f*t
发帖数: 382 | 1 I am working on the new swing I just learned from an instructor. The key
thing is fully load the right side before down swing.
Man, immediately, I am 20 yard longs on each club!
Played the first round on course with the new swing last Saturday. Score was
terrible, 92, which is way beyound my normal scores. I lost several balls
due to bad shots. The ball travelled higher and longer, the wind played a
much bigger role.
But acctually, I am very happy instead. 400 yard par 4's become driver and
wedge, short 500 yard par 5's can be reached in 2 easily.
To my surprise, I watched the PGA game, those pros use 3 woods for 450+ par
4s and approching with short iron after drive. they use 8 iron for 185 par
3s. 苍天呀！ | g******s
发帖数: 211 | 2 The new is really exciting. Can you measure the club head speed, say
compare with the old? | f*t
发帖数: 382 | 3 For driver, my driving average was 250, now it's 270. the longer ones reach
290. My swing speed is from 110 to 118. I can not hit sweet spot
consistantly.
for 7 iron, was 150, now 165
For Gap Wedge, was 105, now 115
I am still working on the swing and consistency, my max distance for each
club is higher on the range.
I played a flat 410 par 4 Saturday. One or two clubs against wind. My driver
hooked to the left but still went 260. with 175 left to the pin. I used my
5 iron, the ball went high against wind and dropped to 3 feet to the pin.
Birdied the hole.
485 short par 5. One or two clubs down wind. Drove 290 left side of fairway
with 185 left. 5 iron to pin high but left. Short game betrayed me (or I
shall say normal), end up 1 chip 2 putts par.
420 par 4 side wind, drove 290 mid of fairway. pitching wedge 135 to the
green with 15 feet over. two putts par.
Those were highlights, lowlights were intention to missing left, 2 balls in
water, 1 ball OB (oh, baby) all left misses. several times missed the ball
badly. missing left was caused from the way I used to swag the club, I am
working on that.
An instructor and video analysis is helpful. For example, we can not
identify what the difference between a proper weight transfer/load or a swag
/sway.
Actually, I went through several instructors and I think I find the right
one who fits my swing style. The results are most promising. | v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 4 Wow！Driving like pros. I take my hat off to you. Sooner or later, you will
be a scratch player.
reach
driver
my
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: For driver, my driving average was 250, now it's 270. the longer ones reach
: 290. My swing speed is from 110 to 118. I can not hit sweet spot
: consistantly.
: for 7 iron, was 150, now 165
: For Gap Wedge, was 105, now 115
: I am still working on the swing and consistency, my max distance for each
: club is higher on the range.
: I played a flat 410 par 4 Saturday. One or two clubs against wind. My driver
: hooked to the left but still went 260. with 175 left to the pin. I used my
: 5 iron, the ball went high against wind and dropped to 3 feet to the pin.
| f*t
发帖数: 382 | 5 it's still a long way to go. I am not think about that yet. But in my deep
deep mind, I may have that goal:).
My distance is up and my accuracy is down. My scores are higher now.
But ancutally, I feel with the new swing, I can be more consistent
eventually because there is less compensations and it's a overall smoother
swing.
As a long hitter, sorry for I state that. I have better scores on the longer
holes. I think for the amature courses, the longer holes are intended to
more forgiving, wider fairways and bigger green.
With my new swing, I am not sure what the score I will have in some short,
narrow, tree lined courses. | A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 6 nice!
longer
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: it's still a long way to go. I am not think about that yet. But in my deep
: deep mind, I may have that goal:).
: My distance is up and my accuracy is down. My scores are higher now.
: But ancutally, I feel with the new swing, I can be more consistent
: eventually because there is less compensations and it's a overall smoother
: swing.
: As a long hitter, sorry for I state that. I have better scores on the longer
: holes. I think for the amature courses, the longer holes are intended to
: more forgiving, wider fairways and bigger green.
