l*******2
发帖数: 1 | 1 她提出了一个观点就是control room, 核心思想是如果新冠是自然突变的，而且是这么
明显的突变，那么它会马上启动damage control自毁机制的，不会在自然界中存活长久
她还说美国科学家那篇说新冠是自然起源的文章是受美国政府指使的
https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/czech-molecular-biologist-dr-sona-pekova-explains
-in-layman-terms-that-covid-19-virus-originates-from-a-lab-in-u-s-and-not-
china/
30th March 2020 – (Prague) A Czech molecular biologist, Dr. Soňa Peková
explained in detail why she believed that the novel coronavirus originated
from the laboratory in the U.S. and not in China. She also tried to disprove
the claim which appeared on Nature Medicine journal that the virus evolved
from a natural mutation.
Dr. Soňa Peková revealed the shocking exposé in lay man’s terms. She has
become literally a Czech national celebrity and star in the last few days,
not only because her laboratory was the first in the Czech Republic to test
one of the first cases infected with novel coronavirus but she also
developed a new and cheap method to test this virus. During her interview
with the Slovak news channel TA3, where she openly talked about the origin
of Sars-Cov-2 virus and explained in detail to the host in detail why she
thinks COVID-19 originated in the laboratory and not a natural mutation
found in infected animals. It does not happen too often that a leading
biologist can explain to ordinary laymen how it is recognized that some
virus originates from the laboratory and another is not.
In the interview, Dr. Peková explained that viruses generally consist of
RNA strands that tend to mutate, change, merge and alter, especially in
those RNA sections that take care of protein production. In this region of
RNA, the changes are so dynamic that the influence of nature is natural and
mutations from natural cycles are the most common form of mutation. However,
each virus and each of its RNAs has something called a “control room”, a
control site that controls mutations in the rest of the RNA. This region of
RNA at the very beginning of the helix could be compared to any boot sector
on the computer disk from which the operating system itself is booting.
Basically, this can be thought of as a BIOS interface. And when biologists
look at this piece of RNA, they just don’t go together.
The novel coronavirus RNA control centre looks like somebody who turned it
upside down and it still works perfectly. From the biologist’s point of
view, it looks as if, figuratively speaking, someone has invaded the
headquarters of this RNA control room, turned it all up there, throwing away
all the cabinets and drawers in such a way that it is very hard to believe
on the one hand, this process originated accidentally in nature, and on the
other hand, that this chaotic and accidental process would not kill the
virus.
Dr. Peková shows the regulatory part of Coronavirus RNA where the so-called
control room is located. Picture credit : AE NEWS
Indeed, the RNA control room itself is the main point of controlling the
mutation of the rest of the RNA, and in this case it would mean that we
should believe that in nature somehow the inserter and the control room of
the virus were rewritten to perfection without destroying the virus function
. And that’s why Dr. Pekova believes that novel coronavirus could have
originated in the lab, because such fundamental changes in the RNA control
room of the virus would naturally not have occurred in the case, without
destroying the virus.
In an interview, Dr. Peková explained that the RNA virus functioned in such
a clear way that it caused horror at certain places. Her explanation of
what had happened in the RNA control room of this virus had crossed the line
of separating incomprehensible information from the general public. She
explained to the viewers that there had been massive gene changes and
transcripts, insertions (deletions), deletions (deletions), and other
complex changes in the magnitude of the RNA Sars-Cov-2 control room, if
nature had created it chaotically and randomly, the virus would simply
perish because it could not have functioned in an orderly manner.
She explained in an understandable way to ordinary people how the virus
works, intense “damage control” is triggered somewhere else with the sole
aim of denying this information and impersonating it as a natural, albeit
unusual, natural mutation without any intervention of man and his
laboratories. She claimed that the US government issued an order to American
scientists to deny this information. US government urged scientists to
write counter-analysis refuting Chinese accusations and also statements by
the Czech molecular biologist several days ago. It was more like a crisis
management to refute all the information that the novel coronavirus
originated in the laboratory.
The paradox is that DrPeková made reference to a laboratory in Wuhan, that
is the well-known National Biosafety Laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of
Virology and she said that it is not China that needs to refute anything
about this theory.
