s********a
发帖数: 1100 | 1 非常差
我看过一场0：3被safin还是霏霏草割的
此人当年除了发球就不会干别的了 |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 2 exactly - gamesmanship :)
Sure suppose you can't replay it, just argue up a storm anyway - piss up the
other guy off but keep your own cool. McEnroe and Connors are master of
this eh.
Safin... well, isn't... lol |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 5 Serve and volley is not dead to the recreational player, and I have no
illusions about this - I'm a recreational player, and so is 100% of the
people on this board I suspect. But this really has nothing to do with
anything.
I like my 93 sqin MGPM, not because I have illusions that I can suddenly
play like Safin - maybe when I was 16 and swung a PS6.0 85 for the first
time, I had imagined that I can serve like Pete, but I have grown out of
that quite a few years ago...
It's just what one is used |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 6 This is an interesting guy... He has a big backhand and seems to have a lot
of natural talent and shots... BUT - considering his record, I'm really
not sure what the big deal is...
Hell, even Andy Murray made it into the finals - Gasquet made to the semi,
ONCE. He's a few years younger than Roddick, a few years older than Nadal
and Murray. He's French. He's fluff. :)
At least, that's how I see it... I think he's got almost as much talent as
Safin, but somehow I just don't see him winning |
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j**c
发帖数: 234 | 7 envy you guys;) Around here, we always go to the quarter finals of Legg
Mason. We usually buy afternoon tickets (buy one get one free for usta
members), and hang around for evening matches. So we get to watch the final
8. This year we'll have Roddick, Del Potro, Tsonga , Gonzalez, Soderling,
Cilic, Monfils and hopefully Safin for one more time.
Personally
forth. |
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I*******t
发帖数: 1196 | 8 hehe, exactly!
like compare to Santoro,
Safin is nothing!
career |
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 9 This cannot be used to prove he is not in his peak time. Maybe his peak
performance cannot beat other baseliners any more. The better way to prove
if he is in his peak time is to compare his winning ratio against other S&
Vers. This way, we can rule out the possibility of baseliners' dramatic
improvements.
In 1999 and 2000, Sampras is ranked behind baseliners (Agassi & Kafelnikov
in 1999, Kuerten & Safin in 2000). He is still the best S&Ver in those two years. |
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 10 我觉得他full swing的时候还好了，手臂伸太直了不好控制。Federer和Nadal的正手
swing都伸得比较直，但是大多数建议是手肘稍微夹紧一些，小臂和大臂成一定角度，
可参照tsonga的正手。反手Hewwit和Rodick手臂都是伸得笔直，不过我更喜欢Safin的
反手动作。他在到位的情况下，反手离身体比较近一点，手臂也弯曲一些。 |
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f******g
发帖数: 13917 | 12 no way at all.
First, Del Potro is not as good as young Safin.
Second, Samprass was not as good as Federer.
That's it. |
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J*****2
发帖数: 498 | 13 He's got Safin's forehand. |
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u****n
发帖数: 522 | 14 Another Young Champion
2000 Safin 20 Yrs old
2001 Hewitt 20 Yrs old
2003 Roddick 21 Yrs old
2009 Del Potro 20 Yrs old |
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s**r
发帖数: 669 | 15 2000年桑天王输给safin正好29岁，之后只拿过1个大满贯，他的老对手Agassi后来又拿
了2个大满贯，ff比桑天王小一岁，估计可以再拿3个，他的老对手纳豆照这么算的话可
以再拿4个（毕竟年轻）。最后2人就是18：10了 |
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s**r
发帖数: 669 | 16 只是巧合啊，我记得2000年safin也是下狗获胜，从此之后桑天王就走背字了，好在
2002年胜了agassi拿了最后一个 |
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l*******e
发帖数: 583 | 17 Safin has the talent to be a champ, but not the heart. |
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L***s
发帖数: 2944 | 18 真的有天分才能当上真正的球王啊。
以前的Fererro， Hewiit， Safin， Roddick，
都拿过GS，都登上过No.1，甚至年终第一，
但是无一例外，他们都是乱世中的过眼云烟，
状态好的时候拿一个，2个GS而已，绝不能成为真正的球王。 |
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U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 19 转帖 TheBiggestLosers:theUS Open
送交者: 云易 2009年09月15日18:59:42 于 [竞技沙龙] 发送悄悄话
The biggest losers: the U.S Open and the americans in general.
More than 90% of the americans wanted Roger to lose, and he lost. Mike
Purica, famous tennis writer, compared Roger's loss to Sampras losses to
Safin and Hewitt. Let me tell you famous sport writer that it is not the
same. First a sport writer needs to be impartial which you are not. You are
not the only one, the US Open TV commentators are as bad as you are. S |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 20 FH: Gonzo/Potro - consistently powerful, but on a threat level, I would not
rank them as high as Federer's or Sampras's forehand.
2HBH: Safin, hands down the best 2HBHer. Agassi is up there too.
1HBH: Guga
2HFH: Seles due to a lack of competition
Serve: As the entire serving package (i.e., 1st + 2nd serve), Sampras w/o a
doubt.
Net: McEnroe
Movement: Federer
Fighting spirit: Nadal/Hewitt/Chang
Intimidation: Federer/Lendl |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 21 Not Safin, Stepanek...
