F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 1
A couple of guys are begging GM to add faster L2 charging (6.6kWh) support
in Volt 2.0 on the gm-volt forum [1]. It is not clear if GM is going to do
it (or has done it) or not, because fast charging is somewhat contradict
with the EREV concept and the positioning of the car. Volt 1.0 supports max
3.3kWh with L2, which fills the battery in 3.5 hours.
on the other hand, Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV has a 12kwh battery, and comes
with L3 DC charging!
[1]
http://gm-volt.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-... 阅读全帖 |
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n**x
发帖数: 1898 | 2 觉得lease volt可以直接划掉。
Lease很多是有每年开的里程限制的。按三年4万迈算，你能省得油钱估计不到三千。减
三千块能买到的车子比volt开着舒服的多了去了。
买volt更不用考虑。volt电池更换的费用是三万五千刀。 |
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l*****6
发帖数: 7881 | 3 之前为了对比，特意试驾了prius plugin，感觉照volt差不少。volt的操控性能出奇的
好，急转弯侧倾很小，方向盘也不像prius那么轻，指向比较精准。volt纯用电池能开
50多迈，prius只能开20迈。也看了volt第一代，感觉二代有蛮大的提高，基本上弥补
了一代所有的缺点。最大的遗憾就是后排只能坐两人，还有后排头部空间太小，我坐后
排头顶在车顶了。个子矮点的话应该没啥问题。腿部空间还不错。
这是我第一次买美国车，感觉比我想象的要好很多。虽然内饰硬塑料比较多，但是装配
质量还不错。这车还带两次免费保养。lease期间基本上不用花啥保养费了。我算了算
，开这车我家每月能省300油费，正好跟月付抵消了，哈哈，还不错。 |
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s****t
发帖数: 1049 | 4 我是看了civic exl和斯巴鲁之后，果断选择volt的
我觉得volt+leather的内饰比前两个类似或者稍微好点，但价格便宜很多。
civic 有皮座要2万4otd，斯巴鲁crosstrek要2万8才能有皮座
但如果要是把volt看成msrp 3万5-4万的compact car，内饰确实比较差。
我的抱怨是居然没有HD radio，我常听的一个台，一个频道，HD radio可以分辨三个子
频道，volt只能收到一个子频道，第二个第三个分辨不出来
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s****t
发帖数: 1049 | 5 我是看了civic exl和斯巴鲁之后，果断选择volt的
我觉得volt+leather的内饰比前两个类似或者稍微好点，但价格便宜很多。
civic 有皮座要2万4otd，斯巴鲁crosstrek要2万8才能有皮座
但如果要是把volt看成msrp 3万5-4万的compact car，内饰确实比较差。
我的抱怨是居然没有HD radio，我常听的一个台，一个频道，HD radio可以分辨三个子
频道，volt只能收到一个子频道，第二个第三个分辨不出来
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c******f
发帖数: 2622 | 7 继续说充电。
Model S 和 Volt 有不同的是，Model S 如果在充电中断电，要先用 Remote 结束充电
才能拔出插头，Volt 则是可以直接拔。这点上 Volt 似乎更方便一点。而且 Volt 车
门上直接有一个打开 Charge door 的按钮，Model S 则是需要用屏幕上的按钮或者
Remote。 不过如果使用的是 Tesla 专用的 Charger, Charger 上面有一个打开
Charge door 的按钮。 |
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d*2
发帖数: 2053 | 8 http://budk.com/Self-Defense/100000-Volt-Stun-Gun?sourcecode=woot
100,000 Volts Stun Gun
( 9 customer reviews )
This stun gun delivers 100,000 volts of shocking power to an attacker.
Touching the contact probes to an assailant’s body can produce effects
ranging from minor muscle contractions up to disorientation and loss of
balance, depending upon the length of the blast. This device is powered by
one 9-volt battery. Includes pocket clip and a wrist strap for easy carrying
. Measures 7 1/2" x 2 ... 阅读全帖 |
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q**********r
发帖数: 465 | 10 这个技术含量太高了，不适合咱们初级阶段的猥琐男。
我提一个最可行的捆绑方案。
弄一个cricket 手机，跟Sprint LG volt 捆绑在一起。
cricket 手机放上面， LG Volt放下面。
全部费用就是一个橡皮筋的cost
然后你用Cricket手机打电话，可是在外人看起来，你就是在用LG Volt手机。
这不就行了？
不要笑。这种捆绑式技术非常高科技！
当年神州的哪一款火箭就是靠捆绑式技术上天的。
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 12 walmart has the Black and Decker 18-Volt 59-Piece Home Project Kit on
clearance for $44 + $1 shipping.
