S*p
发帖数: 1483 | 1 01/06/2011: House Bill to Remove Immigration Lottery Program and Use the
Visa Numbers for Certain Employment-Based Immigration Programs
* Yesterday, Rep. Darrell Issa of California introduced H.R.43 to amend
the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the diversity immigrant
program and to re-allocate those visas (50,000) to certain employment-based
immigrants who obtain an advanced degree in the United States. The bill has
been referred to the House Judiciary Committee, which will be chaired by Rep
. Larmar Smith of Texas. House Immigration Subcommittee will be chaired by
Rep. Steve King of Iowa. The Homeland Security Committee will be chaired by
another King of New York. |
m********r
发帖数: 2895 | 2 这个要是能成也能解决中国EB2的问题---但是显然成不了的
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【在 S*p 的大作中提到】
: 01/06/2011: House Bill to Remove Immigration Lottery Program and Use the
: Visa Numbers for Certain Employment-Based Immigration Programs
: * Yesterday, Rep. Darrell Issa of California introduced H.R.43 to amend
: the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the diversity immigrant
: program and to re-allocate those visas (50,000) to certain employment-based
: immigrants who obtain an advanced degree in the United States. The bill has
: been referred to the House Judiciary Committee, which will be chaired by Rep
: . Larmar Smith of Texas. House Immigration Subcommittee will be chaired by
: Rep. Steve King of Iowa. The Homeland Security Committee will be chaired by
: another King of New York.
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B*****g
发帖数: 34098 | 3 nod.
【在 m********r 的大作中提到】
: 这个要是能成也能解决中国EB2的问题---但是显然成不了的
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t****1
发帖数: 827 | 4 我看到提案，就猜出来提案人一定是共和党人，一查，果然不错。
我如果看到新闻说某个政客因为腐败被抓，我的第一感觉就是此人大概是民主党人。经验表明，我的感觉十次大概有九次是对的，偶尔有例外。
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【在 S*p 的大作中提到】
: 01/06/2011: House Bill to Remove Immigration Lottery Program and Use the
: Visa Numbers for Certain Employment-Based Immigration Programs
: * Yesterday, Rep. Darrell Issa of California introduced H.R.43 to amend
: the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the diversity immigrant
: program and to re-allocate those visas (50,000) to certain employment-based
: immigrants who obtain an advanced degree in the United States. The bill has
: been referred to the House Judiciary Committee, which will be chaired by Rep
: . Larmar Smith of Texas. House Immigration Subcommittee will be chaired by
: Rep. Steve King of Iowa. The Homeland Security Committee will be chaired by
: another King of New York.
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h**********h
发帖数: 589 | 5 也不一定强求50000个visa名额都拿过来，
拿20000每年个过来，中国就current了。
谁有Rep. Darrell Issa的联系方式吗？
俺想跟他联系一下，那20000过来，就像H1b的advanced degree那样就行了。
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【在 S*p 的大作中提到】
: 01/06/2011: House Bill to Remove Immigration Lottery Program and Use the
: Visa Numbers for Certain Employment-Based Immigration Programs
: * Yesterday, Rep. Darrell Issa of California introduced H.R.43 to amend
: the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the diversity immigrant
: program and to re-allocate those visas (50,000) to certain employment-based
: immigrants who obtain an advanced degree in the United States. The bill has
: been referred to the House Judiciary Committee, which will be chaired by Rep
: . Larmar Smith of Texas. House Immigration Subcommittee will be chaired by
: Rep. Steve King of Iowa. The Homeland Security Committee will be chaired by
: another King of New York.