: With my new swing, I am not sure what the score I will have in some short,
| a***x
发帖数: 398 | 7 赞楼主的身体素质。 fully load right side 这个打法我试过一段，但玩不转。这个
打法对 hip turn，weight shifting和hand arm 的timing要求高，对hip turn的速度
要求高。 我打的时候，hand arm always out race body, resulting a hook. 为了矫
正，我就在downswing 到顶时，有意先weight shift left，hip turn， 让arm
shoulder 等一下，结果是 hip open too much at impact, sliced ball.练了一段时
间稳定不下来，就放弃了。偶尔打好的时候，driver 确实又远又高，我想因为是
driver要ascending，可以容忍一定的身体重心滞后吧。 羡慕ing. | v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 8 browsed DVR recording last night, petersen use 8iron for 185 par3, it is 160
-170 to front green, which is standard 8iron carry of many tour pros. with
gained distance, you probably can play 180 par3 with 8iron too. | f*t
发帖数: 382 | 9 you are on the right track actually and your comments are exactly right.
My key point now is slow down to full load the right side, then hip shift
left while hand and club drops natually down and form a bigger wrist hinge.
Then turn to finish the swing.
It seems a lot of steps. But on range or course, I foucs on the proper back
swing to load and put clubs in the right position, then everything from
there shall happens naturally from foot and up.
If you arm is too active as I used to be, then you hook the ball. that's
what I am fighting now. quiet down arms.
BTW, there is no hand arm timing required. un-hinge shall happen natually
with out intervention.
【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: 赞楼主的身体素质。 fully load right side 这个打法我试过一段，但玩不转。这个
: 打法对 hip turn，weight shifting和hand arm 的timing要求高，对hip turn的速度
: 要求高。 我打的时候，hand arm always out race body, resulting a hook. 为了矫
: 正，我就在downswing 到顶时，有意先weight shift left，hip turn， 让arm
: shoulder 等一下，结果是 hip open too much at impact, sliced ball.练了一段时
: 间稳定不下来，就放弃了。偶尔打好的时候，driver 确实又远又高，我想因为是
: driver要ascending，可以容忍一定的身体重心滞后吧。 羡慕ing.
| p****4
发帖数: 517 | 10 赞.
If you can load up fully and still hit the ball, you are pretty good. | | | g******s
发帖数: 211 | 11 Full swing is more applicable to driver, which is more forgiven with its
huge sweet spot. For irons, distance control and accuracy is more important.
【在 p****4 的大作中提到】
: 赞.
: If you can load up fully and still hit the ball, you are pretty good.
| f*t
发帖数: 382 | 12 haha, you are right, Sometimes I DON'T hit the ball.
load fully do not means fast tempo or quick. Try to feel relaxed, fully
extended, slowly and balanced. Please refer to bubba's tempo. He is not
rushing at all.
【在 p****4 的大作中提到】
: 赞.
: If you can load up fully and still hit the ball, you are pretty good.
| f*t
发帖数: 382 | 13 you are right, distance control and accuracy of a iron play comes from a
proper swing sequence.A fully loaded swing is not a full maxout swing which
always trouble making to amatures. We normally do not know whatand how to
max out while our swing is fragile and not solid.
important.
【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: Full swing is more applicable to driver, which is more forgiven with its
: huge sweet spot. For irons, distance control and accuracy is more important.
:
| v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 14 Learning full swings on all our clubs will help control distances with our
shots and we don't have to have a full swing for all the shots in the game.
For most people, a full swing means to max out distance on a club, and for
some others, it doesn't.
important.
【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: Full swing is more applicable to driver, which is more forgiven with its
: huge sweet spot. For irons, distance control and accuracy is more important.
:
| D****V
发帖数: 461 | 15 "让arm
I guess i am having this issue now! the ball always flys high, straight for
a short distance then curves to the right. very frustrating. how did you fix
it? | a***x
发帖数: 398 | 16 如果你打的是fit说的fully load right side，可能问问他比较合适。我想可能要根据
身体状况找到一个lower body turn，weight shift和shoulder+arm swing的时间配合
。另外一个小补丁就是， 占位的时候右脚后撤一点，close 占位。
我现在打的是80% body coil back and full body release forward.感觉距离还好，
关键是打出去的球可控，predictable。 | f*t
发帖数: 382 | 17 每个人的身体情况和对swing的感觉是不同的。
对我来说，我在swing中不考虑“lower body turn，weight shift和shoulder+arm
swing的时间配合”问题，I am more a one piece swing. make sure back swing is
great and reach the top at the right position, then start by lower body to
finish the swing. I think you can think about keep your arms shoulder
triangle stable and your hand is alway with your body. relax, slow and
extended.
