h*******i
发帖数: 1626 | 1 patent law一样在outsource，呵呵，都outsource到印度写patent去了 |
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f**********h
发帖数: 38 | 2 The basic idea is that you can not get a patent for some trivial improvement
of an existing invention. Read MPEP sections concernign 35 USC 103.
14 year monopoly? Which country's patent law are we talking about?
In US, it's 17 years from issue (before) or 20 years from filing (now). |
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g******7
发帖数: 2 | 3 目前，我也有关于考试资格的疑问，恳请知情人给你确切的答案。
我在中国是注册专利代理人，现在日本某专利事务所工作，因为所内每年有上百件去美
国的专利申请，所以我的工作内容也有一些答复OA的工作。现在想考美国的patent bar
，并且看了general requirement bulletin for addmission to the Examination For
registration before uspto, and found this:
Any foreigner not a resident of US who shall file proof to the satisfaction
of the OED Director that he or she is registered and in good standing before
the patent office of the country in which he or she resides and practices,
and who is possessed of the qualifications |
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 4 如果是patent agent职位，最最重要是告诉人你有registration number，and/or 告诉
人你有IP的经验。
如果都没有，可能patent agent不是合适的职位，除非job description说欢迎没经验
的和没no.的。你可能应该找tech specialist或者technical advisor这样的职位。
bio和chem方面竞争非常激烈，看到的好像都是超级牛校的PhD，美国人都抢着进。 |
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s********g
发帖数: 91 | 5 三年前国内有机化学博士毕业,来美作了近两年的博士后,有了宝宝后,开始重新定位自
己的人生职业规划,到这个版学了很多东西,也想转行，patent agent是我的一个选择，
但是一直没有勇气去尝试，到这里看看有没有像我这样背景转行成功,现在做patent
agent的？国内的学位是不是一个弱点？
需要准备哪些方面的技能或考试呢？
谢谢 |
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t**c
发帖数: 13 | 6 Qualifying documentation would show that the USCIS has authorized the
applicant to be employed or trained in the capacity of representing patent
applicants before the USPTO by preparing and prosecuting their patent
applications. Any USCIS approval pending at that time will result in the
applicant's application being denied admission to the examination.
trained不是可以么？我知道OPT身份的training的support letter是可行的。 |
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 7 The Question is if your training is USCIS authorized?
The way you described your support letter sounds like it is a letter
provided by your firm. But of course, if you do have "qualifying
documentation showing that the USCIS has authorized the applicant to be
employed or trained in the capacity of representing patent applicants before
the USPTO by preparing and prosecuting their patent applications," it's
definitely ok. |
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 8 RPA = regular patent application？ why it can‘t include claims？
answers to your questions, both are yes
For provisional application, no claim is needed, but doesn't hurt if you
throw in some. The claims
themselves are considered as disclosure as well. When you file non-
provisional, you can amend spec
and/or claims, as long as no new matters are added.
The nice thing about provisional is it gives you an earlier domestic filing
date, while you don't have to
shorten your patent term.
RPA
in
claims |
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z**i
发帖数: 91 | 9 老公烂校的生物ph.D毕业，有本校的MBA学位， 是公民，日语，英语，普通话都不错。
想作patent方面的工作，正在准备patent 考试，可是还没有考过。
想问问版上的大家有没有合适的工作推荐。要是有合适的消息，请帮忙发本站邮箱作联
系信息。 多谢了。 |
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s***f
发帖数: 246 | 10 现在法学院第一年，想抽时间考出来patent bar，方便找intern及早点积累经验。 而
我的移民状态是140批准，485交上去了，有EAD，在等排期。先生是主申请人。
仔细研究了一下考试的资格要求，好像这种身份是在grey area。需要证明今后的从业
不会对现在的工作状态有冲突，比如非patent领域的H1不能考试。
现在的想法是先申请着看看，最坏的结果就是被拒掉。想问问版上达人的意见，各位对
这考试资格有何评价。
多谢了。 |
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s**********g
发帖数: 1 | 11 Does anyone need patent bar exam materials? I purchased PLI’s Patent Bar
Review in 2008, and all the books are like-new. There is no writing in any
of the books. The materials include:
* Read Me First letter
* Pre-Course Book and Key Word Glossary
* ClaimsLight book.
