m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 1 Fictional character biography
Thanos battles Spider-Man and the Thing on the cover of Marvel Two-in-One
Annual #2 (1977). Art by Jim Starlin.Thanos was born on Titan, a moon of
Saturn, to Mentor and Sui-San. Thanos is born with the Deviant gene and as
such resembles the Deviants—the Eternals' cousin race—more than his own
people. Although treated fairly by his race, he is mindful of his appearance
and becomes distant, only keeping company with his brother Eros (Starfox).
During his childhood, he... 阅读全帖 |
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S******s
发帖数: 5376 | 2 【 以下文字转载自 TexasHoldem 讨论区 】
发信人: cmis91 (dontknow), 信区: TexasHoldem
标 题: 我是如何拿下Poker Stars周日百万赛冠军的
关键字: PokerStars SundayMillion 8202名参赛者 冠军$246K
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 13 15:03:46 2010, 美东)
(pic. provided by fryking, lol)
First briefly describe the course how I reach the final table. At the very
beginning of tourney, I got double up over someone’s donkey move. After
that, my AA 3 bet preflop, villain call and hit bottom two pairs, we went
all in and fortunately I catched higher two pairs at r... 阅读全帖 |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 3 yes, the push table works very well. u can do better if you know the villain
better, but if u don't just use the call table, still ok. u won't gain any
edge if the villain use the same table. (and neither will he), otherwise u
always have +EV. |
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B*********s
发帖数: 4158 | 4 Villain: 24/18
should I reraise on river, looks like villain has something to call reraise?
Full Tilt Poker Game #24920802133: Table Apollo - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hol
d'em
Seat 1: xXxEndoxXx ($99.53)
Seat 2: bollemuza ($29.10)
Seat 3: evolsteve ($48.22)
Seat 4: CastingSpell ($41.02)
Seat 5: Princesa11 ($5.80)
Seat 6: bahnzii ($9.75)
Seat 7: gerandy1988 ($10.89)
Seat 8: Hero ($31.41)
Seat 9: 4 Pies ($25)
xXxEndoxXx posts the small blind of $0.10
bollemuza posts the big blind of $0.25
The button... 阅读全帖 |
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B*********s
发帖数: 4158 | 5 这个level大概就要balance range了吧，视频里villain的range在hero眼里太明显，he
ro的range在villain眼里就很宽 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 6 想问下grinder们，100NL有多少比例的人还在打ABC，感觉黎叔的思路已经不是在用ABC
而是开始利用别人的ABC想法了，或者说从数学上转到心理学。
我个外行人，如果处在第一手牌villain的地位，看到盲注上黎叔的两轮应对，我会非
常担心黎叔可能中trip，没有位置还示强，either 纯bluf or 的确有强与over pair的
牌，如果从pot size的角度考虑，villain手上的high cards或者over pair就非常烫手
了， 我个外行人具体情况也分析不清楚，想问问大大们，即使你们手上拿得的是AA，
这手牌也能call的很轻松或者直接flop就shove了么？ |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 7 (pic. provided by fryking, lol)
First briefly describe the course how I reach the final table. At the very
beginning of tourney, I got double up over someone’s donkey move. After
that, my AA 3 bet preflop, villain call and hit bottom two pairs, we went
all in and fortunately I catched higher two pairs at river and suck him out.
With 3X starting chips, I cruised all the way with healthy chips until
around 100 players remain when the blinds increase faster than the chips I
can accumulate. After my... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 8 oh sorry 看漏了
in this case, pot is 17bb，也就是说hero at least mini raise to make pot 24bb
in total
and usually when villain cbet here, it is good for hero to make the pot to
22~25bb, more like villain cbet 4bb, hero 3x , right? |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 9 dont think hero should fold
all about villain's range.the fish might do the same thing if he holds any
pocket pair because he thinks hero has AK , AQ. If both player's stacks are
deep and villain's range is a bit narrower, folding is an option.
to
$
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FOR THIS PARTICULAR HAND AT FLOP? |
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M********g
发帖数: 717 | 10 Could not understand the second hand.
