a********r
发帖数: 626 | 1 没有任何迹象表明退休和98年调查有关，看下面: it可能主动要求退休以便全职从事二英里, aka child molester.
http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/549032/Ques
Here's another strange caveat: In late 1998-early 1999, Sandusky held
discussions with Penn State Altoona about the possibility of starting a
Division III football program here.
"If it's possible [to sponsor a program], I'd be interested," Sandusky told
the Mirror in a story published Jan. 22, 1999. "I think it [football] would
be great for Penn State Altoona."
Joe Pat... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 77 | 2 A chronological look at the case against former Penn State assistant
football coach Jerry Sandusky, based on a grand jury report in Pennsylvania
state court. Some key dates in Penn State football history are included.
Sandusky has been charged with 40 criminal counts, accusing him of serial
sex abuse of minors.
1969: Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as
a defensive line coach.
1977: Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster
home dedicated... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 28835 | 3 他的潜台词，JOE PA为了超过我，所以cover了真像. 虽然没有那么直白，但我们可以
解读出来。
ALBANY, Ga. -- Former Florida State football coach Bobby Bowden said this
week that now-fired Penn State coach Joe Paterno was "a little negligent"
for not acting more decisively to stop alleged child abuse by one of his
assistant coaches.
The Albany Herald reported that Bobby Bowden said Friday that Penn State
officials could have acted years earlier to prevent sexual abuse. Bowden has
the second-most major college football wins behind Paterno.... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2053 | 4 原文link:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10102144265586464&set=a.
__________________转贴分割线_____________________________________________
I debated whether or not to share this, but as everyone has been sharing
their "JoePa stories" lately, I thought it'd be appropriate to share mine.
Despite attending Penn State University Park for 4.5 years, I never had the
opportunity to meet JoePa. I heard stories of friends that had - most
memorably two friends who, while out riding their bikes, saw him ... 阅读全帖 |
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B****2
发帖数: 8892 | 5 http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Joe-Paterno-Penn
HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP)
Penn State says it has provided more than $5.5 million in payments and
benefits to settle Joe Paterno's employment contract.
School spokesman Bill Mahon says the university and Paterno's estate
finalized the remaining payments due to the longtime coach, who was fired in
November in the wake of former assistant Jerry Sandusky's arrest on child
sexual abuse charges.
Paterno died of lung cancer in January.
The scho... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******i
发帖数: 951 | 6 不同意楼主的观点。McQueary最多算没有courage。他已经做了自己该做的(汇报给
Paterno)。PennState的球员／助教都把Paterno看作moral authority。Paterno决定怎
么处理McQueary只好follow，这个是可以理解的。
主要错误还是Paterno的包屁。如果Paterno要处理Sandusky，PennState没有人敢说不(
包括校长和AD) |
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发帖数: 2682 | 7 FROM http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/columnists/20031019cook1019p1.asp
Paterno must go to save his legacy
Sunday, October 19, 2003
The person most responsible for the stinking mess that is the Penn State
football program is not Joe Paterno.
It's not Paterno's son, Jay, whose presence on the coaching staff can't be
doing much for staff morale. Many in Penn State Nation are scared to death
that Paterno is trying to hang on long enough for his kid to take over. They
've seen Jay's work with the |
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P*****t
发帖数: 4978 | 8 wiki了一下,老爷子太牛了。
Paterno is a political conservative and a personal friend of former
President George H.W. Bush, endorsing the then-candidate in a speech at the
1988 Republican National Convention. Paterno was also a close personal
friend of the late President Gerald R. Ford. In 2004, his son Scott Paterno,
an attorney, won the Republican primary for Pennsylvania's 17th
congressional district but lost in the November general election to
Democratic incumbent Tim Holden.
"I brought my kids up to th... 阅读全帖 |
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 10 你如果觉得栾童不那么严重，那么有组织有纪律有学校做依托的进行了30-40年，你还
觉得不严重吗？受害者不敢举报，或者举报了而没有人过问。这是个什么样的社会？
Penn State是个什么样的社会？
http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_19283230?source=rss
1969—Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as
a defensive line coach.
