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发帖数: 9485 | 1
审判是按照人的行为和心意的。善有善报，恶有恶报。行为越好就越得到神的鼓励奖赏
。但行为不是导致救恩的要素，是神的恩典，因为人不能救自己，复活要靠神，救恩计
划也是神定的，但即便在千禧年复活人当中，还是有不同国度的。这样的安排很公平，
鼓励人遵守诫命，鼓励人行善。
今世的不公平在千禧年就都得以疏解，所以圣经又将千禧年称为“安舒的日子”。
times of refreshing
使徒行传2：19 所以你们当悔改归正，使你们的罪得以涂抹，这样，那安舒的日子，就
必从主面前来到。
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out,
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发帖数: 9567 | 2 【创世记 Genesis 6:6 - 耶和华就后悔造人在地上，心中忧伤。】
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/TrustInJesus/42371_0.html
hnfz的解经：
耶和华在造人之前，到底是否知道他们会犯罪，如果知道，为什么要做，为什么做了又
后悔？
后悔，repent，对人来说，是指心意的改变。例子：我做了一件事，发现不该做，哎，
要早知道，我就不做了。这就是后悔。人后悔是因为事先不知道，如果事先知道一定不
会做。
而圣经中说到神的后悔，则是另一个概念。和人不一样，神知道一切的事，所以圣经中
说到 神后悔，是因为神有怜悯、慈爱，不做原本要做的事，或者为着公义，施行审判
。说神后悔，是因为人词语的有限，无法完全表达神的意思。人的词语真是太有限了！
就像保罗在林后12章里说到：我认识一个在基督里的人，他十四年前被提到第三层天上
去。（是带着身体被提的呢？我不知道，是离开了身体呢？我也不知道，只有上帝知道
。）我认识这个人，（是带着身体被提，还是在身体以外被提，我都不知道，只有上帝
知道。）他被提到乐园里去，听见了难以言喻的话，那是人不可以说的。同样... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 325 | 3 在索多玛，蛾摩拉即将被毁灭之前，两个天使问罗得：
“你在这里还有什么人吗？”
“将女婿，儿女，这里一切属你的人都带出去。”
从这些对话中可以看出来，神多么希望人能够得救，不仅本人得救，连家人亲人一切属
我们的人（按我个人理解就是我们所爱的所有的人），都能够一起得救，因为神怜恤我
们爱家人爱亲人爱朋友的心。
然而，磨蹭了一晚上，罗得的两个女婿不信。快到天亮，罗得还在磨蹭。（这个磨蹭的
过程象极了现在的人在信与不信之间的犹豫的过程）
磨蹭够了，没有时间了，到了天亮，是两个天使，拉着罗得的手，拉着罗得妻子的手，
拉着罗得两个女儿的手，将他们拉了出来，安置在城外。(创19:16）
这是神拉住他们，要他们得救。
然而，罗得的妻子，不愿意听神的话，回头看了。神一再愿意拯救，一再拉住，人却按
照自己的决定，不愿意听神的话，最终，这是一个个人的决定，人，就像罗得的妻子，
只好按照她个人的决定，接受她的决定所造成的结局。
神并不希望人灭亡，所以他这样说：
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发帖数: 5754 | 4 good point.
unless 人 learns our lessons, we won't repent. |
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发帖数: 1911 | 6 加尔文主义者的定义，是持有tulip信条的人，不管你是否自认为是加尔文主义的追随者
。很多加尔文主义者不承认自己是加尔文派，比如他们这么说：我是耶稣的追随者，只
是我自己读经的心得，“恰好”符合tulip信条。
按理说，这里的华人基督徒都是福音派的，不会全面支持tulip，可我恰恰发现这里的j
ym，永生等人经常介绍传授加尔文主义，并且建议别人读加尔文的著作。
现在我在这里批评加尔文主义，加尔文派都禁声了。土豆说我打风车，这里真的没有tu
lip主义者？还是胆怯的躲起来了。当然我知道土豆不是加尔文主义者，这里不活跃的基
督徒基本都不是，活跃的基本都是。
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发帖数: 5754 | 8
IMHO, Jesus Christ is God and He doesn't need to seek Glory. However, for
the benefit of sinners, He needs to 显出神的荣耀来 in this case so the
sinners may repent and be saved.
