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a*****y
发帖数: 367
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板子五花八门,怎么看具体雪板。
1)首先看分类:
Race, Free, All Mountain/Off Piste, All Mountain/Piste, Piste, Mogul
现在看你们两口子选择在最后两类,All Mountain/Piste应该是最适合的。怎么看,看
板的腰宽,基本在76cm左右。Piste的腰宽大多在70左右。别和Mogul的混了,Mogul的更细,
大概
在60-65左右,而且Mogul的板子转弯半径都特大,两头也很细。
2)看回转半径:
这个和雪板的控制有很大关系,三维尺寸的差别可以导致不同的转弯半径。最好选择转
弯半径小的,对于你们水平提高帮助大,因为好控制。我和你个头差不多,我会考虑转
弯半径< 15m的板子。推荐13m的。
3)看雪板的档次:
这个对新手来说比较难,可以到处搜索一下这款ski的review,你们因为肯定是买老款
的,所以不一定有详细的资料。
如果是09的,或者10的雪板,可以到ski-depot.com上面看看各个雪板,档次基本从高
到低。 你们应该买的雪板不要超过advanced level.
4)女子板
我建议你老婆买女子
O****e
发帖数: 3290
2
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Z3fJ1V8pLKQ/
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/WsIEcsimm34/
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/irXlvHGHZNY/
大家的讨论已经超出原搂主现在所能接受的范围,所以重起一楼,谈谈我的看法。在我
看来滑雪好的唯一标准只有两个:i) efficient 和 ii) elegant。如果说得再绝对一
点,只要能满足第一条,就是好的,正确的。因为一般来说,任何运动,只要能做到
efficient就基本上是elegant的,而且是不是elegant,有主观因素,多多少少受个人
审美观的影响。
三种滑法在我开来都是正确的可行的,不同的滑法适合不同的雪况,第一种显然不能用
来滑mogul。If you do, you are guaranteed to be thrown out of balance unless
you are really really really good. 第二种最适合mogul,尤其是在快速的,几乎直... 阅读全帖
z******n
发帖数: 336
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来自主题: Ski版 - 这两个雪橇买哪个呢?
看你的video的mogul学得挺好,现在中级水平想开始搞搞mogul,顺便玩玩跳个包,推
荐啥skis不?要偏短偏软?
上次honny问mogul和icy,似乎没有答案因为两钟condition不合,mogul和park应该不
矛盾了吧
g*******y
发帖数: 1930
4
来自主题: Ski版 - 滑雪二年级期末考试交卷
第二个雪季末了,这个雪季还是滑了不少,基本上每周都去,差不多有二十多次,顺便
感谢一下ld支持,忍着指甲疼牺牲周末时间陪我一起滑 :-)
技术上,感觉还是有明显的提高,技术和雪感both,蓝蘑菇虽然滑的还不是太漂亮不过
也没问题了,双黑也随便滑了,deep powder差不多也能enjoy了。遗憾的是,大部分时
间都是自己一个人蒙着头练习,期间录像也不多,盲目的滑了好多次,但是都没能发现
和纠正自己动作的错误。直到快到季末了,才有机会跟高手whaw一起滑了一次,受益匪
浅,意识到自己很大的错误是,在turn的后半截跟link下一个turn之间,ski会走到身
体前面导致重心略滞后,于是为了调整重心,身体会有一些额外的动作。
最近这两次滑雪,都尽量注意改正动作的错误和不足,尽量保持在任何时候,脚的位置
都在“身后”,膝盖压住boots。不过想做快转弯频率的时候还是会出现之前的问题。
另外一个遗憾就是这边的雪场好像都没有专门的mogul道(自然形成的mogul不够密集)
,没有mogul的录像。羡慕CO, UTAH的同雪,有好雪场和专门的mogul道,还有一大帮高
手可以学习请教和相互切磋... 阅读全帖
z*****7
发帖数: 888
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来自主题: Ski版 - 处女作
我俩半斤八两吧,今年基本上一直一起滑的。mogul的话感觉下雪以后蓝道上出的mogul
还比较好handle,黑mogul还是觉得有点大/深,感觉经常时有时无的。要是有条蓝黑之
间的mogul道练是最好了
z*****7
发帖数: 888
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来自主题: Ski版 - 处女作
我俩半斤八两吧,今年基本上一直一起滑的。mogul的话感觉下雪以后蓝道上出的mogul
还比较好handle,黑mogul还是觉得有点大/深,感觉经常时有时无的。要是有条蓝黑之
间的mogul道练是最好了
C******s
发帖数: 1917
7
这个办法的确很可行,但是如果想学mogul,就要看运气能得到什么样的教练了。我以
前试过几次,报最高级的group lesson, 但每次教练差别很大。最好的一次是有一年在
Telluide,是个专业mogul教练,当地少年mogul freestyle的领队,比头一天的私教还
好很多。最差一次在Snowmass,教练说膝盖不好,动过手术,基本上就没下mogul。
S********t
发帖数: 3431
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今天参加了个mogul day clinics。非常有用,no much instant improvement but
learned lots to work on.
