f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 2d3d at MP, limp after 3 limpers, 2 guys limp after me, SB/BB in too,
basically family pot.
flop: Ad5d8
check to me, i bet $8, BTN (normal) raises to $30, all fold.
i have $153 left, he covers me.
比较棘手，尤其是有player坐后面，看了他两眼，他那张扑克脸绷得紧紧的，不置可否
，靠，倒是给踢一脚啥的？
象了半天，觉得call之后还有123，可能还有玩头，就弱call了。
turn: 6d
压了$63，BTN很犹豫了1分钟，trash talk，最后决定push，俺也无话。
river: 9d。
靠！
还好，BTN是55。然后挖苦俺半天说你3d high flush也这么干？
player出来批评俺太弱，flop直接干就是了，属于无脑推。 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 2 Those hands are typical at cash game.
I don't think it is an automatic shove against a raise there. Just like
anything in poker, there is grey area.
I will say what type of opponents and how big is the folding equity are two
key factors in my decision.
Amazingly, there is not many one pair hand btn can choose to raise with,
assume he is an average player. Since he limped at btn, unless he is totally
a weak tight, we can put less weight on he holding Ak, AQ, AJ. And normal
player probaly won't ra... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 3 你到新公司报到，马上就溜号? lol.
哥们有机会该test water 2/5 NL 了， 一开始buyin 200-300, 找找感觉，风险也
不大.
Both hands are well played, IMO. For the first hand, I think you made a
great call on the turn. Second hand , very good preflop decision by
flatting QQ.
For 100BB, I do not really like limping with suited Ace EP. I prefer
have least 150BB to limp hand like that to get enough implied odds. But
that is just me. You know I am a nit playing cash game. :)
stack. |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 4 1，limp锅的话 我会在flop上就check/raise造锅
cash
Turn was a 9, completed straight for KJ, I checked again, he bet 50$, what
to do
Limped
he
got |
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M********g
发帖数: 717 | 5 The first hand, what do you put him at, Q? KJ? bluff? If it is bluff, do you
expect him to 3 barrel? i suppose the bluff % is low here. So i will raise,
representing a Q and as if raising for info. If he calls, i will c/r the
river.
Second one, I have no 5/10nl experience. How often do people limp and
reraise with KK+? As flop played, I think he did not slow play AA preflop
because i guess AA would check behind quite often. And I am not sure he
plays a set this fast since there are two more stre... 阅读全帖 |
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g*******s
发帖数: 2828 | 6 hand 3, against dch who hasn't played much all night. he had about $100 on
button, and i covered him. We have quite a bit of history -- he is quite
imaginative in our home games and i have been a particular calling station
against him.
i limped UTG with JJ expecting to check raise. rare limp pot with 6 people.
Flop was 56Qr. i led with a $12 bet. everybody folded to dch who called.
turn was a K. i checked. he bet $25. i tanked and called, figuring the bet
with a higher over card was a bit suspic... 阅读全帖 |
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l*u
发帖数: 1770 | 7 1. 我是limp in and call the raise. 因为我在button，想limp in 看看flop
2. 当时我手上大概不到300
那个拿着JJ的牌手手上大概也是200左右，我觉的只有flop all in才有可能不会输掉。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 8 看位置，靠前俺现在limp得多，20%的时候open pot，尤其是suited.
后位俺一般call a bet或9BB+，俺可以代表的range比AK/AQ大，flop还很有文章可做。
比如今天，一个nit limp calls my $17 bet, flop: 885, he check folds AKs face
up, i show him AQo.
even |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 很loose passive.
有很多人可以很轻松call $15-，但是fold to $25 flop bet.
有很多人可以很轻松limp call $17.
