s******g
发帖数: 3841 | 1 我一直觉得写proposal不应该占用很多时间，因为写proposal很花时间，且不是做
research。proposal写多了，势必写paper的时间就减少了
所以如果在资金能够支持lab运作的前提下，尽量少写proposal |
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u*****u
发帖数: 575 | 2 下面引自网络上一段关于投NSF的建议，老师们能否评论下这个建议对不对：
DO NOT submit essentially the same proposal to several programs. The
proposal will probably go to at least one duplicate reviewer, who will get
angry that you are burdening the system, will recommend that both proposals
be rejected, and will put a black mark next to your name.
现在funding的成功率越来越低了，一个proposal如果不能多个program试那岂不是成功
率更低了啊？！大家怎么看？谢谢！ |
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o****9
发帖数: 479 | 3 I have an NSF proposal which has been pending for 10 months since last July.
Nothing has been changed since submission. What may have happened to this
proposal?
Is it possible that a novel idea may sound too risky to NSF?
Is it possible that NSF just let it pending there until NSF can get some
assurance on the success, or until the proposer withdraws it voluntarily?
Can anyone share some experience and the final outcome on the long-pending
NSF proposals? |
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s********n
发帖数: 4346 | 4 As a panel reviewer, if i want to kill a reasonable proposal, i will give '
good'. If I think the proposal should generally be funded but not
necessarily this round, I will give " very good'. If I support the proposal
to be funded thi scycle, I will give "excellent'.
However, if I think a proposal is terrible (bad writing, no pilot data,
completely unreliable ideas, I will give 'fair'.
大家觉得哪？
划. |
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a********e
发帖数: 547 | 5 我有个想做的项目，需要合作者。我找到了一个我们领域有些名气的人，给他发了简单
介绍，说如果他感兴趣，可以把整个的proposal 给他看。等了好几天，也没回音，我
就把proposal 改了，删掉了合作者需要做的部分，只留下自己能做的部分，心想就这
样提交了算了。
谁知道今天他居然回信了，说自己非常感兴趣，让我给他发整个的proposal。 我马上
就给他发了。发完后心里有点嘀咕，万一他把我的proposal 当成自己的提交了怎么办
？会不会出现这样的事情呢？这个老头64岁了，应该名利心也不会太强，不会做这样的
事吧？
大家说说！ |
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发帖数: 1 | 6 当然写过,这里分两个层面讨论
第一，我写的都是从无到有，从0到1的那种proposal.都是首次突破性的，用的数据都
是raw data，需要把这些data给清洗了，甚至进行数据分布了，才能用。否则做出来的
数据根本就是noise。
第二，results是指结论性的内容，包括但是不限于数据结果，而你说的是data only。
第三，按照楼主和你的思路，显然是想进行一个延续性的proposal. 这也是可行性之一
。不过这种方式，通常都是在一开始就有了长期稳定的规划基础上，比如总共十年的预
期研究，一环扣一环的，前面三年我做第一步，后面七年我完成第二步和第三步。如果
真是这种情况，也是可以，不过楼主的问题，话里话外的含义，显然不像是有一个相当
清晰的长远研发的path
：你显然没写过Proposal。Proposal里有一项叫preliminary data, 可以用未发表的结
果或者已发表的结果。楼主有可能说抄已发表的结果的段落，也有可能楼主想抄他文章
中理论的部分，比如introduction部分或者discussion 部分的内容.
： |
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w********d
发帖数: 1131 | 8 从trackitt一个烙印
http://www.trackitt.com/usa-discussion-forums/i140/1618366351/i
I have attended for little over an hour.
Basically, Aman kapok has clearly mentioned (He and his team attended couple
of meetings with WH & USCIS) that there is a cartel which forced USCIS to
mold the the actual rule and here we have the outcome.