Hero raise UTG, and no others called. Villain chose to flat call at button.
I guess he decided to play in position with hero and make a move later. The
flop is all low cards.
I am wondering why hero Cbet and quickly fold to a not big raise. Villain
naturally put hero at two high cards(more possible) or a pair since hero is
UTG. He can easily have 1 pair + str8t draw. I do not think he has a set
here. Two pair? possible. 88-1010? This raise could be a test ra... 阅读全帖 |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 11 very good point about keeping villain's whole range when we are ahead. I
oversimplified the betting rounds to make the calc easier. so, by betting
gradually on non-ace flops, we could possibly get 99/77 to stack off.
therefore, we got much more than $90 in the "others 55%" case. villains will
not hit a set ott/otr often enough to offset it.
In other words, this is practically KK/99/77 go all in on non-ace flops, so
our payoff is:
Axx ～19%, we lose $30
～53.5%, we win $290, /when KK hold up on ... 阅读全帖 |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 12 windstormm, what do you think about against one aggro villain with KK on Axx
flop when SPR so low? suppose it is full ring, heads up against an aggro.
villain is 28/20 and 3bet 10%, pot is $60, effective stack is $100, you are
OOP and flop comes AT7r, check/call??
2
condition where people play perfect against us, we STILL make 10$ over long
run. The real ev
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 13 I think the SPR is very good for our KK in this hand. If we are a lot deeper
stack, then implied odds make our life harder.
windstormm's approach of gradually building the pot to keep villain's whole
range makes it pretty much a preflop all-in situation, which is very +EV. I
think this is why he keeps saying it is like unconditional probability. the
pot is so big, it is hard for villains to fold to your $30ish small bet otf,
especially if their 99/77 is second pair or something otf.
losing
pls
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 14 suppose both villain and you know the station will call pre and fold on the
flop very often. villain cannot have called with TT/88/QJhh for an
additional $115 when effective stack is 900. so his range is fairly narrow.
we are losing to AKhh/AQhh, ahead of naked Ah,KhKx,etc. |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 15 he showed Ad3d,I would argue the middle ground between AK and AT!
I never saw how much he raise preflop on AK, it is a little low but not too out of range for this villain.
In retrospect, I feel his delayed flop call represents a range of AQ, AK, A3
, AT and big flush. He probably doesn't have a big pair based on preflop min
raise, and would fold things like 99c.
I feel other legitimate hand (set or baby flush) would see a reraise on the
flop to charge the draw.
My bet on the flop and check on ... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 16 An instant fold for me. You know what, my biggest leak is that I cannot fold
a strong hand. I always talk myself into calling. But this time I am 100%
sure that a fold is correct that I would throw my AAs faces up to make
villain feel bad.
Not just because a rive raise against 3-barrel is rarely a bluff. A more
reliable evidence is that villain has been tanking twice on flop and turn.
Just ask yourself -- when was the last time you tanked and reluctantly
called two bets on the flop and turn, but... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 17 For hand 1 and 2, I think all your thoughts make sense and could certainly
work in your favor.
I like raising the turn for hand 1 because your hand was ahead but very
vulnerable. The pot was big already. So I'd like to end the hand there. And
raising the turn is a good balance for your bluffs. That thin value raise
depolarized your turn raise range, which made it a disaster for villain if
he decides to use TPTK as a bluff catcher.
Hand 2: again, nothing wrong with your play. I like checking a tr... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 18 About your hand 3. Let me share this -- I really like Ed Miller's guidance
about when to bluff in low-stake games. His point is just one sentence --
bluff when you know that villain is weak, not when you feel that you can
represent the monster with a good story.
His reason is: low-stake players generally call based on their hand strength
. Often times they say "I cannot fold this hand so I will pay your off".