Practic, think, seek instruction, practic. eventually your score will be
lower.
My instructor said I have a good eye hand coordination. Practice will make
it natual.
【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: 如果你打的是fit说的fully load right side，可能问问他比较合适。我想可能要根据
: 身体状况找到一个lower body turn，weight shift和shoulder+arm swing的时间配合
: 。另外一个小补丁就是， 占位的时候右脚后撤一点，close 占位。
: 我现在打的是80% body coil back and full body release forward.感觉距离还好，
: 关键是打出去的球可控，predictable。
| a***x
发帖数: 398 | 18 eye,body,hand ordination 是整个golf的根本，有人天生好，有人靠练出来。越练就
能越接近自身的最优点。参考Bubba的Swing， Jim的Swing，Couples的Swing，都不拘
小节，好多地方和大部分教练讲的有矛盾，但无所谓，对他是最合适的就好了。 | k*******8
发帖数: 37 | 19 any slow motion of your new swing, I want to take a look and I am also
looking for a swing coach to fix my own swing.
was
par
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: I am working on the new swing I just learned from an instructor. The key
: thing is fully load the right side before down swing.
: Man, immediately, I am 20 yard longs on each club!
: Played the first round on course with the new swing last Saturday. Score was
: terrible, 92, which is way beyound my normal scores. I lost several balls
: due to bad shots. The ball travelled higher and longer, the wind played a
: much bigger role.
: But acctually, I am very happy instead. 400 yard par 4's become driver and
: wedge, short 500 yard par 5's can be reached in 2 easily.
: To my surprise, I watched the PGA game, those pros use 3 woods for 450+ par
| v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 20 这话讲的有道理。 教得好往往自己打不了职业才去教别人打球，打得好未必能够教别
人打球。好的高球手知道怎样利用自己特长，优势去打球，这样赢得可能就大。
【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: eye,body,hand ordination 是整个golf的根本，有人天生好，有人靠练出来。越练就
: 能越接近自身的最优点。参考Bubba的Swing， Jim的Swing，Couples的Swing，都不拘
: 小节，好多地方和大部分教练讲的有矛盾，但无所谓，对他是最合适的就好了。
| | | f*t
发帖数: 382 | 21 No, I do not have those swing video. It's all in computer of the training
shop.
Maybe I shall ask for that next time.
【在 k*******8 的大作中提到】
: any slow motion of your new swing, I want to take a look and I am also
: looking for a swing coach to fix my own swing.
:
: was
: par
| f*t
发帖数: 382 | 22 I agree. There are some good instructors can provide instruction based on
your current level and you natural ability. Some others do not care about
that which may ends up you will get worse and confused after instruction.
if a swing do not fit you, it will take you more effort to master it and it
is painful too.
【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: eye,body,hand ordination 是整个golf的根本，有人天生好，有人靠练出来。越练就
: 能越接近自身的最优点。参考Bubba的Swing， Jim的Swing，Couples的Swing，都不拘
: 小节，好多地方和大部分教练讲的有矛盾，但无所谓，对他是最合适的就好了。
| v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 23 Still drive the ball 270 yards plus? It's amazing.
reach
driver
my
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: For driver, my driving average was 250, now it's 270. the longer ones reach
: 290. My swing speed is from 110 to 118. I can not hit sweet spot
: consistantly.
: for 7 iron, was 150, now 165
: For Gap Wedge, was 105, now 115
: I am still working on the swing and consistency, my max distance for each
: club is higher on the range.
: I played a flat 410 par 4 Saturday. One or two clubs against wind. My driver
: hooked to the left but still went 260. with 175 left to the pin. I used my
: 5 iron, the ball went high against wind and dropped to 3 feet to the pin.
| g******s
发帖数: 211 | 24 What is your driver specs (stiffness, launch angle)?
My driver is regular shaft with 10.5 degree. It works fine with my swing
around 95s mph. Now my swing increased another 10mph, around 105s, I wonder
if it is time to shopping for a new driver.
reach
driver
my
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: For driver, my driving average was 250, now it's 270. the longer ones reach
: 290. My swing speed is from 110 to 118. I can not hit sweet spot
: consistantly.
