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a*****1
发帖数: 3817
1
自己去看美国宪法
United States Constitution
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United States Constitution
Constitution of the United States, page 1.jpg
Page one of the original copy of the Constitution
Created
September 17, 1787
Ratified
June 21, 1788
Date effective
March 4, 1789; 227 years ago
Location
National Archives,
Washington, D.C.
Author(s)
Philadelphia Convention
Signatories
39 of the 55 delegates
Purpose
To replace the Articles of Confederation (1777)
This articl... 阅读全帖
T*******u
发帖数: 1908
2
这篇文章的核心观点就是,因为没有法律明确肯定人民武装起义权利的条款,所以持枪
跟制衡国家公权力没有关系。
呵呵,那法律明确规定不能武装起义推翻暴政了吗?这个“持枪跟制衡国家公权力没有
关系。”的结论从何而来?
没有法律规定穆斯林可以搞恐怖袭击,你看到穆斯林突然冲进人群大叫阿拉胡阿克巴你
就不跑了吗?
总有一些不知身在哪里的傻逼,觉得自己被高院法官还懂宪法,比美国人还懂美国,比
美国人自己还明白美国人要什么
2A写的清清楚楚,就是拒绝承认,要千方百计曲解:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
如果只是个人安全,为什么需要regulated Militia,为什么要保证security of a
free State?
作者自己给出的论据:

紧接着的1792年通过的《民兵法》(militiaactof1792)清
楚地说明了美国的立法... 阅读全帖
b********n
发帖数: 38600
3
来自主题: USANews版 - 美国枪支文化历史
《美国的枪支问题(一)第二修正案之争》
林三土

当地时间2017年10月1日晚,美国赌城拉斯维加斯,64岁的白人男性斯蒂芬·帕多克
(Stephen Paddock)使用经过改装的半自动步枪,从曼德勒海湾酒店第32层某房间的
窗口,居高临下地扫射广场上参加拉斯维加斯年度乡村音乐节的人群,造成59人死亡、
489人受伤,继2016年6月12日的奥兰多夜店枪击案(50死53伤)之后,再次刷新了美国
单人枪击案的死伤记录。案发后,警察在涉事酒店房间中发现23支枪械及大量弹药,以
及数枚可将半自动步枪的射速提高到每分钟700发子弹的撞火枪托(bump stock),不
久又在枪手家中发现了另外19支枪械,以及未曾付诸实施的攻击其它音乐节的计划。
美国的枪支制度一向遭人诟病,拉斯维加斯枪击案更是直接暴露出其中的重重漏洞。
比如在联邦层面,尽管1986年的《火器拥有者保护法》(Firearm Owners Protection
Act)禁止平民持有1986年以后生产的全自动枪械(俗称“机关枪”),但无论半自动
枪械还是撞火枪托,却都不在目前的法律限制范围之内:1994年的《突击武器禁令... 阅读全帖
q********1
发帖数: 1480
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最近大华府地区流传的《一个佛吉尼亚家长对佛罗里达州校园枪击事件的思考)是篇好
文章,可以看出作者的理性思考和解决校园枪击案这一痼疾的探索和建议。我觉得这样
的文章多一点好,比对立谩骂有用得多。我对文中的以下观点,有些赞成,有些并不认
同。写出来算是一种声音吧。真理越辨越明,希望对解决问题有些帮助。
观点一:有些人依美国宪法第二修正案(Second Amendment to the United States
Constitution)而来的持枪自卫的权利可以超越其他人的生命的权利。---不认同。持
枪权利和生命权利不是两个对立的概念,并非有了持枪权,就要多人性命;况且
Parkland惨案的凶手,根本没有权利持枪,永远不应该有枪。既然没有持枪权,也谈不
上被第二修正案所保护。
观点二:第二修正案的目的是给予各州的一种集体防卫权。---不认同。从二修的原文
("A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State
, the right of the people to keep and bea... 阅读全帖
D***I
发帖数: 1957
5
来自主题: USANews版 - 你们为什么仇恨穆斯林?