Link:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Black-and-Decker-18V-59pc-Home-Projec
Home projects and repairs are a breeze with the Black and Decker 18-Volt 59-
Piece Home Project Kit. This 59-piece set includes all the tools needed for
general gripping jobs, driving nails, installing blinds and more.
Black and Decker 18V 59pc Home Project Kit:
One 18-volt cordless drill with NiCad battery included
Jack plug... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 13 Black & Decker NST2118 12-Inch 18-Volt Ni-Cd Cordless Electric GrassHog
String Trimmer/Edger:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004A84XI8/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title
Special Offers and Product Promotions
Receive 1 Black & Decker 18 -volt battery free when you purchase 1 or
more Black & Decker 18-volt outdoor tools offered by Amazon.com.
Product Features
Includes two 18-Volt batteries for double the run time
Exclusive PowerDrive Transmission delivers more power from the motor to
the cutting s... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 14 mygofer.com (aka sears/kmart) has this:-
DeWalt DC725KA 18-volt Cordless 1/2'' (13mm) Hammer Drill Kit:
http://www.mygofer.com/shc/s/p_10175_27151_00928368000P?viewTas
for $104.49 with free shipping
Use Code JULY4 for 10% off
Final Cost:- $94.04 + tax
You may have to log in to see availability in your area - use your sears.com
or kmart.com login information if you haven't registered at mygofer.com
before
I put a quantity of 999 in my cart and it didn't say that it was unavailable
Amazon - $153.9... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 15 120-Volt Pro-Series Arc Welder (PS07572) $69 Free shipping from Home Depot
The Pro-Series Arc 120 Volt Arc Welder is ideal for doing quick, down and
dirty repairs and maintenance in the auto shop, farm or home garage. This is
a great welder to have on hand for all general purpose welding, or for
trying your hand at welding for the first time. A duty cycle of 20% @ 50A
means this Arc Welder will weld continuously for 2 minutes when set to 50
Amps before needing to cool down. Welds mild steel up t... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 16 Bosch HDS181-02 18-Volt Compact Tough Drill Driver with 2 1.5Ah Batteries +
2 Extra SlimPack Batteries $160 Free shipping from Amazon
Automatic $40 Off seen at checkout. Use rebate for 2 Extra Batteries
Complete the job with ease with the BOSCH Best Built Compact Tough 18-Volt 1
/2-Inch Lithium-Ion Hammer/Drill/Driver Kit. It is ready for all materials
including concrete, wood and metal. Enjoy the benefit of having the lightest
, most compact and most comfortable heavy duty 18V Lithium-Ion drill... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****e
发帖数: 5476 | 17 恩，Volt基本就是吹，发动机当发电机，铁路上用这技术快一个世纪了
加个电池用在汽车上，Volt也不是第一个，大忽悠比亚迪的F3DM出来一两年了，比Volt
便宜多了
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c******f
发帖数: 2622 | 18 1. 4 seater 是 Volt 的最大问题。车重是实打实的，在Crash中肯定比 Cruze 占优势
，惯性决定的。后排空间不大，不过由于是Hatchback, Cargo 空间还行。
2. GM 现在对电池是 8 年 10 万 mile 的 warranty. 我反正不准备开那么久
3. 中控并没有感觉混乱，从一上手就感觉不错。窗户虽然不大，但Volt 上有超大的后
视镜，保证有足够的视野。Primium trim 也有backup camera. 倒车的视野没有问题。
4. 所以从一开始就说明要住 SFH 才可以考虑 Volt
5. 1.4L 引擎并非直接输出动力，而主要是用来给驱动的电池充电, 电动车的扭矩对比
汽油车有先天优势。动力感没有问题。
我跑过100多的长途，没有感觉动力有什么下降的问题
6. Sport mode 肯定会减少 Range. 但如果你的目标历程就在30mile以下，也没什么好
担心的。开起来的爽快感还是提高不少的。 |
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k*******r
发帖数: 257 | 19 这些缺点不是可能， 是确实存在。
size问题是肯定的，坐四个人肯定很挤了， 尤其是后面两个人。 其实VOLT可以搞两门
的，给那些想花小钱爽一下新技术的。
我有6个同事买或租了VOLT 。VOLT的小毛病还不少的，steering, suspension, charge
是最会出问题的地方。同事里面没修过的车的是不存在的， 一位的suspension修了好
几次，最后按照lemon法给退了 ，换了LEAF。 |
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c******f
发帖数: 2622 | 20 所以当时买直接否定了 Leaf , Volt 至少有个 Range Extender.