IV received a memo, which they shared on FB as well (which supposed to be
rule but ....),
During Sept/Oct timeframe, USCIS started molding what they mentioned in the
memo due ... 阅读全帖 |
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n****g
发帖数: 14743 | 9 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: flyingpie (pie), 信区: USANews
标 题: Illinois Senate Passes 'Sanctuary State' Proposal
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 9 11:18:41 2017, 美东)
CHICAGO, IL — The Illinois Senate passed a bill aimed at encouraging
cooperation between undocumented immigrants and state law enforcement
agencies while discouraging unwarranted cooperation between federal
immigration. The Trust Act, sponsored by Senate President John Cullerton (D-
Chicago), passed 31-21 Thursday and will be taken up by ... 阅读全帖 |
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k********o
发帖数: 236 | 10 New Fares Proposed to Take Effect May 1, 2010
The NJ TRANSIT Board of Directors will consider a proposal to increase fares
on Wednesday, April 14, 2010. If approved, new fares would take effect on
May 1, 2010.
Please note that fares, schedules and ticketing policies presented on this
website and in printed timetables are subject to change.
Customers are advised that off-peak roundtrip (ORT) tickets may be
discontinued as part of the budget proposal. If the proposal is approved,
ORT tickets wil |
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Q*K
发帖数: 3464 | 11 SEATTLE—A proposed income tax on the wealthy in Washington state is
spurring a debate over the region's economic future and dividing some of its
most prominent figures, including Microsoft Corp. chief executive Steve
Ballmer and William Gates Sr., the father of Microsoft chairman Bill Gates.
If Washington voters approve the measure, known as initiative 1098, on
Tuesday, it will be the first income tax in the state. No income-tax-free
state has passed one since the early 1990s.
The proposal calls... 阅读全帖 |
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t******4
发帖数: 2300 | 12 WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama's proposed budget will call for
reductions in the growth of Social Security and other benefit programs while
still insisting on more taxes from the wealthy in a renewed attempt to
strike a broad deficit-cutting deal with Republicans, a senior
administration official says.
The proposal aims for a compromise on the Fiscal 2014 budget by combining
the president's demand for higher taxes with GOP insistence on reductions in
entitlement programs.
The official,... 阅读全帖 |
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V********n
发帖数: 305 | 14 最近在帮老板审小fellowship grant。有感于MD和PhD背景申请人proposal的巨大区别
。MD（当然是美国本土的，至少也是考了板的）的申请preliminary数据少，实验设计
简单，大多没有potential pitfall的讨论，整个proposal感觉很草草就完成了；另MD
申请人一般没什么文章。PhD的Proposal预实验数据狂多，很多是课题已经做完一半才
来申请（个人感觉也许课题都基本完成了），实验设计花哨，论证严密，面面俱到，研
究意义更是吹得天花乱坠。
不过，最后的资助情况也许MD还占优些。现在对MD背景搞研究是很鼓励的。PhD们连搞
科研的路都很窄啊。 |
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j****1
发帖数: 81 | 15 Well, they said in the departmental guideline that "You are strongly advised
to have your written proposal read critically by another student or postdoc
, but beware the "friend" who only has good things to say: What you seek is
constructive criticism, and the ability to provide constructive criticism is
an acquired skill many of your peers may lack."
At another place in the guideline "Most importantly - Find a mentor or guide
to help you think through your ideas. Discuss the science over and ov... 阅读全帖 |
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n*********4
发帖数: 99 | 16 NEW YORK (GenomeWeb News) – The federal budget for fiscal year 2014 that
the Obama Administration released yesterday includes a request for $31.3
billion to fund the National Institutes of Health, which would be an
increase of 1.5 percent over the budget it received in FY 2012, the last
year the government passed a complete budget. In the current fiscal year,
the government is funded under a continuing resolution that provided $30.8
billion for NIH.
The funding proposal in the White House plan d... 阅读全帖 |
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s****9
发帖数: 932 | 17 如题，非常痛苦的在写proposal，小字辈，和版上大牛不能比。
第一次自己写NIH proposal。新的proposal要求和老的不同，Proposal分三部分：
significance，Innovation，和approach。Approach比较容易理解，signficance和
innovation写作的侧重点有何不同？ |
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g********0
发帖数: 6201 | 18 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
发信人: wilfredwang (wilfred), 信区: Faculty
标 题: 好好的家庭出游被proposal给毁了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 3 09:46:40 2014, 美东)
一个proposal这个星期due,我是一小co-pi. 为了上个周末的家庭出游,提前就把我的
section写好,交给PI,还反复问有没有需要改的地方. 一直没有回音,就以为都妥当了.