有很多人可以limp，然后stack off $200 postflop(all 3 streets)，就因为hit TPNK
或者有个trash OE.
suited trash的价值很高，最好是Q+以上的，而且有位置。俺已经很少玩这些垃圾了，
但是最近的收获还不错。 |
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M*Q
发帖数: 54 | 10 和几个朋友说好去WV看看，之前去过一次DE的赌场。
200的buyin，打了大概6个小时的session，最后915。
前两个小时运气比较好，就已经up 700多了，吃了午饭回来，
没拿到什么牌，bluff偷点pot，然后又bluff输掉，
所以后来4个小时stack基本没变化。
打的最大的一个pot，我在btn拿到Kc9c决定limp，SB是个ABC，
典型TAG，raise到15，并没有把他放在真正的hand上，因为
之前有过多人limp他在SB/BB squeeze的情况。两个人Call，
我也call了。
Flop: 7c8c10h
SB bet 30, one fold, LP(Asian guy) called. I got OE and FD,
so call 30.
Turn: Jd
SB bet 120, LP allin 104. LP, a little loose, like to chase draws,
but know when to lay down his hands. Also He doesn't call 15 preflop
with rand... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 11 Another hand.
There is a white woman about 50 years old on the table, who has been
playing really really loose. She called about 80% preflop and plays ABC
poker postflop. She said she owns a lot of business in Vegas and has been
playing a lot of 10k buyin tourney. Some ppl on the table said they see her on Tv poker show before. She said she is good friend of linda Johnson. lol. She seems a
total cash game fish for me.
Anyway, she won quite a few big pots and had over 1k on th... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 12 1/2NL，UTG limps, i limp with Kh6h, MP (a selectively aggressive guy) raises
to $12, 3 callers after him including SB (a super old donk, down $600
already), UTG calls, i guess i have to call, hehe.
flop: AhQhTc (BEAUTIFUL!)
SB leads out $40 (he donks a lot of hands), UTG smooth calls, i tank and
call to see what MP will do.
MP quickly raises to $165 (ft!), all fold to SB, who instantly moves in for
$305, UTG folds.
damn, i love my max 12 outs to nuts but not this much.
i got $500 behind with $52 ... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 13 6个小时，没什么大牌，+$306，算扫了点晦气。
TT at MP，limp，LP old man raises to $12, short stack limp calls, i call,
another MP calls.
flop: JT8 rainbow.
short stack checks, i check, MP checks, LP bets $35, short guy shoves last ~
$25, i raise to $70, MP folds, LP counts my chips and pushes me all-in for
another $100.
LP got QQ, well, no 9 is enough.
then i got Qs5s at BB, a few limpers, LP (a creative guy) bets $12, so far
he has bet $12 for some ok shit, so i fold, 2 callers.
i am day dreaming about the 1% chance... 阅读全帖 |
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c******q
发帖数: 456 | 14 新年新气象，干得好！
6个小时，没什么大牌， $306，算扫了点晦气。TT at MP，limp，LP old man raises
to $12, short stack limp calls, ........
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 15 乱点评一下。我觉得你玩得太PASSIVE了，虽然这两手牌估计你怎么玩结局都差不多，
但如果是DEEP STACK就不能这样PASSIVE的玩了。前面KK那手5个LIMPER你还不RAISE，
别以为别人LIMP 2块你RAISE他就FOLD，我发现很多人喜欢LIMP，但你要RAISE 20 他们
也CALL，因为他们就是要看FLOP。如果你RAISE 了，别人再RERAISE你，你也知道到底
是什么回事。像你JJ这把就是，你只能靠猜靠感觉了，完全无处分析。大家都是CALL的
，你怎么知道他们有什么牌。TIGHT大哥能CALL25可能有大牌，但99 1010， AQ, AJ
SUITED的这种他也很可能会CALL，所以如果是我我会PRE-FLOP RAISE 到50，当然因为
你是SHORT STACK，所以估计最后也得输。但如果是DEEP STACK，这样PASSIVE打法就可
能很输钱，因为你不知道你的牌位置在哪里，像LOW FLOP你这样的牌也很难FOLD下去，
但你要PRE-FLOP RAISE了，大哥再RE-RAISE，那就很明显他有什么牌了，现在最怕就是
那种你RE-RAIS... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 16 Holy crap, Ed miller asked players to commit 100bb with TPTK in most cases?