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given
country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving
minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
低于2%,他们被视为爱好和平的少数,民,族,不是其他国民的威胁。举例如下:
United States -- Muslim 0.6%美国
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%澳洲
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%加拿大
China -- Muslim 1.8%中国
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%意大利
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%挪威
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
disaffected groups, oft... 阅读全帖
a*********a
发帖数: 3656
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if look at the recent right-winger v antifa clashes. the right-winger side
is typically a couple hundred with some hard-core and a bunch of
conservatives.
the antifa side typically runs to a thousand plus. with a couple hundred
antifa in full black battle gear and hundred of uber liberals and socialists
/marxists.
Southern Poverty Law Center marks Patriots Prayer and Prod brothers as white
supremacist racial hate groups. In the mean time would not tag antifa and
BLM as extreme hate groups.
I rea... 阅读全帖
l*******g
发帖数: 27064
7
没错
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given
country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving
minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
低于2%,他们被视为爱好和平的少数,民,族,不是其他国民的威胁。举例如下:
United States -- Muslim 0.6%美国
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%澳洲
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%加拿大
China -- Muslim 1.8%中国
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%意大利
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%挪威
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
disaffected groups, ... 阅读全帖
s*******n
发帖数: 12995
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来自主题: NewYork版 - 支持禁枪
而且老中中不管反枪或拥枪的,都miss个这个宪法修正案中的前一句:
“A well regulated militia”。
老实说,日常自卫基本上用不到assault weapon. 但宪法规定这一条,就是给可能专制
的政府一个制衡,而militia要用到assault weapon的。
有人说,现在政府大炮坦克原子弹,你那两把破枪顶个球? 呵呵,美国超过1亿以上的
人拥有3亿把枪,再强力的政府,在这一亿人们三亿把枪面前,都要三思而后行。再说
了,对付民众,上上坦克也就算了,原子弹炸自己国家?连天朝都不可能的。
这就是老美特别是NRA骨子里为啥反枪的原因,说到底老美骨子里200多年来都是对政府
的不信任。自不自卫的都是其次。
还有人问,原子弹也是arm,为啥美国要禁止伊朗,北韩拥有?这也问的好。美国这个
国家对内是民主,对外是霸权。既然要霸权,当然希望武器不对等的。现在老中高叫禁
枪的,就相当于伊朗北韩高叫禁核,那就是自废武功。
a*o
发帖数: 25262
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来自主题: NewYork版 - 支持禁枪
militia, 现在这个时代还有 militia? 现在应该还有 well regulated gangsters.
这宪法的制定是根据当时的局势而写的,现在如果还有英国士兵冲进一般民居的房子?
那时候的 arms 不是现在的半自动机关枪。这条宪法已经失去原来的意思了。
y****t
发帖数: 10233
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - 加税!加税!你准备好了吗? (转载)
放屁,什么叫无政府主义?
无政府是没有政府.
你知道什么叫check n balance吗?
任何一个被check的没有了,还能叫check n balance吗?
you are idiot.
另外,你说的被抓是这个吧?
Federal judge orders 9 members of Christian militia freed from custody
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/05/federal-judge-orders-9-members-of-christian-militia-freed-from-custody/1
这纯粹就是共产obama, big sis的joke.
and you are big effing joke too.
c********8
发帖数: 1426
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这种一知半解的文章没什么意义。
关于Second Amendment的详尽解释可以看看这个:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
美国立法保护人民拥枪权是因为担心
risk of "mal-administration of the government" using the "religiously
scrupulous" clause to destroy the militia as Great Britain had attempted to
destroy the militia at the commencement of the American Revolution.

的。
S*********g
发帖数: 24893
12
小伙子,两个建议:
1.不要迷信权威。
宪法第二修正案,只有一句话,2008年还需要大法官的ruling,最后是5:4,本身就说
明问题。
2.好好学英文。然后读这两句话:
A well regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free State.
The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
你能看出这两句话和第二修正案(一句话)的区别吗?

还中英文对比。。。太搞笑了,那要让最高法院的法官先学中文,然后再请坑王跟他们
argue他们的2008年的判决吧,感情这些大法官都是初中英文没毕业。
“Supreme Court ruled that, "The Second Amendment protects an individual
right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use
that arm for tradition... 阅读全帖
i*********5
发帖数: 19210
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来自主题: Cycling版 - Hey, drivers, can we talk?
It’s not really a war if the casualties are only on one side
By Ashley Botting
There is no “War on the Car.” War implies a fair fight.