1977—Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster
home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated
to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.
January 1983—Associated Press voters select Penn... 阅读全帖 |
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 11 发信人: coachK (coachK), 信区: NCAA
标 题: 看样子还是有penn state的同学对事情的严重性认识不足
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 8 22:12:24 2011, 美东)
你如果觉得栾童不那么严重，那么有组织有纪律有学校做依托的进行了30-40年，你还
觉得不严重吗？受害者不敢举报，或者举报了而没有人过问。这是个什么样的社会？
Penn State是个什么样的社会？
http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_19283230?source=rss
1969—Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as
a defensive line coach.
1977—Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster
home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity ded... 阅读全帖 |
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s***f
发帖数: 103 | 12 Senior offensive lineman Chima Okoli on what Paterno has meant to him: "I
came here a boy, and I'm going to leave a man. And that's all due to Joe
Paterno."恶搞一把：
On what Paterno has meant to him: "I came here a boy, and I'm going to leave
a man. And that's all due to Joe Paterno." |
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 13 Board of trustees 已经全面抛弃他了，后面的大清洗，Curley, Schultz, 校长,
JoePa 要被当作学校的对立面，严打猛打了。下面是cnnsi预测的囚徒困境。
Nonetheless, the potential exists for Paterno to face both perjury and
obstruction of justice charges, especially as the investigation intensifies
and as other witnesses, as well as defendants and potential defendants, talk
. Also, should Curley and Schultz and, if eventually charged, university
president Graham Spanier seek plea deals, they may be willing to implicate
Paterno in exchange for more favo... 阅读全帖 |
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G****e
发帖数: 11198 | 14 Lisa Rayne · Top Commenter
JOE PATERNO was forced out of Penn State after decades of excellence as the
Nittany Lions Head Coach.
Why was "JoPa" fired? Because he allowed the weakest, most defenseless in
our society are being allowed to be exploited for the degenerate pleasure of
rich and powerful homosexuals.
Sandusky is a male and he forced young males to have sexual relations with
him- that is by definition same-sex or homo(same) sexual. Why does our media
mask the fact by calling him a "pedo... 阅读全帖 |
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c****e
发帖数: 1984 | 15 http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=157&f=1395&t=9141927&p=2
"
Posted: Today 9:59 AM
RE: Contrary to What You Have Heard, the Freeh Report has Big Pr
The "report" is what it is, incomplete and a judgement, i.e. conclussion
based on available evidence.
It has gaps and is not complete without interviewing MOST of the people, it
has to make judgements. Based on what they could drudge up, the opinions
are valid, but it still has gaps and missing pieces.
The trial MAY provide more details. Would this ho... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 585 | 16 NCAA现在是站到了道德的制高点上，干什么都有理。1998这件事挺蹊跷的，惊动了警察
，竟然不了了之，这难道是也是学校干预的结果？俺也说几句政治上不正确的话，现在
所有人都指责Paterno，但如果老头没有亲见Sandusky的所为，在警察都没有查到实质
证据的情况下，指望Paterno冒着毁掉自己奉献了一辈子的football事业的风险，举报
自己的同事，这种情况放到任何人头上，不管你再高尚，都难以抉择。现在被抓了，自
然会有卫道士们觉得自己比Paterno更高尚，于是Paterno一辈子对事业的奉献，对慈善
事业的贡献，都可以被无视和轻蔑，甚至曾经的胜利也要被取消。 |
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发帖数: 1208 | 17 The crime of obstruction of justice
The crime of obstruction of justice refers to the crime of interfering with
the work of police, investigators, regulatory agencies, prosecutors, or
other (usually government) officials.