Glad I didn't read his book.
Hand 2, straddlled $20, 5 callers, including you, basically a juiced limp
pot. TPTK would be such a marginal hand even on a normal table, not to
mention a LAG table on which players could have many holding. Q8, 68 is just
too normal hands LAG like to play, not to mention multiple sets.
Had it was heads-up, say you raised ($90-$100) in EP with the same hand,
with one caller, then you can feel ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 17 2-3 NL. Hero (650$): SLAG, Limp UTG with QcJc. 6 players to see the flop.
Villain at LP (350$) also limps. His image is kind of loose passive. Calls a
lot and folds to aggression. Never see him bluffs so far.
Flop Qd 9h 4s. Check to me. I bet 18. Villain and BTN call. All others fold.
Turn is a 6s. I bet 45$. Villain calls again without much hesitation. BTN
shakes his head and folds. River is a 7c. I check. Villain now looks at me
for about 10-15 seconds, and then he bets out 135$. What would yo... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 18 Last night in local casino. I limped UTG with J 10o. BTN limped also. He was
a young black guy who sat down 15 minutes ago. BB checked. I had both of
them covered. Flop Jd 10d 7h. Checked around. Turn was a 10h. BB checked,
and I bet 15$. Black guy and BB both called. River was a 3c. BB checked. I
thought for a minute and then checked (figuring they both missed, so better
just let the black guy bluff). Black guy immediately bet for 30$. BB folded.
I smiled at the black guy and said," you're bluf... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 19 5/10 LA commerce
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Hand 1:
Preflop: UTG+1 and MP limp, all fold to me at BB with 9s2s, I call. (we all
have about 1200~1500)
Flop: Js5s3s. I bet 30, UTG+1 surprisingly raise to 90, and MP called 90.
UTG+1 is loose preflop but not that aggressive after flop. It's the first
time I saw him raising on flop in 2 hours. MP is a regular LAG, but today he
is a bit unlucky, KK owned by AA twice. I called 90.
Turn: blank. check, check, check
River: 5d. I check, UTG+1 check and river bet 110... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 20 那天看了这帖没回，不过一直在想这里check turn后river bet bluff 到底好不好，
我觉得看人,看history， 如果对手玩得很差，基本读牌都不懂，我觉得可行。 对手稍
微会打点和读牌，我觉得不好，对手这里有个pair 都会叫的可能挺大的。这里有
position check turn 后，其实是把自己所有强牌的range 都check 没了。 我还是倾
向于bet turn, bluff most river. 对手这个turn 上在flop close action 的清况下
check, 也把自己的强牌都check 光了， 相反，我们在有位置的情况下， 因为筹码太
深，几乎所有强牌都可以在flop 上flat, 然后reraise/push turn。 所以在这种清况
下我们是可以bluff turn and river的, 如果都是blank。
这周末打牌抓了几个bluff, 我觉得对手在选择bluff 的spot 很不好。 特别是一些打
得还可以的对手, 可能平时和weak tight不会读牌的人打多了，乱bluff.
有一手牌，
我在sb comple... 阅读全帖 |
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h******n
发帖数: 233 | 21 I had similar beat a few times Friday night as well.
hand 1:
Hero: cutoff with 99
6 way limp
floped: A95r
checked to me, I bet $20, two caller, EP and MP
turn 3, I bet $30 against $72 pot, EP called
river T, checked to me, I bet $50, was check/raised by EP
EP showed TT
hand 2:
hero: btn with 33
5 way limp
floped KT3r, I was already counting my money...
EP bet $10, two caller before me, I raised to $30, EP called, all other
folded.
turn: T
EP check, I bet $40, called by EP
River: K
EP bet $50, I ... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 22 is very easy... lol.
trash 67o, family limped pot to me at CO, BTN calls too.
it's very funny i am having this pic in my head, "en, i haven't flopped
anything today, maybe this one is diff."
one by one, the dealer reveals the flop: 589 rainbow, holy moly.
some MP guy jokingly bets $5, one caller, i pop up small to $15 to keep them
in and build a pot.
