 2000
level players. I played with all the 1600-1700 players. I rarely player with
2000 level player at that time. My rating from my first tournament is 1800+
an di think we have 2000 level skill. Just need some tournament experience.
All my skill of placement and blocking skill is developed in YMCA.多球 is
critical to improve your footwork and timing. For example, HPZD 漏球 30% due
to his timing and footwork.Compared with HPZD, J... 阅读全帖 |
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h******r 发帖数: 1578 | 16 http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/plano/headlines/2
By MATTHEW WATKINS
MATTHEW WATKINS The Dallas Morning News Staff Writer
m******[email protected]
Published: 31 December 2012 11:19 PM
On the night after Christmas, dozens of kids gathered to play pingpong in
dimly lit gyms behind two separate Plano strip centers.
Most of them were smiling and laughing as they sweated and swung their
paddles, sending little orange balls all over the hardwood floors. But these
weren’t basement warriors... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 17 Henin wins on footwork, volley, and slightly on backhand.
Serena wins on serve and forehand. She loses on volley majorly
due to footwork. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 18 Niu ah.
Forehand: very solid, very likely your signature shot. The whole
swing motion is almost flawless, compact and efficient; the left
hand stretch is very 拉风。The 反带帽子 added to the coolness.
Footwork: very solid again, goes very well with your forehand.
forehand+footwork: I would say if you can keep the balls in most
of the time, your forehand wing is very strong (easily 4.0).
Nobody can win points easily from that side.
Backhand: OK but not as stable as your forehand. Also there is
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 19 hehe,我认为刚好相反.发球虽然是可以一个人,但却是最难学的网球技术.而步伐就好
improve许多了,业余选手间基本上就是差在footwork上.而且footwork可以不用什么
eqiupment,就是一个人在有点空间的地方就可以练了,非常flexible...
看来我跟你对网球许多方面的认知有很大差别,你在哪,有机会我领教一下手腕啃派的神
功... |
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d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 20 你说的这些都需要力量和身体协调性,柔韧性,素质训练很有帮助。
比如,比如腿部力量不足,肌肉不够,练习serve的时候,如果练习次数不够,还没有
正确感觉一个session就结束,那么提高不了;如果练习时间长了,膝关节就该受不了
了。另外腰腹力量不够,练到后来动作就会不自觉地变形,对整个muscle memory还有
手感都没有帮助。arm的力量更不用说了。
网球打到后来,就是footwork了,footwork绝对是建立在体能基础的。你打一小时球以
后,你身体会拖着你的mind走,不是你的mind带动你身体了。
另外就是协调性,其实很多人不够协调,也是因为做某些标准动作费劲,就用其他动作
代偿,久而久之,就不协调了。比如做transition volley,应该是ben knee的,这样
能保证你的control,不至于容易打出高球,但是你腿部肌肉不好,在运动中ben需要更
多力量,而且做完动作后,要立即起身准备下一拍,也是对腿部肌肉和力量要求很高。
所以很多人就干脆不ben了,而且久而久之形成习惯。这样10次tv,大概有7,8次都回
高球被killed了。你说这是tennis ski |
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c***t 发帖数: 1216 | 21 FYB那个应该是不用跑直接就可以打的footwork,还要是open stance
需要跑几步才能打的话肯定是第二个footwork
to |
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b*****t 发帖数: 758 | 22 You have anything specific? That would be very helpful.
When I play ball machines, currently i do three things
1) footwork (mainly baseline hopping, trying to develop it into a habit)
2) making shots under different conditions and different bounces
3) placing balls within a few feet of the border at different locations in
the courts
I found none of these can be done with the wall:
1) there is no footwork required.
2) balls bounce monotonically, almost the same all the time
3) Cannot see where th |
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r****x 发帖数: 3613 | 23 nod,footwork是最关键的。
注意力如果球性太熟悉,闭着眼睛都能打,那也无所谓。
所以,我觉得重要性上来说第一是footwork,下来就是球性,包括bounce,旋转,速度
的判断,还
有自己的手感。 |
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 24 这是常规赛的最后一场了.对方之前是七胜一负.唯一输掉的那场的对手是我在playoff
中极可能碰到的,对方输了3 close sets,所以我很想把他当作试刀石,看看自己在
playoff中有没有机会.