* Prime questions book
* 3-ring binder Exam-Focus Study Guide.
* 8 video DVDs AND 36 audio CDs for all of the live lectures covering the
study guide.
* PatWare 9.0 CD used to practice tests in the testing environment.
* MPEP 8th Edi |
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 12 的确不太见环境科学的人做patent，也许本质上讲你应该可以handle化学化工方面的
patent，但是要进所，很难。
就好像civil engineering也不常见，虽然他们handle机械工程的东西应该没问题。
建议先试着找找工作，如果根本没人理你，那也别浪费功夫了。 |
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z**i
发帖数: 91 | 13 老公生物ph.D毕业，有本校的MBA学位， 是公民，有香港身份证,日语，粤语，普通话,英语，都不错。想作patent方面的工作. 刚刚通过了patent bar 考试，可是没有相关的工作经验，
我们刚有了宝宝，我自己因为老板离开，我呆在原地等毕业，所以终止了奖学金，
想问问版上的大家有没有合适的工作推荐。要是有合适的消息，请帮忙发本站邮箱作联
系信息。 多谢了。 |
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r***l
发帖数: 298 | 14 you may also try USPTO.
however, there is rumor that they will announce hiring freeze later this
year, except for some shortage areas.
You may need to act quickly.
话,英语，都不错。想作patent方面的工作. 刚刚通过了patent bar 考试，可是没有相
关的工作经验， |
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q******z
发帖数: 8 | 15 天啊，你们不知道English patent applications需要专门人士翻译成合格的中文交给
Chinese PatentOffice。
翻译patent application documents和一般科技文献翻译很不同，不经过专门培训不行
的。 |
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b****e
发帖数: 2 | 16 偶然间发现这个版,得知很多前辈都是在美国从事IP这方面的工作,相当开心.^^
因而想请教大家几个问题
我的本科是化学领域的 硕士偏生化 目前在台湾从事专利工作也快四年了,主要是做
patent prosecution方面(写写新案,OA, 美国 台湾 大陆的案子都有碰)
目前有想去美国念书的打算.
然而,尽管想了几个方向,却总觉得各有利弊,因而一直犹豫不决,不知道朝哪个方向努力
比较好,因此想请教大家的意见.
1 PhD:其实我对科研没有那么大的热忱,只是听说做patent如果是化学生化方面的都要
求PhD学位,因此才想说是否要去念个PhD.
优点: 1较容易拿到奖学金,费用较不用担心.
2 能在这段期间努力把英文练得更好,或许以后再去念JD
缺点: 时间极长,念出来都三十好几了,这么个折腾,总是会担心体力或生育等的问题
2 FPLC(Franklin Pierce Law Center): 其实这是老板建议我的,他说如果我只是想去
美国发展,不妨念MIP, 以后找不到工作也是可以回来继续做IP, 时间与金钱的成本也不
像JD或PhD那么大.
优点:只要一年
缺点:费用要自 |
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e***r
发帖数: 183 | 17 F-1 可能不行.不过你可以打电话问问.另外,如果想加入patent bar 学习小组,
google group 的网址:
ttp://groups.google.com/group/patent-bar-study?hl=en
请把你的email发给我,然后我就可以邀请你加入. |
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d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 18 the patent bar exam is to test your understanding and familiarity of MPEP.
only working on old exams won't help you much. get some review materials
and read them.
G/T and LSAT are very different from the patent bar exam. there's a book
you much study: MPEP. There's none for G/T or LSAT. |
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C*****8
发帖数: 122 | 19 Who cares if the low-end doc review and patent prosecution work is
outsourced. |
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s**u
发帖数: 137 | 20 有没有人知道实际的例子？看USPTO的文件，关于外国人有个要求是所在国的专利局对
美国的代理提供reciprocal privileges。那是不是就不行了呢？
(c)
Foreigners. Any foreigner not a resident of the United States who shall file
proof to the satisfaction of the OED Director that he or she is registered
and in good standing before the patent office of the country in which he or
she resides and practices, and who is possessed of the qualifications stated
in § 11.7, may be registered as a patent agent to practice before the
Office for the limited purpose of presen |
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o*********s
发帖数: 275 | 21 In my opinion, being a scientist/engineer and wants to become a patent
examiner is not 转行. If you are a US citizen, go for it. But I doubt the
pay will be much better.