BTN suddenly announces he's all-in for $800!!!
a little history about him: he claims he owns 5 gas stations (or he's rich)
in VA. he short buys in ... 阅读全帖 |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 23 Also in micro stake game, dont even consider range at all in limping pot.
Any one could have any 2 cards. Dont be surprised to see T2s T6s....
Again, do not go broke in limping pot...
call |
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p******e
发帖数: 327 | 24 1/2 NL
Hero $180
Villain $200ish, tight player
Preflop, 2 ppl limp, villain at SB raised to 12, hero at BB called with A9
clubs, one limp called.
Flop Q 9 3, two clubs(Q 3). vallain lead out $20, only hero called.
Turn A, vallain bet $35
what's the best play for hero?
1.fold
2.call
3.min-raise to $70
4.raised to other amount
5.all in
Please explain why. thanks |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 25 不是gutter,是open straight draw on the flop.pre-flop很多人limp 30,我在btn
call.sb lag raises to 210, bb加上所有limpers call,所以我也call了. flop 2 6 7
rb. pot 1200左右.大家都check, 直到我上一家LP bet 450, 我call, mp call. 其他
人flod了.turn就来了3,但前面两个都开始check了,我知道没人相信我.所以就bet了个
960来pretend stealing,结果mp push all in, lp snap all in also. 我拿了nuts我
还能干嘛?偷笑呗.mp 88, lp 22.整个过程就这么简单,也没什么好讨论的,在我看来都
是standard的.flop上我想raise的,但想着一是没人相信我,二是后面还这么多人,万一
谁push all in我就只能fold了,所以就flat call了.一定要讨论,我倒觉得拿88 和 22
的人都limp call pre很奇怪.sb都不知道连续raise了多... 阅读全帖 |
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r******j
发帖数: 8 | 26 这周末去了foxwoods，打了10hour+，起起落落，有些hand自认为打得不错，有些也
make了donkey call，贴几手印象比较深的牌出来，供大家讨论。
刚坐下没多久，拿到JJ在UTG，因为这桌人比较loose，所以打算limp后reraise。果然
一个MP LAG open 15, two callers。于是我make it 50 to go,希望他们fold。结果
original raiser fold,不过另外两个callers snap call，于是觉得大事不妙，我有点
overplay我的JJ了，加上position不好。flop出来一张K，只能check，第一个caller立
即bet 100，fold to me，我想了一会儿也fold了，raiser show了我AK，至少还算是个
nice fold。不过我觉得在UTG的地方不该这样打JJ，不知道大家怎么看？
接下来一段时间一直有draw，但是就是hit不上，连2次OESW都miss了，于是rebuy 200
，又一直down到35，都绝望了....一手AJ all in 赢了，于是有了接下来这手... 阅读全帖 |
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d******u
发帖数: 385 | 27 到赌场比较晚，做下去就玩了1个小时不到up了$56，刚够一个晚上的tournament $55
buyin.于是就退了报名参加MTT. 结果奋战4个小时倒在第6的位置 （前4名有钱）。于
是又回去打cash.
buy in $125. 刚上桌不久就来了一手 JJs at button. raise to $11, got 1 caller
(cutoff).
flop: J95 rainbow. cutoff lead out: $15. I thought for a while and flat
called here.
turn: 2. cutoff checked, then I put him on a draw， possible QT or 8T. I
weakly bet $25 and he called.
river: 5. cutoff lead out $45. I only have $78 left, and easy all in for me.
He immediately mucked his hand. yes, he likely has Q hi... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 28 July 4th Holiday playing NL 2/5;
A guy (redneck white guy) just joined buying full for $500. I had around $
700.
Previous hand, everyone limped, I sqeeze at cut off raised to $30 with 67s,
everyone folded and he called. Board was A, A, 6 rainbow. He checked, I bet
$45, he check raised me for $200. I quickly folded, and he didn't show.