教练是刚退役的加拿大mogul ski国家队,拿过world cup 4th place,跟加拿大三姐妹
是队友。第一次见到真人把mogul滑的出神入化!
最后说下,PSIA/CISA的滑法跟competitive mogul ski滑法真的差别很大!
C******s
发帖数: 1917
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ZKSS? 一直想去Mogul Camp,今年的又刚刚错过了。非常羡慕你!
以前也听说过不能跟PSIA学Mogul,初学者和他们学学平道的技术还可以,上了mogul还
是要找专门教Mogul的人较。看来是有道理的。
S********t
发帖数: 3431
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PSIA L1/L2对mogul好像不太作要求,具体的要求可能snowrider了解更清楚。
我上课的时候有位同学是CSIA L2, PSIA L1,她在mogul上也是刚刚才起步。
L3好像就要要求mogul了,但是跟classic competive的风格也不一样,更多carving,
路线选择也不一样。我孤陋寡闻,最近才听说有种新的叫做svmm的滑法,我自己看视频
琢磨着貌似这个好像更偏psia的风格。
我觉得竞技滑法难就难在,要敢于让ski对着bump的face滑过,而不是从沟里绕过去。
但是本能的觉得绕着更慢安全,对着face更害怕。。。
然后我自己的体会呢,还有一个区别就是,psia是让你尽量把动作做的圆润,尽量走出
一个干净均匀的圆弧做出pure carving,在大半径高速下达到high edge angle,虽然
也讲upper/lower body separation但是并不要求上半身完全不动;而mogul skiing更
讲快速的edge to edge,追求shoulder和hip保持square,上半身尽量不动,希望大腿
时刻保持竖直(小腿以膝盖为轴转)。
O****e
发帖数: 3290
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Thanks for sharing your reflections. They make sense and are very helpful.
我以前有发文提到carving和mogul skiing的对立,你的感受更证实了我的关念,
Carving 练久了,很多动作行成了本能,即便这些动作在平道上是合适的有效的(
efficient),去滑mogul,不做改动,就会有麻烦,更糟糕的是,可能会成为你进步的
障碍,因为一些本能的习惯,改起来谈和容易。
有一点我体会最深的就是,carving讲究engaging edge, mogul的edge to edge可能也
有engage, 但我想这两者的timing根本不在一个数量级,后着恐怕短的可以忽略,恐怕
只有mogul滑的很好了才能体会到,但是从滑平道carving 养成的习惯,很容易让你去
下意识的engage edge,一engage,板子很容易就横过头,身体也很难不稍微转向侧面
,而这恐怕是滑zipper line的大忌。
相比之下,兄弟你的"坏"习惯其实并不多,希望你能早日练成。
c****8
发帖数: 515
12
Here are my two cents:
Copper Mountain
Location is right next to Highway I-70, with free and frequent shuttle goes
right to the base. It has the easiest access for large ski resort.
Terrain has black, blue and green runs separately laid out, which is easy to
navigate. It has probably the best green runs in Colorado. It is also
family friendly with lots of place to eat and stay.
