f********d
发帖数: 796 | 1 第二次去打现场，第一次是刚学打牌第一个月（输的惨）。这次打牌接近一年，再次去
感受了以下。
session时常3小时，成绩是水上100刀（50bb），考虑到大概一小时20手牌，60手牌的
结果吧。
拿到的大牌有QQ两次，JJ一次，AKo两次。没有拿到过AA KK。
桌子上limper非常多，基本上除了我外很少有limper惩罚者。我在后位面对limper在15
-20刀之间试水，几次过后，桌上的反映不是大家变紧，而是有人开始拿大口袋对子
limp。坐我左边的中年白男两次拿着QQ limp。
抽水其实挺高的，桌上只有一个明显的赢家，一个亚洲帽子男（估计是中国人），后面
会讲几手他的牌
打了3个大于100bb的pot。赢了两个输了一次。
牌例1：
hero is at CO with Ah9h, 3limper，hero open 15。 utg中年白男 calls。 heads
up。
flop is 7dJdJx. utg check, hero check.
turn is 7x, utg bet 20. hero call.
river is 6x, utg b... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 2 it's kind of hard to get a quick early doubleup if I don't limp in a lot. I
feel I can't raise too much because people will still call you and it's very
hard to win after flop. Should I just limp, limp, limp, then push allin if
I hit something (2-pair or up will be good. TPTK might be enough too)?
into
bubble |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 3 And some experience.
Today, I saw one guy limp utg, my impression is AA.
I am in the blinds, flop top pair, but easy muck for me.
Small blinds go allin after hitting one pair, which is stupid.
The guy limp utg has AA.
If I have 77 in the blinds, I will not go allin directly.
Several days ago, I played an MTT, fryking2 watched at that time. Utg limps, I am in small blinds, have qq, I repop to 5bb. utg limp raises to 15bb.
I think a little while, and mucked.
fryking2 said it is a bad muck. But I g |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 It really sucks sometimes to play these low buy-in turbo games. 12 people
left (9 people gets paid). EP Chip leader 20k chips (running vpip 50 14)
limp in. Another guy limp in behind. I got 9k ( rank 7th or so) chips and
blinds was running 1200. I shoved with KK and Chip leader called with JQ. I
have no idea what the heck he is thinking to limp and call shove with JQ. I
can almost live with him shove JQ EP. but limp calling is really retarded
honestly.
I don't even need to double up on this id |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 5 A few hand to share. let me know what you would do
NL10 rush
hand 1:
I was dealt 9c7c on button.
EP limp in, MP limp in. I limp too. sb limp, bb check
flop 6h7h9h
all check, i bet pot 50c. BB call everyone fold.
turn 10c,
bb check, i check
river 9d.
bb lead pot size bets 1.5$, i have around 5$ left
what do I do? what does bb have?
hand 2
I was dealt 10c10d on bb.
CO raise 4X, everyone folds to me, I call
flop
A 10 6 rainbow
I lead 60c, CO raise to 1.60$, i call
turn 2,
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 1/2NL，开局一塌糊涂。
1) hand 1:
AKs at BB，一桌人limp，俺“squezee”到$17，UTG这老哥是新来的，5把以前让俺
check raise Txx flop，这把有点气不顺，恶狠狠的看了俺一眼，call。
flop: 899 rainbow，俺c-bet pot，老哥盯着俺看半天，说你不可能hit了这个flop(说
得没错)，他说自己有一对，俺就挑逗他，“你有一对你的话就应该call”，老哥想了
半天，call。
turn：A。俺接着刚才的势头，$80。老哥all-in $220。俺过于冲动，犯了低级错误，
没有观察这家伙的剩余stack，这$80给自己搞得很被动，骑虎难下。
花了一分钟，在dealer叫表之前，哭着call了，老哥9To，俺面如毛驴。
2) hand 2:
6d6h at MP, bet $11，老哥和另一个鱼跟。
flop: KdJd2d。
鱼和俺check，老哥bet pot。老哥自从那一把以后，一直在观察俺是否会on tilt，呵
呵，还以为俺不知道...后来玩了N圈，发觉俺好像没受什么影响，倒和俺惺惺起来，很
多把牌都sha... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 7 When I say it is ok to limp does not mean it is better to limp.