Or do you mean patent agent? |
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s******a
发帖数: 220 | 22 Yes,you are right . I mean patent agent. How is the job market of patent
agent? |
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x*******i
发帖数: 115 | 23 请问各位大侠，从technology specialist 到 associate attorney一定要经过patent
agent这个阶段吗？如果参加patent agent的资格考试，是走弯路呢，还是必经之路？
大概需要多久，可以通过这个考试呢？
谢谢 |
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x*******i
发帖数: 115 | 24 请问各位大侠，从technology specialist 到 associate attorney一定要经过patent
agent这个阶段吗？如果参加patent agent的资格考试，是走弯路呢，还是必经之路？
大概需要多久，可以通过这个考试呢？
谢谢 |
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W*********l
发帖数: 624 | 25 刚开始1L
直接上jd的，没有走patent agent这条路
patent bar对找工作有多大意义呢？
如果应该考，准备考试很费时间精力吗？
在想是不是应该拿出1L summer整块时间，来保证尽量一次通过 |
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d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 26 500 hours 6 months? way too long. for a person without patent experience
and working full time, 150 hours should be enough.
the patent bar exam is very different from GRE or LSAT. If you try to
understand WHY those procedures in MPEP were designed that way, you'll have
a much easier life. |
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F**********e
发帖数: 199 | 27 2 老爸老妈去办一次成绩不容易，所以想把patent bar考试资格也申请下来。
这个是国内办成绩吗？何patent bar有啥关系阿？ |
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l******e
发帖数: 18 | 28 No Reg no. Still F1 visa now. Will take patent bar after full time.EE
company is leading in the industry, pays well around 100K for fresh PhD.
Firm is top 100 general practice firm, expanding in CA. Not many patent
lawyers here.
Thanks! |
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x********u
发帖数: 15 | 29 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
发信人: xinxinshou (xinshou), 信区: Faculty
标 题: patent issue
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 24 00:59:09 2009, 美东)
我明年初会到别的学校做facaulty，今天google无意中发现老板年初申请的一个patent
,其中 40% 的内容是基于我的工作。provisional application 的时候我的名字是在里
面，正式的申请 的我的名字被去掉。请问这种情况下我有什么办法争取自己的利益？
有必要跟系主任谈一谈吗？
any suggestion is highly appreciated. |
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a***r
发帖数: 65 | 30 考patent bar首先要有绿卡，或者是H1B签证且工作性质直接和patent prosecution相
关。
你没有美国学位是一大劣势，一些中国相关业务比较多的中小IP boutique firm可能会
对你的背景和经验感兴趣。 |
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s*******j
发帖数: 274 | 31 看了置顶的贴子很受启发，一直都有转行的想法，想问问大家我这种情况是否有可能。
美国的PhD，是很冷门的理科，冷门到完全想不出有什么应用性的那种。现在在做
postdoc，没有其他的工作经验，英语没有问题，这种情况是不是有可能转行做patent？
现在经济不好，是不是technology specialist很难找了，最好先考了patent bar？
我看了一些公司的网站，感觉如果是生物化工或者工程类的背景，可能要好找一点，
我这种冷门理科的是不是没戏？谢谢！ |
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w**k
发帖数: 1455 | 32 If you are unfamiliar with bio/chem/cs/ee terminologies and concepts, it
will be very difficult. Learning on the job is not really an option for a
patent agent.
patent？ |
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g********e
发帖数: 6 | 33 我现在在一家公司工作，在现在的项目中，我有了一个新的idea，后来present给公司的
上司们。可惜这帮人完全没有数学基础，听不懂。倒是有manager感兴趣，虽然不懂，倒
是想套我的算法，写到他的报告里去。我就找了个借口说发现某个问题了，算法不成功
，就没给他。
现在我想把这个idea自己patent起来，自己开公司用。我想知道这样是否可行。因为我
以前念书的时候，好像ip都是属于学校的，个人只能是inventor。虽然我现在没跟公司
签过任何关于ip的文件，我不知道我现在是否有权利file patent. |
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h*******i
发帖数: 275 | 34 也想自立门户找partner 办LLC，但人在DC，没有理工科背景，做不了patent
prosecution. 不过熟悉trademark and patent prosecution process. 如有兴趣，愿
不愿意讨论一下。 |
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s*******k
发帖数: 3071 | 35 怎么General Requirements Bulletin for Admission to the Examination for
Registration to Practice in Patent Cases是这样写的，感觉意思是只要是lawful
resident 就可以啦。
§ 11.6 Registration of attorneys and agents.