The bad side is that a lot of young kids like to go there, and some of them
do not have respect to others. They are... 阅读全帖
S********t
发帖数: 3431
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来自主题: Ski版 - 自拍了一段carving的视频
for me, the progress is roughly below:
groomers:
comfortable/confident on green: 3d
comfortable/confident on blue: 10d
comfortable/confident on black (groomed): 15d
steeps:
survive double black: 35d
comfortable/confident on double black: 40~45d (good~normal snow condition)
don't care much about slope degree: >60d (except for deep mogul run)
powder:
survive powder: 1~3 powder days @ 20~40 ski days
comfortable/confident in powder: >5 powder days, >45 ski days
moguls:
survive mogul: 30d
more comfor... 阅读全帖
S********t
发帖数: 3431
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来自主题: Ski版 - 版主威武!
达到他水平的肯定是凤毛麟角嘛!
能达到他水平的,也肯定也是一年几十天的~这是必要非充分条件。看fly身体的柔韧
和协调,这个就是天赋。看他跳kicker能飞那么高,在我们这些没有从小滑雪功底的人
里面是很罕见的。
练习条件,学习渠道,这些也是很重要的。我认识的人里,也有第一年滑了80多天的,
但是多数是夜场滑groomer,没机会练mogul,mogul上还是不行;也有第一年滑的天数
稍微少点(具体天数不知道),但是上了一周的ptms camp的雪友,groomer上能滑的也
非常漂亮。
最后说练习条件我就要吐槽一把了。Home mtn喜欢groom,连黑道每隔几天都要groom,
只有春天的时候会有点浅蘑菇。蓝道上长蘑菇是不太可能的事情,偶尔能找到一段蓝道
边上有20-30米长的mogul就算是万幸了。单黑双黑上能有些间断的蘑菇,但都很短,
形状各异。差不多我坐10趟lift,能滑的mogul的里程,当在科州坐1趟lift。隔壁的水
晶山蘑菇稍微多点,但是也好不到哪里去。这就是为什么我每次看到整齐密集的蘑菇阵
照片就要流口水的原因! PNW附近只有whistler好些,所以每次去wh... 阅读全帖
S********t
发帖数: 3431
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来自主题: Ski版 - 来看看牛人怎么吵架的
quote:
WC is NOT just for the 1% who want to ski WC. It's for everyone who wants to
ski moguls, and ski them in a decent manner. WC mogul skiing is mogul
skiing. It's the most efficient and refined method of skiing a bump field.
It works best, it looks best, and frankly... it's no harder to learn than
any other mogul "method."
from the founder of the mogulskiing.net website
k*****r
发帖数: 1435
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来自主题: Ski版 - 去犹他!
我在alta上了个off piste workshop,1点半到4点,只要75块,感觉很适合外地去的想
尝试off piste的同学。Alta本来纸板地图就不好认,标的全是数字,路上倒是标了道
名,但每次都掏地图很麻烦。traverse口很容易miss,没有人带一下要来回找。相比之
下老师们对山都非常熟悉,左钻右钻可以根据学生的能力组合出合适的雪道。Alta是个
ski anywhere you see mountain,我这样没经验的,第二天凭着记忆都找不全头天的
道。
这个课是要在山下买票的,中午在collin's半山meet。我当时从山另一边换lift过来,
都1点十分了,也来不及看地图,一路飞奔而下,幸好没有迟到。meeting place那里有
个小餐厅/shop,走groomed都会路过。
上来有个负责人询问一下你的基本情况,然后分给一个老师。我到时有3-4个老师在等
,每个人只有1-2个学生的样子。课最多5个人,但如果水平不和,不会都给同一个老师
凑班。我上来一问三不知(ballroom在哪?你们地图我实在记不住呀),直接被分到没
人的一个中年女老师那里。女老师立刻霹雳啪... 阅读全帖
S********t
发帖数: 3431
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上周末去看到saddle的右边封起来了在修比赛/训练用的mogul lane,估计多半不会
open to public吧
上周末发现ratfink中间有一段mogul也不错。可惜太短了。
另外一个general的找mogul道的方法,就是看google map的satelite,如果雪场的卫星
图片是冬天拍的,哪里有mogul一眼就可以看出来。这招大多时候还是比较灵的。

,
steep.