To be a better player in live game, you should definitely raies more with
hand as strong as AJo A10s especially in position. In general, when you are
ahead of villian's range, you should always raise, it is never wrong. Now
when someone is limping Ak AQ ep, that could pose some problems for you
raising with those weaker hand. But you have position, so i think it is ok.
Raise it up. limp less. When a hand is not good enough to raise,... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 8 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 昨晚一把牌 如果桌子wild，你limp等着4bet也不是不可以。不过UTG被人3bet，然后回过头来被个
limp的人4bet，基本上你的牌就明了，KK都不像，只能AA。
所以你limp后，我觉得要准备直接4bet allin，弄1-2个loose的call进来然后就看运气
了。
直接raise是正常做法，准备和UTG heads up，最佳情况是他re-raise，然后你直接
allin完事。如果后面还有个把limp的，更好。
告诉我他有pocket QQ. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 9 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
player (Hope is the best thing) 于 (Sun Nov 13 17:40:20 2011, 美东) 提到:
继续提高版上人气，也许老大可以搞个有奖征文，
大家说说自己得意的bluff，要把bluff 的思路讲清楚。 然后大家投票，得票最多者
奖励30 个包子。
当然，也后也可以讲best laydown，best thin value bet 一类，但俺觉得还是best
bluff 最刺激。
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nanpa (nanpa) 于 (Sun Nov 13 18:11:42 2011, 美东) 提到:
算不上最好的bluff，但还是很刺激，上周末的home game， 1/2
EP, raise to $7，CO call, button call，
hero SM 35o
$7 在这个桌上是个比较小的raise,后面两个limp应该也只是中/小对或SC之类的牌... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 10 Agree. it is a easy fold after being raised again postflop
Raising is fine preflop, depends how deep you are and how the table had
been playing. If EP players limp with AA and KK, QQ,AK etc a lot, you do not
wanna raise it and face tough decision after being reraised.
Once I played a 5-10NL game, a loose and tricky old guy limped UTG, MP
limped, I got QQ at SB, thought about making a big raise, but I noticed that
that was the first limp of UTG, so just called. Flop came K blank blank. ... 阅读全帖 |
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h**n
发帖数: 981 | 11 新手骗包子贴。
Went to WV Hollywood with my boss today, each of us end up loss 300 bucks.
The Good: live game with much higher stake(1/2nl) than the normal $20 buy in
game is actually not that scary. Hollywood changed to rake which is good
for newbie like me who play really tight.
The bad: Other than the 4-5 hand I did win, couldn't hit anything in the 4
hour session played. Totally messed up on hand that would win me some money
and the only hand I played kind on tilt actually got me ~$70.
Some interes... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 12 I didn't post hands very often recently. I am playing old-man poker so many
hands were not that exciting. Just routine. Win a little money here and
there. Don't remember I sucked out sb. in recent months. My playing style
nowadays decides when the money got all-in, usually I would be ahead. A few
times I gambled and was behind, I never hit anyway.
So last Friday I was in Borgata AC. Yes, it was the Borgata. Won like $300
in 2 hours playing NL2/5. Table broken.
I went to NL1/2 , certainly my stac... 阅读全帖 |
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r********t
发帖数: 1098 | 13 例四：
你在 cut off（关煞位，按钮位置前面的一个位置）拿了方片 .
刚才AJ 赢你那个家伙搞到15，到你，该怎么办？
刚才刚扔了同花 .， 比 .更差，应该扔吗？
不但不扔，还要raise。
情况变了，刚才你没有位置，现在有了。刚才的SPR太小，现在大了。如果真能单挑到
话，你偷的成功率会很高。
这个家伙有1000，如果你干到50，很可能成了单挑。那样，锅里100，你余下900，SPR
在9左右，很好。特别是刚才第一把赢，raise到50，亮出的是对K，他肯定记忆犹新，
就这么定了。
你干到50，出乎预料，那个不寻常到老头靠了50，这家伙也靠了。
Flop ，不同花。你啥也没有，但是应该bet （下注），一个强的 bet （下注）可以
打跑除了top pair的任何东西。
你bet （下注） 125，老头前思后想了半天扔了，小伙子晃晃对7也扔了。捡了100多，
不错。
例五：
你在 hijack拿了黑桃
(button 前面的叫做 cut off, 再前面叫做 hijiack)，
一个weak player limps from under gun（第一... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 14 两个都是女的.都是regular. It seems that everyone know them. 就叫她们A and B
吧. They definitely know each other very well too Last time when i went,
someone told me that A is arguable the best 1/2 player (player, not female
player) at parx.
we just started this new table. player A sitting across the table from me.
player B sitting 1 seat to my left. So i was at button with QJs.