: for 7 iron, was 150, now 165
: For Gap Wedge, was 105, now 115
: I am still working on the swing and consistency, my max distance for each
: club is higher on the range.
: I played a flat 410 par 4 Saturday. One or two clubs against wind. My driver
: hooked to the left but still went 260. with 175 left to the pin. I used my
: 5 iron, the ball went high against wind and dropped to 3 feet to the pin.
| f*t
发帖数: 382 | 25 I am using a tour burner, 9.5 degree and stiff.
I never had a problem to launch the ball high, my problem is to lower the
launch angle for all my clubs.
wonder
【在 g******s 的大作中提到】
: What is your driver specs (stiffness, launch angle)?
: My driver is regular shaft with 10.5 degree. It works fine with my swing
: around 95s mph. Now my swing increased another 10mph, around 105s, I wonder
: if it is time to shopping for a new driver.
:
: reach
: driver
: my
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 26 driving average 270 is damn impressive, as luke donald does so.
270 yard drive will enable golfer drive a lot green, for short par4 with
yardage sign anywhere from 270-320 (dogleg).
3wood should go to 250-260, this means 530 yard par5 in 2 is a possiblity,
with dogleg, 550-560 par5 in 2 is possible too.
270+ occassionally would make me happy already.
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: Still drive the ball 270 yards plus? It's amazing.
:
: reach
: driver
: my
| f*t
发帖数: 382 | 27 Guys, my 270 driving average is counting driver only.
For tour players, it counts all tee shots.
For luke, I think his driver driving average is 290~300.
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: driving average 270 is damn impressive, as luke donald does so.
: 270 yard drive will enable golfer drive a lot green, for short par4 with
: yardage sign anywhere from 270-320 (dogleg).
: 3wood should go to 250-260, this means 530 yard par5 in 2 is a possiblity,
: with dogleg, 550-560 par5 in 2 is possible too.
: 270+ occassionally would make me happy already.
| v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 28 I play weekly, average driving distance about 240 yards combined with my
driver and 3W. I always hit the ball longer off certain tees at certain
courses, 260, 270, 280 yards. Some of them I already figured out why, and
the others I can’t. I know from experience, a long straight driving will
help me get a par for a par 4, especially for a long par 4. I don’t get a
birdie in every round I play, but I have pars. For the last two rounds I
didn’t have a birdie, I had 9 and 10 pars respectively
Besides, I have changed my strategy for all par 5s: forget about eagle and
birdie chances, take easy and get the ball on the green within three shots.
I don’t have to hit the ball very hard on my second shot, and leave a third
shot 100 yards or less to green, so I can hit the third one with my
favorite sand wedge. I’ve already got positive results from the last three
or four rounds.
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: driving average 270 is damn impressive, as luke donald does so.
: 270 yard drive will enable golfer drive a lot green, for short par4 with
: yardage sign anywhere from 270-320 (dogleg).
: 3wood should go to 250-260, this means 530 yard par5 in 2 is a possiblity,
: with dogleg, 550-560 par5 in 2 is possible too.
: 270+ occassionally would make me happy already.
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 29 each golfer will have to find his best style after a while.i sometimes try
both agressive and conservative. sometimes agressive works, sometimes
conversative works.
i totally agree with your strategy about par5. recently i did twice manage
to get to green side rough on short par5, one is 505 or so with 3wood,
another is 476 or so with 6iron. each time i was excited about my first
birdie chance on par5. but it turned out both times, the pitch/chip from
green side rough were tough, either because of downslope roll too far or
tough lie or angle. one ended 3 putt bogey, another ended par.
another 550 or par5, just like you said hit longer on certain holes, hit my
longest drove of year, 290+, but into bunker, i was thinking 3wood, but didn
't get over the lip, messed up, one ill-advised shot lead to another.pro made bunker shot look easy, actually, i found it was extremely difficult.
after driving into lateral hazard a few times one round, another round i
tried to tee off with long iron and 3wood (which is considered conservative)
, but actually it didn't work out as well as i expect. definitely 3i, 4i, 3wood are the weakest clubs in my bag. i know this, but sometimes i want to practise them on course. otherwise they never get used.
i did get my first par at local muni's signature island green par4, by
playing conservative teeing off with 5iron. i guess it depends on swing form
of each club, depends on experience playing certain hole, and luck.