(b)
Agents. Any citizen of the United States who is not an attorney, and who
fulfills the requirements of this Part may be registered as a patent agent
to practice before the Office. When appropriate, any alien who is not an
attorney, who lawfully resides in the United States, and who fulfills the
requirement |
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A*******5
发帖数: 10 | 36 有意转让Patent Bar 复习资料的朋友，请联系电子邮件s***********[email protected]
BTW:
诚恳请教考过Patent Bar的朋友们给些复习的经验！
多谢啦！ |
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z**y
发帖数: 24 | 37 考美国patent agent exam要求有至少一年的patent agent工作经验么？
没有工作经验可以直接去考吗？
谢谢。 |
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z**y
发帖数: 24 | 38 Thank you. 如果我是加拿大公民，定居加拿大，工作也不是patent agent方面的。我
现在有资格考美国的patent agent exam吗？
多谢答复。 |
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L****H
发帖数: 104 | 39 不想做benchwork了， 所以想换个方向， 做patent agent至少还能把以前学的用上一
些， 不算彻底改行
不知道有多大可行性
大家给分析一下， 现在这方面工作好找吗？ |
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h****n
发帖数: 92 | 40 我也想做patent agent，有机会交流一下 |
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X***P
发帖数: 3230 | 41 法律工作和benchwork其实也没多大区别，尤其是patent prosecution，无非就是钱多一
点。 |
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i****y
发帖数: 5184 | 42 xiaoP是做patent prosecution的？
多一 |
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x***r
发帖数: 6 | 43 1. USPTO will send you an official notice that you have passed the exam,
together with a form (PTO-158).
2. After you submit your PTO-158 and the fee, USPTO will post your name
online (USPTO gazette) for a while (about one month?).
3.Then USPTO will send you your registration number, and the date you are
qualified as a patent agent(or patent attorney if you are a lawyer). I think
you are asking about this date.
Congratulations! |
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A******1
发帖数: 106 | 44 Two weeks are nothing. You need to spend at least 150-200 hours in study and
practice. The MPEP is not written in logic, along with the patent law. The
first several chapters, 100-700, you will be very frustrated. But stick to
your plan and schedule and plow ahead. Once you get through 700, those
pieces will fall into place and everthing will start making sense. Besides,
if you did not take any patent law courses before, it would take at least a
month to familiarize with all the jargons/terminol... 阅读全帖 |
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r*******r
发帖数: 213 | 45 当然有帮助了。一旦有了直接相关的经验，再加上简历描述时候的适当包装，就很不一
样了。我个人认为，这样的internship比patent bar的帮助更大。 |
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p**5
发帖数: 2544 | 46 our school has unpaid internship in the "office of tech transfer". Is this
normal to have unpaid intern program in schools?
I remember someone mentioned there should be no unpaid internship according
to some law.
patent agent的工作，可能用处不大。是这样吗？ |
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s*******r
发帖数: 769 | 47 如果patent agent 和 tech advisor 的待遇差不多，那为什么还要考patent bar exam
呢？ |
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s*******r
发帖数: 769 | 48 从工作机会来讲，是不是patent agent的机会多一些？
有patent agent 一直做下去的吗？ |
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T****Y
发帖数: 274 | 49 还是需要找个律师?
我看了一下表格，好像不是很难。这个是不是拿一个priority date,不需要claim就好
了？
在班上考古，知道file patent还是要找律师的，这样的律师一般多少钱一个小时，弄
完patent一个要多少钱呢?
Thanks a lot!!! |
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d********e
发帖数: 2221 | 50 you don't need claims in a provisional application.
however, you can easily make mistakes that cannot be cured later.
patent attorneys/agents cost $160-700/hr.
prosecuting a patent application costs $6000 or more in attorney fees. |
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