c*******9 发帖数: 6411 | 1 it still back the original article that Ye's performace is 'anomalous', if
so what about american teen's 16 seconds improvement in past 6 months. their
apologize is for not detailing the proof for the 'anomalous'
The story’s intention as an Explainer was to examine how science can help
resolve debates over extraordinary performances, not to examine those
performance statistics in detail. Several analyses done by others convinced
us that it was fair to characterize Ye’s performance as ‘anomalous’ — in
the sense that it was statistically unusual. But we acknowledge that the
combination of errors discussed above and the absence of a more detailed
discussion of the statistics (which with hindsight we regret) gave the
impression that we were supporting accusations against her, even though this
was emphatically not our intention. For that, we apologize to our readers
and to Ye Shiwen. |
c*******9 发帖数: 6411 | 2 if it has to be statistically usual, how the heck can one athlete break
record. |
Q*****n 发帖数: 4546 | 3 究竟是不是anomalos很难辩清楚的,不同人也有不同的观点;anomalous也不一定就不
好,Bolt那也是anomalous。关键它不应该暗示服药,这个道歉里面已经承认了原文造
成这种印象。 |
n****y 发帖数: 6260 | 4 是不是anomalous也不是谁上嘴唇一碰下嘴唇就能出来得,至少他得给个正常的范围吧
。啊,对,给出范围就发现原来这个一点儿都不anomalous,怎么发文章啊!
nature这个歉道得,根本就没有学术期刊的样子,不痛不痒的,是不是就是打算糊弄过
去了事啊。 |
c*******9 发帖数: 6411 | 5 anomalous basically indicate cheating in this context, at least to a regular
reader. this is not a scientific journal paper.
those guys are foxes. |
s*********d 发帖数: 912 | 6 另外,用统计来分析这些出类拔萃的运动员本来就很不严肃。 统计本身不是给你这么
用的。理论上说,运动员的成就代表人类对自身极限的探索,而奥运会本来就是产生奇
迹的地方。然后你认为人家应该符合普通人的统计规律。。。何况对普通人的能力我们
还没有很好地认识。。。这么干简直是摸黑古往今来的运动天才, 无视统计学家们苦
口婆心的警告而试图用自己的理论去选择性的忽视事实。。。 |
i********e 发帖数: 50 | 7 I prefer that article is retracted.
And fire that editor. |
c*******9 发帖数: 6411 | 8 basically the apology is like this:
you are cheating, but we do not list the facts correctly and should have
used the right statistics analysis here, for that ( for not prove it the
right way we should), we apologize.
( we still stand by our point though) |