T*******t
发帖数: 1069 | 1 还是 先送臀,再转臀. 我觉得送臀比较容易掌握. 转臀总是迟, 发不出力 |
w******8
发帖数: 977 | 2 我以前是先送再转，但只要有送的动作杆面就容易open，容易push或slice，只能靠手
close杆面，一控制不好就会hook.现在我是转臀，感觉杆面更容易square,也不会牺牲
距离。以前我是打draw和hook,现在倾向fade，落地滚动少了，因此牺牲了些距离，但
carry的距离差不多。另外我以前还有个很不好的习惯就是下杆时有时会送左肩膀，几
乎必然导致push or slice.
【在 T*******t 的大作中提到】
: 还是 先送臀,再转臀. 我觉得送臀比较容易掌握. 转臀总是迟, 发不出力
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s****y
发帖数: 251 | 3 边送边转。
【在 T*******t 的大作中提到】
: 还是 先送臀,再转臀. 我觉得送臀比较容易掌握. 转臀总是迟, 发不出力
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 4 恕我无知，送臀相应的英文意思是什么？我琢磨着，再柔软的腰，臀的转动好像只能在
+/-45度之间，怎么能送到前面？
【在 T*******t 的大作中提到】
: 还是 先送臀,再转臀. 我觉得送臀比较容易掌握. 转臀总是迟, 发不出力
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s**n
发帖数: 1412 | 5 我觉得他的意思是重心往前送。我感觉是先转臀再送臀。
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: 恕我无知，送臀相应的英文意思是什么？我琢磨着，再柔软的腰，臀的转动好像只能在
: +/-45度之间，怎么能送到前面？
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w******8
发帖数: 977 | 6 我觉得他指的是"lateral movement of the hip to start the down swing".
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: 恕我无知，送臀相应的英文意思是什么？我琢磨着，再柔软的腰，臀的转动好像只能在
: +/-45度之间，怎么能送到前面？
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 7 That makes sense.
【在 s**n 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得他的意思是重心往前送。我感觉是先转臀再送臀。
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r*******o
发帖数: 30 | 8 For a perfect golf downswing, you must move your hips laterally, and not in
a turning motion.
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: That makes sense.
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 9 其实你已经知道答案。
所有的swing tips 都是参考，没人规定swing 必须用一定的模式完成。若是在range,
各种swing方法都可以试一下。
关键是你swing comfortable 的程度， 和击球的效果。越是 comfortable， 越容易重
复。
每种方法各击10球, 看效果， 自然就有答案了。
【在 T*******t 的大作中提到】
: 还是 先送臀,再转臀. 我觉得送臀比较容易掌握. 转臀总是迟, 发不出力
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t***w
发帖数: 165 | 10 I think to push your hip or or not is not a necessity but maximing the hip-
to-shoulder separation at impact with hip rotation is more important if you
are looking for greater distance.
The lateral movement of the hip helps in creating lag and encourages the "
compress" the ball feel with the iron shots.
【在 T*******t 的大作中提到】
: 还是 先送臀,再转臀. 我觉得送臀比较容易掌握. 转臀总是迟, 发不出力
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 11 perfect golf downswing? who? Tiger Woods? I guess it's the main reason he
can't fix his slice (well, he called it fade.)
in
【在 r*******o 的大作中提到】
: For a perfect golf downswing, you must move your hips laterally, and not in
: a turning motion.
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 12 there is no such thing called 送臀. 送臀 happens for a fragile mentality of
the player, which just means the player doesn't make a full commitment with
his swing.
【在 T*******t 的大作中提到】
: 还是 先送臀,再转臀. 我觉得送臀比较容易掌握. 转臀总是迟, 发不出力
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w******8
发帖数: 977 | 13 Agree.
强力推荐大家看看曾雅妮的swing,比如这个:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNfHyAUzHRE&feature=related
youtube上还有很多。我觉得她的swing很协调并且适合我们学习。
of
with
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: there is no such thing called 送臀. 送臀 happens for a fragile mentality of
: the player, which just means the player doesn't make a full commitment with
: his swing.
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T*******t
发帖数: 1069 | 14 Move forward to make ball-first contact, that is what I mean 送臀
the forward motion allow the hands to get to the ball before the clubhead,
and moves the bottom of the swing arc toward the target so the clubhead
contact the ball before the ground. if there is no forward motion, either I
hit fat or thin.