k*****r
发帖数: 1435
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犹他和teton的大部队爽翻了吧,我有些后悔为啥没跟着去,而是选择留在了tahoe。圣
诞的时候去了这两个地方,实在太美好,结果回来之后新年第一滑,sierra cement就
怕我忘记了它,赶紧出来现个身,湿powder马上打破了今年不摔跤的豪言壮语。更没想
到,一月里的MLK赶上了大雨浇山。先头部队到达squaw汇报top to bottom rain,
这可是过去两年前干旱暖冬都没有遇到的,转移到了mt rose,base 8000+倒是不下雨
,还让我滑上lift下软powder和软mogul,但是下午风好大,卷着雪打的脸疼。Mt Rose
chutes真心陡,3d ski map显示42角度的坡,遍布烂雪,去年崴脚的阴影让我怎么也
不能狠下心,蹭了好大一段才能正常滑,看看后面人掉了ski,觉得自己一个人下保守
些还是明智的。<40的坡或者40但是有包的我都下的去,为啥一有烂厚雪就是不敢呢,
很是懊恼。
第二天雨中滑white out的KT,滑的到是还成,雨中还看到人跳崖,但是孤零零一个人
,不爽。
第三天,重点来了,终于见到了密甲本尊,厚脸皮跟滑树林,缺乏锻炼迅速体力不支,
... 阅读全帖
z*********n
发帖数: 94654
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 网球太难
我是滑snowboard的,滑mogul先天不足
不过去年后来在科州跟着一帮skier滑了不少mogul, mid size以下的还有些心得
超大的Mogul对于boarder太痛苦了
基本上对于boarder,就得跳着下,因为正常换边已经不可能了
一个mogul跳下来精疲力竭
x*******i
发帖数: 819
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来自主题: _Vegetarianism版 - 重量级素食者的崛起
The Rise of the Power Vegan
By Joel Stein
It used to be easy for moguls to flaunt their power. All they had to do
was renovate the chalet in St. Moritz, buy the latest Gulfstream (GD)
jet, lay off 5,000 employees, or marry a much younger Asian woman. By
now, though, they've used up all the easy ways to distinguish themselves
from the rest of us—which may be why a growing number of America's most
powerful bosses have become vegan. Steve Wynn, Mort Zuckerman, Russell
Simmons, and Bill Clinton are ... 阅读全帖
w*******y
发帖数: 60932
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I was looking for some wiper blades and found this rebate. This is similar
to the rebates that they have had in the past (will have to check for this
semi-annually/annually). I was able to get a pair (19" and 24" contour)
from Amazon for $17.22 - $15.00(rebate) = $2.22. (Free shipping w/prime or
> $25 purchase on eligible items and no tax for me )
I do not know what qualifies for the full $20 or how it breaks down.
The rebate does not look vendor specific but Amazon had what I needed and at
t... 阅读全帖
h******n
发帖数: 106
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来自主题: Investment版 - 没人讨论Patch of land?年回报10~12%
I am not LZ. After I saw this post, I gradually invested 15 loans (average
11%) at Patch of Land. 7 loans were paid off early and 8 was not due yet.
So far so good.
However recently I feel the quality of the loan is not as good as before and
the rate is also lower (only 8% or 10%).
I signed up at some other sites: realty mogul, realty shares,
Fundrise. They offer both loan and equity. All of them are VC backed sites.
Now I choose from all the sites. I invested 1 loan at realty mogul (10%),
1 loa... 阅读全帖
d******a
发帖数: 106
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这汇集需要大家的发言, 我只去了LOVELAND.
这周末前LOVELAND近一星期没下雪. 我星期四去了一次, 基本全是HARD PACKED. 我坐
了4-5个不同的LIFT到处想找点松雪, 愣是没有. 从LIFT 4到顶后下来基本是在滑冰.