谁知,周六早上全家一上路,就开始收到email说要改这儿改那儿.到了hotel,太太带孩子
出去玩,我还得在hotel里从早写到晚,后来还被太太骂,"以后出来不好好玩,就别出来了
!"
我说我也不想这样呀!我也想和孩子们一起玩儿呀!可这真是人在academia,身不由已呀!
家里总得有个人挣面包钱吧! 就这样,在hotel里忙活了两天,现在还在忙呢! 感情写
proposal的都是最后一秒努力呀! 看来以后得避开proposal due的前一个星期出游了.
现在感觉自己投错行了,可能一辈子都没时间陪孩子玩儿了,不想让孩子以后和我一样! |
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n*******3
发帖数: 128 | 19 楼主，我想给你说句心里话，这样的lab，还是不要去了，我以前找过博士后，也遇到
这样的lab，这样的老板，说实话我也傻傻的仔仔细细地去写去做什么proposal，现在
想来，真是有一种让人骗的感觉
1 写完之后，对方长时间没有回复，忍不住问了几次，对方回复简单的几句就是不行，
给不出任何意见
2 我们找的是博士后工作，每个人都受过十几年教育吧，却拿着比本科生还少的工资，
受着老板的欺压，现在连面个试都还要各种选拔，凭什么这么苛刻？我不认为如果一个
PI只是面试而没有偷idea想法要你做这个proposal有什么用？花那么多时间精力，不值
3 我后来合作的lab一起举办的内部会议，隔壁老板就拿着面试候选人给的idea在一起
讨论着这些意见可以用到我们lab的未来实验中去，但我清楚的知道，最后提出这些
proposal的候选博士后却没有招他
总而言之一句话，这种lab建议你别去，不值，更不配
博士后的位置吗，只要你找，不用这样绝对也能找到，而你费时费力去做了什么
proposal，也很可能是去了 |
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b**********d
发帖数: 621 | 20 国内美女硕士征善写Proposal之优秀男士
一认识的国内同学的师妹目前正准备申请一所国外大学，申请要求中需要一篇大约1000
字的教育心理学方面的PROPOSAL。该MM由于一直在读书（硕士刚刚毕业，现在大学教书
），从来没接触过什么PROPOSAL的写作的事，因此想找高手指点一下，听听这方面的意
见，最好能先捉刀一下。该MM是我同学的好朋友，25岁，本人也见过，确实是个美女。
大约1米六，面目娟秀，身材很好，而且很纯洁（经过其周围之众男女较长期观察的一
致结论），估计很多人会喜欢这类的MM。其家境和教育环境也都一直比较好。能被其看
上的男士或许能以一个PROPOSAL就换得“抱得美人归”的结果哦！她的EMAIL：
j*******[email protected]。请直接给她写信，勿回本人信箱。 |
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a***n
发帖数: 578 | 21 多谢鼓励,赫赫.
为什么不在写PROPOSAL是有原因的.以后你会碰到的.
不过说说为前车之谏吧.
因为你的PROPOSAL会被很多SENIOR的PPL看到,有些时候因为看到的IDEA太多,他们都忘记
是你的IDEA或他们自己的IDEA.
我有两个去年PROPOSED的IDEAS就最近发在JACS上,以前写一堆PROPOSAL是让CV好看,反正
现在可以了,就不会再写了.
能
。
， |
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b*****h
发帖数: 3386 | 22 【 以下文字转载自 Investment 讨论区 】
发信人: stockdemon (返璞归真), 信区: Investment
标 题: Obama’s proposal on banks
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jan 21 12:26:03 2010, 美东)
From bloomberg
"The proposal would:
1. Limit the Scope-The President and his economic team will work with
Congress to ensure that no bank or financial institution that contains a
bank will own, invest in or sponsor a hedge fund or a private equity fund,
or proprietary trading operations unrelated to serving customers for its own
profit.
