I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 1 半夜上来提个问题
今天跑了0.5X6的interval,途中心率在175左右。最后一组的时候push了一下,发现心
率到181以后就再也上不去了。这是不是意味着我的MaxHR就在181左右了? |
c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 2 nope. you can read AM on how to estimate your HRmax
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 半夜上来提个问题 : 今天跑了0.5X6的interval,途中心率在175左右。最后一组的时候push了一下,发现心 : 率到181以后就再也上不去了。这是不是意味着我的MaxHR就在181左右了?
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m**k 发帖数: 18660 | 3 可能还会高一点,不多
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 半夜上来提个问题 : 今天跑了0.5X6的interval,途中心率在175左右。最后一组的时候push了一下,发现心 : 率到181以后就再也上不去了。这是不是意味着我的MaxHR就在181左右了?
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 4 我今早也跑interval了,800m x 4,rest 2 min,跑完最后一个800m后的心率为185。
但我的最高心率在200+。
我估计你的Max HR在185-190之间。
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 半夜上来提个问题 : 今天跑了0.5X6的interval,途中心率在175左右。最后一组的时候push了一下,发现心 : 率到181以后就再也上不去了。这是不是意味着我的MaxHR就在181左右了?
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t*****M 发帖数: 597 | 5 严格地讲,你到了maximum HR会倒下死掉...都是estimation |
y**********u 发帖数: 6366 | 6 恭喜,终于看到一个maxhr和我差不多的哥们了!
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 半夜上来提个问题 : 今天跑了0.5X6的interval,途中心率在175左右。最后一组的时候push了一下,发现心 : 率到181以后就再也上不去了。这是不是意味着我的MaxHR就在181左右了?
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l***h 发帖数: 9308 | 7 我记得是在保障安全的前提下测出的最大值,你说的可能叫ultimate HR?
【在 t*****M 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 严格地讲,你到了maximum HR会倒下死掉...都是estimation
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 8 我这就是个懒,不想按AM说的那样上坡下坡的折腾
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : nope. you can read AM on how to estimate your HRmax
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 9 那你平时跑,MaxHR按多少算?
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 恭喜,终于看到一个maxhr和我差不多的哥们了!
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 10 有人试过这个测试吗?
http://www.training2run.com/html/mhr_test.html
THE TEST: Step on the treadmill, running at 2 mph (miles per hour), and set
to an angle of 2%. Walk at this easy pace for three minutes. Unless you
have problems with balance, do not grasp the rails during any part of the
test.
At the end of the first three minutes, increase the speed to 3 mph, and the
angle to 4%.
At the end of the next three minutes, increase the speed to 4 mph and the
angle to 6%
After three more minutes, increase the speed to 5 mph, and the angle to 8%.
At the end of the next three minutes, hold at 5 mph, but increase the angle
to 10%. (If the person being tested is a trained endurance runner, the
speed may be increased to 6 mph and higher.)
At the end of the next three minutes, do not change the speed, but increase
the angle to 12%.
You may touch the rails lightly, to regain and maintain balance, but do not
hold onto them.
If the treadmill will go beyond 12%, continue to increase the angle of
incline every three minutes until the runner becomes too tired to continue,
elects to stop, or the heart rate refuses to go any higher. Record this
final maximum heart rate.
If the treadmill will not go higher than 10% or 12%, you may instead
increase the speed every three minutes (only for trained runners who are
used to the higher speeds, and who are able to maintain balance at the
higher speeds without holding on to the rails).
After reaching and recording MHR, reduce the angle of the treadmill to 2%,
the speed to a comfortable walk, and allow the runner to continue until
breathing is normal. Terminate the test. |
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y**********u 发帖数: 6366 | 11 190左右吧
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那你平时跑,MaxHR按多少算?
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 12 你是all out了吗?我觉得自己怎么也有95% effort那样子了。
按年龄的粗磨估算法,我应该在183,但3个月前我半马的avg HR在177左右,感觉离all
out还很远,按白老大的说法是跑的negative split,倒过来算,即使我是用的90%HR
,那我的Max也应该在200左右
所以昨天把我跑糊涂了,难道MaxHR不是一个常数,还是我乏氧能力太差?
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我今早也跑interval了,800m x 4,rest 2 min,跑完最后一个800m后的心率为185。 : 但我的最高心率在200+。 : 我估计你的Max HR在185-190之间。
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 13 算了我也不费那个脑了,就按你这190跑吧,181正好是95%MHR,也符合Interval的上限
心率。
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 190左右吧
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 14 有空试下,很简单的样子
这样达到的心率就算MHR了吗?
set
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【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有人试过这个测试吗? : http://www.training2run.com/html/mhr_test.html : THE TEST: Step on the treadmill, running at 2 mph (miles per hour), and set : to an angle of 2%. Walk at this easy pace for three minutes. Unless you : have problems with balance, do not grasp the rails during any part of the : test. : At the end of the first three minutes, increase the speed to 3 mph, and the : angle to 4%. : At the end of the next three minutes, increase the speed to 4 mph and the : angle to 6%
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y**********u 发帖数: 6366 | 15 哦,主要是我全马最后冲刺的时候到了187
平时到了170,我就生不如死了
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 算了我也不费那个脑了,就按你这190跑吧,181正好是95%MHR,也符合Interval的上限 : 心率。
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 16 您太谦虚咧。。。
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哦,主要是我全马最后冲刺的时候到了187 : 平时到了170,我就生不如死了
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 17 I'm lazy too. I never did that test.
