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Belief版 - Celsus
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jym2307关于犹太人在Talmud中的说明并没有展开例子,即使犹太人提到一个疑似耶稣
的人,他们的说法也跟基督徒说的事迹有很大差别。
这些后来的材料虽然不足信,但也不失为以后讨论的材料。
Related narrative from Celsus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud#cite_ref-68
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celsus
The Pagan philosopher Celsus, writing circa 150 to 200 CE, wrote a narrative
describing a Jew who discounts the story of the Virgin Birth of Jesus.[69]
Scholars have remarked on the parallels (adultery, father's name "Panthera",
return from Egypt, magical powers) between Celsus' account and the Talmudic
narratives.[68] In Celsus' account, the Jew says:
". . .[Jesus] came from a Jewish village and from a poor country woman
who earned her living by spinning. He says that she was driven out by her
husband, who was a carpenter by trade, as she was convicted of adultery.
Then he says that after she had been driven out by her husband and while she
was wandering about in a disgraceful way she secretly gave birth to Jesus.
He states that because he [Jesus] was poor he hired himself out as a workman
in Egypt, and there tried his hand at certain magical powers on which the
Egyptians pride themselves; he returned full of conceit, because of these
powers, and on account of them gave himself the title of God . . . the
mother of Jesus is described as having been turned out by the carpenter who
was betrothed to her, as she had been convicted of adultery and had a child
by a certain soldier named Panthera."[70][71]
70 ^ Celsus' quote from Peter Sch?fer, Jesus in the Talmud, Princeton
University Press, 2007. p 18-19
71 ^ Bernhard Pick, The Talmud: What It Is and What It Knows of Jesus and
His Followers, Kessinger Publishing, LLC, 2007. p 117-120
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