However, I can not figure out how to combine the move forward motion with
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T*******t
发帖数: 1069 | 15 我只要有送臀的动作,球就打得又直又远, 然后自然地完成转身的动作,但是我一旦想换
成转臀,就乱套了,你是如何换过来的.
【在 w******8 的大作中提到】
: 我以前是先送再转，但只要有送的动作杆面就容易open，容易push或slice，只能靠手
: close杆面，一控制不好就会hook.现在我是转臀，感觉杆面更容易square,也不会牺牲
: 距离。以前我是打draw和hook,现在倾向fade，落地滚动少了，因此牺牲了些距离，但
: carry的距离差不多。另外我以前还有个很不好的习惯就是下杆时有时会送左肩膀，几
: 乎必然导致push or slice.
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w******8
发帖数: 977 | 16 我是因为不稳定才要改的，你既然没问题当然不用改了。对我来说，以前的swing要靠
手控制杆面，经常hook,现在只要手臂贴近身体并在impact时保持手在身体前（原来我
经常会送左肩膀来保证手lead club,导致手在impact时太靠前，就会slice or push)不
用有意识的用手控制杆面，感觉好多了。现在我下杆的想法就是“右手不要太使劲”，
因为只要我有意识的右手使劲，比如想打远点，就很容易hook.不过这说明我的swing有
问题，因为Ben Hogan好像说过他想有两个右手以便能使更大的劲儿。
【在 T*******t 的大作中提到】
: 我只要有送臀的动作,球就打得又直又远, 然后自然地完成转身的动作,但是我一旦想换
: 成转臀,就乱套了,你是如何换过来的.
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T*******t
发帖数: 1069 | 17 我总觉得力气还没有完全使到球上.而且球打不高.看别人的录像,好象主要是扭臀,力气
很大的样子. 至于手,我现在还顾不上考虑. 这个挥杆,真是要一点一点练.
【在 w******8 的大作中提到】
: 我是因为不稳定才要改的，你既然没问题当然不用改了。对我来说，以前的swing要靠
: 手控制杆面，经常hook,现在只要手臂贴近身体并在impact时保持手在身体前（原来我
: 经常会送左肩膀来保证手lead club,导致手在impact时太靠前，就会slice or push)不
: 用有意识的用手控制杆面，感觉好多了。现在我下杆的想法就是“右手不要太使劲”，
: 因为只要我有意识的右手使劲，比如想打远点，就很容易hook.不过这说明我的swing有
: 问题，因为Ben Hogan好像说过他想有两个右手以便能使更大的劲儿。
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k********r
发帖数: 31 | 18 原理就是这么个简单：一部分动力由身体旋转，一部分由重心转移提供。所以理论上应
该是既送臀又转臀。由于old school的挥杆想把球打高，重心在旋转完毕还比较靠后面
，身体成反弓型，转臀多一些。new school的挥杆对身体伤害小，先重心转移同时身体
旋转，所以两者同时进行。要看个人的身体素质和挥杆的风格，盲目追求是没用的，要
打出适合自己身体的swing, 只要结果能控制球的飞行就行，怎么做到的，为什么别人
用别的办法做到的，管他呢！ |
M*****e
发帖数: 568 | 19
typical sequence: shift, rotate, swing
这个我被教练强调过无数次了，但是能不能做到是另外一回事。呵呵
只有移动了重心你才能在正确setup的前提下，打出正确的divot。
当然打golf，错上加错仍然有可能打出好球。
【在 T*******t 的大作中提到】
: 还是 先送臀,再转臀. 我觉得送臀比较容易掌握. 转臀总是迟, 发不出力
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N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 20 shift是指啥？
【在 M*****e 的大作中提到】
:
: typical sequence: shift, rotate, swing
: 这个我被教练强调过无数次了，但是能不能做到是另外一回事。呵呵
: 只有移动了重心你才能在正确setup的前提下，打出正确的divot。
: 当然打golf，错上加错仍然有可能打出好球。
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M*****e
发帖数: 568 | 21
shift weight，上面说的送臀
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: shift是指啥？
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i*******g
发帖数: 9 | 22 我教练叫我的是上杆到顶点后，先是右脚内侧蹬地把重心移到左腿，然后接着转臀。
【在 T*******t 的大作中提到】
: 还是 先送臀,再转臀. 我觉得送臀比较容易掌握. 转臀总是迟, 发不出力
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 23 ur coach complicated the concept. for a natural hip rotation, your right
foot has to do something.
shift weight? I don't agree. shift weight happens when you do your follow-
through.
otherwise, it's hard to stay your-head behind the ball, and make quick
rotation of your wrist.