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h**********h
发帖数: 589 | 6 sent my idea to him by link
http://issa.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article
【在 h**********h 的大作中提到】
: 也不一定强求50000个visa名额都拿过来，
: 拿20000每年个过来，中国就current了。
: 谁有Rep. Darrell Issa的联系方式吗？
: 俺想跟他联系一下，那20000过来，就像H1b的advanced degree那样就行了。
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t****1
发帖数: 827 | 7 抽签移民来的基本是吃福利的，民主党的票仓，可能还能引进一些恐怖分子。
这个提案难度很大，即使众议院通过，参议院还是民主党控制，基本没戏。
如果能找到一个民主党参议员+一个共和党参议员在参议院提出类似提案，那还有点希望。
【在 h**********h 的大作中提到】
: 也不一定强求50000个visa名额都拿过来，
: 拿20000每年个过来，中国就current了。
: 谁有Rep. Darrell Issa的联系方式吗？
: 俺想跟他联系一下，那20000过来，就像H1b的advanced degree那样就行了。
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h**********h
发帖数: 589 | 8 唉，又有什么办法呢。俺都等了3年多了，错过07年7月的放水，
现在好惨，换工作不能换，老婆不好找工作，靠，万恶的排期。
【在 t****1 的大作中提到】
: 抽签移民来的基本是吃福利的，民主党的票仓，可能还能引进一些恐怖分子。
: 这个提案难度很大，即使众议院通过，参议院还是民主党控制，基本没戏。
: 如果能找到一个民主党参议员+一个共和党参议员在参议院提出类似提案，那还有点希望。
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t***j
发帖数: 2620 | 9 这个通过的概率现在很大，原来众议院被民主党的西班牙裔绑架，基本除了CIR什么都
不让过，现在众议院的民主党是少数了。SENATE里西班牙裔人太少。 |
m***s
发帖数: 1094 | 10 Issa already did it before ( back in 2008) and it didn't work, what makes
you think it is going to work this time? |
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h**********h
发帖数: 589 | 11 Issa这次步子太大，估计会扯着蛋
要取消绿卡抽签，难啊。
如果他只是想把抽签绿卡从5万降到4万，
拿一万给EB2，我觉得通过的希望就大很大。
相当EB2每年多1万spillover给美国学历的。
请兄弟们去给他发信说说。
【在 m***s 的大作中提到】
: Issa already did it before ( back in 2008) and it didn't work, what makes
: you think it is going to work this time?
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z***e
发帖数: 1757 | 12 regardless of how slim the chance for this to pass, we should help to build
ground work by contacting members of the house immigration committee and
someone in the senate who may sponsor this. |
z***e
发帖数: 1757 | 13 Below is the link to the bill and relevant information. You can at the
minimum to express your view about the bill there by polling, and spread the
words by share it with your friends. You can share it on facebook, tweeter
, etc. as well.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h43/show |
t****1
发帖数: 827 | 14 好久没见，很高兴看到你又回来了。你说的有道理。希望NIU能够商讨一个计划，这样大家可以统一行动。我觉得如果能够策动一个民主党参议员加一个共和党参议员在参议院同时提出类似法案，那希望就比较大了。民主党方面也许可以联系吴振伟，不知道他是否愿意帮助华人。或者一些立场偏右的民主党参议员。
build
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: regardless of how slim the chance for this to pass, we should help to build
: ground work by contacting members of the house immigration committee and
: someone in the senate who may sponsor this.
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g********n
发帖数: 4054 | |
o**z
发帖数: 10 | |
c*********n
发帖数: 1371 | 17 我觉得这个提案很牛逼。lottery是针对世界其他众多国家中的很少数人，
所以强大的反对声音不容易出现。所用的visa名额也只是拆东墙补西墙，
没有挤压美国人的就业，再加上一个“ who obtain an advanced
degree in the United States”，又可以防止国外移民的涌入。
如果有反对的声音，稍微做些让步，少给EB点名额,也完全可以缓解现在
毫无希望的局势。 |
L*****g
发帖数: 646 | 18 绿卡抽签早就该取消了
也只有美国政府这么脑残会想出抽签发绿卡这种馊主意。 |
S*******r
发帖数: 11017 | 19 如果能通过这个法案每年多弄数万EB名额，除了显而易见的好处外，还有一点就是不像
每年的剩余名额会被蝗虫般的老印给吃了：EB2I许多是BS+5YR的那种从EB3I升级上来的
，或者是ICC从印度群招、没有美国MS学位的，如果这个法案能搞定，大部分EB2I是无
缘得利的。我中EB2将成为最大受益群体。 |
I******e
发帖数: 6478 | 20 这个不好搞吧，有背移民多样性的原则
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【在 S*p 的大作中提到】
: 01/06/2011: House Bill to Remove Immigration Lottery Program and Use the
: Visa Numbers for Certain Employment-Based Immigration Programs
: * Yesterday, Rep. Darrell Issa of California introduced H.R.43 to amend
: the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the diversity immigrant
: program and to re-allocate those visas (50,000) to certain employment-based
: immigrants who obtain an advanced degree in the United States. The bill has
: been referred to the House Judiciary Committee, which will be chaired by Rep
: . Larmar Smith of Texas. House Immigration Subcommittee will be chaired by
: Rep. Steve King of Iowa. The Homeland Security Committee will be chaired by
: another King of New York.
