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c********a
发帖数: 767
1
我还是对陪审团的法律形式非常有信心。
这里懂法律的给我说说,6个陪审员要一致才能判有罪是不是?只要有1个无罪,是否就
是无罪?
6个陪审员,都是些什们人?
c********a
发帖数: 767
2
Juror 的background, 大家都偏爱female juror,呵呵,这个好像没有任何悬念啊。
这个case很有意思,我现在怀疑,检查官用second degree murder是否是无间道,其实
大家都知道怎么回事,现在就是皇帝的新衣,看戏呢
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Juror B29:
She is Hispanic and black
She just moved to Florida four months ago from Chicago.
She has eight children and works at a nursing home.
Juror B76:
She is white
She has lived in Seminole County since 1975.
She has called police about kids vandalizing signs.
She has family members who own firearms.
Juror B37:
She is white
She has lived in Seminole County for 18 years.
She used to carry a concealed weapons permit.
Juror B51:
She is white
She has been a resident of Seminole County for nine years.
She moved to Florida from Atlanta, Georgia.
She does not have any children.
She retired from a career in real estate, and also worked as a director,
supervising 1,200 employees.
Juror E6:
She is white
She is married and has two children.
She has lived in Seminole County for two years.
Her husband and son own guns.
She was involved in a domestic violence incident in her past.
Juror E40:
She is white
She is married with one son.
She moved to Seminole County from Iowa seven months ago.
She served as a safety officer for 25 years.
b*x
发帖数: 5456
3
criminal case 要unanimous verdict吧,就是所有人要意见一致, 不一致就没法
verdict。

【在 c********a 的大作中提到】
: 我还是对陪审团的法律形式非常有信心。
: 这里懂法律的给我说说,6个陪审员要一致才能判有罪是不是?只要有1个无罪,是否就
: 是无罪?
: 6个陪审员,都是些什们人?

b*x
发帖数: 5456
4
http://criminal.lawyers.com/Criminal-Law-Basics/Jury-Voting-Req
Jury Voting Requirements to Return a Verdict
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Jurors in a criminal trial have the responsibility to decide whether an
accused individual, or defendant, is guilty of the crime charged by the
federal or state government. There may be many jury decisions to be made
since the criminal case may have multiple defendants and multiple charged
crimes. These decisions are returned to the court in the form of a verdict.
To return a verdict to the court, the jurors must first vote and agree with
the decisions contained in the verdict. The jury voting requirements are
major factors in determining whether a defendant will be found guilty of a
charged crime. The greater the number of required jurors that are needed to
agree on the verdict, the greater the chance a defendant will be found not
guilty. The number of jurors required to agree on the verdict varies between
the federal and state courts.
Unanimous Vote Only Required in Federal Criminal Trials
A verdict in a federal criminal case must be made by a unanimous vote. If
one juror disagrees with the rest of the jurors and votes differently, a
verdict can't be returned to the court. This right provides great protection
to the defendant and requires the government to have to prove to each juror
that the defendant committed the charged crime.
The unanimity requirement doesn't extend to state criminal courts. States
have the authority to decide whether or not to require a unanimous vote to
return a criminal jury verdict. However, only two states have chosen not to
require juries to reach unanimous verdicts: Louisiana and Oregon. Both of
these states will allow verdicts by a vote of 10 to 2.
Louisiana does require a unanimous verdict in capital criminal cases. A
capital crime is one that can be punishable by death. Oregon requires a
unanimous verdict in first-degree murder cases. A first-degree murder is a
murder that's committed with premeditation or during the course of a serious
felony.
What Does Unanimous Voting Mean?
In order for jurors to be unanimous, they must agree that the government
proved each element of the charged crime. However, they don't have to always
agree as to the exact facts that led to the crime. They must unanimously
find that the defendant is guilty of the crime. For example, if a defendant
is charged with first-degree murder, there's a unanimous verdict if half the
jurors believe he committed the crime by premeditation and the other half
believe he committed it as part of a felony. They all believe he's guilty of
first-degree murder.
Purpose for a Unanimous Jury Voting Requirement
In order to convict a defendant, the government must prove to the jury that
he committed the charged crime beyond a reasonable doubt. A reasonable doubt
exists when a juror can't say with moral certainty that a defendant is
guilty. The unanimous voting rule supports the reasonable doubt standard
since every individual juror must not have any reasonable doubts. However,
if a state allows verdicts without unanimous voting, a defendant can be
convicted even though one or two jurors may have reasonable doubt as to the
defendant's guilt.
Required Unanimous Jury Instruction
Jury instructions are the legal rules given by the court to the jurors by
which they must follow during their deliberations. In a criminal case that
requires the verdict to be unanimous, the court must instruct the jury of
this requirement. Failure to provide this instruction is an improper error
that may allow the defendant to have the verdict reversed on appeal.
Required Number of Jurors
Generally, a federal criminal jury is required to have 12 people. This
requirement can be waived by the defendant. The 12-person jury requirement
doesn't extend to the states. States may choose to have as few as six people
on a jury for criminal trials. However, if the jury is small, the verdict
is required to be unanimous.
Questions for Your Attorney
If I am charged in federal court with possessing cocaine, am I entitled to a
unanimous verdict by a jury of 12 people? What if it's state court?
If there's a disagreement among the jurors as to whether I am guilty of a
charged crime, how long can the jury deliberations last in an attempt to
have a unanimous verdict?
What are the advantages and disadvantages of waiving the 12-person jury
requirement in federal court?
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u*********r
发帖数: 2735
5
looks like 5 not guity vs 1 guity, and end up with hung jury..

