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【美国JRS之声】张伯伦单场100分，前无古人，后世可有来者？ 由 incredibilly 发
表在虎扑篮球·湿乎乎的话题 http://bbs.hupu.com/vote
Just how unbreakable is Wilt's 100-point game?
My friend and I were discussing unbreakable records in sports, and while we
agree that Wilt's is one of those records, I wonder just what needs to
happen in today's NBA for it to occur. Sure, Kobe got 81, but end of the day
, he was 19 points short and that's the closest anyone's ever got. There's
only been six 60 point games since then and Kobe's got half of those.
我跟朋友讨论体育界不可打破的纪录，讨论到了张伯伦100分的史上最高分。我就琢磨
着在当今的NBA赛场上要怎样做才能重现神迹。诚然，科比曾得到过惊呆众人的81分，
但说到底离大帅的纪录还差了19分，而这已经是最接近的了。自那以后只出现过六次60
+，科比自己占了一半。
ThunderTotallyNotJackinIt 394 分/分 3 天 ago
About as unbreakable as FDR's terms-in-office record.
跟罗斯福蝉联四届总统的纪录一样难破。
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hillbillyesq 81 分/分 2 天 ago
When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, when the seas go dry
and mountains blow in the wind like leaves, when Charlotte wins back-to-back
-to-back NBA Championships. Then Wilt's 100-point game record will fall, and
not before.
朝日西升暮东落，山似碎叶海枯涸。
夏城庄连三冠后，大帅伟绩始消磨。
TimberwolvesA_Freudian_Nip 204 分/分 2 天 ago
If Corey Brewer can put up 51, no scoring record is safe.
假如科里布鲁尔都能砍下51分，那这个纪录能不能被破还真不好说。
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Rocketsgrowles 31 分/分 2 天 ago
Sigh
黝黑我火
[CHI] Joakim Noahwjbc 139 分/分 3 天 ago
The nature of the game would have to change. But I think the most
untouchable record in sports is Cy Young's 511 wins as a pitcher. I can
imagine the powers that be changing basketball to make it an even higher-
scoring game. I cannot imagine baseball changing enough to allow any pitcher
to win 511 games. Even in Cy Young's own era, he was 94 games ahead of the
closest contender, Walter Johnson.
必须改变比赛的本质(才有可能)。但是我觉得体育界最遥不可及的纪录是棒球投手赛·
扬的511胜。我可以想象篮球比赛变得有越来越多的高比分，但我无法想象棒球比赛变
得能让任意一个投手赢下511场。即便在赛扬所处的时代，他也领先第二名华特·强森
94个胜场。
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Jazzteamregime 44 分/分 3 天 ago
I weirdly think Stockton's assist record is unbreakable also
我觉得斯托克顿的助攻纪录也同样空前绝后。这样想是不是有点怪怪的。
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Sunsjjwin 48 分/分 3 天 ago
That's not weird at all actually. Stockton had longevity, a great roster
with shooters, one of the (if not the) best pick and roll tandems ever, and
the rare pass first mentality. It can be touched, but kids grow up to want
to be the guy and score all the time. It'll be really hard to ever touch the
record.
一点都不奇怪。斯托克顿职业生涯奇长无比，身边射手环绕，跟马龙搭档可能是史上最
强挡拆二人组而且是罕见的“优先传球”的控卫。理论上这个纪录其实是可以试一试去
冲击的，但是现在的娃们脑子里想的都是将来成为得分狂人。所以说实际上要破不太可
能。
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Bullssurreptitious_chode 46 分/分 2 天 ago
Rondo on a team with Durant and Love.
左雷神，右爱神，隆多在当中。此队如何？
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Spurssurreptitious_wank 16 分/分 2 天 ago
That's just unfair.
还有没有王法？
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BullsHTCGM[S] 8 分/分 3 天 ago
Is there a 'pass-first' point guard in the NBA? Seems like nowadays if you'
re a well-regarded PG, you're a primary shooting threat. That being said,
Stockton IS on the all-time scoring list listing the top 50.
NBA还有没有“传球优先”的控卫？似乎如今你要是个种子控卫，首先得是个好投手，
能造成得分威胁。这么说来，传球"优先"如斯托克顿者，在得分榜上也排得进历史前五十
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Kingsunceunceunce 42 分/分 3 天 ago
Rondo?
隆多呢？
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Timberwolvesace625 26 分/分 3 天 ago
And Rubio. Technically Nash, but not for too much longer.
以及路标。理论上还有老衲，但老衲撑不了多久了。
wastebook 26 分/分 2 天 ago
How about Wilt Chamberlain's record of sleeping with 20,000 women? With
today's STDs, I doubt that any basketball player would dare try.