这样说吧， Volt is the EV but with no range anxiety . 从技术上来说，Volt 还
是当前最先进的。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8 |
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c******f
发帖数: 2622 | 21 1. 4 seater 是 Volt 的最大问题。车重是实打实的，在Crash中肯定比 Cruze 占优势
，惯性决定的。后排空间不大，不过由于是Hatchback, Cargo 空间还行。
2. GM 现在对电池是 8 年 10 万 mile 的 warranty. 我反正不准备开那么久
3. 中控并没有感觉混乱，从一上手就感觉不错。窗户虽然不大，但Volt 上有超大的后
视镜，保证有足够的视野。Primium trim 也有backup camera. 倒车的视野没有问题。
4. 所以从一开始就说明要住 SFH 才可以考虑 Volt
5. 1.4L 引擎并非直接输出动力，而主要是用来给驱动的电池充电, 电动车的扭矩对比
汽油车有先天优势。动力感没有问题。
我跑过100多的长途，没有感觉动力有什么下降的问题
6. Sport mode 肯定会减少 Range. 但如果你的目标历程就在30mile以下，也没什么好
担心的。开起来的爽快感还是提高不少的。 |
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k*******r
发帖数: 257 | 22 这些缺点不是可能， 是确实存在。
size问题是肯定的，坐四个人肯定很挤了， 尤其是后面两个人。 其实VOLT可以搞两门
的，给那些想花小钱爽一下新技术的。
我有6个同事买或租了VOLT 。VOLT的小毛病还不少的，steering, suspension, charge
是最会出问题的地方。同事里面没修过的车的是不存在的， 一位的suspension修了好
几次，最后按照lemon法给退了 ，换了LEAF。 |
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c******f
发帖数: 2622 | 23 所以当时买直接否定了 Leaf , Volt 至少有个 Range Extender.
这样说吧， Volt is the EV but with no range anxiety . 从技术上来说，Volt 还
是当前最先进的。
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d*****g
发帖数: 1538 | 26 50麦一半儿高速，volt纯电部分不够用，每天还得用油。除非上班的地方也可以充电。
volt我刚开一周多，感觉真是不错，很喜欢。
但是没有车库="" 只有两个house之间的一块固定停车位="" （估计也没办法安充电桩=
"" :="" ？）="" :="" 目前主要考虑：="" :="" 选volt的理由：多少可以用用纯电，
又7500的tax="" credit，="" 总价会低一些。="" :="" 选ct200h：毕竟是lexus。还
比较保值。="" :="" 两个车马力在同档车里面还算比较大。重量也大。="" :="" 请大
家支招并推荐别的理想车型=""> |
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f*****r
发帖数: 229 | 28 Volt 的主要问题是对小家庭用有点小。后座只坐两个人也就罢了，腿都放不舒服。后
箱也很小。如果能和prius一样大，当然买volt了。
价格上，volt还是比prius plugin贵个1-2k吧。 |
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F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 29
it is not a fair comparison. volt and prius belongs to different generations
of technologies, volt is way more advanced.
after the tax incentives, a volt can actually cost less. even it costs 1-2k
more at purchase, don't forget it saves ~$1k in gas per year if you do short
commute. plus, it has less moving parts compared to that of a gas-engine
car, the maintenance cost is expected to be only 1/5 to 1/4; as a result,
the drivetrain can last much longer. |
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F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 30
from truecar, a fully loaded c-max energi 2014 has an MSRP of $37540, a
fully loaded volt has an MSRP of $40650, the difference is $3110. but in MA,
volt has a tax credit of $10000 ($7500+$2500), but c-max energi tax break
is only $5507 ($4007+$1500), this makes volt >$1000 cheaper. both
manufactures offer additional incentives which are not counted here. |
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f*****r
发帖数: 229 | 31 去掉tax credit之后吗？2014 prius plugin我见过24k的。不过是在加州前几个月，当
时有carpool sticker uncertainty. prius 12 miles肯定是问题。不过这个取决于自
己上班的距离。如果在10miles以内，还有充电的地方，问题也不大。
我不是说volt不好。但volt有自己的hard limitation：空间太小。大家说了很多volt
的好，好像是对这个觉得无所谓？我是觉得不适合家庭用。
其他还有cmax/fusion plugin，也是各有优缺点。
所以买什么，完全是个人决定。 |
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f*****r
发帖数: 229 | 32 纯从电动车用户可感知的技术来说吧，volt是比prius好不少：
1. 40 miles vs 12 miles。
2. prius的12 miles其实不是什么时候都能用：速度超过62mph, 就不行；加速比较猛
，也不行；启动时，也可能不行；用空调，也可能不行。但volt只要在range内，应该
都可以用吧。
3. volt操控比prius好，prius比起来更肉一些。
价钱也差不多。但空间太小会让一批人直接pass。 |
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o*******a
发帖数: 46 | 34 我lease一辆2014 Chevy Volt, 大家帮我看一下有没有被贵了:
MSRP: 38K (most option except leather)
36 months with 12K/Year
1200 (including fee + first month) ， I will get $1500 credit back from
California later.