On the contrary, the greatest pain would be suffered by the sinners who
refuse to accept Jesus Christ as the only Savior.
if the meaning of each word in natural language is exactly the same
regardless of the context, those who study computational linguistics would
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发帖数: 38403 | 9 【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: leonana (leonany), 信区: Belief
标 题: How to Persuade a Christian to Become Atheist
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jun 6 03:22:40 2011, 美东)
Steps
1
Are you prepared? You have to give them a real reason - not just an
emotional one. However, you have to realize that many of their reasons
for being a Christian are emotional, so be ready to show atheism in an
emotionally positive light.
2
Think about your friendship. Are the two of you close? If not, try to
increase your friendship b... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 10 this seems to be the view of Arminianism
http://www.the-highway.com/compare.html
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The Holy Spirit Can Be Effectually Resisted
The Spirit calls inwardly all those who are called outwardly by the
gospel invitation; He does all that He can to bring every sinner to
salvation. But inasmuch as man is free, he can successfully resist the
Spirit's call. The Spirit cannot regenerate the sinner until he believes;
faith (which is man's contribution) precedes and makes possible the new
birth. Thus... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 11
Considering the following two parables Jesus Christ gave related to
salvation:
The Parable of the Lost Coin
Luke 15:8-10
8 “Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she
light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? 9 And
when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbors together and says,
‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.’ 10 In the same way, I tell
you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner
who... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 13 may god condemn calvinists
calvinists repent! |
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发帖数: 10018 | 14 确切地说，confess（认罪或告解）与repent（悔改）是不同的。
罗马天主教引用约翰福音二十23：“你们赦免谁的罪，谁的罪就赦免了”，以及马太福
音十六19：“凡你在地上释放的，必是在诸天之上已经释放的”等经节作为告解仪礼的
支持。但是这里的赦罪与释放并不是说，只有神职人员才够资格。事实上，这里是说，
我们要彼此赦免，如太六14：“你们若赦免人的过犯，你们的天父也必赦免你们。”因
为如果我们如果不赦免别人的罪，基督用死完成的救赎就没有意义了。
但是，这只是圣经真理的一面。在另一面，我们在得到赦免的同时，还需要悔改。主耶
稣的福音乃是悔改的福音，“因为诸天的国已经临近了。”（太三2）这里的悔改不是
后悔认错的意思，而是“心思转变”。罗马书八6说，“心思置于肉体，就是死；心思
置于灵，乃是生命平安。”说的是同样一个意思。
简单地说，我们人生中的每一个经历，都是让我们回转向神的机会。有弟兄说得好，基
督徒的秘诀乃是“不是不失败，只是转得快”。我想这就是悔改的真谛了。 |
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发帖数: 1911 | 15 there is one rule in main-stream christianity. ppl cannot discipline thems
elves. read "Romans 6:14 For sin shall not be your master, because you are
not under law, but under grace." therefore a christian under grace can sin
anytime and repent later.
These main-stream christians often look down upon mornmns and JWs because th
ey are so disciplined. So mornons and JWs are thought to be "justfication b
y deeds".
so called christians, do you understand what is "justfication by faith"? Ca
n a ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9485 | 16 The Prophet Joseph Smith gave this commentary on the power of Satan: “All
beings who have bodies have power over those who have not. The devil has no
power over us only as we permit him. The moment we revolt at anything which
comes from God, the devil takes power” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph
Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1938],
p. 181).
Elder Spencer W. Kimball explained how Heavenly Father can help us overcome
Satan:
“He who has greater strength than ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 17 1 John 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours
but also for the sins of the whole world.
note "the whole world"
calvinists, repent! |
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发帖数: 3781 | 19 eternal punishment is only prepared for Satan and his evil followers
I suppose they are calvinists
repent! calvinists |
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发帖数: 3781 | 20 you so called main stream christians want to sin everyday and repent every n
ight. you call it "justfication by faith"
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发帖数: 3781 | 21 【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: sparty (I write; therefore I am), 信区: Belief
标 题: Re: 成圣是个过程
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jul 5 20:00:55 2011, 美东)
怎么会没有区别？
是你说圣灵会离开，你又说“订立圣约的人，圣灵常住信徒心里”。你还说必须要什么“有权柄的弟兄”做“浸礼”，才能有“圣灵”住进来。
我说的是，圣灵--the loving and positive energy in the universe，原本、并永远都在每个人心里，永不离开。因为你所谓的“圣约”，只是宗教仪式而已，根本不是必须的。人类是一个整体，所有人都血肉相连，“神”岂会只与某些人立约？不，我们原本都由神--MotherNature--宇宙能量的源头而生，“神”岂会有什么chosen people?