对方是个日本小伙子,看上去非常年轻,好象teenage一样.各种渠道得来的消息是,从小
就开始打,form和footwork非常好,control没话说.我心里已经凉了半截,我这老骨头那
点对其他wsn的体能优势,对上这么年轻的还是只会是劣势.warmup时一打,原来是个
lefty,又凉了一截.给版上众位lefty高手痛扁的惨况还记忆犹新呀~~ 不过聊以安慰的
是对方是双反,我才稍微镇定下来...
第一个set,果然,小消息都是很准的,对方的form和footwork是我见过最好的了.我深知
道对付这样的对手,一有机会就一定要kill,不然的话我这老骨头就肯定给他拖垮了.这
场也是我最aggressive的一场了,拼了老命调整到正手就是一板杀下去.许多时候以为就
是winner了,至少对其他人肯定是.结果看到他不慌不忙,闲庭信步跨了几步就把球block
了回来,nnd,我调整得这么辛 |
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a**s 发帖数: 9606 | 25 Do not think so. Only thing is dh can not slice well. But they do can
hit all kind of ground strokes: flat, topspin, down the line, or cross
court. You did not meet before does not mean it is lack of variety.
No matter what, footwork is the fundamental for ALL kind of shots.
Use shbh does not guarantee a good footwork.
Deep and heavy top spin to backhand is the deadly shots for shbh players,
even for pros. I wish you will have chance to play with xmo :) |
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t****i 发帖数: 4225 | 26 12点多才到家,有点疯了,也累死了。很久没打了,结果今天跟两个不同的人打,还跑
到两个不同的地方去打的。
收获是进一步把我的reverse forehand提高了,现在都有点打上隐了,自己稍微慢点都
能用reverse forehand打回去。以前我基本不打reverse forehand,但不知为什么,自
从跟单反mm打球之后,我就不自觉的会打reverse forehand了。可能很多原因是有时自
己跟不上她的节奏,结果被逼出来了。
还有就是running forehand也有了感觉,不过打小角度斜线还是打不太好,主要还是在
大范围的跑动中拍面还是没有控制好。而且我的running forehand很多时候都是打直线
,所以还是稍微慢了半拍。 footwork footwork!!! |
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f*****n 发帖数: 18176 | 27 前段时间一直FOCUS在动作,尤其是反手动作。现在有超过一个人说偶的单反动作还漂
亮。所以SHIFT FOCUS到FOOTWORK和正手,虽然反手MISS HIT还是很多但相信FOOTWORK
会帮助。
也许不该用预判这个词。 很多时候,球过网或快过网才跑。如果球一出对方的拍就移
动,会轻松很多。看PRO,似乎很多球他们就在那等着。 |
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 28 ft, 才这么短时间就这么好,俨然就是2.5嘛.看来我这加州2.5的称号很快就给你抢去了
~~
当然正反手groundstroke都些问题,但根据我这身体派一贯的观点:90%的都是footwork
问题.我觉得你对球的落点判断不准,结果导致挥拍不顺畅.其实现阶段,比赛可以打一下
,但更重要的还是练好定点groundstroke.也就是你站在一个位置,让partner或ball
machine喂球给你,这样你就可以不用跑这么多,先体会一下,如果footwork到位了,挥拍
是个什么的感觉.这样做好了,下一步就是你站偏一点,让自己跑一两步去接球,体会一下
如何在跑动中调整. |
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 29 ft, 你这case先不用run 5K la.但我觉得现在对你来说提高身体素质更重要, 因为:
1. 你已经打了这么多年但还是没有太大进步,说明你的方法遇到瓶颈.这时候就要换一
下训练的方向,以前重点是form,那么现在的重点就是footwork和身体素质.譬如多做些
与网球有关的cross training, for example, x-training, boxing, hiking, cycling
, weight training, plyometrics etc. 等你过了一段时间,身体素质提高了,再回头把
重点放回form,你或许有完全不同的感受和训练心得.反正一件事做久了,都没有进展,就
说明是时候要放一放,改变一下方向.