The analysis itself is full of scientific and biological phrases and
information about the genome, which may not tell us much, but only the
introduction and the end of this text will be pinned from the document
itself. As it turns out, this is not a comprehensive scientific study, but
rather a political proclamation to protect the US that US laboratories are
not behind the gene manipulation of novel coronavirus. The article on Nature
Medicine journal itself published on 17th March this year is called ‘COVID
-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin’ and in its introduction
completely excludes the laboratory origin of novel coronavirus. The
introduction to the analysis reads: ‘An analysis of public genome sequence
data from SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses found no evidence that the virus
was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.’
Study co-author Andrew Rambaut in the article cautioned that ‘it is
difficult if not impossible to know at this point which of the scenarios is
most likely. If the SARS-CoV-2 entered humans in its current pathogenic form
from an animal source, it raises the probability of future outbreaks, as
the illness-causing strain of the virus could still be circulating in the
animal population and might once again jump into humans. The chances are
lower of a non-pathogenic coronavirus entering the human population and then
evolving properties similar to SARS-CoV-2.’
Peková working at her laboratory. Picture credit : AE NEWS
On the other hand, the motive of the US military is clear, it is fleeing
viral infection from Europe and there will be no Defender 2020 exercise this
year (This year’s exercise was planned to simulate a fictional near-peer
competitor in a post-Article V environment set in the year 2028). So, from
the categorical statement in the second paragraph at the beginning of the
analysis which shows that the novel coronavirus is not a laboratory product,
she came to the conclusion that it is currently impossible to prove or
disprove the described theories of the origin of novel coronavirus, and that
the theory is only “Unreliable”. She understood why American scientists
have adopted this approach because they want to keep the door open for the
future, in case it breaks and the truth is open to the public. Scientists
don’t want to risk their discrediting as part of the US government’s
political campaign and damage control management where information is
leaking and China accused the US of sending troops to China to plant the
virus during Military World Games that took place in Wuhan last October.
The US military has de facto silently abolished the largest NATO exercise in
Europe since the end of the Cold War, Defender 2020. The reason for the
abolition of the exercise is the Covid-19 infection that is currently raging
across Europe. However, this is an absolutely unprecedented step, because
in Europe, American soldiers and military vessels were already deployed.
Everything was planned and it suddenly came to an abrupt end. With SARS,
MERS epidemics, all possible avian and swine flu in the past, the US
military did not interfere with any operations and major exercises. Why then
suddenly, because of novel coronavirus, the biggest NATO exercise in Europe
in 30 years has stopped? Did the Americans bring a biological weapon to
Wuhan last October, which mutated and, instead of infecting only Chinese
people, the virus now invades everybody and, as it turns out, mainly
Europeans? The reason is obvious, the American generals seem to know very
well what novel coronavirus is and where it came from, where the virus was
created. If the Pentagon never does anything, it is exposing its own army to
its own biological weapons. And it is novel coronavirus, according to all
information, not only according to the opinion of Dr Peková, and not only
according to the claims of the Chinese government that really comes from
some laboratory program, and we can speculate that it may be a biological
weapons program of the US Army and US Navy respectively. It all fits into a
picture together perfectly. In October 2019, the Military World Games was
held in Wuhan and attended by an American military delegation of athletes. A
novel coronavirus epidemic occurred in Wuhan in December 2019. At that time
, European media said that the virus originated due to poor hygiene and
insufficient heat treatment of Chinese traditional foods sold on the street
of China.
Virus analysis on computer. Picture credit : AE NEWS
In just two months, the contagion reached Italy in Europe and the Czech
government in its naivety declares that it would not control the Southern
border of tourists returning by car from holidays in Italy. A month later,
the whole of Europe was in crisis, emergency states were announced. In the
light of this contagion, NATO is cancelling the biggest military exercise
since 1989. If nothing else, NATO has just shown its weakness to Russia that
it is enough to spread the virus in Europe and NATO is completely shut down
. Many NATO countries have disagreed with abolishing the Defender 2020
exercise, but the Americans obviously knew what they were doing. Can a more
severe flu stifle NATO’s largest military manoeuvres in Europe since 1989?