不肯悔改的谋杀犯，一样有圣灵在心里。他不肯听从罢了。但是你我非神，又如何得知别人最后到底有没有悔改/回向？佛说放下屠刀，立地成佛。耶稣说，十字架上与他同订的强盗，直接就凭信进入天堂。那两个强盗有什么洗... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 22 thanks for sharing. But hadn't the author repented at the end and became a "
true" believer of Jesus? So his/her personal story does support the belief
that "once saved, always saved".
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发帖数: 3781 | 23 正统？
you distorted the teaching of Jesus
you need to stay away from calvinism
you need to read John 3:16 and repent to God
道来
理？ |
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发帖数: 3781 | 25 http://blog.guidedbytruth.com/johnthreesixteen.php
In order to believe in Calvinistic theology, a person must explain why the n
ormal text of a passage simply does not say what it appears to say. John 3:1
6 is probably the most popular Bible verse in all the world, and yes, by tha
t I mean the entire world. I could be wrong, but needless to say, many peopl
e, even non-Christians, know this verse by heart. However, according to Calv
inists, this verse does not really mean exactly what it says. To... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1059 | 26 第六章 自我省察的必要
「你们总要自己省察有信心没有，也要自己试验。」
（哥林多后书13:5）
柏克司说得对:「要全心归向神是十分艰难罕得的功夫……改邪归正是一番稀罕的功夫。
」[70] 保罗要求哥林多人在神面前省察他们自己的心，看看他们究竟是否真实得救了。
虽然他是在哥林多开创了教会，当他给他们写信时他却不以为凡事会想当然地顺利，乃
是说:「你们总要自己省察有信心没有；也要自己试验！」（哥林多后书13:5）。若是一
个人沾沾自喜而随意说:「灵魂啊，你放心吧！」却实际上是遭神所憎恶的，这该是何等
可怕的状态阿！然而，世上大多数人正是处于这种状态之中。
一个人在今生所当解决的最大问题就是，到底他属于神不是。「您是更新重生了或不是
呢？」这才是关键，因为基督透过尼哥底母告诉我们:「我实实在在的告诉你，人若不重
生就不能见神的国」（约翰福音3:3）。可见一个人的永远命运像是放在天平上，就看你
如何解决这个关键问题了。
什么叫做更新重生呢？更新重生就是神的圣灵将那来自神的属灵生命，传递给一个原先
死在过犯罪恶中的人。有一位古时的作家曾经这样描述过:「那是神的灵借着神的道所作
成的工，叫人得救... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 27 Our concern is for the defense (against the Calvinists) of the character of
the true God, the God of mercy and love whose "tender mercies are over all h
is works" (Psalms 145:9). The Bible declares that He is "not willing that an
y should perish, but that all should come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9); "who
will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth"
(1 Timothy 2:4). Such is the God of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation.
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发帖数: 9485 | 28 thanks for sharing,appreciate your insight.
salvation is a choice, it is a gift, anyone can decide---if you wanted to
repent your sins, gladly accept Jesus's atonement, or, stand in from of God,
and take the sinful deeds you did upon yourself.
salvation is a merciful and loving arrangement for all people, anyone can
accept it, anyone can be converted.
there is great judgement day in the future---after millennium, according
everyone's works and deeds and their wills.meanwhile Jesus will start to
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发帖数: 1911 | 29 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 派别之争 calvinism is a cult
you need to repent |
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发帖数: 4956 | 30 我如何能认识神？
HOW CAN I KNOW GOD?