Then they call and show you pocket AAs to beat your bluff. Then you yelled:"
I checked ... 阅读全帖 |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 19 hero 9T,
flop: 89T
villain bet, hero 3-bet, villian all-in
当时剩下的钱不多，而且估摸villain还有可能是TJ这样的牌，就call了
翻出来一看villian TT, 靠，连full house的outs都没有了
算了一下，赢面是.1%。
然后runner runner quad这样的事情还是发生了，我后来很诚恳的到了歉 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 20 my only level 1 thinking:
hand 1, villain rep a tpgk OR trips with weak kicker hand, i would fold on
turn OR float turn and shove any safe river card, and the river 7 is not
safe for me, so i would fold. Raising more on flop makes life easier.
hand 2, what is your image and any history between you and BTN, villain
could have overpair that will definitely fold on the river, OR he could have
river 2 pairs that 50/50 fold or call, OR trap you by set. All depands.
hand 3, clear fold for me, no matte... 阅读全帖 |
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H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 21 Playing with poker buddy might be very different from playing with regular
fishes... On the flop facing $15 bet I'd rather choose to either fold or
repop... The turn and river play are kina beyond my level totally...
The way it played out hero seems to got a good read on villain and made
strong actions that pushed the villain around...
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e****m
发帖数: 26 | 22 I am sure the guy was not trying to bluff. He thought he was ahead of you. I
had similar situation. I got small boat with flush completed on the river.
Villain over bet donk out. I only called instead of reraise. Villain only
have A high flush. I think level 2 thinking will lose a lot value in low
stake game. Level 1.5 thinking is enough. |
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h******n
发帖数: 233 | 23 2 more cents:-)
1. I would fold after flop
2. I would fold to villain's all in raise. You only invested $36, it doesn't
worth the risk. I believe villain mostly has two pairs or better to put you
all in. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 24 hand 1, on turn, to villain, it is way ahead or way behind situation, as
long as u called, he wont give out any penny on non-ace river, if he has
brain. except ur river bet is too small lol
hand 2, we need live tell, but we cant rely on live tell. Plus, i would
raise more on flop (maybe your $20 raise was because of the table dynamic),
anyways like some buddy said, on a dry board, i would fold my overpair against villain's all-of-a-sudden shove if there is no history. |
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h****5
发帖数: 191 | 25 Yes, u should have snap folded. Seriously people, stop posting hands like
this.
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Hand2: (Double up. Is this a right call?)
TT at MP ($200) raised to $20. Villain (a regular) at LP($250) re-raised to
$40. I called.
Flop was 6TQ. I bet $50. Villain shoved all-in. I tanked and called. He
showed AA.
Actually his range could be AQ, JJ+ and AK. Should I fold if considering QQ
is in the range? |
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w**********y
发帖数: 1691 | 26 多谢各位点评.总结一下,
Hand 3: AQ..flop Q68c.turn 8. vs. 66
1. 我turn上面被raise毫无疑问应该fold.
2. 不过villain如果不all-in而是call,那么river比如是2的话,该check还是bet多少呢
?我觉得这手牌我肯定是要loss的了.关键看怎么少丢.
3. TheBigSlick的建议” if I hit my flop in multiway, like in your case,
maybe check the flop in EP will be better, I'd like to see how the action
goes when it comes to me again”应该不太算标准打法吧? Check-call输的差不多(
turn是8可能容易fold然后少输一些).如果villain是regular打法的话,应该不会flop就
huge bet.
Hand 4: QQ flop 22T vs. A2
这种情况可能我以后改进的方法就是QQ+,AKs的牌preflop要bet更大一些如果桌... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 27
comes
and
I don't know about 2/5 NL much.