张大帅的两万床战纪录如何？看现在这性病泛滥的节奏，我怀疑都没人敢试。
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timacles 35 分/分 2 天 ago
Or how about the record of Wilt throwing a cougar by its tail? Was it a weak
era for cougars? Could he do it with the bigger and more athletic cougars
of today?
或者大帅徒手揪尾扔美洲豹？那时候的美洲豹也太弱鸡了吧。如今的豹子块头更大，运
动力更强，大帅还能再来一次么？
【注：张伯伦1987年3月1日对《纽约时报》自述:“某天我开车，经过亚利桑那州还是
新墨西哥州，车子坏了，我把车子搬到路边;这时跳出来一只美洲豹，我就把它扔进了
灌木丛!”】
eatingpuppies 50 分/分 2 天 ago
I've read that the 100 point game, Wilt's team was actively trying to get
him the record by dumping the ball to him in the paint every possession and
the other team would constantly foul him to prevent him from scoring.
我曾经看过那场100分的比赛。费城勇士队员每次拿球都塞给禁区里的大帅，憋着劲要
让他破纪录。而对手则不断地犯规阻止他得分。
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Clipperslucasjr5 29 分/分 2 天 ago
That's true, but 32 60+ point games prove that there was a reason for trying
that strategy. He was the most unstoppable player of all time.
没错，但是这么“砍帅”绝对是事出有因的，32场60+就是最好的证明。史上最势不可
挡的球员木有之一。
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WarriorsJustKlay 21 分/分 2 天 ago
The game wasn't considered amazing at the time.. it was considered a mockery
.. Wilt's team was up huge and it was a blow out.. but they kept fouling the
other team to get the ball back and feed it to Wilt.
I personally don't count that record.
PS: Score was like 160-140 or something like that
可当时的比赛却不怎么精彩，，相反却有点沦为笑柄。费城勇士当时领先很多，而且是
一边倒。。。但是他们还是一直对尼克斯犯规，拿球再喂给大帅。
我个人不太认可这个纪录
ps：最后比分好像是160多比140多。
HornetsimeanYOLOright 149 分/分 3 天 ago
Practically untouchable. I'd claim it's (one of) the most unbreakable single
-game record in all of sports.
Only ONE player has ever gotten to 80% of his record. Only THREE players
have ever gotten to 70%. Only TWENTY-TWO have ever gotten to 60%.
When even getting halfway to a single-game record (50 points) is a
monumental, almost "once-in-a-lifetime" type feat, you realize how
untouchable the mark really is.
几乎不可破。我个人觉得是整个体育史上最难以打破的单场比赛纪录（之一）。
只有"1"个球员能达到该纪录的八成水准；只有"3"个球员能达到七成；只有"22"个能做
到六成。
即便你单场得分有这一半（50分），都已经可以敲锣打鼓立牌坊了，已经算是“一辈子
一次也值了”的高光亮点了。可想而知百分纪录有多么牢不可破。
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youknowwhosucks 32 分/分 2 天 ago
Wilt said himself that he thought the most difficult record of his for any
player in the NBA was his 48.1 minutes per game over the 1950something
season. I mean like wtf. He averaged over a game per game. That's absolutely
insane
大帅说他自己觉得他最难破的记录是场均上场48.1分钟，大概是五几年的某个赛季。我
想说这毛线怎么搞的，他每场平均打一场多的比赛，丧心病狂。
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Trail BlazersManuel___Calavera 197 分/分 3 天 ago
His 55 rebound record is probably less likely to be broken
他的55板纪录更不好破了
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Bullsredrum7 100 分/分 2 天 ago
and the number of times he scored 60+ games (32) and the next highest is
Jordan who has 5.
再加得分60+的场次(32场)，第二名乔神才5次...
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76ersBoomBoomSpaceRocket 77 分/分 2 天 ago
Add 7 straight 50 point games to the list.
再加连续7场50+...
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SunsKablaow 66 分/分 2 天 ago
add an avarage of 50points per game to that list...
再加赛季场均50+...
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Trail BlazersEmleaux 75 分/分 2 天 ago*
And go ahead and add 10,000 ladies to that list.
楼下注意队形，再加一万床上尤物
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MagicAntiAntiDrug 41 分/分 2 天 ago
Paul George might buy that one. Sorry
不好意思，单论床技泡椒可以一战
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Wizards_masterofdisaster 16 分/分 2 天 ago
It'd have to be men and women combined.
那必须是男女通吃咯
heysuess 89 分/分 2 天 ago
I'll just say this: It's a lot less unbreakable than it was before Kobe got
81. 81 was unbelievable.