June, 1991
作者：提摩太?凯乐（TIM KELLER）
译者：唐兴 /校对：诚之
什么是基督教？有人说是它一种哲学，也有人说它是一种道德的立场，甚至还有人说它
实际上是一种经历。然而，这些说法都无法触及其核心。虽然每一种说法都讲到了基督
教的某个部分，但是，这些都不是基督教的定义。基督教的核心是人与神之间的一种交
换（transaction）。当一个人成为基督徒的时候，他就从远处对神的认识，移近至直接
或亲密地认识神。基督教就是认识神。
What is Christianity? Some say it is a philosophy, others say it is an ethic
al stance, while still others claim it is actually an experience. None of th
ese things really gets to the heart of the matter, however. Each is somethin
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发帖数: 3781 | 33 calvinists all go to hell
you repent and save you and your family! |
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发帖数: 10018 | 34 有恒是不可能的。基督徒的秘诀在于repent，不是不失败，只是转得快。 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 35 no use
christians did all kind of bad things
repent and God won't listen anymore
Jesus only died for you once
you sin again, you are not children of God |
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发帖数: 3781 | 37 Facing A Real Dilemma
The gospel Peter and Paul and the other apostles preached was for everyone i
n the audiences they faced, wherever they went: it was not a message which o
nly the elect could believe. Peter told Cornelius and his family and friends
, "And he [Christ] commanded us to preach unto the people [not to a select g
roup].... that ... whosoever [among the people to whom He preached] believet
h in him shall receive remission of sins" (Acts 10:42-43).
In contrast, Calvin's gospel says ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1776 | 38 神學教育典範﹕神學生必讀書目
A CLASSIC SEMINARY EDUCATION:
My Recommended Reading List
What the 21st century longs and needs to see, are Christians and
churches w
ho have a message to proclaim. Do you know what you believe? Building one
's own theological foundation is a life time task. It may involve going to s
eminary, or it may not. Not everyone has that opportunity. Sadly, very oft
en a seminary degree does not mean a solid foundation in the doctrines of th
e Bible. However you can launch ou... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1776 | 39 SYSTEMATIC THEOLOGY: THEMES 系統神學﹕專題
Doctrine of the Knowledge of God / Doctrine of Revelation / Doctrine of Scri
pture
認識神﹐啟示論﹐聖經論
John Frame, The Doctrine of the Knowledge of God (Phillipsburg, NJ:
Presbyt
erian and Reformed, 1987). Translation into Chinese in progress, China Hori
zon
這是當代改革宗一本立場穩固﹐思路清晰﹐對福音派 (改革宗以外) 人士採溫和態
度的 "啟示論" 教科書。作者曾在耶魯大學攻讀邏輯﹐多年來在威敏斯特神學院 (費
城校本部﹐和加州校園) 任教﹐近年來在改革宗神學院任系統神學教授。
巴刻在<<基要主義與神的道>>裡為聖經的權威辯護﹐也處理了信心與理性的關
係。本書
的著作﹐是為了回應1950年代英國聖公會自由派的一位主教攻擊基要派。因此... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1776 | 40 The Committee on Christian Education
of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church
THE
CONFESSION OF FAITH
AND CATECHISMS
The Westminster Confession of Faith and Catechisms
as adopted by
The Orthodox Presbyterian Church
WITH PROOF TEXTS? 2005 by The Orthodox Presbyterian Church
Published by and available from:
The Committee on Christian Education
of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church
607 N. Easton Road, Bldg. E
Box P
Willow Grove, PA 19090-0920
Phone 215/830-0900
Also available from:
Great Commission Public... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 41 From Constantine To Augustine
As Durant and other historians have pointed out, Constantine never reno
unced his loyalty to the pagan gods. He abolished neither the Altar of Victo
ry in the Senate nor the Vestal Virgins who tended the sacred fire of the go
ddess Vesta. The Sun-god, not Christ, continued to be honored on the imperia
l coins. In spite of the "cross" (actually the cross of the god Mithras) on
his shields and military banners, Constantine had a medallion created honori
ng the Su... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1776 | 42 CHAPTER III
Of God’s Eternal Decree
I. God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own
will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass:[65] yet so,
as thereby neither is God the author of sin,[66] nor is violence offered to
the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second caus
es taken away, but rather established.[67]
II. Although God knows whatsoever may or can come to pass upon all supposed