A limped EP, another limp. I raised 12$. B called. A limp raised to 35$.
I never played with them before. Did not like the limp... 阅读全帖 |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 15 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - hands 1. limped to hero in the sb, limped w/ 9Jo
flop: 789r, hero lead 12$, 2 callers, btn ss villain a ship w/27$ total;
hero reraise to 55$ total, others folded
turn: black, river T, villain mucked after hero showed down, claiming had TT
.
2. limped to hero at CO w/ 96s raised to 10$, c,c,c。flop 236r, checked to
CO-1 villain b lead 12$ into a 40+ pot, hero raise to 36$, f,f,villain tank
call,
turn: Jr, CO-1 check, hero ship the rest of villain b's ~45$, villain b tank
call, river: blank, villain b s... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 16 换了个modem，网络终于正常。可又是悲摧的一天，心态还算好，几把牌可能有问题。
1 6k 33
2 4k 5.5 + 5.5 + 5.5
3 5k 11
4 5k 60 + 60
5 6.5k 33
6 freeroll
7 25k 11
8 35k 60
9 35k 33
1） AJo 20bb 3bet shove EP 2bb open, lost to qq, knockout
2） EP 5bb open, hero reraise to 11bb with AA, LP pro cold shove 110bb, EP
allin call, hero allin call, pro kk, EP TT, flop KTx, pro win, rebuy. 22
limp, flop 245r, set over set lost to the same TT guy, rebuy, 15bb aqo sb
pot squeeze, CO limp/call, flop kjxr, hero cbet pot size as... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 17 1 1K 11
2 750 3.3 $7.78
3 1.5K 11
4 1K 11
5 1.5K 3.3+3+3 $28.75
6 3K 11+10+10
1号，UTG+1,TJs 12bb open shove，take down。UTG A7o open shove 14bb into QQ,
knockout
2号，大盲位88 14bb 3bet shove rock 2.1x open + a flatter，take down。换桌，
第一把，UTG 16bb open shove with A9o，被两家AJo call到，suckout！紧接着第二
把，AKo，接了16bb 和8bb的两连推，hold！wow！card dead + busy with other
tables ＝ auto ITM，呵呵。hero 大盲位，55 10bb stack call EP 5bb shove>A9s。
UTG+1 TJo 13bb shove，take down。换桌，UTG 33，15bb，看到大小盲均... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 18 我现在打牌基本上像白开水，没什么上上下下的，打得比较稳，所以也没什么好讲的。
周末 Foxwoods 给了一个房间, 所以就去了玩了两天。头一天玩了几个小时 2/5，没什
么大 pot ，比较 standard, 用什么牌赢的都忘了，结果 up 600- 走人。
晚上吃完 buffet，想去 poker room 再玩会儿时间，赢钱了就怕把钱输回去，就打 1/
2 算了，1/2 的人水平比较次，波动也比较小，赢不了大钱也不会输大钱。
一路上碰到几个白妞，穿着曝露，一看就是去开 party。看到赌场里白妞去开 party
的时候大把，不过要么脸长的像猪，要么身材像猪。今天看到的几个倒是要身材有身材
，要脸蛋有脸蛋。旁边男的却都是老黑。哥咽下口水，f**k, 这辈子泡漂亮白妞就算了
，哥是只能拿好人卡，当好男人了。等哥下辈子投胎当风流男，要当瓜瓜，宗瑞，冠希
，要泡好多好多妞，白妞，亚妞，棕妞，好多好多好多好多。。。
题扯远了。下面是一些当晚的经历：
1. 桌上要么是 nit, 要么是极 loose。坐我左边白老头是 loose 中的 loose，我给他
搞了一把 call 我 $12 A... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 19 星期天去赌场，Action 很无聊，随手拿了一本赌场免费提供的 Card Player Magezine
. 一般 Card Player 里的文章都以 touney 为主，很少有关 cash。 这次有一篇文章
引起了我的注意，是采访一个 Semi-Pro 打 cash 的，名字忘了。他主要讲他打 cash
，看到很多时候 player 在 river 有 strong hand，但因为不是 nuts 或者 close to
nuts，不敢 value bet 或者 value raise。比如说拿 flush 到 river board pair
了，不管什么情况，很多人都只是 call，甚至只是 check，原因只是因为“board
paired”了。
这我倒同意，我也看到很多这种情况，结果 river miss 很多 value。
哥于是在星期一的 session 主动演练了一下，结果自己搞不清了。