You can't do what I say, you will slice your ball a lot. like Tiger. lol..
【在 i*******g 的大作中提到】
: 我教练叫我的是上杆到顶点后，先是右脚内侧蹬地把重心移到左腿，然后接着转臀。
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 24 I watched your swing video before and it looked very good. You probably didn
't realize your weight was already shifted to your left side at impact. You
did not make a very big lateral move forward (送臀）as I recall. Below is a
link of an article about the swing weight transfer：
http://www.cureaslice.com/golf-weight-transfer-drill.php
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: ur coach complicated the concept. for a natural hip rotation, your right
: foot has to do something.
: shift weight? I don't agree. shift weight happens when you do your follow-
: through.
: otherwise, it's hard to stay your-head behind the ball, and make quick
: rotation of your wrist.
: You can't do what I say, you will slice your ball a lot. like Tiger. lol..
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N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 25 I agree with you.
Can't believe anyone can rotate before shift weight from the right side to
the left.
didn
You
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【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: I watched your swing video before and it looked very good. You probably didn
: 't realize your weight was already shifted to your left side at impact. You
: did not make a very big lateral move forward (送臀）as I recall. Below is a
: link of an article about the swing weight transfer：
: http://www.cureaslice.com/golf-weight-transfer-drill.php
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 26 I usually don't shift my weight when pitching and chipping.
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: I agree with you.
: Can't believe anyone can rotate before shift weight from the right side to
: the left.
:
: didn
: You
: a
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N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 27 that's a different story
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: I usually don't shift my weight when pitching and chipping.
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 28 I have done sth doesn't mean it's sth I should have done, or might be just
something I don't have time to fix.
Because I am still not good enough to make perfect things - well, if it
exists.
Personally, I don't like the idea to think about "IF I need to shift my
weight to left while initating my downswing". but I am quite sure what
happened IF you think you should laterally shift your weight, then blah..
blah..
I learnt the game by reading Tiger woods' book, and a lot of videos of him.
HIs upright body position of finishing position ingrained into my memory. I
think it's same for many people. How about your weight is still on your
right foot (for not lefty), how about even you retreat one step back when
you finished your swing?
From a lot of modern swing theory, people will see it could be terribly
wrong. I don't think it's necessary to be wrong.
The key point is if you have enough time for your upper body to catch up if
you do your lateral movement. If people do the lateral movement, it's much
harder for the upper body to catch up. it will leave the wrist on open
position right the moment of contact.
for less-experienced golfers, it's quite often to see low-body over-raced
the upper body .
good or bad, it's my personal advice.
didn
You
a
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: I watched your swing video before and it looked very good. You probably didn
: 't realize your weight was already shifted to your left side at impact. You
: did not make a very big lateral move forward (送臀）as I recall. Below is a
: link of an article about the swing weight transfer：
: http://www.cureaslice.com/golf-weight-transfer-drill.php
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 29 Talking of Tiger Woods and his swing, Jim McLean wrote a book called 'The
Slot Swing" about three basic swing shapes and many backswing planes but
there is just a slot ending up all kinds of swings in it. He states Tiger
Woods' "single plane swing" is very difficult to learn and duplicate, which
is to say, even Tiger himself couldn't duplicate his swing at times. LOL.
.
I
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: I have done sth doesn't mean it's sth I should have done, or might be just
: something I don't have time to fix.
: Because I am still not good enough to make perfect things - well, if it
: exists.
: Personally, I don't like the idea to think about "IF I need to shift my
: weight to left while initating my downswing". but I am quite sure what
: happened IF you think you should laterally shift your weight, then blah..
: blah..
: I learnt the game by reading Tiger woods' book, and a lot of videos of him.
: HIs upright body position of finishing position ingrained into my memory. I
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a***x
发帖数: 398 | 30 送臀英文叫Slide，是要避免的。 转臀是对的， 注意你的皮带扣， 从开始downswing
到击球的时刻， 皮带扣应该从右到左转过90度。 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 31 i kinda agree with you.
i want to mark this one.
can anyone comfirm that it is a good tip?
i dont want to mark misleading tips.
downswing
【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: 送臀英文叫Slide，是要避免的。 转臀是对的， 注意你的皮带扣， 从开始downswing
: 到击球的时刻， 皮带扣应该从右到左转过90度。
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