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我这就是个懒,不想按AM说的那样上坡下坡的折腾
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 18 这个方法更简单:
Test Your MaxHR in 30secs
http://kristophshealthandfitnessblog.com/test-your-maxhr-in-30s
The second test was really simple: the subjects sprinted as fast as they
could for 200 metres on a standard track, with a running start. They
measured their heart rate during the sprint and recorded the highest value.
The average from the treadmill test was 190.0 (which can around 20 minutes
to complete); the average determined from the 200m sprint (which takes a
little over 30 seconds) was 190.1 - accurate and time efficient.
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有空试下,很简单的样子 : 这样达到的心率就算MHR了吗? : : set : the
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 19 Can't find a standard track around within 10 miles.
Does anybody know if Caltech has a standard track and open to public? |
c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 20 Many high schools would have tracks.
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Can't find a standard track around within 10 miles. : Does anybody know if Caltech has a standard track and open to public?
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 21 I don't think they would be free access to public.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Many high schools would have tracks.
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L*****k 发帖数: 13042 | 22 almost all do...but many don't open to the public.
sometimes you might need to sneak in.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Many high schools would have tracks.
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 23 Oh. I never had problems.
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I don't think they would be free access to public.
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 24 I will find one and try. Thanks.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Oh. I never had problems.
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 25 I paid my property tax to support my local school and they deny my access to
their idling track? WTF, of course they should be open, though they would
put an ads for the track
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I don't think they would be free access to public.
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 26 you don't live in the US?
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I don't think they would be free access to public.
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o***n 发帖数: 416 | 27 Some high schools near my home are not open to the public over the weekends
or school breaks. The track fields are recently rebuilt with fake turfs.
Before that, I was able to access the fields over the weekends. I've called
one of the school to complain but they are not going to change that in the
near future.
to
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I paid my property tax to support my local school and they deny my access to : their idling track? WTF, of course they should be open, though they would : put an ads for the track
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 28 fremont high?
weekends
called
【在 o***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Some high schools near my home are not open to the public over the weekends : or school breaks. The track fields are recently rebuilt with fake turfs. : Before that, I was able to access the fields over the weekends. I've called : one of the school to complain but they are not going to change that in the : near future. : : to
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y**********u 发帖数: 6366 | 29 一般来说是220-age可以估算
不过我前几年太废了,估计还得-5,差不多185,190算是比较高估了。。。
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I will find one and try. Thanks.
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f*******g 发帖数: 3304 | 30 跑的介么HIGH?
全马这么冲刺可不好
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哦,主要是我全马最后冲刺的时候到了187 : 平时到了170,我就生不如死了
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J*******1 发帖数: 1215 | 31 hmm interesting, I'll try it tomorrow. :)
set
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【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有人试过这个测试吗? : http://www.training2run.com/html/mhr_test.html : THE TEST: Step on the treadmill, running at 2 mph (miles per hour), and set : to an angle of 2%. Walk at this easy pace for three minutes. Unless you : have problems with balance, do not grasp the rails during any part of the : test. : At the end of the first three minutes, increase the speed to 3 mph, and the : angle to 4%. : At the end of the next three minutes, increase the speed to 4 mph and the : angle to 6%
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 32 Never tried, never know.
看来我还是太老实了,得拿出taxpayer的主人翁派头来。。。
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : you don't live in the US?
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 33 如果我去跑track被拒入内,怎么跟他们argue? |
y**********u 发帖数: 6366 | 34 没碰到过被拒
就碰到过local running store在那里举行活动,没地方跑
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果我去跑track被拒入内,怎么跟他们argue?
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f*******d 发帖数: 12693 | 35 看牌子,有些学校有时间限制,上课时间不让用,要做track workout的时候仔细计划
好。
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果我去跑track被拒入内,怎么跟他们argue?
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 36 如果我去跑track被拒入内,怎么跟他们argue? |
o***n 发帖数: 416 | 37 还有Homestead High。估计跟学区有关系,Mountain View High 的track field 好像
一直开放。
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : fremont high? : : weekends : called
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o***n 发帖数: 416 | 38 In my case, the fields were completely chain locked. I had to call later to
complain but it was no use. Luckily for me, there are 3 high schools near
where I live with one always open and a community college which also has a
open track field.
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果我去跑track被拒入内,怎么跟他们argue?