2. Limit the Size... 阅读全帖 |
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u****p
发帖数: 25 | 23 对. 另外,还有两点,
1. 如果能要到一些最近的方向和你接近的CAREER Proposal,会很有帮助的.
2. 如果能参加NSF review panel也会很有帮助的.主要是看了一堆proposal后,就能感
觉到好proposal和一般proposal的差别在那里. |
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L******f
发帖数: 5368 | 24 NEW YORK (Reuters) – The Obama administration will propose a wind-down of
government-controlled mortgage buyers Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, according
to documents obtained by Reuters.
The White House proposed three long-term options to reduce the government's
role in the housing market and took several shorter term steps aimed at
raising the cost of government-backed mortgages.
KEY POINTS: * Report recommends phasing in higher pricing for Fannie,
Freddie to level even with private sector over se... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 25 Douglas County Colorado Proposal Seeks to Terminate Collective Bargaining of
Teachers' Unions
by n*****[email protected] (Mike Mish Shedlock)
Three members of the Douglas County School Board have floated proposals to
terminate dealings with teacher's unions.
Three board members proposed three separate ballot questions, each
chipping away at what have been traditional district-union relationships in
the affluent county south of Denver.
Should the district be prohibited from using public f... 阅读全帖 |
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j********d
发帖数: 157 | 26 What if the gov can re-align so that the proposal of spending and revenue
collection (mostly tax rate) are NOT determined in one single budget? Both R
(共和党, or people alike who prefer small gov) and D, each have two
proposals: spending-R and revenue-R, spending-D and revenue-D (which not
need to be balanced)? Then, vote to pick up the spending-2013 (spending-R or
spending-D) and revenue-2013(revenue-R or revenue-D), the vote first take
place in congress and senate and require 2/3 majority to pas... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 27 By KENNETH GARGER and CARL CAMPANILE
Posted: 5:16 PM, December 3, 2012
We’ll lift a pint to this.
Gov. Cuomo today shot down a state health panel’s sobering proposals to
increase taxes on booze, slash the number of new bars and liquor stores and
limit the hours of gin joints.
“The governor doesn’t support raising this tax, or the other measures,”
said state Health Department spokesman Bill Schwarz.
The rejection from Cuomo’s office came hours after The Post reported that
the New York Sta... 阅读全帖 |
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f*******e
发帖数: 3433 | 28 CHICAGO, IL — The Illinois Senate passed a bill aimed at encouraging
cooperation between undocumented immigrants and state law enforcement
agencies while discouraging unwarranted cooperation between federal
immigration. The Trust Act, sponsored by Senate President John Cullerton (D-
Chicago), passed 31-21 Thursday and will be taken up by the House this week.
“If someone is going to be detained in Illinois it should be because an
actual crime has occurred, not because of how they look, what they ... 阅读全帖 |
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f*******e
发帖数: 3433 | 29 原来眼泪把墙换DACA的proposal收回了。LOL。接下来GOP只要不停的propose
wall 换 DACA EAD 或者 wall+chain＋lottery换DACA path to green card就好了，
然后让DEM不停vote no, 最后DACA还不被DEM气死。
A Schumer aide confirmed to Fox News on Tuesday that the leader withdrew his
offer of a boost in funding for the president’s proposed border wall. It
was initially made during negotiations over the government spending bill
with the president last Friday, the aide said. |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 31 我们学校的人说是３年前。不过NSF网站上说的０８年１０月１日
http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2009/nsf09038/nsf09038.jsp#iapdp
16. If a previously declined proposal is now being considered for Recovery
Act funding, how will that process work?