The conflict between bikes and cars is more like a skirmish between a weak
civilian militia and a military giant. The giant has heavy artillery, while
the militia is armed only with rocks and a whole lot of pent-up anger.
I’ve been an April-to-November cyclist for 10 years. I always ride
defensively. I keep a full door-length between parked cars and myself. I
wea... 阅读全帖
i*********5
发帖数: 19210
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来自主题: Cycling版 - 骑车上班, 再写几句。。。
不知道你为什么不喜欢骑自行车的,是不是我们挡着你拉客做生意了?但是我认为我们
之间应该多交流多沟通,争取达成共识互相理解。
"Hey, drivers, can we talk?"
It’s not really a war if the casualties are only on one side
By Ashley Botting
There is no “War on the Car.” War implies a fair fight.
The conflict between bikes and cars is more like a skirmish between a weak
civilian militia and a military giant. The giant has heavy artillery, while
the militia is armed only with rocks and a whole lot of pent-up anger.
I’ve been an April-to-November cyclist for 10 years.... 阅读全帖
O******e
发帖数: 2834
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来自主题: Fishing版 - 做事要磊落。
对这段话有不同意见,不吐不快:
第一,你可以提出你的论点,再给点论据支持,足矣。可惜,一来就先给人“扣顶大帽
子”。先吹捧一下,再“针扎一下”,什么“带着主观态度讲问题时,误导效果更强大
”。 这,是你针对人的“opinion”,而不是针对这个问题的“Arguement”。
第二,关于“第二修正案”的一些解读,你讲得太粗,我帮你顺顺看:
(都是理工WSN,外行,考证不来专业文献,简单点,就维基百科,算是马马虎虎过得
去了)
1,先用中文的,哈哈; 链接如下:
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E6%86%B2%E6%B3%
比较简单,提到该法案的历史线索。这大概就是KV提到的“中文”来源。这个,看来还
是“和中文媒体有几毛钱的关系”吧?
2,再看 Wikipedia “Second Amendment to the United States Constitution”;解
释要详细的多
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_Sta
关于持枪权... 阅读全帖
c*******s
发帖数: 5839
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来自主题: Fishing版 - 做事要磊落。
你想说什么?自己先看看你这三点都通么?
我跟KV观点经常不同,因为我们都有很强烈的个人想法,都是书生意气之争。
你根本不懂,看见有争论就赶紧补课?
你自己的见解是啥?
就挑拨一下玩?
很好玩吗?
你要真感兴趣好好看两天书,参加讨论我欢迎。别那么不踏实,翻两眼google就来起哄。

第一,你可以提出你的论点,再给点论据支持,足矣。可惜,一来就先给人“扣顶大帽
子”。先吹捧一下,再“针扎一下”,什么“带着主观态度讲问题时,误导效果更强大
”。 这,是你针对人的“opinion”,而不是针对这个问题的“Arguement”。
第二,关于“第二修正案”的一些解读,你讲得太粗,我帮你顺顺看:
(都是理工WSN,外行,考证不来专业文献,简单点,就维基百科,算是马马虎虎过得
去了)
1,先用中文的,哈哈; 链接如下:
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E6%86%B2%E6%B3%
比较简单,提到该法案的历史线索。这大概就是KV提到的“中文”来源。这个,看来还
是“和中文媒体有几毛钱的关系”吧?
2,再看 Wikipedia “Seco... 阅读全帖
A*P
发帖数: 248
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 这个是不是典型变态白人长相?
Militia arrests timed to prevent violence, official says
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/30/michigan.militia.arrests/index.html?hpt=C1
d********e
发帖数: 2221
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版大,这个可以发吗?如果不和版规,请删贴。
Virginia: Senate and House Committees Take Action on Several Firearm-Related
Bills
 The Senate Courts of Justice Committee and the House Militia, Police
and Public Safety Subcommittee recently held meetings on several bills of
importance to Virginia gun owners, sportsmen and supporters of the Second
Amendment.At 8:00 a.m. on Friday, January 18 the Senate Courts of
Justice Committee heard many bills of interest to the NRA.   
