i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 1 越讨论越复杂,越clean as mud。刚才放狗搜了一下,找到这段话:
Re: Does SwimSmooth advocate a "Hip Driven" Technique ?
http://www.swimsmoothforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2154
Post by jtu » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:47 pm
Hip-driven has a specific meaning in the context of Gary Hall (re:Nayan) ...
http://www.slowtwitch.com/Training/Swimming/Your_Best_Freestyle
I don't think rpshough was asking whether the hips should rotate, but rather
whether we should use "hip driven" technique, assuming he/she meant "hip
driven" in the way Gary Hall uses it.
Similarly from the Manitoba paper:
" However, there is little agreement on the optimal timing of the shoulder
and hip rotations, as it has been recently suggested that the torso,
shoulders and hips should all roll together as one (Newsome 2010a;
Young 2010a)." [body-driven] ... "Repeated observation of elite swimmers
suggests that a sequenced roll is more common and likely more effective" [
hip-driven]
Gary Hall would call SS Smooth "body-driven" technique, and as Nayan said
swinger is shoulder driven.
In Mr Smooth you don't see the aggressive movement of the hip before the
shoulder (in agreement with quote). |
i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 2 有闲的人可以读读这篇论文(22页)
The Role of Hip Rotation in Freestyle Swimming [PDF]
http://umanitoba.ca/faculties/kinrec/hlhpri/media/HipRotationSw |
n***p 发帖数: 7668 | 3 我看快要赶上剑宗和气宗的生死之争了。
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rather
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 越讨论越复杂,越clean as mud。刚才放狗搜了一下,找到这段话: : Re: Does SwimSmooth advocate a "Hip Driven" Technique ? : http://www.swimsmoothforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2154 : Post by jtu » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:47 pm : Hip-driven has a specific meaning in the context of Gary Hall (re:Nayan) ... : http://www.slowtwitch.com/Training/Swimming/Your_Best_Freestyle : I don't think rpshough was asking whether the hips should rotate, but rather : whether we should use "hip driven" technique, assuming he/she meant "hip : driven" in the way Gary Hall uses it. : Similarly from the Manitoba paper:
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 4 这个我是真不懂,比如应该是主动转髋还是被动转,什么时候转,转多少,越研究越复
杂。
【在 n***p 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我看快要赶上剑宗和气宗的生死之争了。 : : .. : rather
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r**h 发帖数: 539 | 5 你水平已经很高了,我觉得没有必要纠结了。我还是想说的是每个游泳冠军的游法都不
一样,
长游短游也不同,最好找一个好的教练指导一下,好教练好就好在能根据每个人的的特殊
性找到适合他的游法。 |
i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 6 需要知道各种游法的缘由目的利弊,这样才能知道是否适合自己。其实我觉得我这种矮
身材更适合模仿一些女生的游法,不让Janet Evans和Jodie Swallow。像孙杨那种高帅
富的游法只能选择性地学一点儿,很多都没发效仿。
特殊
【在 r**h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你水平已经很高了,我觉得没有必要纠结了。我还是想说的是每个游泳冠军的游法都不 : 一样, : 长游短游也不同,最好找一个好的教练指导一下,好教练好就好在能根据每个人的的特殊 : 性找到适合他的游法。
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n***p 发帖数: 7668 | 8 我看游泳梦工厂里也是炒得热火朝天,几乎有你死我活的劲头。我觉得,有不同流派
是好事儿,百花齐放,对于业余健身来说,能够不伤身体,又能游得又快又好,那就
是好的。
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个我是真不懂,比如应该是主动转髋还是被动转,什么时候转,转多少,越研究越复 : 杂。
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i*********5 发帖数: 19210 | 9 真心不是要吵,而是想搞清楚各个流派的说法和具体怎么做,然后才知道是否适合用的
自身。有的东西可能不适合,或者说现在的条件下还不适合。就像那个单手drill,我
完全做不出来。
所以非常同意你说的,“对于业余健身来说,能够不伤身体,又能游得又快又好,那就
是好的。”
【在 n***p 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我看游泳梦工厂里也是炒得热火朝天,几乎有你死我活的劲头。我觉得,有不同流派 : 是好事儿,百花齐放,对于业余健身来说,能够不伤身体,又能游得又快又好,那就 : 是好的。
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