【在 c********a 的大作中提到】
: Juror 的background, 大家都偏爱female juror,呵呵,这个好像没有任何悬念啊。
: 这个case很有意思,我现在怀疑,检查官用second degree murder是否是无间道,其实
: 大家都知道怎么回事,现在就是皇帝的新衣,看戏呢
: -----------------
: Juror B29:
: She is Hispanic and black
: She just moved to Florida four months ago from Chicago.
: She has eight children and works at a nursing home.
: Juror B76:
: She is white

b*x
发帖数: 5456
6
真还是又脑残的

★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

【在 u*********r 的大作中提到】
: looks like 5 not guity vs 1 guity, and end up with hung jury..
N********n
发帖数: 13236
7
只有脑残才相信这年头还有公平。。。

【在 b*x 的大作中提到】
: 真还是又脑残的
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8

D******9
发帖数: 2665
8
哪个科普一下, 那个黑瓦怎么威胁到zimmerman. 导致他开枪?
b*x
发帖数: 5456
9
你真是矫情, 这是常识啊, Jury做到这个地步, 证据这么明显居然还认为guilty,
这明显的是有bias opinion。 你要是为了公平到美国来的, 可以回火星了。
火星只有你和XXR, 绝对公平, 你186绝对完胜160. 你打完了还可以爆, 绝对公平。

【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
: 只有脑残才相信这年头还有公平。。。
a********e
发帖数: 563
10
你在哪儿看到的,刚才吃早饭时看TV,jury好像还在deliberation,不过大多数
analysts认为会mistrial.只有cnn上面一个说,小jury肯定会not guilty

【在 u*********r 的大作中提到】
: looks like 5 not guity vs 1 guity, and end up with hung jury..
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a********e
发帖数: 563
11
"It's a women's world" haha,可能是觉得女性比较open-minded,容易被sway

【在 c********a 的大作中提到】
: Juror 的background, 大家都偏爱female juror,呵呵,这个好像没有任何悬念啊。
: 这个case很有意思,我现在怀疑,检查官用second degree murder是否是无间道,其实
: 大家都知道怎么回事,现在就是皇帝的新衣,看戏呢
: -----------------
: Juror B29:
: She is Hispanic and black
: She just moved to Florida four months ago from Chicago.
: She has eight children and works at a nursing home.
: Juror B76:
: She is white

N********n
发帖数: 13236
12
要是有公平的话这case根本就不该启动。




【在 b*x 的大作中提到】
: 你真是矫情, 这是常识啊, Jury做到这个地步, 证据这么明显居然还认为guilty,
: 这明显的是有bias opinion。 你要是为了公平到美国来的, 可以回火星了。
: 火星只有你和XXR, 绝对公平, 你186绝对完胜160. 你打完了还可以爆, 绝对公平。

T*R
发帖数: 36302
13
简单说一下,据说是这样,Z开始跟踪T,同时报警,大概T发现了,就躲起来,Z跟丢了
,然后就回家,结果T大概观察了一下Z,觉得Z不是他的对手,就开始反跟踪Z。跟到Z
的车前,Z好像上了自己的车或是要上,T和他发生了口角,然后打起来。
T在上,Z在下,然后就开枪了。
开枪的地点是在Z的车旁。
同时警方检测出T的体内有大麻。这可能是一个因素。
不知道真实情况,这个是传说,或是Z的说法。

【在 D******9 的大作中提到】
: 哪个科普一下, 那个黑瓦怎么威胁到zimmerman. 导致他开枪?
s******s
发帖数: 13035
14
中间实际发生了什么,除了Z以外没人确切知道。不过奇葩的是,
其他案件都是DA拍出一大堆证据,defence找reasonable doubt. 这
个案子,是defense拍出一大堆证据,DA要求jury consider other
POSSIBILITIES. 这种垃圾案子,正常法官早就dismiss了。
这个案子原来根本没有起诉,是巴马上电视说T是the son he never
had. 那边换警长,换主要调查员,然后调了一个DA过去,霸王硬上弓
啊。对Z来说,只要判进去就没得好,就算无罪,也说不定哪天被灭了

Z

【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 简单说一下,据说是这样,Z开始跟踪T,同时报警,大概T发现了,就躲起来,Z跟丢了
: ,然后就回家,结果T大概观察了一下Z,觉得Z不是他的对手,就开始反跟踪Z。跟到Z
: 的车前,Z好像上了自己的车或是要上,T和他发生了口角,然后打起来。
: T在上,Z在下,然后就开枪了。
: 开枪的地点是在Z的车旁。
: 同时警方检测出T的体内有大麻。这可能是一个因素。
: 不知道真实情况,这个是传说,或是Z的说法。

l******g
发帖数: 6771
15
无罪了
i*****t
发帖数: 9074
16
不错,司法能顶住压力判无罪。
i*****t
发帖数: 9074
17
希望华人要更关注自己的案件,原来的陈果仁案件的悲剧不要再发生。
c********a
发帖数: 767
18
看到没有,司法的justice 还得靠妇女们,你们男的除了打来打去,还能干什么?
开个玩笑,早就说了,这个是演戏,O8的面子李子都有了,往second-degree搞,就是
无间道
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