2. 我的一个球友,4.0,暴力男.给他打中时,我根本就追不上.但就是缺乏consistent.前
段时间,有了小孩,有半年没见了.现在又再次碰到他,一打起来,consistent许多,而且明
显看出来footwork好了,许多球可以跑到位然后暴力.我问他这半年都干什么,他 他说根
本连球都没碰过,只能抽空跑5~6 miles,每星期2-3次左右. |
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z********4 发帖数: 1668 | 30
谢谢,footwork的确很重要,和发球机如何练footwork啊? |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 31 Factor in the advancement of strings, I'd say:
Serve: Sampras (by a lot - if just looking at 2nd serve alone)
Volley: Sampras (by a lot - s&v is Sampras's core)
Forehand: Federer (not by much)
Backhand: Federer (by a lot)
Footwork: Federer (by a lot)
Return: Federer
I'm more of a Sampras fan than Federer in general, but have to be objective
about it. I think Federer IS the superior player - if just by footwork
alone - best in the business.
As to their respective Era's competition... |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 32 //nod, wellmoon你只需看一个事实就明白了:
球拍力量越小,越不需要footwork, 越需要暴力。这也是为什么木头派时代
全是closed stance.
球拍力量越大,越需要footwork, 越不需要暴力。这也是为什么Carbon时代
全是open stance.
你说的那些应该考虑一下aakk的理论:如果前提不对,推理再严密也是错误
的。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 33 LZ: 4.0 forehand, 3.0 backhand, 4.0 footwork. Overall could be a strong
3.0 in league.
LZ's friend: 4.0 forehand + backhand, 3.0 footwork, weak 3.5 volley.
Overall could be an average 3.5 in league. |
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b*****t 发帖数: 758 | 34 Don't quite get this.
I overpower every chinese player in my town (we don't have that many), but I
am often overpowered by blacks/whites/hispanics. I use this to make a point
that chinese players are physically weak on average. I believe that tennis
singles strength is mainly determined by footwork+power. By power, I mean
the power when one can hit consistently (e.g. 7+ consecutive shots). Better
footwork gives one a better chance to get in position to make such shots.
Other skills, like touch a... 阅读全帖 |
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a***8 发帖数: 2433 | 35 Movement is a combination of speed, judgement, stamina, and footwork. Often
times, the early judgement and efficient footwork are signs of skilled
players, but speed and stamina are easier to to be noticed... |
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S***e 发帖数: 4426 | 36 其实我觉得一个真正的原因是这个ntrp rating system完全没有提到
footwork以及防守的问题。但是footwork是一切技术的基础。你跟
人家打,人家追得到球,你追不到,当然打不过人家了。 |
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 37 打inside-out footwork是关键。要提前向左移动,给正手挥拍留出空间,同时可以略
微面向右转(右撇子)。当然还有很多具体挥拍的要领,不过footwork是一切的基础 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 38 Question to biok, serveok or any other strong female players.
Copied from TT:
Say you are captain of a 7.5 combo doubles team. You have a strong 4.0
player, and you have to pick a partner for her.
Even though the 4.0 is by far the strongest player on the team, she cannot
win a doubles match by herself. She needs the right type of partner. If she
has the wrong kind of partner, she could conceivably be beaten in a game of
Xtreme Keep-Away. Opponents can be expected to target the partner and avoid
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z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 39 pusher本来就是靠footwork弥补力量不足的吧
还有footwork差的pusher?咋铺? |
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t****i 发帖数: 4225 | 40 其实很多时候打不好球,打不过别人是因为身体条件不行,这里的身体条件指的是步伐
,移动和速度。而不是技
术不好,因为没法到位击球,导致很多球打失误了或打不好。大家都明白网球是靠脚打
的,网球在高水平竞技看
的不就是footwork吗?
所以我会选好的footwork多于好的技术,其实我就是身体派的,呵呵。 |
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t****i 发帖数: 4225 | 41 4.0's technique is not bad, and footwork is very important for a 4.0 to get
better.
I think McEnroe's fitness on tennis court is way better than a 4.0 player.
Have you watched him playing with Roddick in WTA World Tour this year? He
is old, but much better than you thought he is.