My2c, you mentioned villain likes to overplay a little bit and your image
was kinda loose. even that, i think without set/over cards flush draw,
villain still gonna fold to your 4bet shove here, which looks too strong and
definitely not a semi-bluff of combo draw. Plus you got position on her. So
i would flat call here and not fold no matter what. |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 28 做nit是不能赢的。当晚桌上有两个非常非常NIT的人，一个是老头。他整晚就玩了两手
牌，第一盘他FLOPPED THE NUTS FLUSH，300多变成700多。第二盘是AA。RAISE到50
PRE-FLOP，7个人CALL，他FLOPPED THE SET OF ACES，最后还是死在了那个villain 2
的FLUSH上，villain 2 把他COVER了，老头只能RE-BUY了。还有一个是亚洲人，NIT得
不得了，700多两小时后还是那么多，因为他都不玩的，终于不知道是没牌没耐心了还
是咋的，开始看到他玩些牌了，最后死在了另一个LAG的9s5s上了，只有输光走人了。
玩这种桌子，首先得有牌有运气，第二得AGGRESSIVE，就是往死里BET，让他们来CHASE
，这样才能赢钱。细想老头那个SET OF ACES输掉的主要原因还是PRE-FLOP RAISE得不
够，当时是STRADDLE，无数人CALL，他RAISE个50，那第一个人CALL了之后个个也就跟
着CALL了，要我会RAISE到85，这样能CALL下的不多，FLOP也BET的不对，POT那么多，
你BET个1... 阅读全帖 |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 29 从pot size分析一下
pf：30×4+blinds,大概120-130左右
fp：你的$60 half pot bet有点儿小。pot这时大概250左右
turn：$250 pot size bet。足够strong了。
Pot $750.
villain call完了还剩900-30-60-250=560的stack。
river: villain all-in. 我感觉我会fold。
一般的reg，不拿很大的牌，（根据我的个人经验）很少会river bluff with
all-in。我也吃过很多这样的亏。
lot
30
a
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k*******u
发帖数: 266 | 30 The turn bet is a little wield. Anyway, considering villain has invested 740
(40+250+150+300) in this pot, your stack is only 360 more for him, which is pretty much pot committed, you should shove to get maximum value. If he rivered you, you
also have to pay - just my option, may be wrong.
What's more, according to the action, it looks like villain hit his draw,
your bet on the turn and check on the river make him think you only had a
weak 9 and his flush (or straight) is good. |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 31 en, before river, pot is ~$900
you have $600 left and vilain has ~$1100 left
So the $300 bet could be thin-value bet or pot-stealing/blocking bet IMHO.
your only concern is villain's bigger full-house like 98, 97, 96, 77, 88. Do
you think villain will call the pre-flop with such hands? 77 or 88 are defi
nitely possible.
So, either call or shove looks good to me.
740
is pretty much pot committed, you should shove to get maximum value. If he
rivered you, you |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 32 这几天老是大赢大输，老是赢1000输900这样来回起伏，心情颇是郁闷，好像稳定赢钱
越来越难了，终于今晚算痛快赢了一下。下面讲一下这把最关键的牌。
Hero(950$): Very aggressive. Bluffed several times and got caught. Being
card dead for a while. Stack went from 1130$ to 950$. A little spewy at this
time.
Villain(1270$): 40ish white female. She is very aggressive also. We played
each other many times and she thinks she really knows my play. She never
believes me. Earlier I bluffed off almost 300$ to her. Another hand she
called me double barrel with a pair 4 when I had ... 阅读全帖 |
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g******s
发帖数: 211 | 33 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 一手QQ mmm, the math does not hold...
Let's say hero flat called and the villain also flat called behind. The pot
is 78. The effective remaing stack is 60. Now flop is Axx OR Kxx,
1. what should hero do against this kind of player, check or bet?
2. if hero check, villain all-in, will the hero call? |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 34 Depends on your read. If villain is LAG and c-bet a lot, and you think you
probably have the best hand, then you should shove on the flop. If he is
weak tight or at least normal, then you should probably fold on the turn.
The 35$ turn bet does not look like a bluff to me. It looks more like a
value bet. However, I don't know the villain. So you should make your
decision based on your read. |
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p******e
发帖数: 327 | 35 1/2 NL
Hero $180
Villain $200ish, tight player
Preflop, 2 ppl limp, villain at SB raised to 12, hero at BB called with A9
clubs, one limp called.
Flop Q 9 3, two clubs(Q 3). vallain lead out $20, only hero called.
Turn A, vallain bet $35
what's the best play for hero?
1.fold
2.call
3.min-raise to $70
4.raised to other amount
5.all in
Please explain why. thanks |
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H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 36 I'd just call maybe 80% of the time. Min-raise sometimes.