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 39 知道了。
想起来在4mile左右有个community college,按大多数人的意见应该是开放的,周末去
看看。
【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看牌子,有些学校有时间限制,上课时间不让用,要做track workout的时候仔细计划 : 好。
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 40 汇报测试结果:
Gym 专业的treadmill
inclination speed duration MHR
4% 5.4mph 3 min 146
6% 5.4mph 3 min 162
8% 5.4mph 3 min 176
10% 5.4mph 3 min 184
12% 5.4mph 2.5min 193
很丢人的说,最后12%的时候到2分半再也hold不住了,觉得腿软,眼晕,只好歇菜,看
来193就是我的MHR了。
set
the
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有人试过这个测试吗? : http://www.training2run.com/html/mhr_test.html : THE TEST: Step on the treadmill, running at 2 mph (miles per hour), and set : to an angle of 2%. Walk at this easy pace for three minutes. Unless you : have problems with balance, do not grasp the rails during any part of the : test. : At the end of the first three minutes, increase the speed to 3 mph, and the : angle to 4%. : At the end of the next three minutes, increase the speed to 4 mph and the : angle to 6%
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b*****l 发帖数: 2903 | 41 今天我也试了一下,但很失望没有超过以前知道的MHR
inclination speed duration MHR
4% 5.0mph 3 min 120
6% 5.0mph 3 min 137
8% 5.0mph 3 min 150
10% 5.0mph 3 min 159
12% 5.0mph 3 min 168
15% 6.0mph 2 min 173
我这个心率好像很奇怪,因为我的5k是以大于169的心率跑下来的,但怎么push心率也高
不上去了。
我现在练LHR,最低心率算48的话,应该不能超过多少呢?
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 汇报测试结果: : Gym 专业的treadmill : inclination speed duration MHR : 4% 5.4mph 3 min 146 : 6% 5.4mph 3 min 162 : 8% 5.4mph 3 min 176 : 10% 5.4mph 3 min 184 : 12% 5.4mph 2.5min 193 : 很丢人的说,最后12%的时候到2分半再也hold不住了,觉得腿软,眼晕,只好歇菜,看 : 来193就是我的MHR了。
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 42 您真是天生丽质啊! 按照220-年龄,你高出很多啊。我估计也就是公式算出来的,比
你差远了
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 汇报测试结果: : Gym 专业的treadmill : inclination speed duration MHR : 4% 5.4mph 3 min 146 : 6% 5.4mph 3 min 162 : 8% 5.4mph 3 min 176 : 10% 5.4mph 3 min 184 : 12% 5.4mph 2.5min 193 : 很丢人的说,最后12%的时候到2分半再也hold不住了,觉得腿软,眼晕,只好歇菜,看 : 来193就是我的MHR了。
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 43 我都没好意思说我的基础心率。。。怎能当得起您这么夸。。。
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 您真是天生丽质啊! 按照220-年龄,你高出很多啊。我估计也就是公式算出来的,比 : 你差远了
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b*****l 发帖数: 2903 | 44 顶一下,大牛们帮忙回答一下吧,LHR应该在什么范围亚?
【在 b*****l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 今天我也试了一下,但很失望没有超过以前知道的MHR : inclination speed duration MHR : 4% 5.0mph 3 min 120 : 6% 5.0mph 3 min 137 : 8% 5.0mph 3 min 150 : 10% 5.0mph 3 min 159 : 12% 5.0mph 3 min 168 : 15% 6.0mph 2 min 173 : 我这个心率好像很奇怪,因为我的5k是以大于169的心率跑下来的,但怎么push心率也高 : 不上去了。
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y**********u 发帖数: 6366 | 45 我是菜鸟,我个人感觉应该在5不到。。。
也高
【在 b*****l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 顶一下,大牛们帮忙回答一下吧,LHR应该在什么范围亚?
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I*****n 发帖数: 823 | 46 大牛们昨晚告诉我说LHR应该<70%
我说那我就只能走了,所以大牛们只好同意我跑75%
【在 b*****l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 顶一下,大牛们帮忙回答一下吧,LHR应该在什么范围亚?
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b*****l 发帖数: 2903 | 47 这里5是指的什么?
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我是菜鸟,我个人感觉应该在5不到。。。 : : 也高
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b*****l 发帖数: 2903 | 48 我的70%是136,好像也只能走了。
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 大牛们昨晚告诉我说LHR应该<70% : 我说那我就只能走了,所以大牛们只好同意我跑75%
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 49 我的70%都到 123bpm这样,基本上也是走了
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 大牛们昨晚告诉我说LHR应该<70% : 我说那我就只能走了,所以大牛们只好同意我跑75%
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 50 哦?好像还挺管用。193已经比我给你估计的190还高了。哪天我也去试一试。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
【在 I*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 汇报测试结果: : Gym 专业的treadmill : inclination speed duration MHR : 4% 5.4mph 3 min 146 : 6% 5.4mph 3 min 162 : 8% 5.4mph 3 min 176 : 10% 5.4mph 3 min 184 : 12% 5.4mph 2.5min 193 : 很丢人的说,最后12%的时候到2分半再也hold不住了,觉得腿软,眼晕,只好歇菜,看 : 来193就是我的MHR了。
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 51 说明你还没练出白老大那样的神功。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我的70%都到 123bpm这样,基本上也是走了
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b*****l 发帖数: 2903 | 52 铁哥帮我也估一个吧,我用这个方法和跑步时的最高心跳是一样的。
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哦?好像还挺管用。193已经比我给你估计的190还高了。哪天我也去试一试。 : : ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
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