不如说在唠嗑的81分之前牢不可破。81分太不可思议
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Bullschitownbulls92 153 分/分 2 天 ago
I think kobe's 81 is definitely more impressive than wilt's 100
我觉得唠嗑的81分绝对比大帅的100分来得更震撼
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Lakersjustgivingsomeadvice 71 分/分 2 天 ago
I think Kobe's 62/3 is more impressive. More efficient, more points/minute
iirc, and against a team that made it to the Finals that year. (Seriously,
that last bit is mind-boggling: he outscored a Finals team by himself for
three quarters.)
我觉得唠嗑三节62分更屌。更高效，每分钟得分更多，而且对阵的小牛当年进了总决赛
（最后一点尤其碉堡：三节时间凭一己之力射穿了当季的一支总决赛队伍）
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Grizzliesscoooty54 90 分/分 2 天 ago
There is at least evidence of Kobe's 81.
至少唠嗑的81分有据可查。
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Pacersdgillz 46 分/分 2 天 ago
Plenty of evidence exists of Wilt's 100 point game, just no video.
大帅的100分比赛也有很多"据"可查，只是没有录像了。
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Lakersdeveldevil 25 分/分 2 天 ago
And all the evidence points to it being a farce of a game.
所有证据都证明那只不过是闹剧一场
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Kevin Durantmaster3183 7 分/分 2 天 ago
What exactly do you mean? Just curious.
愿闻其详
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Pistonsshingleding900 27 分/分 2 天 ago*
Apparently both sides gave up actually playing so Wilt could reach 100. The
other team just fouled him every single possession. His teammates passed to
him when they had wide open shots(although that's not too bad). But
basically a joke of a game.
明显双方都不打了，只是为了大帅能刷100分。他每次拿球对手都犯规，他的队友有大
空位也不投，统统传给他（无可厚非）。简直开玩笑。
Trail BlazersWhite_Howard 27 分/分 3 天 ago
About as unbreakable as his 50 ppg season average and his 25 rpg average.
Wilt has so many records that will never be broken because the game was so
much different back then.
跟他的赛季场均50分和25板一样高高在上。大帅的纪录多如牛毛，可破者寥若晨星，因
为如今的比赛与当初已大相径庭。
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GrizzliesJeff_ree 77 分/分 2 天 ago
Not to mention that he was a 7'1" 275 lb center who had a 42+ inch vertical
and ran a 4.4 second 40 yard dash. What even the fuck.
更不要说他身高2米17，体重250斤，纵跳超一米，40码4秒4. 让不让人活了
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76ersBoomBoomSpaceRocket 42 分/分 2 天 ago
I'm glad you mentioned how crazy atheltic he was. It always seems like
people think he was so dominant because he was taller than everyone. There
were big guys back then too. He did have some size advantage but that would
mean nothin if he weren't so insanely good.
还好你提到了他极度bt的运动能力。总说他之所以统治力强是因为比别人都高，可当时
也不乏高壮大块头啊。他确实体型占优，但要不是身体素质这么变态怕也早已泯然众人
矣。
LakersAetherealDe 65 分/分 3 天 ago
K, unpopular opinion, I don't think it's unbreakable.
Kobe scored 55 in a half. He didn't get an overtime, and he isn't
necessarily the best scorer since Wilt.
Don't get me wrong, it's a long shot. TONS of things would have to align,
but you can see some glimpses and chances of how it could happen
这么说可能不招待见，不过我觉得并非牢不可破。
科比半场砍了55分，而且没有加时，而且他也不一定是大帅之后最屌的分手。
大家别误会，其实破的希望很渺茫。必须天时地利人和万事俱备才能刮起破纪录的东风
，但你总能在"不可能"中瞥见一丝可能的希望。
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ThunderWombatDominator 11 分/分 2 天 ago
Right. I mean Toronto sucked, but not like the worst team to ever play
basketball. They were 14-27 when it happened with Bosh. I mean they were
terrible, but Kobe got 81 on 46 shots. He got 20 attempted free throws too.
【If you think about it, all a guy would need is for the team to give him
the same chance to chuck it up 46 times.】
没错。我意思是猛龙确实打得稀烂，但也不是史上最差，当时龙王尚在且14胜27负。猛
龙实乃弱龙，但渣科却是46投砍的81分，另加20罚。仔细想想，要做到这点只需要队友
创造类似的投篮机会，然后不厌其烦地重复46次。 | d**********u
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: 【美国JRS之声】张伯伦单场100分，前无古人，后世可有来者？ 由 incredibilly 发
: 表在虎扑篮球·湿乎乎的话题 http://bbs.hupu.com/vote
: Just how unbreakable is Wilt's 100-point game?
: My friend and I were discussing unbreakable records in sports, and while we
: agree that Wilt's is one of those records, I wonder just what needs to
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