Shove only works if villain is willing to go allin with something like AK.
Min-raise might squeeze alittle more money from tight player. However hero
also want to see the river lolz. Plus there's still some chance that villain
got some monster @@ |
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H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 37 Guess for fun:
hero called on the turn. River came a 8s. Villain shoved and hero called.
Villain showed TJ @@ |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 38 I talked with another LHE expert today during a break from work, and he
highly advocated raising the turn if anything 'to leave yourself heads up
against the fish', and with ~7 big bets in the pot when it gets to V1 on the
turn if he did have a gunshot he's not making a big enough mistake calling
there than the luxury of being HU with fish.
I would say if I didn't raise turn on the river given the way it played out
I wouldn't want to raise river because my raise multi way shows so much more
stre... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 39 If I raised more say 200, than it would look like a squeeze, especially
after I took some time to do the raise. Also in case villain had a set, then
I didn't want to put my self committed there. So if he pushed me all in,
then I would fold. My plan was to raise 145, and if villain called on the
flop, then I would continue fire 250-300 on the turn to take it down right
there. However, after he reraised me, it really left me little space to
manipulate. I only had two choice. Fold or all in. I woul... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 40 does LHE have concept of value bet thin too? What was the river-bet to pot
ratio in that hand? fish me still can not understand the weak river bluff
from villain. what hand did he want to drive off? Fish me think, in most
cases, hero sends one more bet to the made NUTs and in some rare cases
villain might bluff with better hands. Can teacher Tan explain the
difference between NLHE bluff and LHE bluff. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 41 in previous 20 hands, what was hero's pfr/vpip?
what was villain's pfr/vpip? Any show down?
I think it does matter.
In average situation, i would fold.
Because Check/raise in such a wet board usually means bottom 2+ and has a
very low fold equity.
You only want to c villain's big pairs with flush draw or a combo draw hand,
which still have a good equity against you. |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 42 thanks. you are right, on the turn, villain could bet with many more hands.
given that we are deep and people tend to bet bigger in cash game than mtt,
3/4pot on the turn is not too big. since we check behind otf, this turn donk
bet is somewhat expected, and we are definitely not folding. but the range
I assigned to villain is obviously wrong.
when I emphasize hero call the turn *quickly* (coupled with the check behind
on the flop), I meant to say this is often
a timing tell, which reveal your h... 阅读全帖 |
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e*****e
发帖数: 119 | 43 Sup3rLuigi Posts SB 0.25
wolsok Posts BB 0.50
volcano68 Raised to 1.50
N3v3rF0rg3t Calls 1.50
ericcse- AsKc Raised to 6.50
Sup3rLuigi Folds
wolsok Folds
volcano68 Calls 5.00
N3v3rF0rg3t Calls 5.00
flop - 3s2hAd
volcano68 Checks
N3v3rF0rg3t Checks
ericcse Bets 11.00
volcano68 Raised to 22.00
N3v3rF0rg3t Folds
ericcse Calls 11.00
turn - Qd
volcano68 All In 34.27
ericcse All In 34.22
villain is decent, playing multiple tables. should I consider folding here?
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ericcse - KcAh ... 阅读全帖 |
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e*****e
发帖数: 119 | 44 Sup3rLuigi Posts SB 0.25
wolsok Posts BB 0.50
volcano68 Raised to 1.50
N3v3rF0rg3t Calls 1.50
ericcse- AsKc Raised to 6.50
Sup3rLuigi Folds
wolsok Folds
volcano68 Calls 5.00
N3v3rF0rg3t Calls 5.00
flop - 3s2hAd
volcano68 Checks
N3v3rF0rg3t Checks
ericcse Bets 11.00
volcano68 Raised to 22.00
N3v3rF0rg3t Folds
ericcse Calls 11.00
turn - Qd
volcano68 All In 34.27
ericcse All In 34.22
villain is decent, playing multiple tables. should I consider folding here?