星期六早9:30左右到达. 当时就在下雪, 停车场的地上就有1-2寸新雪. 到了山上, 比
两天前至少多3寸新雪. 在LOVELAND的一整天都在下雪, 时小时大, 大时LIFT 2坐到顶
基本能见度是20尺. 基本在那个TRAIL都可以找到些松雪. 雪直到下午四点离开时还在
继续, 尽管比早上小了很多.
推荐路线:
LIFT 1 - 全部BLUE和GREEN的情况都不错. 误入歧途也上了BLACK, 当时太专心保命,
路况不太记得了.
LIFT 2 - 下LIFT后马上右转, 基本是从LIFT正底下划下, 雪非常的好, 某些地方有6寸
的POW如果你喜欢的话. 下来后去FIRECUT的MOGUL. 去光顾的人不多, 所以MOGUL都比较
浅. 我才开始学划MOGUL, 所以很合适. 整个FIRECUT上基本都是松雪, 很舒服.
LIFT 4
f********y
发帖数: 883
24
Diamondback Run is a deep black run with a little bit mogul on the edge and
trees beside the mogul. It gets very icy after 9:30 since too many people
flying on this run with high speed. I lost control last Saturday on this run
with a really really high speed (the middle run was blocked with people and
I had to rush into the mogul edge) and crashed into one strong guy's back
and butt. Luckily enough both of us did not get hurt and this gave me a huge
reminder of safety.
Personally I think tree sk
r******c
发帖数: 765
25
来自主题: Colorado版 - 梨花体n首
注:偶读梨花体赵教母大作及某专家高评,深受启发鼓舞,立志投身梨花派。从此不许
说俺小资,俺现代诗人了。
1. 一个人站在Keystone Outback Mogul Black Run上
毫无疑问
pp的话
是全天下
最要人命的
2. 一个人滑在Keystone Outback Mogul Black Run中
毫无疑问
今天我摔的跤
比全雪场所有人加起来
还多
3. 一个人躺在Keystone Outback Mogul Black Run边的树林里




4. 一个人走在午夜12点的雪后Boulder Creek Trail
原来月光
真的

银色的
5. 一个人在CU Family Housing煮方便面
毫无疑问
美白做的家常川菜
是全天下
最好吃的
C********g
发帖数: 211
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来自主题: Colorado版 - [科州往事].9 记俺的第一次滑雪
刚结束了今年的滑雪,看大家讨论的这么热闹,我也来凑一下数。
和大家差不多,第一次滑雪前我也只download了个video看了一下就乘缆车上去了,虽
然有摔倒,但是还可以。
第二次被朋友直接带到有难度的蓝道上,然后说我转弯的方式不对,然后就悲剧了,摔
的惨死了,最后他倒着滑把我给带下来的,然后上绿道后滑了不到500米,一个不小心
摔倒后把韧带给拉伤了,被petroller用类似于担架的东西拖下来的。
第三次由于担心韧带没有好,只在Eldora的绿道上随便转滑了滑,因为有其它事情,早
早开溜了。
第四次在普通蓝道上S型转弯基本上会了,只是在很陡的坡上还是有点胆怯。
第五次被另一朋友纠正滑雪动作,转弯时内侧的脚不用抬起来。这次突然爆发了,在蓝
道上能很enjoy了。
前几次都是在Copper Mt,蓝道很宽,从未到过大家经常提到的Winter Park。第六次和
一个美国朋友终于到了传说中的Winter Park,蓝道有些怪,不象Copper Mt那样平,有
少许障碍物,偶尔穿穿树林也不错。然后被朋友带到Mogul上,以前习惯了转大弯,一
边慢慢滑一边欣赏景色,可是mogul需要转又急又小... 阅读全帖
z*********n
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我只是上个雪季末尾在科州有这种机会,大点的mogul还是要自杀的,board滑大mogul
不如上吊自杀,我未必有资格教你,自己唯一的所谓心得就是mogul必须跳,否则
snowbard不比ski,转弯半径太大
由此带来的就是一个长坡下来能累死
我估计就科州有这种条件,不去也没意思了,哈哈
a*****s
发帖数: 838
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周末去了一趟eastern sierra,六月湖雪场chairlift J7那几条道的最后一两百yards
,已经开始mushy mushy了。滑起来很费大腿劲儿。。。需要努力后压板子,和在
powder snow里前进差不多,可是效果更糟糕,而且快不了多少。mammoth好些,不过山
底的雪也mushy了。
第一次去滑雪的时候,绿道S turn,就在boreal的castle peak quad那里。
第二次去滑雪,还是在boreal, 上了prospector (老师说是深蓝),跟着老师学了两
种carving 技术。
第三次去滑雪是在六月湖,这次继续练习carving,从深蓝和简单黑道上s turn下来。第
四次还是去六月湖和mammoth,这次开始把S turn滑得更小些,另外开始练习不turn的
carving技术。
第五次是去tahoe,去的时候刚好雪灾,很多powder snow,这次是意外的有机会积攒了
powder snow的经验,体会就是重心后置,身体几乎是可以说后压,使板子的tip翘起来