Action occurred on the f... 阅读全帖
T******g
发帖数: 21328
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这哥么就是典型的有枪反枪派,挂羊头卖狗肉的代表呀。
居然连2A的原始目的是为了保护农奴主的话都能说出来

MAINEPREPPER 1 year ago
in reply to MAINEPREPPER
Patrick Henry was also convinced that the power over the various state
militias given the federal government in the new Constitution could be used
to strip the slave states of their slave-patrol militias. He knew the
majority attitude in the North opposed slavery, and he worried they'd use
the Constitution to free the South's slaves.. This is why they wanted the
right of the people to keep and... 阅读全帖
m***y
发帖数: 14763
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今夕何夕,一个暴力抗税产生的国家居然讨论公民是否有枪权?难道应该讨论的,不是
公民拥枪产生的费用,应该多大比例免税吗?
老汉个人观点,是100%免税外,联邦还要match 100%的tax credit,因为A well
regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right
of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.既然是必要的,那
自由国家就该为这个掏钱。
当然,老汉接下来的话就要让你们大骂“叛徒”了:)因为老汉支持枪权又支持枪控,
实际上老汉对第二修正案的解读是,它既保护the right of the people to keep and
bear Arms,也支持well regulated Militia。老汉可以同意严格的枪支控制,但这钱
得非枪主和枪主凑份子。
随便提醒一下开餐馆和其它业主,所有跟枪相关的费用,不要忘了以安保名义作为
business cost扣税,你们钱再多,也该表明立场,让非枪主... 阅读全帖
O*******d
发帖数: 20343
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1995年的大爆炸,就是反政府武装干的。
Timothy James "Tim" McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was an
American domestic terrorist who detonated a truck bomb in front of the
Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995.
Commonly referred to as the Oklahoma City Bombing, the attack killed 168
people and injured over 800.[3] It was the deadliest act of terrorism within
the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.[3]
McVeigh, a militia movement sympathizer, sought ... 阅读全帖
S*********g
发帖数: 24893
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 我是持枪者,我反对拥枪(一)
小伙子,两个建议:
1.不要迷信权威。
宪法第二修正案,只有一句话,2008年还需要大法官的ruling,最后是5:4,本身就说
明问题。
2.好好学英文。然后读这两句话:
A well regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free State.
The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
你能看出这两句话和第二修正案(一句话)的区别吗?

还中英文对比。。。太搞笑了,那要让最高法院的法官先学中文,然后再请坑王跟他们
argue他们的2008年的判决吧,感情这些大法官都是初中英文没毕业。
“Supreme Court ruled that, "The Second Amendment protects an individual
right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use
that arm for tradition... 阅读全帖
S*********g
发帖数: 24893
23
来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 我是持枪者,我反对拥枪(一)
小伙子,两个建议:
1.不要迷信权威。
宪法第二修正案,只有一句话,2008年还需要大法官的ruling,最后是5:4,本身就说
明问题。
2.好好学英文。然后读这两句话:
A well regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free State.
The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
你能看出这两句话和第二修正案(一句话)的区别吗?

还中英文对比。。。太搞笑了,那要让最高法院的法官先学中文,然后再请坑王跟他们
argue他们的2008年的判决吧,感情这些大法官都是初中英文没毕业。
“Supreme Court ruled that, "The Second Amendment protects an individual
right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use
that arm for tradition... 阅读全帖
z**l
发帖数: 4
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - Palestinian stonethrowers wound Jewish baby
Palestinian stonethrowers wound Jewish baby
Wednesday, August 25, 2010 | Israel Today Staff
Palestinian Arab stone throwers attacked a Jewish vehicle south of the
Judean town of Hebron on Tuesday, wounding an infant passenger.
Israeli army medics treated the baby at the scene, but decided the child
needed to be evacuated to a Jerusalem hospital for further treatment.
While such an attack by Jews on an Arab family likely would have made
headlines around the world, Tuesday's attacks by Arabs on ... 阅读全帖
k***r
发帖数: 13724
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【 以下文字转载自 History 讨论区 】
发信人: laoselang (LAOSELANG(好吧,别打了,我就是兔子)), 信区: History
标 题: Re: 阿拉伯和奥斯曼帝国的犹太人
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 10 00:12:35 2015, 美东)
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given
country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving
minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
低于2%,他们被视为爱好和平的少数,民,族,不是其他国民的威胁。举例如下:
United States -- Muslim 0.6%美国
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%澳洲
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%加拿大
China -- Muslim 1.... 阅读全帖
l***a
发帖数: 5114
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来自主题: SciFiction版 - 阿西莫夫太节棍了!