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c*********n
发帖数: 1371 | 21 我觉得要是真有人问这个问题，一句话就可以给抽回去：
讨论dream 和CIR的时候，多样性原则跑哪去了？
【在 I******e 的大作中提到】
: 这个不好搞吧，有背移民多样性的原则
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I******e
发帖数: 6478 | 22 讨论那些不等于否定这个原则
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得要是真有人问这个问题，一句话就可以给抽回去：
: 讨论dream 和CIR的时候，多样性原则跑哪去了？
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c*********n
发帖数: 1371 | 23 呵呵，dream 和 CIR都不等于否定这个原则，区区几万EB就是否定这个原则了？
【在 I******e 的大作中提到】
: 讨论那些不等于否定这个原则
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t****1
发帖数: 827 | 24 唉，八字还没一撇，这里又开始吵上了。每年一百多万新移民进来，7%的国家限制已经
保证多样性了。去掉5万，没啥大不了的。原则都是人订出来的，利益都是自己争取来
的，还是团结对外吧。希望NIU能提出一个统一的行动计划，这样大家可以集中力量行
动。行动了，不一定有戏，不行动肯定没戏。 |
c*********n
发帖数: 1371 | 25 其实就是讨论一下，我还真不会吵架。不过你的建议挺好的。
【在 t****1 的大作中提到】
: 唉，八字还没一撇，这里又开始吵上了。每年一百多万新移民进来，7%的国家限制已经
: 保证多样性了。去掉5万，没啥大不了的。原则都是人订出来的，利益都是自己争取来
: 的，还是团结对外吧。希望NIU能提出一个统一的行动计划，这样大家可以集中力量行
: 动。行动了，不一定有戏，不行动肯定没戏。
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H**E
发帖数: 620 | 26 SUPPORT THIS. 希望NIU能提出一个统一的行动计划，这样大家可以集中力量行
动。行动了，不一定有戏，不行动肯定没戏
build
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: regardless of how slim the chance for this to pass, we should help to build
: ground work by contacting members of the house immigration committee and
: someone in the senate who may sponsor this.
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r****e
发帖数: 3109 | 27 good idea.