And can a virus from a research laboratory do it? Apparently yes. Abolishing
the Defender 2020 exercise is also perhaps an attempt to avoid sending out
misleading signals if it turns out that some NATO countries will refuse to
participate in the exercise due to the viral threat. And that would be an
indication of NATO disunity, fear of viral contagion, etc. The Pentagon’s
decision was certainly not easy because, according to the latest information
, 9,000 US troops out of a total of 20,000 were to be deployed to Europe in
the near future.
Instead of Defender 2020, there will be a minor routine military exercise of
artillery, armoured vehicles and aircraft in the Baltic, but to a limited
extent and format. All because of the virus, which, paradoxically, even
according to American scientists, from this analysis is still unclear and
inconclusive. When China openly accused the US of planting a virus in Wuhan,
it is a scandal. As well as the confession of CDC chief Robert Redfield
that in the US people were dying of novel coronavirus at a time when no one
in the US knew about novel coronavirus, and death was originally attributed
to influenza and only recently was found to die from novel coronavirus
clearly reveals a very scary context. Dr. Peková may have revealed more to
the world than she might suspect.
Meanwhile, Lawyer Larry Klayman and his group Freedom Watch has filed a
class-action lawsuit against China at the federal court in Texas seeking at
least US$20 trillion from the Chinese government because of its “callous
and reckless indifference and malicious acts.” Researchers and public
health experts have repeated shot down the conspiracy theory that the
coronavirus was man-made, with studies showing that it originated as an
animal virus that eventually jumped to humans. Nonetheless, the claim has
gained traction on the right, with conservative media figures seizing upon
it to advocate for a more aggressive U.S. posture toward China. | l*******2
发帖数: 1 | 2 复读者评论
Tan Soon Choo
All rubbish
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Tony Rossini
It is if you are an igorant dumb American that can't accept some home truths!
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Qiu Wei
there is an easy way to prove this. since the Nature Medicine journal claim
it came from bat and animals, to prove this all we have to do is to show
that bats and other animals implied can be infected with this stain. it
would be impossible for the stain to immediately lose it ability to infect a
creature within just a few infection cycle. if the virus can do this, then
the virus is "not broken" as she suggest it is.
the journal claim based on genetic similarity always sound stupid to me, i
mean u can find books that use the same number of words but they can be
completely different genre altogether, the order of expression in gene
matters, u can't tell if the genes are similiar or not by looking at the
number of words, u have to express it and see how it interacts. i mean human
and ape are more similiar than the virus they are comparing covid19, so if
it is the same, we might as well claim apes are human being and start
handing out citizenship to them.
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Ben Lowsen
Tony Rossini Hide in your hole, racist troll.
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Michael Jiang
Thanks for the information, i hope HK become a free press center of the
world
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Yeo Kim Chooi
Thank you Dr. Sona Pekova for your relevations.
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Sean Gates
https://www.news.com.au/.../104a81601ff7b94fec6dae3e158ad0a1
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Paak Seng Boey
American virus
Like · Reply · 9 · 19h
Ronald Cutburth
Spacibo Dr. Soňa Peková
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Kim Rasmussen
Even though I believe the Americans to be able to do a lot of shit, the
article includes a LOT of unsubstantiated allegations and statements. Even
if it is lab produced why would it have been produced by the Americans?
Because the Chinese say so??? Hardly. Also why would the americans release a
virus that is now killing americans in its thousands? Not likely either.
The Chinese however? And they are being further suspected as they have
canceled a military exercise duer to the virus? Going ahead would be
completely irresponsible - and crazy. Should the Russians see this as an
opportunity to invade Europe. Hardly. If they would invade NATO and the US
would fight back, virus or no virus. This whole article looks like Chinese
propaganda. The virus may be man made, I'm not disputing that but why
exactly by the americans. Not a thread of evidence.
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Anne Regan Pringle
America would do it because they will sell the vaccine. Already Johnson and
Johnson has one billion dollar contract.
They don't care if Americans are killed. $$$.