最近翻出阿西莫夫作品全集来重看,真挺有意思的,不仅囊括了他最早期那些名不见经
传的短篇,还有自己写的“创作感想”。看到TRENDS那一篇,居然发现他在1938年(当
时他还在读大学)成功预测成两件事:1)1940年第二次世界大战,2)1970年,人类登
月。
两件事都只差1年而已!
我一直觉得那个SF黄金时期的创作高峰,后来者很难翻越……
下面附TRENDS 的原文。
TRENDS
John Harman was sitting at his desk, brooding, when I entered the office
that day.
It had become a common sight, by then, to see him staring out at the Hudson,
head in
hand, a scowl contorting his face—all too common. It seemed unfair for the
little bantam
to be eating his heart out like that day after day... 阅读全帖
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You are wrong.
Amendment II: A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of
a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be
infringed.
"对农民起义,开国者看法不同。华盛顿认为go-vern-ment要制止这些骚乱,要建立更
强有力的go-vern-ment。杰弗逊却说“我喜欢不时有一场小暴动”,“自由之树必须时
常以爱国者和专制统治者的鲜血使之更新常青,这是它的天然肥料”。"
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_4e7430490100abp3.html
造反 does not mean to overthrow the entire government. 造反 also includes to
overthrow a local authority.
You think 杰弗逊 considered only individual citi
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来自主题: ChinaNews版 - 中国是否正在走向法西斯主义?
http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/currentevent/451255.html
美国已经在法西斯国家的边缘了
2012-02-20 12:42:28
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/02/20/silencing-the-critic
Silencing The Critics
by Paul Craig Roberts, 20 February 2012
In 2010 the FBI invaded the homes of peace activists in several states and
seized personal possessions in what the FBI–the lead orchestrator of fake
“terrorist plots”–called an investigation of “activities concerning the
material support of terrorism.”
Subpoenas were issued to compel ant... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: ChinaNews2版 - donaghy你怎么遁了?
信人: donaghy (I am an NBA referee), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 扇一下拥枪右棍的脸:拥枪和开车
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Dec 18 00:30:46 2012, 美东)
宪法第五修正案
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime
, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases
arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual
service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for
the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be
... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: History版 - 瞎聊几句大炮和陈炯明
Just take a look @ GW's early militia life. It is not pretty
g***f
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来自主题: History版 - 瞎聊几句大炮和陈炯明
Just take a look @ GW's early militia life. It is not pretty
c******o
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反日耳曼人情绪与早期拜占廷帝国政治危机
来源:《历史研究》2014年2期 作者:董晓佳/刘榕榕
【内容提要】 早期拜占廷帝国皇帝继承并进一步发展了罗马共和国与帝国时期招募蛮
族为兵的政策,这是针对帝国边境所面临的安全问题而推行的举措。该政策一方面有助
于减轻日益严重的边境压力,增加了军队兵源,另一方面又导致以日耳曼人为代表的蛮
族士兵在军队中占据重要地位,造成帝国军队的蛮族化。来自帝国外部的蛮族劫掠与帝
国内部蛮族士兵和将领的增多,引起了早期拜占廷帝国内部的反日耳曼人情绪。这种主
观存在的情绪与客观存在的拜占廷帝国政治体制内部军权与皇权之间矛盾相结合,导致
4世纪末5世纪初发生了自君士坦丁堡落成以来最为严重的一次政治危机。
【关 键 词】拜占廷帝国/反日耳曼人情绪/盖伊纳斯危机
【作者简介】董晓佳,广西师范大学历史文化与旅游学院讲师;刘榕榕,广西师范
大学历史文化与旅游学院副教授。
公元330年,君士坦丁一世(Constantine Ⅰ,306-337,在位期,下同)在博斯普鲁
斯海峡西岸古希腊城市拜占廷城旧址建设的新都君士坦丁堡落成。君士坦丁堡自落成后
到4世纪末,曾受到过两次威胁,... 阅读全帖
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Mao's "industrial system" was just like USSR, all based on the military and
war.
