b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 1 正手遇到短球是倒底用什么样的Footwork跑到最合适的位置去击球。是侧身Shuffle，
还是侧身Cross Over Shuffle？最后击球前是Close Stance Hopping step对不对？ 高
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 2 我经常冲着球就跑过去了，简直是没有步伐可言
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: 正手遇到短球是倒底用什么样的Footwork跑到最合适的位置去击球。是侧身Shuffle，
: 还是侧身Cross Over Shuffle？最后击球前是Close Stance Hopping step对不对？ 高
: 手们的有什么体会？
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 3 我也经常犯同样的错误，应该是跑到B点，给自己前方和右侧足够空间。
而且如果对方的短球是Low Skidding Slice的话，我经常挥拍晚了。我觉得应该在球落
地前已经做完了Backswing，这样才不会晚。
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 我经常冲着球就跑过去了，简直是没有步伐可言
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 4 高人和我说尽量用open stance, 除非真的来不及。
我注意到我的问题是我常常over run 导致close stance 较多，而且too many moving
parts导致不稳。 如果open stance, 即使是球落地前也可以勾出很好的角度球，所以
可以提前很多就停下来，(现在还没这个意识)。
open stance 还可以用于球高于网，你把身体压上去再上网。但我想你碰上的问题不是
这种球(至少我是这样)。
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: 正手遇到短球是倒底用什么样的Footwork跑到最合适的位置去击球。是侧身Shuffle，
: 还是侧身Cross Over Shuffle？最后击球前是Close Stance Hopping step对不对？ 高
: 手们的有什么体会？
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 5 open stance 打短低球，怎么打dtl？
moving
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 高人和我说尽量用open stance, 除非真的来不及。
: 我注意到我的问题是我常常over run 导致close stance 较多，而且too many moving
: parts导致不稳。 如果open stance, 即使是球落地前也可以勾出很好的角度球，所以
: 可以提前很多就停下来，(现在还没这个意识)。
: open stance 还可以用于球高于网，你把身体压上去再上网。但我想你碰上的问题不是
: 这种球(至少我是这样)。
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 6 easy, same way you hit a open stance dtl from base line.
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: open stance 打短低球，怎么打dtl？
:
: moving
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 7 http://www.tennischannel.com/babolat/
Watch the last 1 minute clinic "short ball footwork". The coach mentioned
that Andy Roddick uses open stance for short balls, that's why his net game
sucks. @_@
Oh, found out there should be another video by Justin Gimelstob that he
mentioned Andy Roddick's open stance for short balls.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: easy, same way you hit a open stance dtl from base line.
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 8 你打这种球的时候，胸口是向前的还是向右？底线用open stance时，是要胸口转向右
侧的，右脚尖也要转向右侧。想不出来向前跑够着打低球时如何能作出这种姿态，除非
你先跑到球边上站稳了打
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: easy, same way you hit a open stance dtl from base line.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 9 胸该向右。
我的问题(相信也是很多ws的问题)不是跑不到，而是over run. 这些球都可以人站稳打
open stance.
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: 你打这种球的时候，胸口是向前的还是向右？底线用open stance时，是要胸口转向右
: 侧的，右脚尖也要转向右侧。想不出来向前跑够着打低球时如何能作出这种姿态，除非
: 你先跑到球边上站稳了打
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 10 “我的问题(相信也是很多ws的问题)不是跑不到”很显然不成立啊，偶就跑不到。而且
对手放小球时，很多wsn也跑不到，至少不可能跑到了在停下来站稳了打；就算你能有
时间站稳，球也太低了，脚面上。。。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 胸该向右。
: 我的问题(相信也是很多ws的问题)不是跑不到，而是over run. 这些球都可以人站稳打
: open stance.
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 11 我觉得Open Stance适合打比较慢比较高的Sitter，有足够的准备时间，因为球较慢所
以不会一下子过了你的hitting zone。如果是short low slice，用open stance可能比
较困难。 |
b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 12 I was told by someone that pros are taught to use open stance.