Hand 1: NL 1/2 ，我 btn $400 stack, 对手是一 loosy goosy 韩国哥。韩国哥被我
归类为 semi calling station，prefl... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 20
post
老版主，如果桌子非常松又不凶，size不大的open都会有3个左右的caller，且这帮人
都不是fit or fold，加上，该玩家的起手牌range不大，这里没有point来limp啊。8-
way的pot，flop一出，他已经不用reevalue了，你说呢？
另外，从平衡形象的角度来讲，一个玩家limp AA是以risk当前的一手好的起手牌的代
价，来平衡之后拿其他牌来limp的range。对于tag玩家来说，本来open的机会就不多，
每把进局，对手都不会掉以轻心，反过来看，用AA limp来平衡同样没有point。
回到我这个spot，我没有办法完全排除对手拿着qq+/ak，但是他拿着这个范围里的牌的
odds是在是太小了，前提是综合各因素在判断他level的时候，我给了他credit。 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 21 长远看 limp call Ax OOP 是肯定 -EV，这点打牌有一些时间的都应该是无疑问的。但
我觉得你这里是假设我打牌每次起手牌都 limp call OOP 这么干，然而实际上却并不
是如此。
这里变成很有趣的一个讨论的话题： 包括 FryKing 都在问, 你既然玩 A7s ， flop
nut frush draw, 你不玩下去，那你 limp call 干吗？ 我的回答已经很清楚了： A7s
limp call 是一个错误，但如果你去 call 人家 150 on 125 的 bet，是更大的错误
。第一个错误让你损失 6 个 bb， 第二个错误就是 30 bb 了。poker 中错误总是在
componding, 所以起手牌和位置真的很重要，但我认为第一个错误并不是你犯第二个错
的理由，将错就错并不是 winning strategy.
即使你 allin ，人家的 effective stack 600 , 你也不过是 underdog just get
right price to shove. 你如果真的把 poker 当生意做，人家总是把东西按市场价卖
给你，虽... 阅读全帖 |
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f******k
发帖数: 34 | 22 呵呵，要是脑袋正常的时候是不会 limp in 的。当时已经凌晨三点，桌子缺人，大家
打得没劲，我两次提出来 break table。刚上桌时场面火热，我 JJ bet $15，四个
caller。这个时候，我 AA bet $15，全都扔了。整个桌子很低潮，都是 limp in。谁
要是再稍微精神点儿，绝对可以偷很多 blind。
不过你说的这个已开始就注定了，我深表同意。这手牌，和另外一手牌，我都考虑过是
否要进。都进了，都输了。
utg这么小的牌limp in一开始就注定了。每次我在这种情况下limp in，只要对手稍微
强点，就会fold。不过你也没打错。unlucky而已。
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 23 这牌有什么好想的，你把所有的钱放进去的时候 huge favor，这正是你想要的，作为
牌手来说只能管这么多了。
另外不用管人家说什么正 EV，负 EV 的。J8 suited 前面 limp 在 live small stake
桌很普遍。live poker 一个小时打 20 手牌撑死，而且大多数时候都是 limp
festival，如果全按照 poker 理论严格来打的话，一个 session 5-6 小时，你可能什
么牌都打不上。所以你有时候必须 mix up，尝试在前面 limp，争取看一些 cheap
flop。
但如果你位置后面有人比较 aggressive，喜欢 raise，push on flop 的话，那你才需要
小心了，打这种小 suite connector 才真正是负 EV，那你任何情况下都不要轻易
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f********d
发帖数: 796 | 24 本人从2016年初开始打牌，一直努力学习。目前主打bovada 9max NL50.我会把每天有
意思的牌普记录下来，有打的臭的，打的好的。大家一起讨论学习。
从7月开始用软件记录自己的成绩，目前好像是5bb/100 hand，大概2-3万手牌吧。之前
在水木上贴牌普，以后两边一起更新。
hand8
好久没来了，发两手nit fold
hero has KJo MP, V open 3bb EP. Hero call. both has around 100bb
flop JJ8 R, V check, hero bet 60% pot. V call
Turn 4, now board has two d. V check , hero bet 70% pot. V call
River is 7d, V shove allin. Hero tank fold
这个对手有点疯，但是我读他可能是88，9dTd这样的牌。
hand 9
hero has AKo MP open 3bb，V is in CO call the open. both 100b
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f********d
发帖数: 796 | 25 本人从2016年初开始打牌，一直努力学习。目前主打bovada 9max NL50.我会把每天有
意思的牌普记录下来，有打的臭的，打的好的。大家一起讨论学习。
从7月开始用软件记录自己的成绩，目前好像是5bb/100 hand，大概2-3万手牌吧。之前
在水木上贴牌普，以后两边一起更新。
hand8
好久没来了，发两手nit fold
hero has KJo MP, V open 3bb EP. Hero call. both has around 100bb
flop JJ8 R, V check, hero bet 60% pot. V call