【在 h**********h 的大作中提到】
: Issa这次步子太大，估计会扯着蛋
: 要取消绿卡抽签，难啊。
: 如果他只是想把抽签绿卡从5万降到4万，
: 拿一万给EB2，我觉得通过的希望就大很大。
: 相当EB2每年多1万spillover给美国学历的。
: 请兄弟们去给他发信说说。
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I******e
发帖数: 6478 | 28 我意思那些没有削减少数国家的名额
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，dream 和 CIR都不等于否定这个原则，区区几万EB就是否定这个原则了？
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I******e
发帖数: 6478 | 29 当然不会吵架，我当然也希望去掉绿卡抽签
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: 其实就是讨论一下，我还真不会吵架。不过你的建议挺好的。
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N*********L
发帖数: 517 | 30 本周末将召开NIU理事例会，欢迎支持这个提案的朋友参加！
NIU理事例会会议at 4:45pm ET Sunday Jan 9, 2011
Dial-in Access Number: 1-712-432-3100
Conference Code : 287715
请注意会议时间为东部时间。
【在 t****1 的大作中提到】
: 唉，八字还没一撇，这里又开始吵上了。每年一百多万新移民进来，7%的国家限制已经
: 保证多样性了。去掉5万，没啥大不了的。原则都是人订出来的，利益都是自己争取来
: 的，还是团结对外吧。希望NIU能提出一个统一的行动计划，这样大家可以集中力量行
: 动。行动了，不一定有戏，不行动肯定没戏。
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I******e
发帖数: 6478 | 31 7%是限制多的
这个是鼓励少的
【在 t****1 的大作中提到】
: 唉，八字还没一撇，这里又开始吵上了。每年一百多万新移民进来，7%的国家限制已经
: 保证多样性了。去掉5万，没啥大不了的。原则都是人订出来的，利益都是自己争取来
: 的，还是团结对外吧。希望NIU能提出一个统一的行动计划，这样大家可以集中力量行
: 动。行动了，不一定有戏，不行动肯定没戏。
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t****1
发帖数: 827 | 32 7%这数字有什么特别科学依据不？为啥不是10%？为啥不是5%？ 还不是当初肯尼迪脑
袋一拍，就出来一个7%。
所以原则都是人制定的，利益都是自己争取的。
【在 I******e 的大作中提到】
: 7%是限制多的
: 这个是鼓励少的
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t****1
发帖数: 827 | 33 那就团结起来行动吧. 行动了，不一定有戏，不行动肯定没戏
【在 I******e 的大作中提到】
: 当然不会吵架，我当然也希望去掉绿卡抽签
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a**n
发帖数: 2431 | 34 I agree. We should not say "oh, this has no hope" and then stop. If we show
such attitude on every single proposal like this, we won't have any progress
in the future. Let's just do sth
build
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: regardless of how slim the chance for this to pass, we should help to build
: ground work by contacting members of the house immigration committee and
: someone in the senate who may sponsor this.
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I******e
发帖数: 6478 | 35 7%又不是我想讨论的。我的意思是因为很多国家的移民少，所以有这个抽签。想砍掉，
比较难。
我又没有反对去争取，去争取，也得想砍的理由是吧，我就是讨论一下而已。
【在 t****1 的大作中提到】
: 7%这数字有什么特别科学依据不？为啥不是10%？为啥不是5%？ 还不是当初肯尼迪脑
: 袋一拍，就出来一个7%。
: 所以原则都是人制定的，利益都是自己争取的。
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I******e
发帖数: 6478 | 36 哎，咋不团结啦？要行动，也得研究下对策吧
【在 t****1 的大作中提到】
: 那就团结起来行动吧. 行动了，不一定有戏，不行动肯定没戏
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N*********L
发帖数: 517 | 37 请支持的朋友发信给NIU商讨行动方案！
c*****[email protected] |
g***l
发帖数: 2753 | 38 HR 43 IH
112th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 43
To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the diversity
immigrant program and to re-allocate those visas to certain employment-based
immigrants who obtain an advanced degree in the United States.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 5, 2011
Mr. ISSA introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee
on the Judiciary
A BILL
To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the diversity
immigrant program and to re-allocate those visas to certain employment-based
immigrants who obtain an advanced degree in the United States.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United
States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. ELIMINATION OF DIVERSITY IMMIGRANT PROGRAM.
(a) Worldwide Level of Diversity Immigrants- Section 201 of the
Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1151) is amended--
(1) in subsection (a)--
(A) by inserting `and' at the end of paragraph (1);
(B) by striking `; and' at the end of paragraph (2) and
inserting a period; and
(C) by striking paragraph (3); and
(2) by striking subsection (e).
(b) Allocation of Diversity Immigrant Visas- Section 203 of such Act (
8 U.S.C. 1153) is amended--
(1) by striking subsection (c);
(2) in subsection (d), by striking `(a), (b), or (c),' and
inserting `(a) or (b),';
(3) in subsection (e), by striking paragraph (2) and
redesignating paragraph (3) as paragraph (2);
(4) in subsection (f), by striking `(a), (b), or (c)' and
inserting `(a) or (b)'; and
(5) in subsection (g), by striking `(a), (b), and (c)' and
inserting `(a) and (b)'.