As far as Roddick's less perfect net game, i think there are a lot reasons,
I would not say Roddick's sorry ass net game is purely due to the open
stance on short balls.
game
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: http://www.tennischannel.com/babolat/
: Watch the last 1 minute clinic "short ball footwork". The coach mentioned
: that Andy Roddick uses open stance for short balls, that's why his net game
: sucks. @_@
: Oh, found out there should be another video by Justin Gimelstob that he
: mentioned Andy Roddick's open stance for short balls.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 13 跑不到就只能用close stance. (这我已经说了)
球太低可以变成reverse forehand, stance 还是open 的
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: “我的问题(相信也是很多ws的问题)不是跑不到”很显然不成立啊，偶就跑不到。而且
: 对手放小球时，很多wsn也跑不到，至少不可能跑到了在停下来站稳了打；就算你能有
: 时间站稳，球也太低了，脚面上。。。
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 14 I wouldn't say that either. :) It was said by some coach, which I don't
quite understand yet. Not sure which one is better open or close stance. It
seems that FF always use close stance and hopping steps for short balls so
that he can fluently comes to net.
,
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: I was told by someone that pros are taught to use open stance.
: As far as Roddick's less perfect net game, i think there are a lot reasons,
: I would not say Roddick's sorry ass net game is purely due to the open
: stance on short balls.
:
: game
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r*********x
发帖数: 3016 | 15 If you have any question on shots or footwork, just watch FF's video. All FF
's tech are textbook.
It
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: I wouldn't say that either. :) It was said by some coach, which I don't
: quite understand yet. Not sure which one is better open or close stance. It
: seems that FF always use close stance and hopping steps for short balls so
: that he can fluently comes to net.
:
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 16 open stance该是default choice. 球快慢高低其实没啥，只要人能到位站稳都可以有
很大margin的打，并且容易打角度。
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得Open Stance适合打比较慢比较高的Sitter，有足够的准备时间，因为球较慢所
: 以不会一下子过了你的hitting zone。如果是short low slice，用open stance可能比
: 较困难。
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 17 那啥时候决定该用open还是closed的呢？跑之前就想好，还是边跑边想，还是跑到了在
变？这两种步伐差别很大，甚至你跑动的目标位置都不一样，怎么可能变来变去的
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 跑不到就只能用close stance. (这我已经说了)
: 球太低可以变成reverse forehand, stance 还是open 的
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 18 如果用Open stance的话，在setup之前你是怎么跑过去的，是正对着球往前跑，还是侧
对着球Shuffle的？
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: open stance该是default choice. 球快慢高低其实没啥，只要人能到位站稳都可以有
: 很大margin的打，并且容易打角度。
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 19 我是这么认为的， close stance 会有很多moving parts, 所以open stance 该更稳。
对于我来说，这个稳的gap 比较大，但对FF来说可能这稳的gap 不那么大， 并且我的
grip 比FF的更偏西。
忘记先问你用的grip了。
It
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: I wouldn't say that either. :) It was said by some coach, which I don't
: quite understand yet. Not sure which one is better open or close stance. It
: seems that FF always use close stance and hopping steps for short balls so
: that he can fluently comes to net.
:
: ,
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 20 i use semi western (a little toward extreme semi western)
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: 我是这么认为的， close stance 会有很多moving parts, 所以open stance 该更稳。
: 对于我来说，这个稳的gap 比较大，但对FF来说可能这稳的gap 不那么大， 并且我的
: grip 比FF的更偏西。
: 忘记先问你用的grip了。
:
: It
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 21 半侧跑吧，快到时最后碎步该是shuffle, 那时该完全侧过去，拍子早早就该举着了。
下次我注意一下。
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: 如果用Open stance的话，在setup之前你是怎么跑过去的，是正对着球往前跑，还是侧
: 对着球Shuffle的？
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 22 doesn't fed uses an Eastern forehand grip? If that's the case why model your
footwork after him. You should find someone who has similar grip, and model
after them.
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: i use semi western (a little toward extreme semi western)
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 23 Just googled, it seems that both Murray and Djokvic uses close stance for
short balls
Murray Short Ball
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWhmTo2dT0U
Djokvic Short Ball
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrEwPvhT3lU
your
model
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: doesn't fed uses an Eastern forehand grip? If that's the case why model your
: footwork after him. You should find someone who has similar grip, and model
: after them.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 24 At end of the day it should still be whatever you feel most comfortable with.