这样不会向深雪底部前进。
第六次就是这个周末,去了六月湖和mammoth, ... 阅读全帖
N**D
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ski jacket --> Arc

周末去了一趟eastern sierra,六月湖雪场chairlift J7那几条道的最后一两百yards
,已经开始mushy mushy了。滑起来很费大腿劲儿。。。需要努力后压板子,和在
powder snow里前进差不多,可是效果更糟糕,而且快不了多少。mammoth好些,不过山
底的雪也mushy了。
第一次去滑雪的时候,绿道S turn,就在boreal的castle peak quad那里。
第二次去滑雪,还是在boreal, 上了prospector (老师说是深蓝),跟着老师学了两
种carving 技术。
第三次去滑雪是在六月湖,这次继续练习carving,从深蓝和简单黑道上s turn下来。第
四次还是去六月湖和mammoth,这次开始把S turn滑得更小些,另外开始练习不turn的
carving技术。
第五次是去tahoe,去的时候刚好雪灾,很多powder snow,这次是意外的有机会积攒了
powder snow的经验,体会就是重心后置,身体几乎是可以说后压,使板子的tip翘起来
这样不会向深雪底部前进。
第六次就是... 阅读全帖
e***s
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来自主题: Ski版 - ski resort near NYC
moutain creek and camelback are basically for green and blue skiers... hunter
is much better than them, more black trails and more moguls...
belleayre is one exit closer to NYC than hunter but it is a really poorly
designed ski resort: I do not understand why they make such a "flat-head"
moutain into a ski resort... the only good thing about belleayre was that they
have a blue mogul trail so if you are mogul beginner, you may want to try
it...
IMHO, hunter is the best choice among all of them, i
b****s
发帖数: 472
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double down短一些, mogul简单一些
little dipper开始的一段mogul还可以, 不深, 不陡
后来就越来越深越陡
以上两黑各滚了3次
还滚了milkway和pistol各一次
摔了不少跟头, 根本原因是技术太差
turn 不够dynamic, 不连贯,两ski距离太远, 不会用poll, 不会跳
因为摔的多,所以重心自然往山上倾斜, 结果越摔越多
摔了一天, 没觉得进步了多少
觉得初学者还是应该先在有小mogul的蓝道或
容易的黑道上练习小回环技术
Y**s
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来自主题: Ski版 - 个矮怎么挑板?
I would feel comfortable going down the blacks first before worrying about
the moguls. Key is you need to feel confident about your speed. Special
mogul skis are typically shorter than their alpine equivalents, but I'm no
mogul expert and to me it makes no difference. For you thou, I wouldn't say
that a pair of 140s would offer any advantage over 155s.
On the more gentle runs you may feel that 140s are easier to control, but as you said,
you feel a lot of vibration and shaking when you go up
f********y
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True. there are many ways to ski moguls. Some are easy, some will need more
commitment, practice plus right coach with right technique. And also they
are lots of people arguing about techniques every day in mogul or general
ski forums. No right or wrong but personally I will take those techniques
which have been proved by champions, dedicated pros... So in all, zipper
line is the way to go for mogul I think (still personally :) ), and it is easier to achieve than we think ...