Turn 4, now board has two d. V check , hero bet 70% pot. V call
River is 7d, V shove allin. Hero tank fold
这个对手有点疯，但是我读他可能是88，9dTd这样的牌。
hand 9
hero has AKo MP open 3bb，V is in CO call the open. both 100b
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j******n
发帖数: 21641 | 26 【 以下文字转载自 Reader 讨论区 】
发信人: wonderlich (左岸，遁去), 信区: Reader
标 题: Antichrist: A Discussion
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 18 03:25:53 2011, 美东)
Antichrist: A Discussion
Posted In Featured,Web Exclusives
Dense, shocking, and thought-provoking, Lars von Trier’s Antichrist is a
film which calls for careful analysis. This web-exclusive exchange between
Film Quarterly editor Rob White and philosopher Nina Power is meant as a
first attempt at the in-depth debate that this major film deserves.
SPOILER WARNING:... 阅读全帖 |
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w********h
发帖数: 12367 | 27 Antichrist: A Discussion
Posted In Featured,Web Exclusives
Dense, shocking, and thought-provoking, Lars von Trier’s Antichrist is a
film which calls for careful analysis. This web-exclusive exchange between
Film Quarterly editor Rob White and philosopher Nina Power is meant as a
first attempt at the in-depth debate that this major film deserves.
SPOILER WARNING: Please be aware that the piece assumes familiarity with
Antichrist and does contain major plot spoilers. For ease of reference, a
synop... 阅读全帖 |
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y***e
发帖数: 676 | 28 http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-02-26-wisconsin-deadli
Deadline nears to clear Wisconsin Capitol
MADISON, Wis. — The hundreds of people who have called the Capitol home
these past two weeks last week have formed a village, demonstrating a common
determination to sleep on marble, fight for a common cause and make a heck
of a lot of noise.
People here have papered the Capitol's pillars and walls with thousands of
signs, and they've run stands to distribute food and first aid. They've
cond... 阅读全帖 |
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v******p
发帖数: 700 | 29 这样说吧，我先不排除你的车有traction control之类的高级控制系统可以强行reduce
你的torque或者直接进入limp模式 （VW常见），因为你有被踩着刹车的感觉。虽然可
能性不大
关键问题：
你重新把车打着，开出去100m并踩着油门的时候（就是你觉得你的车被刹车的时候），
转速跟着上不上？
转速上：那么就说明你的engine的动力根本就没传到轴子上，则基本transmission。
转速不上：踩油门就和没踩一样，这个就有些trick了，一般来说结合你之前出现的问
题，有可能是你的电脑读到你coolant的信号，强行reduce你的动力 （again，先假设
你的车有这个系统可以override你的控制）或者进入limp模式（有可能解释你的车为什
么重启之后就好一会儿）。
你需要检查你的coolant sensor，大部分车只有一个sensor，两条线，一条给电脑，一
条给你的仪表盘，有可能中间哪里出了故障。也有不少车有2个单独的sensor（比如
ford一代蒙迪欧based car， Focus/Contour/Cougar），所以既然你仪表显示没有问题
，那么问... 阅读全帖 |
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w********8
发帖数: 73 | 30
这样说吧，我先不排除你的车有traction control之类的高级控制系统可以强行reduce
你的torque或者直接进入limp模式 （VW常见），因为你有被踩着刹车的感觉。虽然可
能性不大
>>> 首先感谢你的答复， 我的车确实有traction control， 过去按traction按钮,
仪表盘有个灯会亮，昨天我按了一下，好像现在不亮了