As I mentioned before, I was told by someone, that pros were taught to use
open stance. I had same skepticism at first cuz what I seen on TV and
youtube are mostly close stance. And when I first try to use open stance, it
's not as comfortable. But as I practiced more, I see the advantage of
having open stance. One way I look at is pro on TV are finished product with
complete package, we are not. And watching them train and practice is more
rewarding then watching the actual match (in term of technique).
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: Just googled, it seems that both Murray and Djokvic uses close stance for
: short balls
: Murray Short Ball
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWhmTo2dT0U
: Djokvic Short Ball
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrEwPvhT3lU
:
: your
: model
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 25 just to reiterate, my argument thesis is based on “稳”， if you can
achieve same level of “稳” or more “稳” with close stance, then close
stance is the way to go for you. For me open stance is more “稳”.
with.
it
with
more
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: At end of the day it should still be whatever you feel most comfortable with.
: As I mentioned before, I was told by someone, that pros were taught to use
: open stance. I had same skepticism at first cuz what I seen on TV and
: youtube are mostly close stance. And when I first try to use open stance, it
: 's not as comfortable. But as I practiced more, I see the advantage of
: having open stance. One way I look at is pro on TV are finished product with
: complete package, we are not. And watching them train and practice is more
: rewarding then watching the actual match (in term of technique).
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s*******t
发帖数: 2896 | 26 不是高手，没有体会。多看老费、格拉芙、纳豆，找个喜欢的动作copy就好。
【在 b*e 的大作中提到】
: 正手遇到短球是倒底用什么样的Footwork跑到最合适的位置去击球。是侧身Shuffle，
: 还是侧身Cross Over Shuffle？最后击球前是Close Stance Hopping step对不对？ 高
: 手们的有什么体会？
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r*********x
发帖数: 3016 | 27 I disagreed. Approach shot is offensive shot. Two advantage of close stance:
1. Control the ball easier and more steady.
2. Get to the net quicker
Open stance is suitable for baseline grinder to save 1 step to recover to
ready position.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】
: just to reiterate, my argument thesis is based on “稳”， if you can
: achieve same level of “稳” or more “稳” with close stance, then close
: stance is the way to go for you. For me open stance is more “稳”.
:
: with.
: it
: with
: more
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 28 I find if I can set an open stance an short shot, then I can hit a better
shot in term of angle, accuracy and margin. Close stand get me a more "
powerful" drive, and get me to the net quicker. But while getting to the net
quicker, i'm compensating accuracy and margin, the trade off doesn't work
well for me at 4.5.
All said, I have always been more comfortable with close stand on the short
ball, and had success in the past. But now I'm facing with tougher opponent,
the short coming are getting exposed and exploited. after a lot thinking,
analysis and research, I feel the solution for fix is open stance. (for me)
Maybe I will switch to the close stance in the future, but for now, open
stance is what I need to achieve. Kinda like practice serve, you don't have
to go directly to the finish product.
stance:
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】
: I disagreed. Approach shot is offensive shot. Two advantage of close stance:
: 1. Control the ball easier and more steady.
: 2. Get to the net quicker
: Open stance is suitable for baseline grinder to save 1 step to recover to
: ready position.
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T*********0
发帖数: 4816 | 29 我是从来没有去考虑这些。如果有小球了，只是尽快起步，赶到球的地点，用目光的余
光去看一眼对手的位置，及时做出去处理那个小球的办法。
能脚程快，及时赶到位，是最关键的了。但有时候，对自己的跑动太自信了，就不是很
玩命的去启动，认为自己应该能轻松赶到，反而会贻误一点时间。这是我的问题之一。
stance:
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】
: I disagreed. Approach shot is offensive shot. Two advantage of close stance:
: 1. Control the ball easier and more steady.
: 2. Get to the net quicker
: Open stance is suitable for baseline grinder to save 1 step to recover to
: ready position.
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 30 嗯，你处理短球挺好的。你的挥拍动作很compact, 小臂又超壮，很多你可以打好的球
不见得其他人可以。
【在 T*********0 的大作中提到】
: 我是从来没有去考虑这些。如果有小球了，只是尽快起步，赶到球的地点，用目光的余
: 光去看一眼对手的位置，及时做出去处理那个小球的办法。
: 能脚程快，及时赶到位，是最关键的了。但有时候，对自己的跑动太自信了，就不是很
: 玩命的去启动，认为自己应该能轻松赶到，反而会贻误一点时间。这是我的问题之一。
:
: stance:
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