K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 1 Too bad mine is Prince Magnesium Pro OS, the same line but one
level more flexible...
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 2 check your bbs mail.
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too... |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 3 Oh, it was sold at $149 back then, not the most expensive ones
like POG ($200). |
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t*******e 发帖数: 53 | 4 If you have one to spare, I would like to buy ... prefer 9/10 or above
condition...and prefer local transaction ( i am in bay area peninsula area
)..shipping is fine as long as I can receive it before 07/23
friday...Bought one from Bee and loved it..would like to collect another
one as backup... |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 5 本来已经不准备再买OS的拍子了,结果craiglist上看见有人卖
Prince Precision Graphite,图片太模糊,偶还以为是mid,
就去了,才发现是OS 110 (实际面积104),//sigh, 但又不好
意思嫌弃人家,于是买下。$10 for 2 rackets. 由于年代久远,
两把拍子的绝大多数grommet都断裂了,等线打断就不准备再绷了。
其他方面保养得很好,包括质量非常好的leather grip.
这个是Prince的第一款Precision Graphite,产于1983年,不是
后来的新版(例如加州洪帅哥用的那款)。只有一个Pro用过:
Pam Shriver.
Weight: 11.8 oz strung
measured 9 pt head light
现在偶总共有3把POG时代的拍子了:
Magnesium Pro OS (magnesium alloy)
2 x Precision Graphite OS (70% graphite 30% fiberglass)
还没有试打,但是不出意料感觉应该和Magnesium很相近:power
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 6 It's a good player racket but not as popular as POG or my spectrum.
It probably feels very heavy to swing since it's not very head light.
strings. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 7 Head Prestige Mid (any version), PS6.0, POG Mid.
Optional: Head i.Prestige XL MP |
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a****n 发帖数: 4734 | 8 这个拍子对比head L4 oversize 如何?我对这两个os狠有兴趣 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 10 Several times more than what I usually pay... |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 11 11 oz ver 12 oz, hehe. Just choose one whose weight is your preference. |
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d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 12 我觉得用OS的拍子比较没有control,就是打出去的球我不看到它落地,我都不知道会
落在哪里。而我使用现在的拍子,我靠球撞击和我动做的整体feed back,一出手我就
知道球大概会怎么飞行和落地。完全没有震动我觉得怎么感觉反馈呢? |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 13 Have you tried head light OS rackets? @_@ |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 14 No trick so far. I still couldn't install the Prestige grommet
onto my Graphite Pro, although it should be perfect fit.
It took me forever to install two bumper guards onto POG OS. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 15 Once you have two or more, you will know, hehe.
Before that, everything is a myth...
For me, my Sting measures at 12.8 oz and 7 pt head light, quite
different from other people's 12.6 oz (with overgrip), 7 pt head
light. I even tried two different scales to make sure it's not the
scale problem. The only thing I did was to add an overgrip. So the
naked racket either has a wrong weight or a wrong balance, or both.
Thus I know Wilson Sting does not have a good QC. (It was cheaper
than POG back then... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1 发帖数: 5654 | 16 POG is a great racket, i am using it too.. i like its backhand,
huge sweat spot! |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 17 hehe, PSC 6.1没那么老把。而且偶的POG是TW版本的,也就是说是目前还在卖版本。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 18 打到拍框上,球仍然不出界的唯一方法,就是使用box frame (横截面是矩形),
例如BLX90, POG,以及绝大多数thin beam的老拍。
圆边的拍框,mishit后十有八九要乱飞。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 19 前几天版上有一批木材派--tennisalways, aakk123等等,导致偶没有顶住
诱惑,买了一个Prince Woodie.
Weight: 13.8oz
Head Size: 号称110, 实际around 102 sq in
Stiffness: 35
7 pt head light
使用过的Pro: 萨巴蒂尼
Materials: wood reinforced with graphite
至此, Prince 1983年系列的拍子偶已经有了如下几款 (all oversize,
mid size was introduced later):
POG
Magnesium Pro
Precision Graphite
Woodie
J/R Pro
Classic和Pro见到过很多次,故意没买(不喜欢铝拍)。始终没见到过的有
Graphite Comp和Boron. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 20 Bad choice for POG OS, //sigh. I need some 15L. |
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c****1 发帖数: 5654 | 21
which is best for POG OS then? |
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f*********0 发帖数: 886 | 25 not true, racquet head speed are almost the same. And with some lighter
racquet I got the same dump silent feel as prostaff, like POG, head radical
mp. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 27 12.2 oz
5 pt HL
(偶自己的加了overgrip, head tape后12.5 oz, 6 pt HL)
106 sq in (官方声称107)
stiffness 72 (官方声称63)
19mm beam
100% graphite
优点:偶试过所有拍子中最舒适的,甜点巨大,震动为0,舒适感据说超过
POG mid. 这个拍型估计达到了舒适感最优化,自从发明后的30年居然没有
任何其他形状可以更舒适。
缺点:oversize, 所以不可能太暴力。但是这个拍子力量大,很适合中老年
wsn使用。 |
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J****0 发帖数: 2400 | 28 曾经有一把要价25的POG OS摆在我面前,我没有珍惜,等到失去时才后悔莫及。
人生最悲哀的事情莫过于此。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 29 和Wilson Mid系列没有可比性,只有偶这种器材派才会带一支Wilson Mid,
一支Head MP, 一支POG OS在包里。。。 |
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d******x 发帖数: 11837 | 30 试过 pog mid感觉非常软,不伤手。没感觉头轻。跟ps classic6.1是两个极端6.1硬得
象块铁板。。。 |
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a**s 发帖数: 9606 | 31 Prince only produce POG OS now I heard. I got mine (my LD using it now) from
sports authority pretty cheap. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 32 The power is rated low-medium on TW. To me that's already quite big,
hehe. Even POG mid would feel a little bit too powerful for me,
according to my experience with similar rackets.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 33 In fact, I am kinda numb to stiffness. The only stiff racket I can't
handle is PSC 6.1 95, stiffness 72, strung at 65 lbs. It's just an
iron board...