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ericcse - KcAh ... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 45 哥越来越体会到，越到后来，payout jump对决策的影响越大，只凭感觉来决定对策，
真的是在送钱。争取这个星期内，在原来的app上加入icm的计算。
昨晚手贱，8点的时候报了一个低买入高保证金的tourney，尼玛900人，整整耗了哥6个
半小时，只赢了一点点零花钱。
分享两手牌，哥不确定自己打的对不对，看看大家意见。
hand 1, ~40bb stack, position 5/11, hero kjo 19/17/6 open 2.5bb on utg+1,
all fold to sb, 18bb stack 21/15/4, who is an average player with not- high
aggression factor, call, bb fold
(pot ~6.2bb)flop 2c6cJd, villain check, hero bet ~3.8bb, v call
(pot ~14bb)turn 8h, v check, hero bet ~4.6bb, v call
(pot ~24bb)river 9s, v donk pot size ... 阅读全帖 |
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m****9
发帖数: 492 | 46 2个月没去好好打了，这次一去发现1/2 table搞的好像比以前凶了乜，求分析求指
点：
第一手牌：
Hero ~125$, UTG QQ preflop raise to 12, Villain Cut-off 600$ call, BB call (
~36).
Flop 783 rainbow, BB check, Hero bet 20$, Villain asked for my stack then
raised to 60$, while doing this he trash talked to me that he is going to
call if I shove all-in. BB fold. Action on me.
一点context:
对方的image: 从之前的一些hand history看出来对方是a thinking regular, able to
make mixed moves, calling range比较大。
我的image：我在这首牌之前打的都比较weak tight。很少有agressive play，还在前
一局的turn上... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 47 好久不逛2+2 了， 昨天去看到个有意思的。大家怎么看？call, fold?
====================
Some background info first:
it's a live 10/20 nlhe game with no cap. table is deep. I just say down
about 2 orbits ago with 13k and haven't played a single hand yet.
Villan in this hand is unknown and hasn't played in the past town orbits
either and he has about the same stack.
Hero: KsKh and raises to 80
Villan: calls 80
4 more guys call.
Flop ($480): KdQcQh
Hero: bets $120
Villan quickly calls $120
Everyone else folds
Turn($720): Td
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 48 after his 5bet,哥想了好久，耳边回想起MM老湿说的“别丢老中的脸”，终于下定决
心flat call。
flop qxyr，villain pot size shove，哥有了非常不好的预感，但是耳边回想起MM老
湿说的“别丢老中的脸”，哥在最后一秒钟，勇敢地按下了call button，villain
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 49 3.5k gtd tourney
stack 35bb, position 3/11, AsJh ep clash with sb normal weak tight who was
2nd CL
hand history
hero （TAG image） EP 2bb open, sb flat, all fold
flop (5.xbb)2d4h7h, check,check
turn (5.xbb)9h, hero check, villain bet 2/3/hero tank call
river (12.xbb)Js, hero tank bet 6bb,villain instant shove(pot size), it is
obviously he selected checkbox_allin while hero is thinking.
因为他的这个pre decision，哥临时改变计划，call了，对手亮出Th8h，哥悔恨无比啊 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 50 哥turn上的约2分之一的2nd barrel，主要是想从draw的hands里再挤点value，并且
keep哥的牌的range，如果villain的牌力比哥强，但又够不上monster，哥就能够至少
争取到river免费showdown。
可实际情况是villain，再turn上c/r 3x。
哥陷入第一次长考，首先，对手不是完全不靠谱，且当时那个session的早些时候，有
过大的bluff。所以对哥来讲，他的这个c/r实际上可能有的落后于哥的牌是，straight
draw／flush draw／combo draw（straight＋flush＋some pair），领先于哥的牌是
，非常少量的set，非常少量的顺子，非常少量的overpair，6x，q4，34，少量的q3.哥
比了一下，两方差不多，且哥又有位置，且哥还有3到4张几乎是绝对的outer，另外一
个原因，tag image的哥还没有真正show出strength，彼此都是深筹的情况下，没有位
置的对手river应该比哥更难抉择。更重要的，哥为了不丢老中的脸，于是就平跟了。
如果river不是张6，哥也不会把这... 阅读全帖 |
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