i***g
发帖数: 80 | 1 MGM 1/2 is not a good place, u cannot win a lot or lose a lot until u r a
big fish. Venetian or Caesar palace is better. If u didn't go to bally to
play poker before, u can also go to bally, u may get some luck (but it is a
shady place after u go couple of times.). don't go to paris, it is a shady
place. |
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d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 2 venetian poker room.
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a
push
200 |
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d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 3 嘿嘿。。。从右到左是flop,turn,river. |
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d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 5 this is a real nuts hand../. |
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d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 6 Venetian你没去啊？好像是Vegas最大的poker room |
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H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 7 Venetian is the best.
Orleans has low rake high Jackpot btw. |
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h*****e
发帖数: 215 | 8 呵呵，那个女的打的很简单，有牌就ｒａｉｓｅ，然后也会ｌａｔｅ ｐｏｓｔｉｏｎ
ｓｑｕｅｚｚｅ，同时因为我在牌桌子上显得比较笨拙，所以她言语之间很是不屑的
样子，然后很想和我HUD玩。
属于tptk不能fold的。
stake size和我差不多的样子。
第二个我其实诱使他bluff，不过我不知道当时自己脑子里如何想的，那个思维混乱啊
，早上4点钟的样子，在venetian,这个大号的机会都没有抓住，这里shove应该是最好
的play,fold简直不可理喻，at least call。哎，也许自己开始就没有一个很好的plan
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h*****e
发帖数: 215 | 9 昨天在Las vegas Venetian poker room, 2 am, 1/2 NL game 9人桌子.
桌子上不少大筹码，粗粗估计了一下，3，4个人在8，900左右，还有1家大概600的样子
。我是400多点，算是小筹码了。
大家都打的很疯狂，经常pre flop就3-bet raise，然后在flop和turn也很多action，
其实应该是最理想的情况，我开始耐心地等待机会。
第一手：
我是在BB,然后mp的人raise to 12, 有几个caller,ＳＢ也call. I have AA, 我加注到
65，这样fold到一个late position的美国guy,他想了好一会，然后call,这样就heads
up.
开牌是 58T，两个黑桃8T，然后我看了一下，说all in,他又想了好一会儿，然后说
gamble吧(他大概有200左右剩下)，I got him covered.
Turn is 2, river is 7. 他翻出黑桃 J9,ｓｔｒａｉｇｈｔ． 激动的上蹿下跳的。
我想我也许在flop上 bet 1/2ｐｏｔ更好，这样turn上Push all-... 阅读全帖 |
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b*******s
发帖数: 1175 | 10 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 新手报到 刚发现你们的组织，看了些贴，看来大牛不少。以后跟定组织了:). 断断续续打live
cash game几年了。只玩2/5NL. 上周参加CESshow 在venetian打了几次。可惜了那时不
知道你们，否则可以和高手过招了。第一天2/5一桌上三个pro, 5个常打high stake
home game，action之大让我流连忘返，最后竟然让我搞了2k+. 第二天play rush
before the plane搞丢了1K+. 不过发现vegas赢球比本地casino容易啊！我的问题是不
赢4x starting capital很难收手，因为LD痛恨poker一年难得打几次。 |
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n**m
发帖数: 113 | 11 上月底去las vegas玩了玩，总是在这里潜水，也分享一首牌，希望听听大家的意见！
是$1/2 NL holdem,桌上的人都玩的不错，而且深夜，他们stake都蛮多，我$100 buy
in, 慢慢攒到了$300 左右的stake,我MP with TsJs, raised to $12, late position
raised to $25, SB called, I called, three players on the table. Flop: 9h9c8s
, SB checked, I checked, late position bet $55, SB called, I called. Turn:
7c, 我心中暗喜，SB checked，我还有$170左右left，我想all in，或是big bet，肯
定把没牌的吓走，然后把full house留下来，也想看看river有没有flush或是别人full
house的可能，没想多久就也checked啦，late position 的lady也checked啦。 然后
river： K diamond,SB
be... 阅读全帖 |
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g********r
发帖数: 1458 | 12 非高手。
I'll shove. if you lose to a fullhouse, you kind of have to pay 'em off. And
I'll do the same thing on the flop and turn. I think LP has A Q or
something like that. SB could have a pocket 8/7, since you don't give any
read on him. But I don't think he has a K. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 13 SB's hand is pretty strong to call you and a raise preflop.
on flop, when LP bets $55 and SB check calls, i'd really think a lot in this
spot, you'd invest $80 (25+55) here and with $170 left, you only hit turn
about 1/6 times (and a non-nut hand). the pot will be very hard to play for
your remaining stack when you miss in the other 5/6 times.
i doubt you'd fold here on the turn or river anyway, so check is not what i'
d want to do, bet $80+ to commit yourself.
position
9h9c8s
full |
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n**m
发帖数: 113 | 14 I reconsidered this hand serveral times afterwards. I should bet on the turn
instead of check.