In addition to in-house proposals, NSF also will consider funding
proposals declined on or after October 1, 2008, with Recovery Act funds. The
reversal of the decision to decline must be based on both the high quality
of the reviews received on the initial submission and the lack of availabl |
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w********d
发帖数: 270 | 32 In the CAREER proposal, should I use "we" or "I"? such as... "we proposed to
do....", or "I propose to do....". Which way is better and more persuasive?
Anybody wants to share some comments on it? thanks. |
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l*****k
发帖数: 5933 | 33 慢工出细活：）我16个月也只投了两个。中了一个。
俺的目标就是一年两个。但是认真准备。为写PROPOSAL而写PROPOSAL不是为了赶
DEADLINE写PROPOSAL |
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j**i
发帖数: 245 | 34 idea一模一样，我写proposal的时候人家都投了稿了。
是不是申请faculty就没戏了，虽然都投了两个proposal，但自己更看重这个
万一有机会讲proposal可咋说啊。 |
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s********y
发帖数: 200 | 35 I submitted a proposal to NSF last Sep, Engineering, under Chemical,
Bioengineering, Environmental, and Transport Systems (CBET). 大家都有消息了
吗? Since the next submission window is almost due, Feb 1-March 3, i am
thinking of revising the proposal and re-submitting it again.
I wrote to the Program Manager a week ago asking the status of my proposal.
He replied as : the review process was completed. However, I am not allow
to tell you the results until the division finalizes them, which may take a
fe |
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s****r
发帖数: 146 | 36 proposal命中率太低了,能不能把相似的proposal投到不同的funding agencies?
有这么干的吗?
会不会对proposal产生负面影响? |
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c**********0
发帖数: 836 | 37 Not yet, but I plan to talk to him face-by-face so that I can show him
the comments and the corresponding parts of the proposal (e.g., the
issues the panel said that we did not consider at all and the subsections
where we addressed those issues). The panel summary also contains
conflicts: one comment said that we did not have sth and another comment
said that we have it but it is not good enough. I am not going to ask
him to reconsider the proposal, but I hope he will try to manage proposal
re |
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y****c
发帖数: 875 | 38 有一个项目，纯理论的，我断断续续做了有3年了。现在基本上差不多了，组织一下可
以写一篇比较好的
journal paper。
现在手头没有其它好的idea，我又想拿这个投个NSF proposal试试。听别人说投
Proposal最好有
journal paper做支持。现在纠结如何处理这个proposal和 paper的内容。
如果把所有做的东西在paper里都抖搂出去，那prposal reviewer 看了会不会觉得这个
你都做完
了，还申请什么钱呢？据的可能性是不是就很大了。 |
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s*********l
发帖数: 21 | 39 请问 NSF IIS 的small project proposals, medium project proposals, 和 large
project proposal 是同时评审的吗？多谢！ |
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l*******s
发帖数: 3562 | 40 据我知道，他们没有Panel，可能有Reviewer，但是Program manager有完全决定权，re
viewer的意见只做参考。
我试过的是投White Paper给program manager，你难道直接投的Full Proposal？是有c
all for proposal的吗？
proposal |
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b**********0
发帖数: 53 | 41 Panel date was Oct. 4, and status date has not been updated after the panel.
This is for a CAREER proposal (for my third time).
My first CAREER proposal (in 2007) and two other regular proposals have been
rated as Competitive but not funded, and it is my fifth year now. I am
thinking whether I should mention these. Any advice?
Thanks a lot,
BH |
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b**********0
发帖数: 53 | 42 Don't feel too bad. I was in the same situation, but just got my career
funded after three competitive propsals not being funded in the past.
Acutally, tonight, I just learned that my another "compettive" proposal is
declines because of some misundertanding in the panel review. I learned that
how to best present the proposal is very important, because our proposals
may well be reviewed by people who are not experts in our specific areas and
who may also be opinonated. |
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b**********0
发帖数: 53 | 43 I think this may be dependent on program/dvision. For instance, in CISE CNS,
many "competitive" proposals are funded. In the several panels I attended,
usually only 1-2 are rated as highly competitive, and there are usually 3-4
competitive proposals that may be funded.