Anyway, in reality, tennis is a combination of everything. But what I am
trying to point out is we should focus more on fitness (footwork, balance,
speed, etc) than pure so called technique. Unfornately, here a lot ... 阅读全帖 |
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 42 不要再死撑了!象我一直强调的90%问题都是footwork问题!
你的exactly就是这样的情况,就是预判和footwork.你认为所谓的"到位"其实还是不到
位,不管问题是前后还是左右.到了大概的范围,就要用碎步来调整. |
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 43 sure, for the real match, like USTA, I always mix up the slice and swing
according to the opponents.
Like I said so many times, my backhand is still not good. So in any match
that is not important, I always force myself to do the swing. This will test
my footwork. If I can't swing, it means my footwork is still not good
enough to reach the position on time. Then I have to train myself more. I
always can slice back. But I don't do it in the practice or friendly match. |
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 44 呵呵,我认为如果女的能打超强topspin,那基本上应该无敌了。因为对付topspin要求
footwork和身体比较多,而女的在这方面是欠缺的。
但为什么女的少打呢?同样道理,还是footwork和身体的关系。简单来说,如果一个女
的是身体派,那优势之明显比男的身体派是不能同日而语的~~ |
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 45 老大让我反手往右跑多半步,今天晚上特别试了一下,的确很好,cross-court的单反打得很舒服,基本上可以用暴力反手打正手了,而且动作潇洒流畅,咳咳~~ 打满高强度三盘还意犹未尽。
技术派掌门的意见+身体派掌门的实践 = 充分体现了技术派和身体派两巨头的合作是可以亲密无间的!
还要请教老大,单反down-the-line的话,footwork和击球位置又如何不同呢?现在要不球太平,过了就很强,但成功率不高。但用topspin的话,就太慢,机会就浪费了。比起croess-court,footwork到位,手臂一甩那种快感差太远了~~ |
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 46 没转体,用胳膊其实都是可以用footwork来调整。
正手:LZ用的是open stance。open stance应该有更多的转体,但由于球速太慢,而导
致太懒,许多该做的都没做。
- 如果继续用open stance,就应该准备时,弓步弯膝,明显LZ的下盘懒散不稳,没有做
好蓄势待发准备,只是甩甩胳膊而已。
- 改用old school的neutral stance,这是我的favoriate,时间这么多,更适合neutral
stance,同时容易transfer body weight.当然这是个人选择问题.
反手:享受派掌门已经说过了,放手太早。但我觉得更重要还是footwork不对。总的来
说,时间虽然多,但LZ还是太懒,到球要来到面前了才作准备,导致单反不够潇洒。LZ
的单反用的是neutral stance,从而背部没有完全背对球网。时间这么充足,LZ完全可以
- 右脚在往左跨多一步,这样就是close stance,而背部就背对球网了,然后手臂潇洒
地一挥,俨然就是federer了!!
- 或者整个人再往左跑多半步,然后右脚往前跨,手臂潇洒地一挥,也是可以成为
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j**c 发帖数: 234 | 47 a few minor stuff from video (1) timing "hitch"- ther is an obvious racket
pause in the middle air waiting for ball to drop which breaks toss-hit
rhythm and the kinetic chain. try a smooth continous swing motion and/or
lower the toss. (2) footwork bofre serve-aligh left foot 45 dgree to the
baseline instead of 0 degree to baseline which require too much twist. (3)
footwork during serve-shit weight back when tossing the ball, and shift
weight forward when striking instead of somewhere in the midd... 阅读全帖 |
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m*****r 发帖数: 3822 | 48 footwork是一方面,熟练度很重要。狒狒跟我们走着打也能赢。当然熟练度
这个东西要结合footwork才能练出来,打成习惯以后高低球也都是浮云。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 49 两派有着以下的显著差别:
身体派:即使footwork很好,但是由于技术欠缺,有时跑到位情况下仍然
无法打出winner, 参见Murray.
技术派:即使footwork很好,但是有时由于绝对身体条件的欠缺(速度不够,
力量不够),仍然打不出winner, 参见Hewitt. |
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 50 身体派是强调体力,而不是footwork. Footwork跟体力应该关系不大。尤其是usta的比
赛就两盘加10分,对体力要求不高。 |
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