This system was able to get A-Bomb, but no way to get 100g meat (erliangrou);
This system was able to provide numberless cheap infantry and militia, but
no way to build railroads, airport, and even paved road;
This system was able to defend any invasion, but no way to provide enough
food, that's the reason for 3000 wan;
This system, like USSR, will fall whenever the country can't support more
wars, and expanding.

m... 阅读全帖
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Militia Cavalry
Rebel Chinese Cavalry
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谈谈​“持枪权”和“推翻暴政的权利”
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每次美国爆发枪击案,关于美国宪法中“持枪权”的话题就会热起来。有一种说法广为
流传:美国宪法规定了人民拥有“持枪权”;更有甚者,还说这个“持枪权”是为了保
证宪法赋予人民“推翻暴政的权利”。但事实上,“持枪权”只是对美国联邦宪法第二
修正案的曲解。而所谓“推翻暴政的权利”则完全是讹传。
谈谈​“持枪权”和“推翻暴政的权利”
每次美国爆发枪击案,关于美国宪法中“持枪权”的话题就会热起来。有一种说法广为
流传:美国宪法规定了人民拥有“持枪权”;更有甚者,还说这个“持枪权”是为了保
证宪法赋予人民“推翻暴政的权利”。但事实上,“持枪权”只是对美国联邦宪法第二
修正案的曲解。而所谓“推翻暴政的权利”则完全是讹传。本文接下来分别对二者进行
分析。
§1 美国宪法赋予人民“持枪权”了吗?
关于“持枪权”的说法,来源于对美国联邦宪... 阅读全帖
t*******n
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来自主题: Military版 - 密西根一反政府武装9人被捕
Nine Charged in Militia Plot
Michigan Religious Group Plotted Violent Government Offensive, U.S. Charges
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304370304575151663088415470.html?mod=WSJ_World_MIDDLENews#articleTabs%3Darticle%26project%3DFLASHLIST_10COL
f**g
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来自主题: Military版 - 密西根一反政府武装9人被捕
丫们杀了个警察。搜索下america militia,很多洲都有网站,组织,网页上大多说明
了合法。
e********3
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来自主题: Military版 - 密西根一反政府武装9人被捕
看了一下他们的网站,搞得蛮正规的,起码比这里的光说不练的要强多了,真爷们,我
估计最后没啥事,宪法保护公民有组织militia的权力。

Charges
f**g
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来自主题: Military版 - 密西根一反政府武装9人被捕
The Idaho Light Foot Militia
http://www.northidaho21lightfoot.org/
Those who expect to reap the blessings of
freedom, must, like men, undergo the
fatigues of supporting it.”
Thomas Paine
牛逼
E*V
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来自主题: Military版 - 报告大家美国一个和谐的新闻
我知道各大新闻都没有把新闻下架,但是昨天下午就不再首页,
要翻很久才找得到。
news。google。com下午开市点US,在第4,还是第5,才是
后来就更落后了。
cnn晚上反而对那个christian militia报道了一遍又一遍,
靠,人家还一个人都没有杀呢
c**i
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来自主题: Military版 - 听众信箱:美国的民兵归谁管?
VOA Chinese, Apr. 7, 2010.
http://www1.voanews.com/chinese/news/US/20100407-Mailbox-MILITIA-US-90110102.html
My comment:
(a) The report states, "民兵在美国独立建国战争中功不可没,开国先贤们在宪法中
写下了有关民兵和拥枪权的条款。" This refers to the Second Amendment to the
United States Constitution.
(b) The report misstates when its says, "国民警卫队,他们平时有自己的生活和
工作,一般每星期抽出一个周末并在一年期间抽出两个整星期参加军事训练." That is
a former recruiting slogan "One weekend a month, two weeks a year" which "
was dropped during the Iraq War after it became clear that Gua
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【 以下文字转载自 ChinaNews 讨论区 】
发信人: wlwl12 (月夜逃亡), 信区: ChinaNews
标 题: Re: 对待老毛,还是要功是功过是过,分开来说比较好
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 28 21:42:40 2010, 美东)
You are wrong.
Amendment II: A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of
a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be
infringed.