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Eve Zhang
American 2ants to get rid of poor people, that's what they are doing now
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Kim Rasmussen
Anne Regan Pringle Where's the evidence? Accusations are not proof.
Like · Reply · 7h
Kim Rasmussen
Eve Zhang And the Chinese wouldn't?
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Calvin Nam
Even more unlikely for the Chinese to do it..no one is that stupid to infect
their own and have no vaccine..
Not to mention.. doing that on themselves will simply destroy their economy
amid a trade war..
US , on the other hand..will benefit if Asia is infected..they will win the
trade war..and they may be guessing that the virus will take too long before
it reach them..and not lethal enough..
They may think their medical facilities are better and more capable..as they
ranked themselves top place in 2019..
They may also plan this to start propaganda to destroy China's relationship
with the world
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Kim Rasmussen
Calvin Nam Are you seriously listening to yourself? Again, where is the
smoking gun? I believe Trump to be capable of a lot of shit, but I see no
proof in any of the article or your comments. Just suspicions. | B******e
发帖数: 16928 | | l*******2
发帖数: 1 | 4
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: 没有白牛的照片吗？
| v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | 5 细菌才有control room吧，不知道病毒也必须有吗？懂行的人来指点一下 | g******t
发帖数: 18158 | | B******e
发帖数: 16928 | 7 不咋地。
【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】
| k*****k
发帖数: 1 | 8 外星人也能造
这次是外星人控制的事件，和一战和二战一样
只是外星人最终目的和持续时间不明，不过看进程发展应该容易猜到 | S**********p
发帖数: 331 | | p*******9
发帖数: 1860 | 10 By Dimsumdaily Hong Kong -3:33PM Mon March 30, 2020
https://www.instagram.com/dimsumdailyhk/?hl=en | | | W*******3
发帖数: 1204 | 11 说得有道理，估计中国也知道了，但是不想现在翻脸 | d*****u
发帖数: 17243 | 12 这采访稿不是特别专业。
哪位千老来总结一下？
我大致扫了一眼，说的是“control room”序列看上去过于无序，自然界如果出现这种
状况那么病毒无法functional。所以必定是欲盖弥彰人造的。 | x****6
发帖数: 4339 | 13 叔研究病毒，从没听过 control room这个概念。
这女的是民科吧 | x****6
发帖数: 4339 | 14 叔研究病毒，从没听过 control room这个概念。
这女的是民科吧 | b*********4
发帖数: 1 | | i****d
发帖数: 724 | 16 wow!
explains
disprove
evolved
【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】
: 她提出了一个观点就是control room, 核心思想是如果新冠是自然突变的，而且是这么
: 明显的突变，那么它会马上启动damage control自毁机制的，不会在自然界中存活长久
: 她还说美国科学家那篇说新冠是自然起源的文章是受美国政府指使的
: https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/czech-molecular-biologist-dr-sona-pekova-explains
: -in-layman-terms-that-covid-19-virus-originates-from-a-lab-in-u-s-and-not-
: china/
: 30th March 2020 – (Prague) A Czech molecular biologist, Dr. Soňa Peková
: explained in detail why she believed that the novel coronavirus originated
: from the laboratory in the U.S. and not in China. She also tried to disprove
: the claim which appeared on Nature Medicine journal that the virus evolved
| l*******2