350 (including tax for remaining 35 month)
我没有做过很多research.也没有跟别的dealer谈。
我试驾了chevy volt and nissan leaf. 感觉chevy volt好开点，外形也好看，比较实
用（没电的时候可以用油），还是美国车（抵制日货 :-) ）。不过lease nissan leaf
要便宜很多。 |
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F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 35
volt is an absolutely fantastic car. volt gen 1 has so many well-thoughtout
features, GM had invested so many R&D hours and testing in this car. it was
widely believed that GM loses money for selling every gen 1 volt.
I switched to the "sport" mode the other day and got wowed for the
acceleration. try it when you get yours. I am sure you will be impressed. |
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F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 36 http://insideevs.com/next-generation-2016-chevrolet-volt-debuts
recap, 50mile AER (Gen1: 38), 5-seat (Gen1: 4), 41 MPGcs (Gen1: 37), 102
MPGe (Gen1: 98), 18.4kWh battery (Gen1: 17.1), 3.6kWh charging (Gen1: 3.3)
price is not known yet, but hinted lower than Gen1 (34k MSRP base). if
starting at 30k, as rumored, should sell like hotcakes.
also, more videos/photos
http://insideevs.com/2016-chevrolet-volt-gallery/
official site:
http://www.chevrolet.com/2016-volt/ |
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r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 37 别理他们
几个丰田托自己开porsche ，2b，忽悠别人买丰田烂货
我只是出来揭露丰田问题，被他们抹黑而已
volt he camx很好选啊，看你预算了，预算够肯定上volt，技术更先进，纯电续航里程
有4、50mile
cmax的好处在于便宜，但是插电版，续航里程只有volt的一半
啊？ |
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P***e
发帖数: 804 | 38 自己试驾一下一下吧。 高速和local都试试。
cmax 纯电20迈。volt 40迈。 volt只能做4个人。 从技术创新来讲volt胜出。
别忘比较了federal, state, local tax incentive/rebates. |
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F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 39
>90% of the case, you will likely be driving all by yourself. the difference
is rather in the rear seat, or specifically, the 5th seat when you take
passengers.
if you need to haul 5 adults from time to time, or have tall passengers, you
may consider a larger interior. otherwise, the space in the volt is pretty
decent. the only way to find out is to set up a test drive.
I have been driving my family around with my gen2 volt. my son's car seat
makes the rear somewhat tight, but workable. seating... 阅读全帖 |
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F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 41
congrats. my 2014 volt is now officially my wife's commute car. I am on the
market for a 16 volt.
which dealer did you get your 15 volt?
this is must have in MA. still, when temperature is low, you want to burn a
little bit gas with the "Hold" mode to warm up the cabin. |
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发帖数: 40 | 42 ====update====
2015 Volt w/ security package 1, MSRP $36,500
OTD price including TTL: $26,350
-Federal tax credit: $7,500
No state incentives
Final OTD price w/ federal tax credit: $18,850
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想买一辆菜车，但是不喜欢新款volt的样子，有dealer报价2015旧款volt: $26,000
before TTL. Good price? Thanks! |
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s**********a
发帖数: 3273 | 43 我开 Volt, 我觉得 Volt 超好。开惯了Volt后，现在如果想升级，觉得唯一
的选择就是Tesla 了。 |
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F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 46
you only get a portion of the incentives.
if you browse the gm-volt forum, you will be surprised how many owners have
made the plan to keep their cars for long term (>8 years); the strong
confidence was built upon the much slower wear and tear of the gas engine. a
volt is believed to out last most ICE cars on the market.
200+ mile BEV can not replace a long-range PHEV like a volt, unless one can
recharge the battery within 5 min. |
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c******f
发帖数: 2622 | 47 三年前我在这里推荐过 Volt. 卖了家里的路虎买了俩辆 Volt。
三年前的帖子在这里: (www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Automobile/34253689.html)
最近把其中的一台
Trade it 换了
Tesla Model S.
我会慢慢来更新感受，尤其是作为一个已经开了三年多电车的用户的感受。（很多特斯
拉用户是从油车转过来的，可能首先的第一好感就是所有电车的安静，但对于电车用户
来说，很多benefit 都是习以为常的了）
总结一点:
Volt: 爽
Model S: 更爽 |
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F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 48
a volt is a plug-in hybrid (PHEV, i.e. serial hybrid), it is different from
a regular hybrid car (i.e. parallel hybrid) like a Prius in that it has a
large capacity battery.
the battery on a volt alone can power the car for 40-60 miles, just like a
battery electric car (BEV) such as a LEAF/Tesla, but after the battery
drains to a predetermined level, the gas engine (called an extender) kicks
in to function as a power generator (mostly) and charge the battery. that's
why it is called a "serial h... 阅读全帖 |
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