关键问题：
你重新把车打着，开出去100m并踩着油门的时候（就是你觉得你的车被刹车的时候），
转速跟着上不上？
转速上：那么就说明你的engine的动力根本就没传到轴子上，则基本transmission。
>>>转速跟上，疯狂空转
转速不上：踩油门就和没踩一样，这个就有些trick了，一般来说结合你之前出现的问
题，有可能是你的电脑读到你coolant的信号，强行reduce你的动力 （again，先假设
你的车有这个系统可以override你的控制）或者进入limp模式（有可能解释你的车为什
么重启之后就好一会儿）。
你需要检查你的coolant sensor，大部分车只有一个sensor，两条线，一条给电脑，一
条给你的仪表... 阅读全帖 |
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i******e
发帖数: 91 | 31 看到大家讨论，以前看到的文章：
下面是俺使用格牢靠23碰到的问题，也是俺要把手里的G23卖掉的原因。 这毛病不是
limp wrist，也不是老生常谈的KB(kaboom)。。。
俺手里的G23是08年底买的。 以前有过一把G32，一直没发现任何问题。 格牢靠在俺眼
里一直以为是最不“敏感”的枪，也就是说，什么样的子弹都能打，从来没有FTF，FTE
等等问题(除了limp wrist以外)。 最近发现原来格牢靠的40口径的枪，有个很严重的
问题： 如果你装一个枪灯在导轨上(俺用的是Streamlight TLR1s)，就很有可能出现
failure to feed。 特点是子弹nose dive，弹头顶在弹夹前壁上，根本没举起来。
Streamlight网站上的FAQ里，有提到这个问题http://www.streamlight.com/faq/，但他们没说明白为什么，也没说清楚解决的关键。。。
格牢靠的枪用的塑料枪身，在射击中会轻微变形flex，减轻后座对手的冲击，这个我们
都知道。 但Gaston在设计这个“变形”的时候，留的tolerance公差非常小，那个变形
不能有丝毫的... 阅读全帖 |
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n****u
发帖数: 1200 | 32 没错，他的握姿是不好。
可是人家是双手握枪好不好，limp wrist一般是单手握+力量弱才会出现，你看视频上
测试limp wrist的基本上都是只用个大拇指来挡一下，连握都不握
视频里这手够粗的吧，握姿不好，枪也没怎么跳吧，要是这样还怪到limp wrist上，那
真是交流基准不同了。
天朝枪本来就是缺省使用天朝弹的，设计时根本没考虑圆头弹的问题，所以出问题很自
然。天生没有为这个目的做任何考虑。倒是津津乐道于手枪弹的破甲能力。
题？ |
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z*****g
发帖数: 85 | 33 1. Loose-aggressive 60/120 game. UTG limp in, UTG +1 limp, I limp in with
K9o (K heart). BB is a black football player super loose, super aggressive,
and like to bluff, who raised. everybody called. Flop came 368 with 2 hearts
, BB bet, UTG folded, UTG+1 folded, I raised, BB 3 bets, I called. turn is
the 7h, he bet again, I called. river is Qd, he bet again, I called. He
marked the hand, I won with K high. I think that I played this hand bad, I
should raise the turn, and led out on the river, or |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 34 also, AA's power depends on:
1)ppl, that's why i keep notes of a lot of players about their tendencies, e
.g., always raise with Ax, small PP, limp with TT to see a low card flop,
etc.
2)position, i raise from LP most of time, but also limp from like UTG at a
LAG table, wait for someone to open and then jump on top. if it fails, i
would be very careful post flop.
3)image, i always try to get a feel how ppl play against my bet/raise/
position in recent hands. if i limp too much and "weakly" lay d |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 35 ABC poker is hard to win on 1/2 6max game now.
suppose you limp with 77, people will repop you with all sorts of cards with
position especially button, aq, kq, 88, 78suited, it is very hard to play,
and you can not represent too much if you limp.
if you play ABC poker, when you get trips, and you limp with 77, and call a
big reraise, I do not think regular will pay you too much. Even they hold
over pair or top pair top kicker.