Generally, obstruction charges are laid when it is discovered that a person
questioned in an investigation, other than a suspect, has lied to the
investigating officers. If the person tried to protect a suspect (such as by
providing a false alibi, *****even if the suspect is in... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 18 有一次Sandusky和小男孩在gym洗澡，并且性侵男孩被Paterno的手下看到。手下告诉了
Paterno，paterno只向学校报告，但是没有报警。所以人们觉得paterno知情不报。 |
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发帖数: 481 | 19 PSU现在挣得另一个别名为Pedophile State University
http://l.yimg.com/dh/ap/default/120712/freeh_report_final_07121
Penn State could pay $100 million in civil damages to Sandusky's victims and
lose public funding
23 hours ago
Penn State supporters likely felt the university hit rock bottom Thursday
with the release of the Freeh Report, with its damning litany of evidence
that school leaders ignored and concealed horrific crimes against children.
But the cost to Penn State could be more severe than anyone im... 阅读全帖 |
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B*V
发帖数: 3365 | 20 PSU现在挣得另一个别名为Pedophile State University
http://l.yimg.com/dh/ap/default/120712/freeh_report_final_07121
Penn State could pay $100 million in civil damages to Sandusky's victims and
lose public funding
23 hours ago
Penn State supporters likely felt the university hit rock bottom Thursday
with the release of the Freeh Report, with its damning litany of evidence
that school leaders ignored and concealed horrific crimes against children.
But the cost to Penn State could be more severe than anyone im... 阅读全帖 |
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 21 http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/if-jerry-sandusky-allegati
true-penn-state-and-joe-paterno-deserve/2011/11/05/gIQAYIucqM_story.html
Paterno wasn’t charged, but if Sandusky is guilty, Paterno would be guilty
— just as Penn State’s athletic director and a university vice president,
who were charged with perjury and failure to report suspected child abuse
on
Saturday, would be guilty. |
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发帖数: 5247 | 22 Anyone protecting Paterno should know one simple fact: PSU AD works for
JoePa (legend and the largest donor).
Paterno did not report to the police. Instead, he made his good friend
Sandusky retire early and tried to bury it. Concern for the children was
very low on Paterno's list of priorities.
His full statement says "If true, the nature and amount of charges made are
very shocking to me and all Penn Staters. "
Totally bullshit. You know they're true, you talked directly to a fucking
eyewitness... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1755 | 23 https://twitter.com/#!/rmusselmanppg/status/133986108404011008
Paterno's son, Scott, told reporters that his father hasn't been asked to
step down and will oversee the team during practice this afternoon. Scott
Paterno said his father plans to coach No. 12 Penn State on Saturday against
Nebraska, and that JoePa's job remains "status quo."
It won't be fun to watch PSU's away game now, I can imagine the signs
floating around humiliating players.
This is just shity disgusting.... Maybe Paterno sho... 阅读全帖 |
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t******w
发帖数: 77 | 24 应该是说清了.
March 1, 2002: A Penn State graduate assistant enters the locker room at the
Lasch Football Building. In the showers, he sees a naked boy, known as
Victim 2, whose age he estimates to be 10 years old, being subjected to anal
intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant tells his father
immediately.
March 2, 2002: In the morning, the graduate assistant calls coach Joe
Paterno and goes to Paterno's home, where he reports what he has seen.