POG OS is supposed to be 72 also, but I feel extremely comfortable.
In my latest ben I was using a 67 racket, still feel OK, except too
powerful.
I am much more sensitive to the beam width. I hate PSC 6.1 majorly
due to the 21mm beam... |
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l*****n 发帖数: 633 | 34 给介绍介绍prince系列的拍子吧,POG, Ozone, O3, EXO3等。又有什么EXO3 red, blue
等又是啥?
为啥Ozone tour是你的dream racket,它和O3 tour(是一样的吗?),EXO3 tour相比如
何?
Ozone tour看参数好像很不错,跟你一样主要用LM Radical,所以想试一试16x18或
16x19的牌子,另外head-light,软一点,thin-beam也是考虑的因素。是不是现在不生
产了?那么EXO3 tour (16x18)是不是差不多或好点?tennis-warehouse的Ozone tour
是$99,但是只有4或5号拍子。你要能用是不是可以进一个。
另外Ozne或EXO3好不好穿线,能穿two-piece吗?
其它像Dunlop等有没有参数类似的拍子?
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 35 Prince所有不带tour字样的拍子基本上都是垃圾。只有tour line才是正儿八经
players racket.
Prince Tour (POG) 当然是最有名的一款,跟其他几个参数区别比较大。
剩下这几个,O3 Tour MP, OZone, EX03 Tour基本上是一样的,其中的细微差别
没有必要追究。O3 Tour MS (95) 稍有差别,更less power, less spin. 总的来说
这个系列和Radical感觉还是差别比较大的,spin的程度是天壤之别,甜点也是奇大,
但是不容易打出暴力球。Dunlop的tour line跟Radical更接近一点。
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 36 Anyway, this Spectrum's only similarity to the original Spectrum
Comp back in 1986 is the name. I have to agree this is trash to me
(but could be useful for people below 3.0).
The Spectrum Comp was one nice player's racket that's slightly more
powerful than POG. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 37 越大越重也可以,呵呵,比如偶的POG OS是106 sq in, 12.5 oz.
总之rule of thumb is to use the heaviest racket one can handle.
That gives you the maximum control/stability. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 38 偶的个人体会是,球拍感觉多重,不仅跟weight和balance有关,还跟拍头大小
有关。
偶个人的极限是12.5 oz, 90 sq in, 6 pt head light. 其中任何一个参数
超标,偶就挥不动了。
如果拍头更小,则偶可以顶住更重的拍子。比如85拍面8 pt HL偶可以顶住接近
13 oz. 81拍面偶可以顶住6 pt HL, > 13 oz.
如果拍头大,则偶就不行了,12.4 oz, 93拍面偶就觉得顶不住了。POG OS
107拍面,12.5 oz, 6 pt HL, 感觉基本只能当pusher, 挥不动啊。
所以前面有人提到Prince Rebel 95 vs Wilson BLX90, 偶虽然没有试过这两款,
但是估计可能Rebel会感觉更重一些。(实际重量12.3 oz vs 12.5 oz, 同样
9 pt HL) |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 39 I already mentioned I use anything between 80-110.
The 107 sq in POG is one of my favorite rackets.
The reason I don't like other OS rackets is that they are too
head heavy and too powerful. There aren't many head light OS
rackets out there.
advanced player in general sense. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 40 阿?难道上在POG OS上?17g的线好细啊,希望不要狂走。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 41 Prince Mid(例如POG)都是这德性。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 42 不偏门的都太贵啊。偶唯一几个还有点名气的拍子只有
Wilson Prostaff Classic 6.1 (16x18)
Prince Graphite Original Oversize
Wilson ROK
Wilson Prostaff 6.0 Mid 85 (China)
除了POG之外,其他几个都准备卖掉。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 44 墙烂了点。另外偷懒,没带三脚架,直接导致视角惨不忍睹。用的是POG OS.
漫长的雨季就只能这么练球了,555555. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 46 器材matters!
偶现在在车库里打墙,用Sting Mid + all poly根本无法练volley, 力量
太小了;用POG OS + syn gut根本无法练底线,力量太大了,很容易飞到
房顶上。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 48 偶坚决支持wellmoon.
对手低0.5: B90
对手相等:some MP
对手高0.5+: POG OS
对手高1.0+: Wilson Sledgehammer |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 49 平时都用咋办?
偶可以同一场比赛一会儿用POG OS, 一会儿用Sting 85, 比分没有多大区别。
当然打法有很大不同。 |
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d******x 发帖数: 11837 | 50 加个减震使劲打。。。
不过确实挺硬的,还是pog用着舒服。。。 |
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