77 is fancy hands, if you do not raise, and other ppl call you with p |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 36 Sometimes 2-3 people limp in when I'm on button or cutoff with hands like
A3o. I choose to fold rather than raise or limp in. Is this a right play? I
worry that raise may get me in trouble and limp in may get me in a bigger
trouble (for example, hit an A on flop but it's only the second or even
third best hand).
If I raise 4BB, I know almost for sure at least two people will call me (if
not reraise). And playing A3 multi way is too hard even with position. How
do you think?
.
Unless |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 37 想了一下。
rush poker里面如果不是太烂的人，在UTG+1这种位置limp的，多半至少有call一个LP
3.5x+的不错牌，甚至有可能limp raise。
出现全部fold to BB的情况，恐怕多半不是他喜欢的，这牌很难搞出名堂。
flop:
你bet pot，他只是跟，还是说明有货，而且觉得你并没有什么货。
turn:
这个As非常有意思，提高他的牌力的可能性远比你的大，你check也符合正常怕A的一大
堆牌。而他call了flop pot bet，而这里不bet结束战斗，比较可疑。
如果他有你比较怕的AcXc，这里出现A不bet也比较不合理，因为他必须比较确信后面还
可以搞到value(从一个BB身上？)
river:
也很有意思，flush和open ended都中了，而他只mini-raise，这个是bluff的可能
性在这种级别几乎为零。
那他不会有AcKc, AcQc(这牌preflop可能不会太limp)，AcJc，最好也就是AcTc，而
Ac7c以下的牌基本可以排除(根据前面3步打法，尤其是turn)。
AcX (X非草花)或者AX(都不是草花)，turn |
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H*******n
发帖数: 914 | 38 3x or 4.5x?
感觉4.5x把人全赶走了，不管是ep or lp，
现在很多人ep和mp， AA，AK，KK都是limp in。
LP可能会raise一些，但是也是不会超过4x，因为那样全跑了，如果limp in的人太多另
说。
我现在的打法是什么牌（AA，AK，KK，AQ，QQ，JJ）都趋向limp in了，hit到就成，
hit不到就跑，
premium hands有人raise最好，那样可以smooth call or reshove，没有我就看看flop
再决定。
因为我的策略就是mini buyin and double up，
collect blinds其实效率很低，因为rushgame里面大家对raise都很敏感，
很多人不在乎丢blinds，你和他和平看牌反而可能让其放松警惕。 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 39 (6) "I am ALL-IN."
The game continued and I played my regular tight game. I usually
play rush 25 on-line with vpip of 12 7. I was probably pretty close on the raise rate but
with a little more on the limp rate. I even limped under the gun a few
times with suited connectors because I had my big plan in the future.
Soon another hand came up with 1 limp ahead, the Russian raised to 12$ LP
and Cutoff called. I looked down and saw one black and one red rocket.
Pocket As! No need to slow |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 40 "Concept No. 20: Sometimes you should limp behind limpers with
pocket aces. In limit hold ’em, you’d never want to limp behind other
limpers
holding pocket aces, but in no limit (with deep stacks) it can sometimes be
a good play. You’d do this if you have opponents yet to act who like to raise
a series of limpers with weak hands.
“Deep limping” with aces balances your play and traps overzealous preflop
stealers. You can reraise the raise (even better if someone calls the raise
before
you act), a |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 41 Another interesting hand.
Seat 4 limped in with KKs. everyone limp and I limp too at SB with 6c8c.
Flopped two pair, 6 8 Q. No draw. Seat 4 checked, Seat 5 bet. I slow-played
two pair just flat called.
Seat 4 check raised 3 bet. Seat 5 fold, I re-raise, he called. Turn I bet 2/
3 pot. He called, river was a J. I put him on a Q, afraid he had QJ . Just
bet 1/3 pot. He tanked and then called.
Cost him 2/3 stack just slow-played KK preflop. |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 42 I don't like the idea of limping in unopened pots. Unless you want to limp
and reraise. If you limp, your range is so transparent. It's standard for
later position to raise 4-5xbb to isolate you. Now you have to actually pay
more to see the flop if you raised yourself. Most time, you probably gonna
fold to a flop Cbet. It's just -EV play. Even you make a set, it's pretty
hard to stack a good player out of position. |
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S*********e
发帖数: 865 | 43 遇到了cmis91.不过可惜大家时间不凑巧没空一起玩
就在四家赌场玩了，1/3和1/2的，wynn，bellagio，mgm，caesar，
bellagio和wynn送钱的人最多。想到哪儿写到哪儿吧；
wynn的几首牌。
我有80左右，mp limp in with 8Jo, flop 9d10dQc， 前面都check，我bet 12.