knees.
who
you
W*****5
发帖数: 408
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Actually if you can control your speed in moguls like you did in the video,
you will be a very good mogul skier already. Mogul skiing is my sore spot as
well :(
W*****5
发帖数: 408
35
You went with too high an expectation :) I have been trying to learn mogul
skiing for a long-long time with very little luck :(. Since my friends don't
moguls, I had not try hard.
Now, the key motivation for me to get better is my 7-yr old daughter.
Starting just a few weeks back, she could easily ski down double-black mogul
fields along the fall-line! So, since I have to ski with her when she is
not in ski school, the usual scene is that we would start together, I would
go a little faster at th
x***k
发帖数: 3311
36
Couldn't agree more with WO12345 (WO)!
To master moguls, you need to practice, practice, and practice.
I have a friend took 4 x 2hr lessons about moguls with 6-8 people and still
struggles now.
Of course, if you had season tickets and just had to ski moguls daily with
good buddy(s), then that's a different story.
x***k
发帖数: 3311
37
Who said I could "master" moguls? Skiing down is one thing but "mastering"
is just too big of a hat for me to carry.
More than ten people here saw me sking down moguls I'm far from "mastering"
but I like the challenge though, even as of yesterday. At the end of season
the moguls are the deepest/worst or most challenging.
I spent last four-five years to attack it also without too much progress
either. To me it's certainly a physical and a mind game to play. It's much
harder than it sounds.
R******e
发帖数: 2254
38

mogul,
help
that
This is what they called old techniques for mogul skiing. The new techniques
use A&E
I used to ski mogul using the old way, but since last Dec. I went to CO, fly
showed me to do this way.
gully
edging more, and using counter balance are the ways to deal with icy slope
W*****5
发帖数: 408
39
I am trying to learn any mogul style:( I need to catch up with my little
girl. Groomed runs are boring to her, she like trees, moguls and powders, I
am OK in the trees, but moguls and powders are big problems for me when the
slopes are steep...

good
season,
W*****5
发帖数: 408
40
This reminds me of a scene 3 weeks ago, the last time I took my daughter
skiing at Heavenly. The little dipper, the perennial mogul run, normally
is a regular black run, moguls are usually OK sized and soft since a new
snow covers and fills up the gaps once in a while. But it had not snowed for
at least a week, and moguls are getting really big and hard. The worse part
is the top section of the run is not that steep unlike many other runs, and
the big and scary section is actually further down t
d******a
发帖数: 106
41
I am by no means good in the bumps, but I enjoy working on getting better in
it.
If you are going to be spending ALL of your time in the bumps, go with the
twister or the rebellion, they are mogul specific skis (assuming the twister
is the twister mogul version.)
I have the legend 8000 skis. They are relatively stiff and wide for the
purpose of skiing the moguls. But they are excellent, excellent all mountain
skis. Super stable, take on any terran, damp, can't say enough good things
about them.
O****e
发帖数: 3290
42
来自主题: Ski版 - 关于SKI中POLE的使用
Agree. If your level is not there yet, trying to conquer mogul will only
make your technique worse. All the bad forms and habits that are tolerated
on a blue or even black trails will only be magnified on moguls. You can try
it once a while. But remember to go back to blue or black to perfect your
technique before you try it again. I admit sometimes it is hard to get away
from moguls once you are on it.

usage
touching,
bumps
pole
E*******e
发帖数: 1371
43
滑mogul用的是另外的技巧,关键是A&E,视频里面是在平道上滑,基本上是两回事。而
且你也知道,滑mogul用的板都不是小回转板。
另外如果你用老式滑法(绕包而不是跳包)滑mogul的话,其实是更接近第三个视频里
那种技术
s*******r
发帖数: 1285
44
BreadPaPa - That is not what I meant. I mean that AC50 is not designed for
mogul skiing, but you still can use it to ski mogul runs. Bump skiing is
the hardest skill to master within a resort's boundary. It really depends
on the snow condition and the shape of bumps.