A couple hands later he push all-in with another black, on A Q, 5 board. he
showed AhQh, black guy showed QQ. A cooler. But he did showing a very strong
hand in a... 阅读全帖 |
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D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 29 looks like almost everybody thinkt it is a fold..
another question:
At this exact situation,what hand would you make this call with?
JJ KK AA Qx 45 59 9T 66 77 88 Q6 Q7 Q8
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where is your separate line on call/fold?
July 4th Holiday playing NL 2/5;
A guy (redneck white guy) just joined buying full for $500. I had around $
700.
Previous hand, everyone limped, I sqeeze at cut off raised to $30 with 67s,
everyone folded and he called. Board was A, A, 6 rainbow. He checked, I bet... 阅读全帖 |
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r********t
发帖数: 1098 | 30 网上找了个文章，关于SPR的
http://www.cnpplayer.com/news.php?id=95
但是例子部分的牌被抹去了
请高手来填空，
书里一个最重要的概念叫做 SPR，Stack-Pot ratio，就是你余下的钱和锅底钱的比例
。比如，你有200元，Raise到20，一个人 call，锅底是40多一点，你还余下180，那么
SPR就是180除以40，大约4.5左右，不需要很精确。这是个很重要的数据。我的理解就
是他反映了你余下的钱和锅底钱的比例，根据这个比例，你可以更好的决定去留。
一般说来，一副对的牌，你希望这个值越小越好。比如对A，对K，如有可能，preflop
all in是最好的。当然不会每次都有这机会。所以，在打大对的时候，SPR最好小于4，
自己努力设计。你有200 chip的话，拿了对A，如果有信心有人跟你50的话，你就
raiae 到50，总之，越多越好。进去的越多，你余下的越少，flop以后就越好打，别人
也不敢，也不能去偷你。
AK，AQ这类大牌，希望的SPR是4-7，比大对稍大一些。因为你还需要去中牌，如果不中
，后面还可以退出，所以，不要陷入... 阅读全帖 |
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r********t
发帖数: 1098 | 31 例三：
在 under gun (第一个位置，枪口位置) 你拿了 .
你后面还有6个对手，数据说，6个对手，那么有26.6%的时候别人会有比你强的牌，如
果有9个对手会更多。如果你中了A，你很难从比你差到牌手中赢来很多钱。如果中了10
，又很难称其为 top pair，因为还有12个 overcard等你呢。
Limp in 如何呢。到现在差不多每一锅都有人 raise preflop，如果后面有人 raise到
20，很可能你和他单挑，你没有位置。单挑很忌讳位置差。而且如果对手有500，你们
单挑后到SPR正好差不多是10，对你玩对子非常不利。而且你的 .去靠 call 了raise
，经常是被统治的。
Raise 呢。Under gun raise，烂牌全吓跑，剩下的都是杀你的。如果有1，2个人靠
call 你，你没有位置。你中了对很难打，所以，扔牌是最佳打法。
记住，Undergun (第一个位置，枪口位置)扔掉 ..
例四：
Big blind 拿了 .
过去我和古风讨论过，这种小对子的预期怎么算。8把中一把，如果中了Set （三条）
能100%赢到话，那么能赢... 阅读全帖 |
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r********t
发帖数: 1098 | 32 例五：
Small blind拿了 ，
Under gun (第一个位置，枪口位置)扔了，后面有2人limp in，上把打得紧的选手
raise到30，cutoff上的 deep stake靠，button（按钮位置，最后的位置）扔了，到你。
先估计一下对手的持牌范围。打得紧的选手什么牌会 raise到30呢，应该不会是AJ，更
可能的是AA，KK，QQ，AK，遭遇了哪个都够你受的。即使他是对J，对10，对9，你也略
落下风。
而且你进来了，很可能招来4个对手。另外两个很可能因为你靠call 了他们也靠，如果
你中了A或者Q，去和4个对手打，凶多吉少。在这4个对手中，有2个是超过1000的，和
你差不多多。如果你靠了，锅底在120-150之间，SPR对这两个 deep stake 是8，对你
不利。同时你还要注意会不会有人在等待 limp-reraise呢。
这牌虽然舍不得，但扔是对的。
这一把牌，怎么打，就是区分你是职业到还是业余的标准。在这种情况下，AQ完全不如
对5.