两家call，turn 6d，前面两家check，我bet 22. 一家call。
river blank，前面check 我all in，那家call了，是3h8h，8 high，大家都惊呆了。
这位是个印度年轻女。可能不太懂规则。
紧接着一把我utg，limp in with JsKs，一家call，btn是个比较loose的亚裔，
raise到20.全fold，我call。 flop As7s8h, 我check 亚裔bet 35，我大概130左右。
我直接说all in，他想了一下说，i need to gamble，call了。turn 9s，river Qs
我有一次刚上桌，100 buy in，几手之后剩90多。
我btn Ac8c ... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 44
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迷惘了。。。
pf: 20/16 正负1
大多数情况下
77+ pfr in position or limp/cold call
22～66 limp or cold call(sometimes)
small SC(67~TJ) pfr to steal or fold（mostly） or cold call/limp(rarely)
Axs、JQs+、KJs+ pfr to steal and fold in rest cases
pf 3bet range:
jj+、AQs+（mostly fold to 4bet）、AKo
4bet range：QQ+ and some AKo oop
flop cbet > 2/3 if heads up, slightly > 1/3 if more ppl in
turn：honest in most cases
river： want to show down 25%， won money at show down 45%
对数据显示比较紧的 可能稍许多点2nd barrel和pf steal 但是fold to rerais... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 45 Recently I played live games a lot, most on 2/5 table.
The casinos I frequents includes the ones in AC, PA and CO. IMO, the player'
s skill level on 2/5 table are a little better than 1/2 game, but it is not
sth you can't handle. I was doing well this year, only had one losing
session this year. I see a lot of players, fishes, nit (myself included),
solid TAGs. But very few times I see very tricky players. I saw one during
last weeks' session in Sands, pa.
It was a black guy on my right(which me... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 46 i still don't know what the HELL this is, lol, to be honest.
yes, i could understand to limp with KK in MP for either a limp-raise or hide
the strength pre-flop (if all limping), but then AA guy has the same thought
too?
ok, let me take a step back and try to be open minded, and take a flop for
both of them.
then flop should worry at least one of them somehow, draw heavy (if they
know this thing at all) and multi-way, someone already bets out, at least
one of them should start to do something, r... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 47 I played a similar hand Friday. At the time I had almost $600 dollars stack.
AAs in early position, I limped and want to trap sb. Unfortunately the table
all limps and there was 7-way limp, holy crap.
More holy crap, the board came 2s 3d 4d. I don't even have a diamond. I just
f**king saved the c-bet and went check. There was a bet, a raise and a
tight Chinese guy call. I sighed and threw my AAs into muck. Turn 4s, the
raiser went all-in for $178 and Chinese guy tanked and then called. River
ano... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 48 2， 我前两天看到一篇文章讲limp/reraise AA，KK的话很难maximize profit
感觉不是一个很好的preflop策略，现在大家都知道EP limp/reraise一定是monster了
很多人就会call to get your stack
cash
Turn was a 9, completed straight for KJ, I checked again, he bet 50$, what
to do
Limped
he
got |
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c******q
发帖数: 456 | 49 A few hands played at PARX yesterday, all on 2/5 table. I am just describing
how the hands played to kick off the discussion, and will share my thoughts
later.
My image on the table was toward to TAG.
Hand 1: I had QTo at button, a few limpers, so I limped as well, both SB and
BB called, 6 ways to the flop. Flop was AQT with QTd. CO led out with $10
bet, I called and another player called. Turn was 6h (a blank), CO betted $
25, I called, the other player folded. The river was Js, CO checked to m... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 50 QQ folded to you with a 150$ stack? you must be playing too tight. weekday
game is usually tighter than weekend game from my experience. Less chance to
get paid off with big hands from super fish. I think it is better to open
your game up than going back to your shell and wait for big hand in this
case. If they are folding to your limp reraising, you should at least put AK
into your limp reraise range. I don't play short stack myself, but I do a
lot of limp reraise with AK from ep when there ar... 阅读全帖 |
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