conditions,[68] yet hath he not decreed ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 43 The Lord is not slow to fulfill His promise, as some count slowness, but is
patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish but that all should
reach repentance (2 Peter 3:9) |
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发帖数: 3781 | 44 From Beginning to End
God created man in his own image... Genesis 1:27
God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. Genesis 1:31
I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse: therefore choose l
ife Deuteronomy 30:19
But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves
this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your forefathers served beyo
nd the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But
as for me and my household, we will... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1776 | 45 CHAPTER X
Of Effectual Calling
I. All those whom God hath predestinated unto life, and those only, he is pl
eased, in his appointed and accepted time, effectually to call,[216] by his
Word and Spirit,[217] out of that state of sin and death, in which they are
by nature, to grace and salvation, by Jesus Christ;[218] enlightening their
minds spiritually and savingly to understand the things of God,[219] taking
away their heart of stone, and giving unto them a heart of flesh;[220] renew
ing their w... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3781 | 46 Arminius And His Teachings
There was nothing in Arminius to suggest revenge against one's enemies or th
e use of violence, much less the death sentence for heresy. He stood uncompr
omisingly for sound doctrine and believed in the infallibility and inerrancy
of the Bible as inspired by God. He rejected the Mass as a denial of "the t
ruth and excellence of the sacrifice of Christ." 4 He joined in calling the
pope "the adulterer and pimp of the Church, the false prophet ... the enemy
of God. . . th... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1776 | 47 CHAPTER XI
Of Justification
I. Those whom God effectually calleth, he also freely justifieth:[235] not
by infusing righteousness into them, but by pardoning their sins, and by
accounting and accepting their persons as righteous; not for anything
wrought in them, or done by them, but for Christ’s sake alone; nor by
imputing faith itself, the act of believing, or any other evangelical
obedience to them, as their righteousness; but by imputing the obedience and
satisfaction of Christ unto them,[236... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1776 | 48 真悔改
傅格森
上一章提到，信心和悔改是一组手牵手不可分割的教义。任何真正合乎福音的信仰
经历，都少不了这两者其中一项。如果我们真的相信主的话，这样的信就必须带着悔改
的态度；同样，如果我们真心悔改的话，这悔改也必须带着相信的态度。此外，这一组
对上帝恩典的反应，不只是在新生命诞生时才形影不离地在一起，就是在我们今后一生
的日子，它俩儿仍是继续不断地携手同工，从不分离的。当我们不断信靠基督时，我们
也就会不断认罪悔改。约翰加尔文对悔改的理解就是这样的，他给悔改下了以下的定义
：
悔改——真诚的以己归向上帝的转变，出于对上帝单纯、迫切的敬畏，也包含了治
死自己的肉体和旧人，并在圣灵里作新人。
虽然到目前为止，我们只谈到救恩起头的种种经验和信徒所尝到的优惠，但我们不
可忘记，悔改可是一生一世的事。旧约圣经中，悔改包含了多个意思。Nacham这个字，
含有心中难过的意思，且有具体改变原有目的或作法的意思。有时，圣经用这个字来指
因心中忧伤痛悔而产生的结果，并且带有安慰、安抚的意味。或许可以这么说，这个字
所概括的意思就是指人在悔改后，将发现自己心灵得到了一种无比的释放和安慰。这些
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发帖数: 3781 | 49 By Dave Hunt
The Growing Controversy
The Counter-Remonstrance was in turn answered by The Opinion of the Remonstr
ants. This was a far more lengthy document which went into great detail to e
stablish what the Remonstrants "in conscience have thus far considered and s
till consider to be in harmony with the Word of God . . . ." It contained le
ngthy objections to Calvinism under four headings, the main points of which
are summarized in the following excerpts:
From Section I (10 paragraphs):
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发帖数: 3781 | 50 There is not a verse in the Bible, however, which presents Calvinism's radic
al idea that the sinner is incapable of believing the very gospel which offe
rs him forgiveness and salvation and yet he is condemned by God for failing
to believe. In fact, as we shall see, the Bible declares otherwise. "All men
everywhere" (Acts 17:30) are repeatedly called upon to repent and to believ
e on Christ. One would never derive from Scripture the idea that the unregen
erate are unable to believe. Dave Breese... 阅读全帖 |
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