March 3, 2002: Paterno calls Tim Curley,... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5100 | 25 "I too like so many had an image of greatness when it came to Joe Paterno,
but that is all gone. Stop covering for Paterno. I've seen too many posts
trying to explain away Joe's role. Sandusky countinued to be a part of the
program, having an office on campus and undoubtedly interacting with Paterno
for many years after the incident. At the same time, the very Grad
Assistant that saw the incident was promoted to WR coach and was also on
campus. Seriously, why would you keep both on campus? Shoul... 阅读全帖 |
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 26 Nonetheless, the potential exists for Paterno to face both perjury and
obstruction of justice charges, especially as the investigation intensifies
and as other witnesses, as well as defendants and potential defendants, talk
. Also, should Curley and Schultz and, if eventually charged, university
president Graham Spanier seek plea deals, they may be willing to implicate
Paterno in exchange for more favorable treatment. Paterno, conversely, could
seek the same type of arrangement with prosecutors,... 阅读全帖 |
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l**k
发帖数: 1755 | 27 from wiki:
After five years of court battles, the Pennsylvania State Employees'
Retirement System (SERS) revealed Paterno's salary in November 2007: $512,
664. He was paid $490,638 in 2006. The figure was not inclusive of other
compensation, such as money from television and apparel contracts as well as
other bonuses that Paterno and other football bowl subdivision coaches
earned, said Robert Gentzel, SERS communications director. The release of
these amounts can only come at the university's a... 阅读全帖 |
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B****2
发帖数: 8892 | 28 http://pennstate.scout.com/2/1227203.html
The former assistant coach who was a key witness in the Sandusky trial says
he has been defamed and treated with discrimination by the university.
Former Penn State assistant football coach Mike McQueary, a key witness in
the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse trial in June, has filed a civil suit
against the university. He is seeking at least $4 million for damages and
lost future earnings.
In the suit, filed Tuesday at the Centre County Courthouse in Belle... 阅读全帖 |
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i******e
发帖数: 217 | 29 http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/24/my-take-why-is-ncaa-ta
(CNN) – As a resident of the most Catholic state in the nation (
Massachusetts), I have watched for more than a decade as the Roman Catholic
Church responded to charges of priestly pedophilia with a troubling
combination of procrastination and obfuscation.
Far too often, Catholic priests, bishops and cardinals have identified not
with abused children but with their “band of brothers,” their fellow
priests.
In the case of the sex cri... 阅读全帖 |
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d****o
发帖数: 32610 | 30 March 1, 2002
A Penn State graduate assistant enters the locker room at the Lasch Football
Building. In the showers, he sees a naked boy, known as Victim 2, whose age
he estimates to be 10 years old, being subjected to anal intercourse by a
naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant tells his father immediately.
March 2, 2002
In the morning, the graduate assistant calls coach Joe Paterno and goes to
Paterno’s home, where he reports what he has seen.
...
2005-2006
Boy known as Victim 1 says that he m... 阅读全帖 |
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b****l
发帖数: 23606 | 31 不用天天报
这事儿一桶出去，体育部长和分管治安的副校长就注定要下台了。
后面媒体天天搞，主要目的是把校长和paterno搞下来。这两个人在PSU
势力太大了。paterno为psu工作了60年，spanier在psu当了16年的校长。 |
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r***l
发帖数: 9084 | 32 顺便其他几个话题
媒体: 美国的媒体，包括报纸电视，大部分是liberal的， nbc最甚，abc其次，
cbs好些，cnn偏中间， pbs偏左但还好，fox是唯一的保守派电视。 大家无聊是左派还
是右派，都别光看自己的电视，看多了就被洗脑了。这些电视台其实也挺无聊，争论节
目，liberal的电视台就请3个左派加1个右派，然后3个左派把那个保守的攻击的体无完
肤。fox呢，就找3个保守和1个左派，然后那个左派被打的遍体鳞伤。 古语说，兼听则
明。政治类的东西兼听都不见得明，更何况只听一家之言呢。
工作输送到海外: 这个是最没意义的讨论。globalization是趋势，是完全市场决定
的。每年两党都拿中国出来打，指责对方输送了工作机会去中国。可那是企业的事情，
企业怎么赚钱怎么来。真要是把美国公司的中国生产都关了，美国这些大企业想不想活
了？ 要是把中国的进口都cut了，美国商店里面的价格涨个10~20%,老百姓的生活更是
雪上加霜。
美国政府雇员的pension和福利: 几十年前，很多美国私营企业和政府雇员一样有丰
厚的pension，但后来私营企业逐渐取消了p... 阅读全帖 |
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x*****i
发帖数: 4035 | 33 If Paterno knew about the abuse and didn't do anything to stop that pervert,
then shame on him, and yes he should be fired. It's sickening that Sandusky
used his charity to get to his victims. Another example of men in power who
think they're above the law.
to quote a comment on Yahoo:
What kind of man who is 28yrs old witnesses a 10yr old getting raped walks
away? Then him and his dad tell Paterno the next day and Joe just passes it
on. They take Sandusky's keys and the next few yrs they allow ... 阅读全帖 |
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j*******0
发帖数: 347 | 34 Sports brings great spirit but should bow to humanity.
