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c*******s
发帖数: 1555 | 2 不知道penn state的球员们现在怎么看joe pa. Must be a hard situation for them. |
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c*********y
发帖数: 773 | 5 这帮鸟鸡巴媒体，就知道抓着老爷子不放，不去关注那个变态 |
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l**k
发帖数: 1755 | 6 They won't hire Al Golden cuz PSU wants to start completely fresh with
someone who has no ties to Paterno |
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t*****s
发帖数: 1240 | 9 刚CNN放了，Joe Paterno很镇定啊，面带微笑，频频握手。
有点明月照大江的味道。 |
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 11 JoePa 到这个时候， 还做这样的举动，以后真是要被penn state永远的扫地出门了。 |
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x*******1
发帖数: 28835 | 12 JOE PA什么时候感到很sad？还是I love u. u里面抱不包括那些kids阿？看来真的要被
盯上耻辱柱。那些叫We are penn state感到很high的，真的很傻。 |
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B****2
发帖数: 8892 | 14 喜欢老爷子。但他确实应该退了（与此次事件无关）。话都说不清楚了，还是给年轻人
一个机会吧。 |
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N*********n
发帖数: 3584 | 16 他说I love u 是指那些在他家门口那些学生，难不成还要说shame on you kids who
still support me and still love this university你们才解气？ |
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h***w
发帖数: 411 | 17 He lived 10 years with the knowledge of that shower incident, yet didn't
bother to follow up even one more time. I certainly don't have the strong
mind to live like that.
And you're right. He did nothing, and it's wrong. |
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 18 http://www.ydr.com/state/ci_19280635
New York Times: Penn State said to be planning Paterno's exit
On turbulent day, JoePa finds support from students but not administration
Excerpts from Penn State editorial opinions: Outrage everywhere
Michael Weinreib column: Growing Up Penn State
Washington Post column: End the Penn State football program entirely
Former Centre County DA's reasons for not pursuing case against Sandusky
unknown
Commentators, students express anger at allegations of cover-up a... 阅读全帖 |
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o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 19 我读了一些老美的论坛，看起来catholic有很多这样的事情发生。
starring Jerry Sandusky as the depraved parish priest and Joe Paterno as the
arch bishop who always looks the other way and Graham Spanier as the
Cardinal who rushes in to cover up everything. . Sorry to state the obvious
but many of the principals (except Spanier) in this case are Catholic (I
checked) and that culture seems to be pre-disposed to that sort of thing. It
's a huge moral dilemma. |
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c*******0
发帖数: 5247 | 22 That's a disturbing vid |
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 23 "we are Penn State" 全国"知名"了 |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 25 发信人: BigBlue (#15), 信区: NCAA
标 题: Re: 要求fire JP可以理解，叫嚣要关掉PSU FB就是别有用心了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 8 20:57:54 2011, 美东)
我不同意永远取消,
但是封杀几年, 太应该了,
对PSU来说是太小太小的惩罚了.
球员可以让他们转学, 免在新队坐一年板凳的规矩.
有甚么德性的群众，才会有甚么德性的领导.
你去看看youtube上学生们在Joe Pa家门外集会的镜头,
他被当成了英雄欢呼! 他被当成了受害者同情!!
操, 这样的群众, 没甚么可说的,
就是应该狠狠一根铁棍往脑门上砸,
整个橄榄球队马上解散, 这周的比赛就弃权. |
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c****e
发帖数: 1984 | 26 a lot more details about how Joe handled the incident is still unknown. |
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c****e
发帖数: 1984 | 27 a lot more details about how Joe handled the incident is still unknown. |
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l**k
发帖数: 1755 | 28 我也看了。
那些学生，脑袋都让门缝夹了？出这样的事，赶快都钻地洞得了，倒还搞成英雄了？ |
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l**k
发帖数: 1755 | 29 你丫的上肥嘴唇碰下肥嘴唇，PSU就该关张了？
看来看去，人coachK还就事论事，就你整得跟道德楷模似的。老子还要看球，一边凉快
去。
这帮子小P孩有的连数都数不清,都是被卖了还帮着数钱的主。估计背后有人想挽回点脸
面扳点局势。怎么PSU所有群众都德性有问题了？ |
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m********g
发帖数: 2323 | 30 弃你妈逼权
你童年被怪蜀黍爆过菊怎么的
说的好像你是当事人一样
你有什么资格评论PennState football？ |
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x*******1
发帖数: 28835 | 32 There's no defense for the people in power who had a chance to act and did
not. The university and Joe Paterno failed
本周，开赛前， JOE PA会下课，不相信开赌盘。 |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 33 对, 譬如Joe Paterno.