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: I play weekly, average driving distance about 240 yards combined with my
: driver and 3W. I always hit the ball longer off certain tees at certain
: courses, 260, 270, 280 yards. Some of them I already figured out why, and
: the others I can’t. I know from experience, a long straight driving will
: help me get a par for a par 4, especially for a long par 4. I don’t get a
: birdie in every round I play, but I have pars. For the last two rounds I
: didn’t have a birdie, I had 9 and 10 pars respectively
: Besides, I have changed my strategy for all par 5s: forget about eagle and
: birdie chances, take easy and get the ball on the green within three shots.
: I don’t have to hit the ball very hard on my second shot, and leave a third
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 30 you are single digit, ur swing is more consistent, thus ur diving distance
is less volatile, average closer to ur potential. for higher digit golfer,
270 and 270+ need some help from God:)
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: Guys, my 270 driving average is counting driver only.
: For tour players, it counts all tee shots.
: For luke, I think his driver driving average is 290~300.
| | | v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 31 how do you guys keep driving average?
on course play, we are focused on approach distance, i rarely check driving
distance using iphone. only after round when i keep score at computer, i
start to check driving distance using google map based golf gps. i know my
average driving is lower than what computer computes, since i tend to keep
good drive more (because they are easier to remember).
.
third
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: I play weekly, average driving distance about 240 yards combined with my
: driver and 3W. I always hit the ball longer off certain tees at certain
: courses, 260, 270, 280 yards. Some of them I already figured out why, and
: the others I can’t. I know from experience, a long straight driving will
: help me get a par for a par 4, especially for a long par 4. I don’t get a
: birdie in every round I play, but I have pars. For the last two rounds I
: didn’t have a birdie, I had 9 and 10 pars respectively
: Besides, I have changed my strategy for all par 5s: forget about eagle and
: birdie chances, take easy and get the ball on the green within three shots.
: I don’t have to hit the ball very hard on my second shot, and leave a third
| v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 32 I always check a tee box position vs. the blue stones at tee off and figure
out the distance and what club I should use. Before the second shot, I check
the ball position to the landmarks and do simple math for the distance I
already drive and about to hit for next. I use a score card holder with a note book to write down distances I hit and mark them as good or bad, averaging them
after the round. My driving range in the game is from 210 to 270 yards.
driving
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: how do you guys keep driving average?
: on course play, we are focused on approach distance, i rarely check driving
: distance using iphone. only after round when i keep score at computer, i
: start to check driving distance using google map based golf gps. i know my
: average driving is lower than what computer computes, since i tend to keep
: good drive more (because they are easier to remember).
:
: .
: third
| f*t
发帖数: 382 | 33 I use Skycaddie SGX. it can track your driving distance but you need to mark
you ball position at tee and then at your ball. it is not too bad.
I also use lasor range finder at the same time. GPS is great for course management and lasor will give you exact distance to pin even normally I can not hit to it. GPS will help on tee shots and when you approch to green, you know the front and back of the green which very helpful for club selection.
Now you guys know i am a 器材派。I focus more on camera than photograph.
driving
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: how do you guys keep driving average?
: on course play, we are focused on approach distance, i rarely check driving
: distance using iphone. only after round when i keep score at computer, i
: start to check driving distance using google map based golf gps. i know my
: average driving is lower than what computer computes, since i tend to keep
: good drive more (because they are easier to remember).
:
: .
: third
| g******s
发帖数: 211 | 34 I like to use equipment too, but mostly on distance to pin.
As for driving distance, Frank's mark based estimate is a good idea.
mark
management and lasor will give you exact distance to pin even normally I can
not hit to it. GPS will help on tee shots and when you approch to green,
you know the front and back of the green which very helpful for club
selection.
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: I use Skycaddie SGX. it can track your driving distance but you need to mark
: you ball position at tee and then at your ball. it is not too bad.
: I also use lasor range finder at the same time. GPS is great for course management and lasor will give you exact distance to pin even normally I can not hit to it. GPS will help on tee shots and when you approch to green, you know the front and back of the green which very helpful for club selection.