He has no defense, no excuse because he is a teacher.
We all learn from this while Joe is shouldering the shames.
One does not believe in God? He will.
From USATODAY
Paterno was informed in 2002 of one of the alleged acts of sexual assault by
former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, and authorities concluded he
fulfilled his legal obligation by reporting the incident to athletics
director Tim Curley. But Curley and other superiors didn't... 阅读全帖 |
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p******o
发帖数: 2682 | 35 WISC: James Adds Gas to Fire
Posted Nov 4, 2006
The ABC studio show personality took Penn State coach Joe Paterno to task
Saturday, using an off-color comment to describe the veteran. In case you
missed it, you can see what James said here.
ABC analyst Craig James made some strong comments about Penn State coach Joe
Paterno during the halftime show of the Nittany Lions' 13-3 loss at
Wisconsin Saturday. In case you missed it, here is what James said.
On the set with host John Saunders and fellow |
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b*****a
发帖数: 14583 | 36 一个体育教练吭哧吭哧发表政治见解未免太把自己当根葱了
the
Paterno,
Paterno
Scott. |
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W********s
发帖数: 2256 | 37 在别处看到这个列表，稍加修改和更正转贴此处，欢迎添加。
Bobby Bowden- Joe Paterno, Miami
Mack Brown- Bob Stoops, Bobby Bowden
Frank Broyles - Johnny Vaught and Ole Miss, Darrell Royal and Texas
Bear Bryant - Texas, Robert Neyland, Notre Dame
Pete Carroll - in the state of Oregon, Jim Harbaugh
Vince Dooley - Pitt
John McKay - Woody Hayes and Ohio State
Urban Meyer - Tommy Tuberville, SEC West
Tom Osborne - Barry Switzer, Bobby Bowden, Miami
Ara Parseghian - John McKay, USC
Joe Paterno - Bear Bryant, Alabama, Lloyd Carr
Nick... 阅读全帖 |
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H*****r
发帖数: 764 | 38 Let’s face it, our favorite college programs cheat. That thoroughbred
running back who’s expected to anchor your school’s offense over the next
three or four years didn’t come cheap. Sure, your school may not have been
caught lately, but that’s probably because the coaches and boosters do it
more discreetly than others — and kudos to them, because getting away with
it isn’t always easy. According to Insider Higher Ed, almost half of all
big-time college sports programs have been punished for ma... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******0
发帖数: 5247 | 39 Basically, they fired his ass in 1999, but they covered it up and called it
a retirement.
Then it happens again in 2000. And again in 2002, when they get unlucky
enough to have a grad assistant with a conscience walk in on him. So he goes
to Paterno and tells him Sandusky likes to **** around with young boys.
Paterno goes to Curley and they are shocked! SHOCKED!! to know Sandusky does
this.
What a story |
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发帖数: 988 | 40 STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State football coach Joe Paterno has decided to
retire at the end of the season, ending a four-decades-plus tenure that has
been overtaken by a child sex-abuse case involving a former assistant.
An announcement will come later Wednesday. The Associated Press reported on
Paterno's pending retirement, which has been confirmed by ESPN sources.