"对农民起义,开国者看法不同。华盛顿认为go-vern-ment要制止这些骚乱,要建立更
强有力的go-vern-ment。杰弗逊却说“我喜欢不时有一场小暴动”,“自由之树必须时
常以爱国者和专制统治者的鲜血使之更新常青,这是它的天然肥料”。"
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_4e7430490100abp3.html
造反 does n
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来自主题: Military版 - “我喜欢不时有一场小暴动”
发信人: wlwl12 (月夜逃亡), 信区: ChinaNews
标 题: Re: 对待老毛,还是要功是功过是过,分开来说比较好
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 28 21:42:40 2010, 美东)
You are wrong.
Amendment II: A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of
a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be
infringed.
"对农民起义,开国者看法不同。华盛顿认为go-vern-ment要制止这些骚乱,要建立更
强有力的go-vern-ment。杰弗逊却说“我喜欢不时有一场小暴动”,“自由之树必须时
常以爱国者和专制统治者的鲜血使之更新常青,这是它的天然肥料”。"
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_4e7430490100abp3.html
造反 does not mean to overthrow the e
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"在美国只有公民一说": 乱说,美国宪法里都是用的“人民”,没有用“公民”。
例如: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free
State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
我们平时所说的“老百姓”就是指人民。
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来自主题: Military版 - 看看美国人对wikileak的反映
My knowledge and personal experience is that "civilians" in the middle east
are militia without uniforms.
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来自主题: Military版 - 英军二战后战争死亡人数
Malaya 1948-60: fatalities 340
Lasting from 1948 until 1960, the Malayan emergency was a period of unrest
following the creation of the Federation of Malaya after World War II.
British forces were used to suppress the uprising led by rebels of the
largely Chinese Communist Party of Malaya. Its policy of relocating rural
Chinese into "New villages" proved especially unpopular. Later, after
addressing political grievances, the uprising petered out.
Yangtze River incident 1949: fatalities 46
On 20 ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Military版 - 难怪79年的自卫反击打得这么惨
我的评论不是100%准确,在此set it right:
From Wikipedia:
Many of Vietnam's elite troops were in Cambodia keeping a tight grip on its
newly
occupied territory. The Vietnamese government claimed they left only a force
of
about 70,000 including several army regular divisions in its northern area.
However, the Chinese claimed to have encountered more than twice this number
.
While China claimed to have crushed the Vietnamese resistance, Vietnam
claimed
that China had mostly only fought against border militias. ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Military版 - 难怪79年的自卫反击打得这么惨
土工:recent leak shows that the PLA had 6,954 killed and 14,800 wounded[4],
and 238 Prisoners of War [27] in the course of the war.
越共:Regular forces : 47,000 killed in total, Wounded: more than 10,000. 22
10 Prisoners of War [4][28]. Province Militia and divisions of the Public Se
curity Army: unknown, the causality estimated: 70,000
这叫相当?数学也不行?
C*******d
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来自主题: Military版 - 难怪79年的自卫反击打得这么惨

北越遍山地植被,越南全民皆兵擅长游击战骚扰战,撤退部队不肯能进行大的围剿行动
,所以只有挨冷枪冷

的份,你去看看越战老兵的纪实就知道土共的军队怎么跑得了。还是哪句话,裤子都快
跑掉了。
至于越军没有反击,那是因为土共跑得快。
From Wikipedia: (Vietnam had) 70,000-100,000 regular force, 150,000 local
troops
and militia. "3师和316A师,占了正规军的一半",好大一个师。
土共跑得那么快没来得及。越军根本不吊土共,认为国内的部队就足够了,知道土共也
就是个纸老虎。美帝
那么强大他都打赢了,背后被苏联紧压的残废的土共算个屁。
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来自主题: Military版 - 法国人民的幸福生活
利比亚人民的幸福生活
Life in Libya:
• GDP per capita - $ 14,192.
• for each family member in the state pays $ 1,000 a year subsidy.
• Unemployment - 730 $.
• Salary Nurse - $ 1,000.
• For every newborn is paid $ 7,000.
• Suite as a gift $ 64,000 to buy an apartment.
• The discovery of personal business one-time financial assistance - $
20,000.
• Major taxes and levies prohibited.
• Education and medicine are free.
• Education and Internships abro... 阅读全帖
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