发帖数: 1 | 17 你就是半瓶子醋，成天在这晃荡
【在 x****6 的大作中提到】
: 叔研究病毒，从没听过 control room这个概念。
: 这女的是民科吧
| r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 18 tg自己甩锅还不行，还买通了外人？
很显然的，其他发达国家的不敢买，只好找这种鼻屎小国了，弄不好论文都是中国人写
的，转给她直接发表 | x****6
发帖数: 4339 | 19 你给我找个病毒的 control room的文献来看看？
【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】
: 你就是半瓶子醋，成天在这晃荡
| q***g
发帖数: 1 | 20 捷克很反华的，不至于帮土鳖说话！
你就在本版搜一下“捷克”，基本上都是捷克在说土鳖的坏话。
都是你们带歪D贴的贴子。
【在 r***i 的大作中提到】
: tg自己甩锅还不行，还买通了外人？
: 很显然的，其他发达国家的不敢买，只好找这种鼻屎小国了，弄不好论文都是中国人写
: 的，转给她直接发表
| | | q***g
发帖数: 1 | 21 五毒俱全的所，就是美国陆军P4！
Ft Dietrich！
美国陆军P4，7月泄露是有新闻的，8月又泄露了一次，也是有新闻的。
事实上，1.23，武汉的全部真是感染数值，大约就1500左右。
这个有数据模型支持的。
武汉最早回溯的病例是 11.17发病的一位55岁好汉。（联合早报新闻）
考虑潜伏期，所以，真正的0号应该在10月底或者11月初。但是武汉找不到0号啊。
那么，米军千里送毒是可能的。
米蒂的罗斯福号航母，10月份以后就没靠过岸。现在51例。只能说，这病，早期传播很
慢，来自于美军内部！
否则美国军方也不会发公告说要捂盖子！（有正式新闻的）
0号
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIF8HBFWMyU
Nanl Phillips：
I work in Md still a good many people running around. I was also watching
Commercial planes landing & taking off last week. I think it was Tues or Wed
come Friday they just fly over. I was sick about 2 weeks ago for about a
week. Still went to work (mostly foreigners). But I don't think I got sick
from them. A neighbors relative mentioned something the other day when he
was getting his hair cut by my neighbor. He said he was working at Ft
Dietrich doing clean up after they shut down. Said he had a virus of some
sort that made him sick for 3 weeks. He works for the State of Md. Not sure
what exactly he does. I should have drilled down on him with questions. I
may see him again sometime & get more answers. Like what kind of symptoms ,
etc. I really didn't want to ask to much while his dad was there. He's a
younger guy but healthy (stocky). | BR
发帖数: 4151 | 22 真够饥不择食的，连 dimsum daily 这种地摊报纸也转。 | l*******2
发帖数: 1 | 23 人家就是给记者打个比喻好理解，其实大概就是是病毒非编码区（NCR）非编码区又称
上游调控区（URR）或长控制区（LCR）
【在 x****6 的大作中提到】
: 你给我找个病毒的 control room的文献来看看？
| k*******r
发帖数: 16963 | | l*******2
发帖数: 1 | 25 布拉格是CIA在中欧的一个重要据点
【在 k*******r 的大作中提到】
: 白妞不久将被自杀，CIA不是吹的。
| x****6
发帖数: 4339 | 26 她有贴具体的分析数据吗？
非编码区域的进化速度不会比编码区域慢，在有的情况下甚至更快，比如人的基因组了
（如果我没记错的话）
并且非编码区的调控序列控制突变 这一说法是错误/误导。
病毒的突变率是由 聚合酶决定的，在新冠这里是 RNA-dependent RNA polymerase。它
也是remdesivir的成药靶点。这种酶是出了名的制造高突变率，因为和它的亲戚 DNA
polymerase比起来，它的蛋白少了一整个结构域。而这个结构域是用来校对聚合过程中
的出错的。
【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】
: 人家就是给记者打个比喻好理解，其实大概就是是病毒非编码区（NCR）非编码区又称
: 上游调控区（URR）或长控制区（LCR）
| l*******2
发帖数: 1 | 27 你可以给她发email啊
【在 x****6 的大作中提到】
: 她有贴具体的分析数据吗？
: 非编码区域的进化速度不会比编码区域慢，在有的情况下甚至更快，比如人的基因组了
: （如果我没记错的话）
: 并且非编码区的调控序列控制突变 这一说法是错误/误导。
: 病毒的突变率是由 聚合酶决定的，在新冠这里是 RNA-dependent RNA polymerase。它
: 也是remdesivir的成药靶点。这种酶是出了名的制造高突变率，因为和它的亲戚 DNA
: polymerase比起来，它的蛋白少了一整个结构域。而这个结构域是用来校对聚合过程中
: 的出错的。
| x****6
发帖数: 4339 | 28 你自己看看，变异主要集中在orf里面。
【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】
: 你可以给她发email啊
| k*****a
发帖数: 7389 | |
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