On the other hand, things appear to be different in CISE IIS. My colleague
just got a "highly competitive" proposal declined there. In CNS, I have not
heard this happened to any one.
Any different experience? |
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h*****d
发帖数: 112 | 44 This is not true for IIS. There are only about 30% proposals which are
either "HR" or "R". The PO can choose to fund a "R" proposal over a "HR"
proposal.
avail
能被 |
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a*****y
发帖数: 269 | 45 好的proposal肯定可以帮你拿到面试
面试离offer还很远, 至少我的专业. 一般都会面试6-8个人.
所以我感觉很多面试的地方只是感觉你proposal好, 让你来见见.
我面试的时候问到过你为什么不是牛校的phd, 为什么没有big paper(CNS)之类的
甚至有中国faculty直接说你的publication不怎么好(当然那个人是个asshole, 大家都
知道)
背景没有办法改变, 但是proposal现在还可以把握.
我面试了10几个学校才拿到offer. 因为确实很难beat其他名校毕业(但我的薄厚老板也
是大牛) 有CNS的竞争者.你得比他们
显得强很多才行, 但实际上不容易.
要我来选人, 我也会直观挑选有大fellowship(halen hey etc)有CNS, HYSBC这些名校
名组的学生. 而且系里面要你去面试,
很大可能没有人和你同一领域. 所以背景好, 你画得饼才会有人信. |
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P*******D
发帖数: 523 | 46 顶一下这个。
其实各个学校不一样，有的看你的proposal，有的我去了明确说没看过我proposal，就
等我讲
了。
所以，能不能拿到interview，老板名气，publication，working area很重要。
拿offer，那就很多因素了，presentation, interpersonal skills, and proposed
study。
最重要的还是luck。我最后去的那个地方，和我竞争的一个candidate手里有一个刚刚
拿到的
R01，但是offer最后给我了。我都觉得他们脑子短路了，所以luck很重要。
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l*******s
发帖数: 3562 | 47 太正常了
最近的一个Nets Panel, 14个Proposal只Recommended了一个
没中的人家总得找点理由把你拒了
越好的proposal越得打低分才能把你排除在外
要不我要挺的Proposal怎么能上呢! |
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发帖数: 41 | 48 我两个月前写了一个proposal申请校内的postdoc fellowship,自己的评估是应该有机
会拿到这个
fellowship,因为这个proposal是我自己的idea, 我有做出初步的结果
但上周收到一封committee寄的信,很礼貌的说虽然我的proposal很不错,但因为申请者
高度竞争,我
申请的fellowship没有被接受
老板说这种校内的Fellowship有很多subjective和political的因素, 并不是the best或
在 top-10% level就可以拿得到, 请问各位faculty真的是这样吗? |
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发帖数: 238 | 49 现在可以申请funding的就NSF,NIH。千军万马过过独木桥。感觉申请grant中的概率比
申请faculty的还低。申请者都是聪明人，钱就那么点。
版上的大牛们，可以提供一些经验吗：
1）大家的idea都是怎样想出来的。我想了一些idea，发现别人都做过了。
2）合作者怎样找？NSF是不是合作者越多越好。
3）写proposal有什么tips呀。我现在就像写论文那样处理proposal，但感觉proposal
的要求高不少。
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发帖数: 875 | 50 NSF proposal 又被据了,虽然无奈但也没有出乎意料.
看了一下评语,4个reviewer的comments其实都很positive,每个人都说这个research is
novel,important and will have broad impacts in industry.
被据的理由是: 1, 没有industry的 support letter
2. 没有 outreach 的 support letter
3. PI和Co-PI分工不明确.
其实我是交了1和2的support letter的,我自己都可以在fastlane里看到. 3 也不是什
么大不了的问题,其实proposal里也写的比较具体了,只是reviewer没怎么仔细看.
我现在想能不能去和PO argue一下啊.明明我交了support letter的,为什么reviewer没
看到,都说没有.
这个proposal已经是第二次交了. 第一次panel review的comments也都完全address
了,质量应该没问题.感觉死在意外原因了.
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