: Now you guys know i am a 器材派。I focus more on camera than photograph.
:
: driving
| v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 35 I agree to you long irons are so hard to hit well for most weekend’s
golfers like you and me. For a few months, I did well with my long irons
when I had trouble hitting my driver. With my improving driving, I started
using long irons less and less. For any par 4s within 400 yards, I use 9i or
shorter ones for most of my second shots. For a long par 4, most likely I
will use 3W or 3H for the green approach.
As for any fairway bunker shots, my goal is to get the ball out of bunkers.
Wedges, short irons and hybrid are easy to get the ball out of bunkers, and
3W difficult. I had some good experience for fairway bunker saves with my 3W
and double or triple bad as well. Below is what I went through for bunker
saves from the Sunday’s game:
Hole 10, 515 yds, par 5: drove the ball to RFB of 18th hole; 3W, 80 yds
to a deep RFB; 3H less than 150 yds, 120 yds to GRN; ... bogey.
Hole 15, 496 yds, par 5, drove the ball to RFB, 270 yds to GRN; 3H, 190 yds
to another RFB, 75 yds to GRN; SW, 30 ft to pin, par.
my
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: each golfer will have to find his best style after a while.i sometimes try
: both agressive and conservative. sometimes agressive works, sometimes
: conversative works.
: i totally agree with your strategy about par5. recently i did twice manage
: to get to green side rough on short par5, one is 505 or so with 3wood,
: another is 476 or so with 6iron. each time i was excited about my first
: birdie chance on par5. but it turned out both times, the pitch/chip from
: green side rough were tough, either because of downslope roll too far or
: tough lie or angle. one ended 3 putt bogey, another ended par.
: another 550 or par5, just like you said hit longer on certain holes, hit my
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 36 you are much better at bunker, that's why you score low 80 consistently. 我
不光是用3wood出不了bunker, 就是SW 也不好。我今年没有一个像样的bunker shot.
最近两次三百零几的par4 开球进入front green side bunker, 一次double, 一次
bogey.
今天我输score core, 一个33.3/107 的course front 9 par 34, very few bunkers
and no sand shot , +9 with average 2.1 putts, 可能我9洞最好分数. 没完成18洞
， hole 10-14 不知道是开始随意了，还是swing 稳定性的持续时间还不够长，用4铁
以上开球，结果仍然差， +3， +4。3wood 也是只有50%solid. par5 只剩下230了,结
果地滚. 2nd ball for practice 倒是solid 却打中树枝.
front 9 用6铁开球开球两次还可以， hole 1 360 par4, 6i+ low hook 6i out of
woods, bogey; hole 5 320 par4, straight 6i + SW, par.
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: I agree to you long irons are so hard to hit well for most weekend’s
: golfers like you and me. For a few months, I did well with my long irons
: when I had trouble hitting my driver. With my improving driving, I started
: using long irons less and less. For any par 4s within 400 yards, I use 9i or
: shorter ones for most of my second shots. For a long par 4, most likely I
: will use 3W or 3H for the green approach.
: As for any fairway bunker shots, my goal is to get the ball out of bunkers.
: Wedges, short irons and hybrid are easy to get the ball out of bunkers, and
: 3W difficult. I had some good experience for fairway bunker saves with my 3W
: and double or triple bad as well. Below is what I went through for bunker
| f*t
发帖数: 382 | 37 To me bunker shot is a easier shot if you do it right. Open the club face,
hinge the wrist, hit behind the ball, use club bounce to pop the club and
ball out. It more forgiving than some other types of shots.
Set you expectation right, you just need to get the ball out to green from a
green side bunker. that's not tough. If you expect you can save a up and
down from bunker, that's not easy. Accept a bogey and it's not a bad score
at all.
with that expectation in mind, accutally I have a decent bunker save rate.
bunkers
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: you are much better at bunker, that's why you score low 80 consistently. 我
: 不光是用3wood出不了bunker, 就是SW 也不好。我今年没有一个像样的bunker shot.
: 最近两次三百零几的par4 开球进入front green side bunker, 一次double, 一次
: bogey.