Ladies man right here... |
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y****2
发帖数: 1601 | 22 帅！
Safin可以用放荡不羁来形容。记得某场大满贯比赛，他因为打出了一个很爽的球，拉
下短裤庆祝，震惊啊。 |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 23 en. anyone who plays tennis can see from his movements and the way he
approaches the points that Safin is a natural player. It's also well
documented that he pays a bit more attention to his extra-curricular
activities than he does on his games. The fact that he can practice,
prepare so little, and still managed to beat pretty much all the best
players in his era is proof enough of his talent. The fact is, his style is
inherently different than Federer's. Federer's game is finesse, more lik |
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D*D
发帖数: 236 | 24 同fan safin，同欣赏ff但不fan，哈哈
看美网赛前训练的时候，只要萨芬出场，就有一大堆女孩子不依不饶地 |
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b**f
发帖数: 240 | 25 I've watched enough safin's games, my understanding is his game is one-
dimensional. From my standard of talent(anticipation of the balls, the way
moving around, adjusting strategy to win etc), I just don’t see he’s so
talented as you said.
If you call it talent that he spent 50% on court but still beat federer 1
out of 10 times, I won’t argue with you and I don’t really know what he
can achieve if he gives his 100%. How hard or lazy he had been working off-
court, I don’t know. I can only see |
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b**f
发帖数: 240 | 26 If you talk about Ana, now I think Safin is a real talent. hehe. |
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l****a
发帖数: 459 | 27 查了wiki,safin居然是鞑靼人，难怪我觉得他和safina长得有点胡人的味道，还有那个
坏脾气，呵呵 |
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m*****r
发帖数: 3822 | 30 我理解是小牌面更利于control,而且事实上k90和kps都是potential power最大的几个
拍子
其实safin的prestige也就是93拍面，重量也和k90相当。对于业余打打可能差别并不是
那么大，主要还是看个人习惯和喜好吧。 |
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v***s
发帖数: 1893 | 31 单反没有人用加长拍，用加长拍的都是双反，不是双反都是用加长拍。是人决定用什么
样的拍子，不是
拍子设计出来等所有适合它的人来用。
手长的人用普通拍力量也够，del potro，safin
了。 |
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r******n
发帖数: 1665 | 32 本人曾用过三四个月的K90。当时教练没好意思说什么。后来没有用后，教练说：很多
人都觉得拿上Pro的拍子，就觉得自己Pro了。拍子还是要适合业余(recreational)选手
的业余身体条件、业余身体素质和业余的打法。
牛人肯定是有的。不过比得上Del Portro, Safin的应该太少了。 |
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m****u
发帖数: 147 | 33 I thought Safin is popluar in girls... |
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y****2
发帖数: 1601 | 34 Marat Safin and Feliciano Lopez |
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W****E
发帖数: 251 | 35 Marat Safin,Tommy Roberto, Tommy Haas, James Blake are all sexually
attractive to girls. |
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W*********l
发帖数: 624 | 36 1楼提到的都so so阿
现役的头两名肯定是safin, lopez了
按国家来说的话肯定是西班牙最帅了，主要是那几位都肌肉很帅
说起来网球男pro真是肌肉很差的，除了西班牙众猛男肯定是专门练了以外，其他基本
上都是肚子上一圈肥油，胳膊不算多粗，胸肌往往很瘪
djok帅不帅见仁见智，但是肌肉真的不咋地 |
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q**y
发帖数: 129 | 37 safin does not look like his parents. safina does. |
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W*N
发帖数: 1354 | 38 Safin looks like his mom, Safina looks like her dad. |
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p****f
发帖数: 82 | 39 L是指long swing style，和power大小没有必然联系，几个著名的系列里，instinct和
extreme
是L3，radical一直是L4，prestige一直是L6，最近的youtek speed是L5，safin以前用的
PC600是L7。power rating的衡量标准很多，可以去看一下tennis warehouse的TW
university和USRSA每年出的一个类似年鉴的球拍资料，但都是参考，最主要的还是自
己多试一下。 |
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j**c
发帖数: 234 | 42 Tennis Channel has about 8 hours of live match of Paribas Master everyday.
Right, it is usually included in a sports package.
Safin still has great serves and solid returns but lousy groundstrokes. If
he want to have any chance at all tomorrow, he need to finish every point
within 3 strokes. hehe. |
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y****2
发帖数: 1601 | 43 zan honest
and handsome, hehe |
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f**********o
发帖数: 228 | 44 i have to believe $ is the main reason for this book..
it's just not worth it... he can't be the tennis ambassador anymore. and
bashing your contemporaries after retiring, just pathetic.. |
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b*****z
发帖数: 757 | 45 this is cool.
and the comments about samprass and micheal from agassi sound stupid too. it
's something he should have said when he had the long hair. |
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 46 zan! really like his attitude!
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h*******e
发帖数: 1171 | 47 second this, he just couldn't understand. |
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q**y
发帖数: 129 | 48 这也是他为什么成绩不好时，还有很多球迷的原因。 |
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h*******e
发帖数: 1171 | 49 that's pathetic, if he hadn't won these two grand slams, no one would
remember him. |
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y****2
发帖数: 1601 | 50 saying what he really thinks is pathetic?
I think a lot of people, especially women, will still remember him even if
he hadn't won those slams. hehe. |
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