The reality is the SB has 9Ko, and I called his $100 on the river and LP
folded. I was thinking LP is on the draw. I just cannot fold my straight.
Thanks for your comments, goldenbear and fryking! |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 17 我可能会fold flop...call me weak, but given a SPR of ~4, 2over+gutter is not
enough for me to commit against 2 "decent players". As played, I'll just
shove turn. you're pretty much committed after flop. (170 left, 240 in pot).
You'll get trip 9s(I know, but sometimes ppl get creative with big Ax in LP
) and AA/KK, obv boat will come in. |
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f*****r
发帖数: 754 | 18 nuts K full of 9, :D
position
9h9c8s
full |
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D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 19 这样在有顺有花的river面还强力bet的，基本上肯定是Full了。
not
).
LP |
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G********r
发帖数: 666 | 20 "桌上的人都玩的不错 ... 我MP ... raised to $12, late position
raised to $25, SB called ... The reality is the SB has 9Ko "
Really? |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 21 我fold flop就是不想在这种时候头疼... |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 22 just my 2 cents
flop odds 不对阿（即时后来撞上t或j照样还是tough spot对不） 该放就放阿
turn上还是有bet的价值，因为over pair，straight draw 或者2pair 或者trip 都会
跟注，即使撞上full house，我想正常的地球人也都会乖乖把整个stack 搭进去吧
river上sb的bet也可能有bluff的比例在里面，而且bet的size不算大，我嚼着地球人都
会call |
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r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 24 venetian are 10-handed tables, which suck.. |
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s*********f
发帖数: 155 | 25 Thanks guys for the info.
Just returned from 3 night trip. Wynn 1/3 seems soft. Venetian definitely
has the most people. There are maybe
20, 30 tables outside the poker room! Bellaggio also has a lot of people,
but not as many.
1000 |
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s*********f
发帖数: 155 | 26 Sorry I didn't go there. Too far from Wynn.
Venetian's bad beat seems really attractive. |
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s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | 27 个人认为MGM and Venetian 的poker room 游客比较多。 |
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d******u
发帖数: 385 | 28 好我就定MGM吧这次，下次试试venetian. |
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s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | 29 we can go during the time Venetian runs its deep stack month around late Oct to Nov. |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 30 Vegas is the best . cant get enough of it. Thanksgiving ticket is really
expensive, and i used up my reward point this time , otherwise i will join u
guys.
when u guys playing in Venetian, be sure to ask for playing cards and earn
points. the food provided in poker room is excellent, the Chinese food and
pizza is outstanding. |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 31 Vegas is the best . cant get enough of it. Thanksgiving ticket is really
expensive, and i used up my reward point this time , otherwise i will join u
guys.
when u guys playing in Venetian, be sure to ask for playing cards and earn
points. the food provided in poker room is excellent, the Chinese food and
pizza is outstanding. |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 32 Harrahs has really high rake. 6$ max. I guess I will definitely play at
Venetian then. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 33 第二手牌我觉得他是想让你的7x叫， 这里88是他的bottom range. 他有kk-88都有可能
，大一点的对子能性更大(depending on his preflop raise tendency) 还有就是kq,
kj, 不过他的sizing 更象是value 而不是bluff.
1，1/2 venetian前位一个limper，我AKo，感觉玩一次raise的pot没意思，所以也limp
到sb raise到11，弃到我，我干到32，sb call，HU........
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s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | 34 现在想想，真还得谢谢venetian的floor没把我换到21桌 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 35 俺正有这个打算呢。我查了一下，我有HARRHAS 5天圣诞期间的免费ROOM，正在考虑要
不要再去一次。想好好去VENETIAN打打TOURNAMENT。 |
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l*u
发帖数: 1770 | 36 那几天我在venetian打了poker, 不知道几位大侠也在。不然可以切磋切磋。
其中和一个从seattle来的哥们同桌聊了会，我极度怀疑他是你说的几个ID之一 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 37 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 终于回来了 唉，昨天最后一天战绩很差，不但没赢钱，还输了快两百了。玩了两个TOURNAMENT，第