: 今天我输score core, 一个33.3/107 的course front 9 par 34, very few bunkers
: and no sand shot , +9 with average 2.1 putts, 可能我9洞最好分数. 没完成18洞
: ， hole 10-14 不知道是开始随意了，还是swing 稳定性的持续时间还不够长，用4铁
: 以上开球，结果仍然差， +3， +4。3wood 也是只有50%solid. par5 只剩下230了,结
: 果地滚. 2nd ball for practice 倒是solid 却打中树枝.
: front 9 用6铁开球开球两次还可以， hole 1 360 par4, 6i+ low hook 6i out of
| v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 38 至少有两年以上没有用铁杆开过四杆五杆洞的球。我6铁现在最多只能让球飞160码，加
上滚也不超过170码，明显是处于劣势。
三百左右的四杆洞，我是尽量想办法开球不要离果岭太近，避免球进沙坑。一般短Par4
，果岭前侧方会有沙坑，进去了，保帕就难了。
bunkers
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: you are much better at bunker, that's why you score low 80 consistently. 我
: 不光是用3wood出不了bunker, 就是SW 也不好。我今年没有一个像样的bunker shot.
: 最近两次三百零几的par4 开球进入front green side bunker, 一次double, 一次
: bogey.
: 今天我输score core, 一个33.3/107 的course front 9 par 34, very few bunkers
: and no sand shot , +9 with average 2.1 putts, 可能我9洞最好分数. 没完成18洞
: ， hole 10-14 不知道是开始随意了，还是swing 稳定性的持续时间还不够长，用4铁
: 以上开球，结果仍然差， +3， +4。3wood 也是只有50%solid. par5 只剩下230了,结
: 果地滚. 2nd ball for practice 倒是solid 却打中树枝.
: front 9 用6铁开球开球两次还可以， hole 1 360 par4, 6i+ low hook 6i out of
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 39 one golfing friend of mine is 器材派 too, loads with top end equipment and
gadgets, has a swing coach.
very nice and generous, hard core golf nut for sure.
mark
management and lasor will give you exact distance to pin even normally I can
not hit to it. GPS will help on tee shots and when you approch to green,
you know the front and back of the green which very helpful for club
selection.
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: I use Skycaddie SGX. it can track your driving distance but you need to mark
: you ball position at tee and then at your ball. it is not too bad.
: I also use lasor range finder at the same time. GPS is great for course management and lasor will give you exact distance to pin even normally I can not hit to it. GPS will help on tee shots and when you approch to green, you know the front and back of the green which very helpful for club selection.
: Now you guys know i am a 器材派。I focus more on camera than photograph.
:
: driving
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 40 thanks for good tips! Friday played a round, very slow pace. but i realized
slow pace is not always a bad thing, for i can drop some balls into bunker
for more reps while waiting.
a
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: To me bunker shot is a easier shot if you do it right. Open the club face,
: hinge the wrist, hit behind the ball, use club bounce to pop the club and
: ball out. It more forgiving than some other types of shots.
: Set you expectation right, you just need to get the ball out to green from a
: green side bunker. that's not tough. If you expect you can save a up and
: down from bunker, that's not easy. Accept a bogey and it's not a bad score
: at all.
: with that expectation in mind, accutally I have a decent bunker save rate.
:
: bunkers
| | | v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 41 周五hole 1 300y par 4 顺风又地势下降, wide open fairway。 driver 开了一个甭
直， front green side rough, 差1尺 进 green side bunker, SW chip to 3 ft,
birdie. 所以有时高球是看运气. 我把我的60度搞丢了.那轮全用SW chip/pitch, 结果
3 up &down. 我还没有用LW 一轮拿这么多up& down 过.
hole 18 348y par 4, 球道右边是水塘, 因为我driver经常有fade/slice 的趋向,我准
备6铁开. 朋友先开，开了直又远，可能触动了我long drive 的念头,我换成driver,
结果waterloo. retee 6i, split fairway, 120 y to green. 之前好几个洞6i开也不
错. 另外一个好处是 碰到190 - 200 的approach 或par 3 时, 就很容易派上用场. 6
铁开球不久一个470 y par5, 195 yard approach, 6铁打了个low shot underneath
tree branch, 结果bounce & roll over green by 20 yards.