Penn State's board of trustees announced Tuesday that it will appoint a
special committee to investigate the scandal that resulted... 阅读全帖 |
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T******n
发帖数: 1131 | 41 到处都是为JP辩解的。 JP要是当年为那些被强奸的男孩们多想一分钟，他今天就不会
说“I wish I had done more”。
JP法律上可能是没事了，但在道德的法庭上他永远都被钉在了耻辱柱上。他现在唯一的
希望就是这事从来没有。
这个评论说的很好， remember the children:
If these boys really were molested, groped and raped by a middle-aged ex-
Penn State football coach, then whatever misjudgment Paterno made will be a
single lit match compared to the bonfire these boys will walk in for years
to come.
Many of them won't be able to trust. Won't be able to love. Won't be able to
feel -- nor trust or love themselve... 阅读全帖 |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 42 He claimed he did, although he then said perhaps Paterno wasn't told clearly
that the act with the 10-yo boy was sexual in nature, where as, in fact,
this was exactly what Paterno himself turned around and informed the AD with. |
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c*******s
发帖数: 1555 | 43 I like it.
"Dear Penn State Fan/Alumni,
You don’t know me. Sure, we may have seen each other once or twice at a
road game or a tailgate, but aside from a passing glance, and an occasional
hello, we are strangers. Heck, we’re actually more like enemies. After
all, I’m a fan of The Ohio State University – tOSU, or O$U as you might
call it. Since you guys joined the Big Ten Conference in the early-90s we’
ve built a pretty spirited rivalry, with more than its fair share of heroics
, heartbreaks... 阅读全帖 |
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c****K
发帖数: 997 | 44 鲁猴子的声明
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7214183/statemen
Former coach and current ESPN analyst Lou Holtz has been referenced as a boa
rd member of Second Mile, a nonprofit organization that former Penn State as
sistant coach Jerry Sandusky founded. The following is his statement in rega
rds to his participation:
It is obvious I do not know the facts concerning the disaster at Penn State.
But, I am frustrated and mad. I always had great respect for Joe Paterno an
d Jerry Sandusky. I... 阅读全帖 |
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t*n
发帖数: 14458 | 45 Dear EMS Alumni and Friends,
This is one of the most difficult letters I have ever written. The past
two weeks have been devastating for the Penn State community. The alleged
crimes and their subsequent mismanagement have shocked, angered, and
saddened
all of us, and our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their
families
. Surely, no one associated with Penn State, with our longstanding and proud
tradition of honor, would have thought that something like this could
happen
in Happy Val... 阅读全帖 |
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p******o
发帖数: 2682 | 46 New Format for Blue-White Game
Receiver Justin Brown of the offense. By Mark Brennan
FightOnState.com
Posted Apr 19, 2012
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It will be offense vs. defense in Penn State's spring scrimmage at Beaver
Stadium Saturday. Get the lowdown on the format and scoring system right
here.
Penn State's annual Blue-White Game will have a completely different look
under first-year coach Bill O'Brien.
Under former coach Joe Paterno and his staff, the ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 20742 | 48 perception is reality. 新的psu leadership不会去追究的我想，就算有惊天内情又如
何，爆了对谁有好处？只有paterno一家会继续闹，但是大势已去，媒体都已经定论了，
你就算找出几个疑点又怎么样？媒体一样不会报道，否则不是打脸吗。
我觉得这个所谓worse than death的其实还可以，比我老当初竞猜的其实还轻呢。just
move on, and everyone is happy (except the paterno family).
就像我丐也move on了，很多人说JT其实是个替罪羊，but who cares anyway - it's w
ater under the bridge. it doesn't matter any more |
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发帖数: 585 | 49 我也倾向于认为Paterno看的很清楚，才选择不作为，因为警察查过也没有调查出什么
，所以这有可能让他和领导层认为不声张是最好的选择，现在人们都批评Paterno，但
是大家也别装圣人君子，把他当时的situation给处在他位置上的任何人，你觉得会有
人选择举报么？ |
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发帖数: 1416 | 50 paterno 老被 Lloyd Carr 克， 无论上狗下狗 都输
parerno 都不在呼， 还老说Lloyd Carr 的好话， 见面时双方都喜笑眼开，
paterno 和 Lloyd Carr 都是比较 elegant 人 |
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