例六:
你在button（按钮位置，最后的位置）拿了 ,
有两个对手出去抽烟了，另外两个扔了，到你。
虽... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 33 1/2NL, a normal (by normal, i mean semi nit or above average) player sitting
to my right has about $500, i have about the same.
we talk a lot about hands and other ppl for almost all night.
table is passive or a limp fest, after 2 maniacs busted, now this hand comes.
2 limpers, NG (normal guy) limps too, i bet $15 with AQs. in the past, AQs
is like the bottom of my $15 range and he knows.
others all give respect and fold, NG snap calls.
flop: QT5 rainbow.
he checks to me, i bet $25, he tanks and... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 34 1/2NL, table is back to OK before this cute black girl sits down with $700,
from a broken table.
in less than a round or 3 key hands, she's gone.
1) hand 1:
she limp calls MP's $20 from UTG, all fold, nobody makes $20 bet preflop at
this table.
flop: AdKcTd, she check calls $30.
turn: Ks, she check calls another $30.
river: As, she check calls $50.
MP stands up and asks loudly, "do you have pocket Ks?..."
what?!! by now, it's very clear she does NOT! and of course, every one knows
what MP has, A... 阅读全帖 |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 35 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 好久没贴啦 一开始一桌weak tight老头
4 limpers, btn 79o raise to 10$, 一老头怀疑的看了我一眼，靠。
flop a93r, c-bet, 15$,老头怀疑的看了我第二眼，靠。
turn 9, 25$; river blank， all in 45$, 老头aq升天。
6 limpers,qko MP,
flop k75hhx, check到我左手lag $13, 2 callers，想想q应该够了。$50 on top。lag
很不情愿的fold了，lp fold，sb instant all in $30+ on top。call。
SB k7，这么wet的board到你还不raise，脑残哥在我身上du。
夜渐深，随着玩家平均年龄的下降，pot平均size几何数般增加。我把我的位子换到了
最aggressive的大哥右手边，做好了随时squeeze的准备。
EP：AA,赫赫赫，大哥我来了。limp,大哥不负众望$12，2 callers，干到$52。大哥想
了想，靠。
flop: A62r。大哥其实是打的不错的人，所以要value只能induce bl... 阅读全帖 |
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D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 36 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 新手求指点 其实这两手都是很值得讨论的例子。
对现场低额来说，Open+C-betting 几乎是最有效的积累筹码的方式。
而KQ，AK就是最典型的这样的起手牌。后位的话最为理想。前位的话，
则要小心，适当混合一些Limp KQ，KJ，以及limp-3bet AK。
理想情况是有三到四个caller，如果heads up则打法更为细微。
如果每次都只有一两人call，我可能会降低一下open数额到12左右
以我的习惯，如果我在pre open，没有人3bet，C-bet几乎是100%
量以半池大概25$为准.
Bet如果赢锅，最好。
如果有人call，则turn的打法则比较精细，多数情况下针对紧手
Check-Call（如果hit），or Check Fold（如果miss）
如果面对的是比较难缠的对手，有可能看穿你的openCbet模式，
Flop call floating，此时有必要turn 开第二枪或者根据情况Check-raise。
第一手牌，turn size 有些大（我也常不注意这点，潜意识是怕人追上)，其实太大了
就进入了folded worse,trapped by better... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 37 two hands i played last week, small 1/2 ones, don't laugh, all right?
1) LP with black Ks, 3 limpers, they limp/call a lot, one loose guy makes $
10, i pop up to $40, all fold, loose guy calls. i got $250 left and he
covers me.
flop: 467 rainbow, he leads out $25, i call to see what he'll do again;
turn: 4, he quickly bets $65, i call;
river: 6, he shoves instantly, i study for a sec and call.
he turns 38s face up and cries.
2) limped family pot, i'm LP with J8s.
flop: A84, i have a backdoor flu... 阅读全帖 |
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k*******u
发帖数: 266 | 38 Loose players will limp with any suited cards, or even not suited.