(c) Procedure for Granting Immigrant Status- Section 204 of such Act (
8 U.S.C. 1154) is amended--
(1) by striking subsection (a)(1)(I); and
(2) in subsection (e), by striking `(a), (b), or (c)' and
inserting `(a) or (b)'.
SEC. 2. VISAS FOR CERTAIN EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS WHO OBTAIN AN ADVANCED
DEGREE IN THE UNITED STATES.
(a) In General- Section 203(b)(2) of the Immigration and Nationality
Act (8 U.S.C. 1153(b)(2)) is amended by adding at the end the following:
`(D) CERTAIN ALIENS OBTAINING ADVANCED DEGREES IN THE
UNITED STATES- Visas shall be made available, in a number not to exceed 55,
000, to qualified immigrants who--
`(i) are a member of a profession holding an
advanced degree obtained within the United States;
`(ii)(I) obtained such degree within the United
States during the 5-year period preceding the date on which the petition
filed under section 204(a)(1)(F) for classification under this subparagraph
is filed; or
`(II) has resided continuously in the United States
in a lawful nonimmigrant status since obtaining such degree; and
`(iii) whose services in the sciences or medicine--
`(I) are sought by an employer in the United
States; and
`(II) will substantially benefit prospectively
the national economy of the United States.'.
(b) Numerical Limitation-
(1) IN GENERAL- Section 201(d) of the Immigration and
Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1151(d)) is amended by adding at the end the
following:
`(3) Aliens described in section 203(b)(2)(D) may be issued visas or
may otherwise acquire the status of an alien lawfully admitted to the United
States for permanent residence in a number not to exceed 55,000 in any
fiscal year.'.
(2) CONFORMING AMENDMENT- Section 201(a)(2) of such Act (8 U.S.C
. 1151(a)(2)) is amended by striking `and not to exceed' and inserting `and,
excluding immigrants described in section 203(b)(2)(D), not to exceed'.
SEC. 3. EFFECTIVE DATE.
The amendments made by this Act shall take effect on October 1, 2011.
END
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【在 S*p 的大作中提到】
: 01/06/2011: House Bill to Remove Immigration Lottery Program and Use the
: Visa Numbers for Certain Employment-Based Immigration Programs
: * Yesterday, Rep. Darrell Issa of California introduced H.R.43 to amend
: the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the diversity immigrant
: program and to re-allocate those visas (50,000) to certain employment-based
: immigrants who obtain an advanced degree in the United States. The bill has
: been referred to the House Judiciary Committee, which will be chaired by Rep
: . Larmar Smith of Texas. House Immigration Subcommittee will be chaired by
: Rep. Steve King of Iowa. The Homeland Security Committee will be chaired by
: another King of New York.
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m******g
发帖数: 3667 | 39 i will dial in......
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 本周末将召开NIU理事例会，欢迎支持这个提案的朋友参加！
: NIU理事例会会议at 4:45pm ET Sunday Jan 9, 2011
: Dial-in Access Number: 1-712-432-3100
: Conference Code : 287715
: 请注意会议时间为东部时间。
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l****o
发帖数: 211 | 40 嗯，请NIU制定出一个计划来，咱一定全力支持！ |
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s******y
发帖数: 435 | 41 支持啊，老大们，他妈的万恶的排期真的和坐监没啥区别，这个提案非常好啊，全世界
搜罗些到美国吃低保的垃圾干嘛啊，还嫌经济不够坏？日！ |
M***u
发帖数: 116 | 42 NIU 能update一下上周末开会讨论这个议案的结果吗？有什么行动计划？需要什么支持
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j****e
发帖数: 198 | |
l********7
发帖数: 1089 | |
Z*R
发帖数: 40 | 45 Co-ask!
where to sign?
【在 l********7 的大作中提到】
: where to sign?
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