10 年前就报告给他的事, 他自己也心虚做了些防护措施.
现在控告书出来了, 还他妈的做惊讶状说他"shocked".
立完牌坊以后再来装婊子.
Joe Pa就是一装逼的, 你说的一点也没错. |
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T******n
发帖数: 1131 | 34 你的例子不对。 John强调family value, 结果自己不照着做，当然不行。但是他杯搞
掉，正是因为family value, 可以说他说的是对的，他自己自相矛盾而已。 大家照着
John说的做了，结果发现他自己逍遥自在，那就不行了。
如果大蓝说Paterno是伪君子，真小人，没有保护那些被强奸的男孩们，先需要查的是
大蓝的指责是不是对的。查不出来的时候才要看大蓝自己是不是也是个坏蛋，有没有
credibility.
刑事案件中经常有污点证人，就是这样。要是像你说的证人行为不端就不能做证人，检
察官们就完蛋了。 |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 35 持久装B是你们的Joe Paterno, OK? |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 36 At the VERY least,
Joe Pa was told that Sandusky was taking a shower with a 10-yo boy, both
naked, late at night, just the two of them, with physical contacts, within
the team facility.
That's what has been established, if you believe the indicement report.
That's a fact.
And Sandusky had a boy staying in his HOTEL ROOM during a trip to a bowl
game. Good grief. That trip must have spanned no less than a week, and his
room could not be far away from Paterno's.
As to what should Joe Pa, in his ... 阅读全帖 |
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 37 有一点还没有水落石出的，what did McQueary tell Paterno? JP说他没有说是sex.
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 38 你不是说你有的是时间， 已经看过起诉书了么？
OK，我指给你看，第7页，关于第二个受害者，
“（Paterno) reported to him (CurleYy) that the graduate assitant had seen
Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fonding or doing something of a
sexual nature to a young boy."
重复一次：
”Something of a sexual naure" ! OK? JP 自己就是这么转述的！
没有水落石出 my ass. It will never be 水落石出 if you don't want it to be. |
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c*******i
发帖数: 951 | 39 With all due respect, this is BS. When you have Sandusky naked with a 10-
year old boy in shower, there is no other explanation.
Even in your version, Paterno/AD basically send a message: "we don't care
what Sandusky did...just not do it on PennState campus." |
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J********l
发帖数: 988 | 40 Just win more damn games.
"Since he turned 78, which was when the university asked him to resign and
he refused, Paterno has gone 66-20 (.767 winning percentage) and coached in
two BCS bowls. " |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 41 Exactly!!
I am amazed how PSU fans, and Paterno himself, can even think about football
at this moment. Call me occupying the moral highground all you want, but I
can't really fathom this.
Unless, Joe Pa already knew about all these all along, and have already come
to term with himself years ago.
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a***n
发帖数: 5520 | 42 这我有点不理解了，sandusky不是99年就退休了么
Paterno
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c*******0
发帖数: 5247 | 43
这有什么难理解的？不就是两种情况么
1 sandusky确实犯罪了，这是天大的案件，Paterno和体育部应该直接报警，并保证案件的水落石出
2 sandusky没有犯罪，这个GA应该kick off team，居然谎报
现在两种情况都没有发生，你明白了么？ |
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c*******i
发帖数: 951 | 45 He was not the one making calls. AD was. Paterno was. |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 46 He is to Paterno what A. C. Cowlings was to O.J. Simpson.
They are going after the big tiger now, not the tiny fly. |
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 47 JoePa还是有可能被charged的。法律方面的事情才刚开始，这也是为什么
他昨天发的statement非常不明智，想压迫校董现在就接受他，但这显然
是不可能的，最后的效果就相当于是逼着校董把他fire掉了。 |
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m********t
发帖数: 9426 | 49 那些在他家支持他的孩子们有责任，让jp错误估计形势，认为没人能动他 |
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w*****2
发帖数: 1458 | 50 JoePa不是目击者。
不过美国鬼子谈这种事都很直接。可能Joe太老太保守,判断力下降 |
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