一个玩得还行，但是整个桌上刚好全是疯子，BLIND 100－200，RAISE 2000，57o 这种
牌都照CALL，而且个个都很LAG，害我的AGRESSION都没办法发挥作用，因为他们都是死
都要CALL和要CHASE的那种。有一次我RAISE800，6个人CALL我，我实在忍不住问道：“
你们到底是在打CASH GAME 还是TOURNAMENT？没见过这么LOOSE的TABLE.”后来我只能
调整战术等好牌来惩罚这些FISH了。终于等到AA。我EP。AVERAGE STACK SIZE. BLIND
100-200.UTG SUPER LAG RAISED TO 600, 我RERAISE到2000，坐我下面的老黑(the
most loose tournament player I've ever seen) CALL了，其他人FOLD了。FLOP 6 9
9 RB， UTG 马上BET 4500，我知道这种FLOP我是WAY AHEAD，然后也知道老黑是有什么
都会CALL的，而且他刚... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 38 I thought the same thing before, but now after I analyzed it, I think 80% he
had full house, and 20% he was bluffing me. Here is why. First, we don't
see many that kind of bluff in 1-3 low limit game. Usually if they don't hit
they fold. If they think you're bluffing then they call you with Ace high,
but not a raise. Secondly, before I made my river bet, I cautiously looked
at SB (an old guy)'s face, and he had the exact same look as the other
player did when I was playing in Venetian. That guy ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 39 New updates. Lost 280$ the day before yesterday. Lost 340$ last night at
bellagio. Slow played my AK on the flop of a22. Original raiser runner
straight. Board was a2273, and he had 45. Never put him on that hand. I just
sat down so I didn't know much about him. I then went to ceasars, and ended
up wining 790$ for a 5 hours session. Good enough to cover the lost on
Friday. Going to Venetian now. Lesson learned so far,: nerved play poker
when you are tired. |
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s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | 40 hurry, go to Venetian and win more. |
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l*u
发帖数: 1770 | 41 我最喜欢venetian. 宽敞，高屋顶。等待时间很短。
PLAYER |
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h*****e
发帖数: 215 | 42 同意，首推VENETIAN 和 CEASARS
ARIA和BELLAGIO也还凑合
环境一流，前者人气最旺，鱼比较多点. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 43 老大是俺官方代言人 ：）
我觉得老大和女侠都讲得很具体和到位了，我再简单补充一下我知道的。
For poker room, I think it depends on the game you want to play. Most
of my cash game were played at Wynn and Venetian. Back then the 2-5 NL at
wynn were no cap and it is 1500NL max now, which is still the best 2-5 NL in
Vegas.I did not play much live since I focus playing online. Wynn has 2-
5NL(1.5k) cap and 5-10 NL(no cap) running most of night. Their 1-3 NL is 500
$ max.
I mostly played 5-10 NL at V. It is 9 handed and no cap. ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*u
发帖数: 1770 | 44 这次全家四口（女儿，老婆和丈母娘）到vegas, 总共在venetian住了六
个晚上。由于有了丈母娘的鼎力相助看小孩，我每个晚上都有了打poker
的机会。白天也打过两三次短的sessions.
在local玩poker, 主要是打2/5NL，水平是基本能在local casino存活
下来。有时为了等桌子，有时也打1/2NL。有时觉得1/2NL反而不好打，
bet多了没人跟，slow play就会被bust。所以到vegas之后，我准备只
玩2/5。谁知计划赶不上变化，我只打了一个session的2/5，其余时间
都在玩1/2。觉得2/5的经验还是对玩好1/2有帮助的。
这次总共获利大概2.5K，其中1k是从2/5上得来的。想想看，还是2/5
的效率高，只玩了一次，却占了2/5的效益。这就是为什么我偏爱2/5
胜过1/2. 但经验告诉我们赢多快就会输多快, 除非你的Poker水平高
过你同桌的水平。为了减轻打2/5的压力，也为了陪老婆玩，我们就一
块在1/2桌子上并肩作战直到来开vegas.
由于没有及时上贴，大多数的过程我都不记得了，我就贴些我记得的
几手牌(请原谅我下面中Eng... 阅读全帖 |
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f**********1
发帖数: 52 | 45 8. 最成功的bluff
1/2， about 700. 我的牌是A5 suited。big blind postion. A solid player
(chip leader with 1k) raised 35. I called.
Flop is 335, I have top pair. I checked, the guy bet 65. I called.
turn is 6. the guy bet 100, I called.
river is 2. I put this guy on a big pair. If I did not do something,
I would lose this pot for sure. I bet 200, The guy tank for quite
a while and folded.
我长出了一口气，心虚地告诉那个人我很lucky, river made my straight.
心里很高兴。击败桌上很牛的人给我很大的快感。
"A solid player"?... 阅读全帖 |
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B*******4
发帖数: 1438 | 46 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 俺很艳羡 俺们这旮没有赌场离LV也忒远，只能跟着小区里的组织每月玩玩HOME GAME. 去年俺们
小区的组织者在Venetian 得了某个tournament的第八，赢了4千多，回来一顿猛吹还拍
着俺们的肩膀说那旮的PLAYERS水平有的还不如俺们，把俺馋的，可惜俺家领导不支持
俺赌博，估计去LV没戏，前两天误入此地，如久旱逢甘雨，下定决心等俺家孩子们大了
，一定要去LV走上几遭。 |
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g****j
发帖数: 2908 | 47 最后第二名完赛，其实我们deal了两次，第一次五个人deal，每个人都拿了第三名的钱
，然后剩下的冠军多拿，结果最后和一个老美heads up半天，最后又deal, 我拿了1700
总共，他拿了2000出头，不过我的chips只有他的一半，我很满意了 |
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g****j
发帖数: 2908 | 49 人不多，只有70个人左右吧，150的buy in赌场扣二十好像。我发现我还是适合打deep
stack慢的，快的short stack太容易挂了 |
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