铁杆远估计是我的一个优势.6铁solid 一般将近180- 190 的carry, 所以tee to green
350 以下,我都可以 wedge for second. 铁杆我max out potential 的概率还是很高
, 特别是6铁以下.5i- 3i, 3w, driver max out potential 要看运气了. 我看tiger 也是爱
铁杆开球. 铁杆开球的另外一个好处是,当你被out driven, 感觉好些比你用driver.
这个月打球多,我发现需要提高的:
1)special shot: bunker, uneven lies
2)18 hole round 我经常有1-2 个洞lost swing considerably. 去掉3-4 洞,我的
handicp 可以立马的drop 10. 这个问题解决了, 提高估计是最大的.
Par4
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: 至少有两年以上没有用铁杆开过四杆五杆洞的球。我6铁现在最多只能让球飞160码，加
: 上滚也不超过170码，明显是处于劣势。
: 三百左右的四杆洞，我是尽量想办法开球不要离果岭太近，避免球进沙坑。一般短Par4
: ，果岭前侧方会有沙坑，进去了，保帕就难了。
:
: bunkers
| ET
发帖数: 10701 | 42 看电视上你感受不到风的影响。
我不知道其它州，在texas顺风的时候少用1－2个club是比较常见的，尤其是击球比较
solid的时候。
was
par
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: I am working on the new swing I just learned from an instructor. The key
: thing is fully load the right side before down swing.
: Man, immediately, I am 20 yard longs on each club!
: Played the first round on course with the new swing last Saturday. Score was
: terrible, 92, which is way beyound my normal scores. I lost several balls
: due to bad shots. The ball travelled higher and longer, the wind played a
: much bigger role.
: But acctually, I am very happy instead. 400 yard par 4's become driver and
: wedge, short 500 yard par 5's can be reached in 2 easily.
: To my surprise, I watched the PGA game, those pros use 3 woods for 450+ par
| v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 43 你的总结很有道理，我们这些业余的，不可能每次每杆都能打的好，一场球，不算推杆
， 打不好的次数要是少于10次，就很好了。所以短打，救球，对于我们来说太重要了。
6
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: 周五hole 1 300y par 4 顺风又地势下降, wide open fairway。 driver 开了一个甭
: 直， front green side rough, 差1尺 进 green side bunker, SW chip to 3 ft,
: birdie. 所以有时高球是看运气. 我把我的60度搞丢了.那轮全用SW chip/pitch, 结果
: 3 up &down. 我还没有用LW 一轮拿这么多up& down 过.
: hole 18 348y par 4, 球道右边是水塘, 因为我driver经常有fade/slice 的趋向,我准
: 备6铁开. 朋友先开，开了直又远，可能触动了我long drive 的念头,我换成driver,
: 结果waterloo. retee 6i, split fairway, 120 y to green. 之前好几个洞6i开也不
: 错. 另外一个好处是 碰到190 - 200 的approach 或par 3 时, 就很容易派上用场. 6
: 铁开球不久一个470 y par5, 195 yard approach, 6铁打了个low shot underneath
: tree branch, 结果bounce & roll over green by 20 yards.
| f*t
发帖数: 382 | 44 如果顺风少两杆，那顶风加几杆呢？是要正常击球还是要knock down呢？
我每次顶风就打得烂，tee shot就开始紧张。not feel comfertable.
还是顺风球好打啊。
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: 看电视上你感受不到风的影响。
: 我不知道其它州，在texas顺风的时候少用1－2个club是比较常见的，尤其是击球比较
: solid的时候。
:
: was
: par
| ET
发帖数: 10701 | 45 顶风当然取决与风。
对一般自然风和日丽的时候，基本正常球杆。
我一般不需要knock down， 因为我的球本来就低。
我见很多年轻人都不减低。
对于tee shot， 如果是风比较大， 对我影响也有一些。我觉得我downswing的时候回
给我转了体的上体带来更大的阻力。
可能回影响timing。
【在 f*t 的大作中提到】
: 如果顺风少两杆，那顶风加几杆呢？是要正常击球还是要knock down呢？
: 我每次顶风就打得烂，tee shot就开始紧张。not feel comfertable.
: 还是顺风球好打啊。
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