1. Made two pairs - Q8,Q4,84,K8,K4. (According to your theory, if a nit have
KQ, he will fold to my shove - Oh my god, he shoved, he must have nuts here
- sweet! )
2. Suited connectors like 6h7h, 5h6h, JhTh, Jh9h
3. Suited K with Kh, or even any two hearts with Ah.
4. AK,KJ also may call here, bad players/gamblers may call with any K and
hope to catch his two pairs on the rivers.
Considering limp pot, light bet on the flop and th... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 39 钱圈：27人
剩下37人，
UTG 33/15鱼stack 40bb左右 limp，3 other limp with 20～30bb stack，哥button位
，88 31bb stack（排名中游） raise shove，请问是否合理 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 40 I think an important question is that what hands they limp-call preflop. Do
they only play small pocket pairs like this, or they play everything in this
way.
Hand one
Does he limp-call with AK? It is not very common for someone to play AK in
this way.
I would fold this hand, since his range is mainly set, straight draw, and
overpairs that beat you. Of course, if he has been doing that repeatedly and
you are sure he was on tilt, then shove is also an option.
Hand two
Does he raise flop with flush... 阅读全帖 |
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j*******g
发帖数: 331 | 41 我在chicago horseshoe有一手牌，跟你的情况差不多，这个完全没办法，这种很弱的
flop有人有个overpair就会打得很aggresive. 我当时是在bb limp in with 22, one
tight player and btn limped in as well. flop 7 5 2 rainbow. 我先bet 25，
tight player called, 这时候btn raise 75，我tank了半天fold了，tight player
went all in with around 120, btn called. 后面的turn跟river都没什么帮助，
tight player show jj，btn show A7。 我觉得bottom set early position 最好还是
check在行动。如果在late position，任何人有top pair大部分都会bet，这时候可以
在make a move, 像这种小概率的牌没办法再多想，跪了就跪了。
call
The |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 42 大家指导一下这几手牌
villains:
1.奇怪老头,bluffed river at least once, aggressive but not out of line, have
sizing problem
2.亚男,relative loose caller,probably not understanding position well,
otherwise solid
3.短筹驴,played short stack the whole time, vpip 90%, fof otf
4.二十女,TYPICAL weak passive female player
hero image, slightly loose, play position
1.hero AhQc, LP 12$, 老头call, (stack irrelevant)
95d3d flop, c/c
turn Td, 老头 20,hero tank call
river 3s 老头 35,hero?
2.hero 88, LP 12$, 老头 call, (stack irreleva... 阅读全帖 |
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k*******u
发帖数: 266 | 43 1. If you did not bet on the flop, turn you should either fold or raise, and
you should fold at least 80% of the time since based on your description,
you should have pretty good edge on this table, be patient and wait for
better opptunity. Keep calling is fine once a while, just do not do it too
often.
2. Trivial decision, call with certain percentage, >50% based on your
description of the guy
3. Limp pot I would prefer to lead out, check-raise will expose the strength
of your hand, might lose ... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 44 1.hero AhQc, LP 12$, 老头call, (stack irrelevant)
95d3d flop, c/c
turn Td, 老头 20,hero tank call
--- low level game, dont think too much here, fold in most cases, 3x raise
and rdy to push blank in river if villain respect you.
river 3s 老头 35,hero?
--- fold then, dont need to catch every bluff
2.hero 88, LP 12$, 老头 call, (stack irrelevant)
Ts3s3, 老头 c/call 15
turn 9d, c/c
river 4c, 老头 30,hero?
--- same like above
3.hero 3h3d MP limp, 7 callers, flop KsQs3d,
二十女 15,老头call,hero raise to ... 阅读全帖 |
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m******1
发帖数: 715 | 45 played a couple hours yesterday in the local casino.not much up and downs
but the hand right before I ready to go home;
full table 1/3, utg its an old rock, limp w a stack 700. hero is next w 280.
hole card KQo, limp. so as button, a young guy w 250. SB is also a young
action guy w stack of 300. action to SB, raise up to 19. called by UTG, so
as hero and button.
flop K94o. as good as hero can wish for,but KQ can be seriously dominated
hand,too. SB lead out 40,UTG fold.not sure what button is goi... 阅读全帖 |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 46 对了，这个live rule 我想大家都知道： 如果我这里snap call 60, UTG+1 has to
raise to 240.
