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u****d
发帖数: 2578
1
QE Not Working, And Is Ending
*************************************************
Debt-Friendly Stimulus
Robert J. Shiller
20 March 2013
NEW HAVEN – With much of the global economy apparently trapped in a long
and painful austerity-induced slump, it is time to admit that the trap is
entirely of our own making. We have constructed it from unfortunate habits
of thought about how to handle spiraling public debt.
People developed these habits on the basis of the experiences of their
families and friends: when in debt trouble, one must cut spending and pass
through a period of austerity until the burden (debt relative to income) is
reduced. That means no meals out for a while, no new cars, and no new
clothes. It seems like common sense – even moral virtue – to respond this
way.
But, while that approach to debt works well for a single household in
trouble, it does not work well for an entire economy, for the spending cuts
only worsen the problem. This is the paradox of thrift: belt-tightening
causes people to lose their jobs, because other people are not buying what
they produce, so their debt burden rises rather than falls.
There is a way out of this trap, but only if we tilt the discussion about
how to lower the debt/GDP ratio away from austerity – higher taxes and
lower spending – toward debt-friendly stimulus: increasing taxes even more
and raising government expenditure in the same proportion. That way, the
debt/GDP ratio declines because the denominator (economic output) increases,
not because the numerator (the total the government has borrowed) declines.
This kind of enlightened stimulus runs into strong prejudices. For starters,
people tend to think of taxes as a loathsome infringement on their freedom,
as if petty bureaucrats will inevitably squander the increased revenue on
useless and ineffective government employees and programs. But the
additional work done does not necessarily involve only government employees,
and citizens can have some voice in how the expenditure is directed.
People also believe that tax increases cannot realistically be purely
temporary expedients in an economic crisis, and that they must be regarded
as an opening wedge that should be avoided at all costs. History shows,
however, that tax increases, if expressly designated as temporary, are
indeed reversed later. That is what happens after major wars, for example.
We need to consider such issues in trying to understand why, for example,
Italian voters last month rejected the sober economist Mario Monti, who
forced austerity on them, notably by raising property taxes. Italians are in
the habit of thinking that tax increases necessarily go only to paying off
rich investors, rather than to paying for government services like better
roads and schools.
Keynesian stimulus policy is habitually described as deficit spending, not
tax-financed spending. Stimulus by tax cuts might almost seem to be built on
deception, for its effect on consumption and investment expenditure seems
to require individuals to forget that they will be taxed later for public
spending today, when the government repays the debt with interest. If
individuals were rational and well informed, they might conclude that they
should not spend more, despite tax cuts, since the cuts are not real.
We do not need to rely on such tricks to stimulate the economy and reduce
the ratio of debt to income. The fundamental economic problem that currently
troubles much of the world is insufficient demand. Businesses are not
investing enough in new plants and equipment, or adding jobs, largely
because people are not spending enough – or are not expected to spend
enough in the future – to keep the economy going at full tilt.
Debt-friendly stimulus might be regarded as nothing more than a collective
decision by all of us to spend more to jump-start the economy. It has
nothing to do with taking on debt or tricking people about future taxes. If
left to individual decisions, people would not spend more on consumption,
but maybe we can vote for a government that will compel us all to do that
collectively, thereby creating enough demand to put the economy on an even
keel in short order.
Simply put, Keynesian stimulus does not necessarily entail more government
debt, as popular discourse seems continually to assume. Rather, stimulus is
about collective decisions to get aggregate spending back on track. Because
it is a collective decision, the spending naturally involves different kinds
of consumption than we would make individually – say, better highways,
rather than more dinners out. But that should be okay, especially if we all
have jobs.
Balanced-budget stimulus was first advocated in the early 1940’s by William
Salant, an economist in President Franklin Roosevelt’s administration, and
by Paul Samuelson, then a young economics professor at the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology. They argued that, because any government stimulus
implies higher taxes sooner or later, the increase might as well come
immediately. For the average person, the higher taxes do not mean lower
after-tax income, because the stimulus will have the immediate effect of
raising incomes. And no one is deceived.
Many believe that balanced-budget stimulus – tax increases at a time of
economic distress – is politically impossible. After all, French President
François Hollande retreated under immense political pressure from his
campaign promises to implement debt-friendly stimulus. But, given the
shortage of good alternatives, we must not assume that bad habits of thought
can never be broken, and we should keep the possibility of more enlightened
policy constantly in mind.
Some form of debt-friendly stimulus might ultimately appeal to voters if
they could be convinced that raising taxes does not necessarily mean
hardship or increased centralization of decision-making. If and when people
understand that it means the same average level of take-home pay after taxes
, plus the benefits of more jobs and of the products of additional
government expenditure (such as new highways), they may well wonder why they
ever tried stimulus any other way.
s*****e
发帖数: 16824
2
美国这是自己扇自由市场经济的脸。

【在 u****d 的大作中提到】
: QE Not Working, And Is Ending
: *************************************************
: Debt-Friendly Stimulus
: Robert J. Shiller
: 20 March 2013
: NEW HAVEN – With much of the global economy apparently trapped in a long
: and painful austerity-induced slump, it is time to admit that the trap is
: entirely of our own making. We have constructed it from unfortunate habits
: of thought about how to handle spiraling public debt.
: People developed these habits on the basis of the experiences of their

u****d
发帖数: 2578
3
嘿嘿,全球大萧条就在街角。现在所有人都认可QE不工作,从历史上来看,是二战拯救
了美国和世界经济。美国的大幅加税从经济角度类似于集中力量打一次世界大战。只要
股市跌的够低,一切皆能通过。这就是民主的特色。

【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】
: 美国这是自己扇自由市场经济的脸。
S******8
发帖数: 24594
4
和去年前年相比,可支配收入明显降低啊!
u****d
发帖数: 2578
5
现在是相当于通胀调整后的95年。

【在 S******8 的大作中提到】
: 和去年前年相比,可支配收入明显降低啊!
c****o
发帖数: 32446
6
支持加睡
G*****h
发帖数: 33134
7
别扯了,难道 naz 过几年又要上 5000?

【在 u****d 的大作中提到】
: 现在是相当于通胀调整后的95年。
M*****n
发帖数: 16729
8
花了那么多的钱搞福利和打仗
不可能不加税,
不可能靠印钞票过一辈子。
不光要加税,还要砍福利
否则美国死路一条。
r***k
发帖数: 13586
9
现在黑人们就已经很厉害的到处惹事了,你再砍福利人家持枪上街随便杀人了。

【在 M*****n 的大作中提到】
: 花了那么多的钱搞福利和打仗
: 不可能不加税,
: 不可能靠印钞票过一辈子。
: 不光要加税,还要砍福利
: 否则美国死路一条。

u****d
发帖数: 2578
10
说的是收入相当于95年。

【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】
: 别扯了,难道 naz 过几年又要上 5000?
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