That was my thought about getting a pair of all-it-can-do skis. But I
realized that it was not possible when I used my AC50 in the west's deep
powder and in the east's icy big mogul. I'll still bring my AC50 to the
west though ... 阅读全帖
g**********y
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45
来自主题: Ski版 - 新人拜山:滑雪日志
Feb 25
积攒了两次,又可以free滑雪了,更重要的是,随便什么时候去。鉴于上一周没长进,
今天决定早上去,挑战自己。上午滑那条double diamond, 下午再试那条mogul道。
今天预报有雪,去的人特别多,在山腰转了一圈都没有车位,只好开下山,坐shuttle
上来。本来想要早点,结果等穿上雪靴,还是已经11点了。
到double diamond需要先过一条蓝道,换到另一个lift, 才能到。就拿这条道热身吧。
今天雪不错,几乎没有冰面。不知道为什么,旁边的人嘀咕, 说今天的雪道对滑板是
disaster。我是看路上翻了很多玩滑板的,但是没想通是为什么。
终于激动地站在Double Diamond lane上,入口处有一个醒目的牌子:Extremely
difficult, Double Diamond, Expert only! 我幸福地从旁边滑过去,一不小心竟然跻
身高手行列了。
我做好了充分的准备,要从上面一摔到底。前面把速度压得比较狠,虽然没有停顿,但
是弯都尽量转得大一点,就是为了那最陡最惊险时刻的到来。
滑了一半,我开始怀疑了,有那个时刻吗?这个坡度,跟其余的... 阅读全帖
g**********y
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46
来自主题: Ski版 - 新人拜山:滑雪日志
Feb 25
积攒了两次,又可以free滑雪了,更重要的是,随便什么时候去。鉴于上一周没长进,
今天决定早上去,挑战自己。上午滑那条double diamond, 下午再试那条mogul道。
今天预报有雪,去的人特别多,在山腰转了一圈都没有车位,只好开下山,坐shuttle
上来。本来想要早点,结果等穿上雪靴,还是已经11点了。
到double diamond需要先过一条蓝道,换到另一个lift, 才能到。就拿这条道热身吧。
今天雪不错,几乎没有冰面。不知道为什么,旁边的人嘀咕, 说今天的雪道对滑板是
disaster。我是看路上翻了很多玩滑板的,但是没想通是为什么。
终于激动地站在Double Diamond lane上,入口处有一个醒目的牌子:Extremely
difficult, Double Diamond, Expert only! 我幸福地从旁边滑过去,一不小心竟然跻
身高手行列了。
我做好了充分的准备,要从上面一摔到底。前面把速度压得比较狠,虽然没有停顿,但
是弯都尽量转得大一点,就是为了那最陡最惊险时刻的到来。
滑了一半,我开始怀疑了,有那个时刻吗?这个坡度,跟其余的... 阅读全帖
r********7
发帖数: 229
47
来自主题: Ski版 - GoPro Hero2 拍的一段
赞一个dedicated to mogul skiing
我是完全放弃mogul了。希望有机会欣赏你和fly等牛人的mogul skiing~
q*c
发帖数: 17993
48
来自主题: Ski版 - 北美最难的10个雪道
http://gearjunkie.com/north-americas-toughest-ski-runs
North America's Toughest Ski Runs
A long time ago, as a burgeoning ski bum in the early 1990s, I kept a
scribbled list in a notebook of some of North America’s most difficult
double-diamond runs, from archetypes like Corbet’s Couloir at Jackson Hole,
to Snowbird’s Great Scott in Utah, and the Palisades at Squaw Valley,
Calif.
My goal was simple: to travel the continent and ski them all.
And I did.
Only later did I discover that this was noth... 阅读全帖
C******s
发帖数: 1917
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俺觉得也是.
snow boarding之所以酷,就是因为可以穿着很酷的衣装然后在terrain park里很酷的
跳,代表人物当然是shaun white.
snow boarding电影里,好像除了各种跳跃,就是野雪粉雪,这个也很酷。
没听说过snow boarding 有大回转,小回转或者mogul比赛之说,由此大概可以推出,
snow boarding里的carving/mogul不够酷。
如果就是想在蓝道上cruise, 何必snow board呢?玩双板好像更潇洒点吧?更何况可以
更流畅地下mogul/树林/陡坡。
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