我limp，是因为BTN always raise if nobody raise or call if somebody raise. 我
想limp然后reraise then headsup with BTN. 问题是我没有一开始raise，结果UTG+1
4 bet resaise, UTG+2 3 bet reraise, 在我tank的时候，UTG+1 又4 bet re-re-
raise. 所以我定位他们的range在JJ above了。 问题是PF只有AA beat 我的情况下，
要不要fold？ 还是call 60， then UTG+1 mandatory reraise to 240， then I
snap call or shove?
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 47 现在的tournament周赛我不太参加，第一因为人太少，第二是只打一桌太闷，第三是打
过的牌也没有太多可以讨论的地方
看这几个limp不limp的帖子讨论的这么热烈，不如每周固定找个时间大家一起打打6max
吧。
limit不一定要多高，如果是reg的话多打几桌，新人少打几桌。然后大家还可以把手牌
发上来一起讨论一下，我觉得挺好的 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 48 MDLive, 1/2NL, new table (combined broken ones), not much info on each,
everyone got a stack $300+.
all fold to me at cutoff, pick up black KK, decide to play tricky once, limp
, BTN limps, too. 4 way to the flop.
flop: JK8 rainbow, check around.
turn: Ac, now with a backdoor flush draw, SB bets $10, i call, BTN folds.
river: As, SB quickly grabs and bets big $65, we both have about same stack
$300 to begin with.
what to do? |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 49 夜已深，排队的人还很长。
闲着也是闲着，玩玩老虎机巴，还行，苍蝇肉也是肉。
上得桌来，一桌的loose aggressive和loose passive，还不错。
一个nit和LAG干上了，不过直到river，才火山喷发，泥马，nit AA，LAG 22，board
A22xx。俺深深的惋惜，不是为nit杯具，而是沉痛的想把俺fold掉的A放回deck，重发
一遍BBJ，行吗？
也罢也罢，牌事急不得，尿事等不得，赶紧下楼解决问题...
还是那台老虎机，位置并不好，中间估计也没人玩，可是这才不到半小时，此刻一萎缩
老头正在丛中笑，1400大洋的jackpot！俺的眼眶不觉有点湿润。
UTG $8，LAG mini 3 bets to $15，俺按钮一看，2s4s，这种牌如何使得？扔。flop有
点意思，Ks3s8h，两人却都check，turn 6s，还check，俺微微的有点遗憾。river 5s
，UTG突然毛驴式all-in $200+，静静地，静静地，俺在MDL有屎以来最大的一把牌走了。
旋即，俺在UTG一看，泥码，Q2o，多好的牌呀，一堆limp的，flop 228 flush... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 50 全身而退？有木搞错？
即使是错过如此多怪牌怪事的情况下(说实话一个短session里面这是头次发生)，要不
是俺过于保守，至少是个500BB的session。
桌子上一个中年萎缩白人，一直在撒钱，至少撒了1500。
俺刚上桌，对它还不熟悉，就看了一把showdown，丫是bets gutshot turn，river
hits but on a flush board，它只是check calls big，俺当时还觉得这厮有可能还比
较tight but creative。
1)接下来它UTG straddles $5 (MDL只能$5)，2 callers，俺在CO，KQo，打个$15
build pot，3人全call。
flop: 457 with 2 spades，check to me，俺心想装就装到底吧，$35，它和另一个跟。
turn: Qh，check to me，还好还好，有点真货了，打$55，全跑了，对它的判断还没有
改变。
2)紧接下一把，还是KQo，它和一圈limp的，俺说好，换换吧，也limp。
flop有点意思，KQ5 rainbow，check to me... 阅读全帖 |
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