y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 1 I do not know. My luck is so bad on 35$ level super turbo sng.
Only 179 games, lose 1800+ usd. Average: -10bucks per game.
This month, I only played 179 games on 35$ level
(To be honest, I dare not to play that game a lot. Since I can play 300
games easily in a day, but with -10$/game, how can I dare to play? :< )
I check my play, it seems normal. But the result is so horrible. They shove
on me, I call with best hand, it always lose.
When I shoves, they call with Ace rag on the bubble(, which is a huge
mistake), but they always win. | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 2 I do not like to call allin on the bubble. But they shove on me, and stack
size setup means I can not fold, I am sure I have 60% equity at least.
Stupid enough, I can not win those flips at all.
shove
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: I do not know. My luck is so bad on 35$ level super turbo sng.
: Only 179 games, lose 1800+ usd. Average: -10bucks per game.
: This month, I only played 179 games on 35$ level
: (To be honest, I dare not to play that game a lot. Since I can play 300
: games easily in a day, but with -10$/game, how can I dare to play? :< )
: I check my play, it seems normal. But the result is so horrible. They shove
: on me, I call with best hand, it always lose.
: When I shoves, they call with Ace rag on the bubble(, which is a huge
: mistake), but they always win.
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 3 normal!
我一开始打10刀的也是这样，后来就上来了，回头我贴个数据给你
我的BR开始也打20刀了
shove
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: I do not know. My luck is so bad on 35$ level super turbo sng.
: Only 179 games, lose 1800+ usd. Average: -10bucks per game.
: This month, I only played 179 games on 35$ level
: (To be honest, I dare not to play that game a lot. Since I can play 300
: games easily in a day, but with -10$/game, how can I dare to play? :< )
: I check my play, it seems normal. But the result is so horrible. They shove
: on me, I call with best hand, it always lose.
: When I shoves, they call with Ace rag on the bubble(, which is a huge
: mistake), but they always win.
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 4 对一个在bubble shove 50%的人，拿了A5+就call他，
6个人的bubble factor比9个人的bubble factor要小啊
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: I do not like to call allin on the bubble. But they shove on me, and stack
: size setup means I can not fold, I am sure I have 60% equity at least.
: Stupid enough, I can not win those flips at all.
:
: shove
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 5 这都是6-handed的
$10一开始500场有一个700$的downswing，这个月给我打回来了
另外我发现HM的pre-flop all-in概率算的不准，EV-line不能作为标准
shove
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: I do not know. My luck is so bad on 35$ level super turbo sng.
: Only 179 games, lose 1800+ usd. Average: -10bucks per game.
: This month, I only played 179 games on 35$ level
: (To be honest, I dare not to play that game a lot. Since I can play 300
: games easily in a day, but with -10$/game, how can I dare to play? :< )
: I check my play, it seems normal. But the result is so horrible. They shove
: on me, I call with best hand, it always lose.
: When I shoves, they call with Ace rag on the bubble(, which is a huge
: mistake), but they always win.
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 6 I only call with A8+, 77+.
To be honest, the bubble is huge. Considering we will get 73$ just into the
money, if we lose 2 bubbles in one hour, it is pretty huge.
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 对一个在bubble shove 50%的人，拿了A5+就call他，
: 6个人的bubble factor比9个人的bubble factor要小啊
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 7 From my experience, this game is all by fold equity. The less show down
wining, the better.
But my shoving gets called a lot, which is not good for me and the caller.
They shove on me, I hate to call them, but I just have the hand. I have to
call, but lose a ton.
Comparing my result on 20$ level, I do not encounter so many callers,(which means I can scoop the blinds without SD) and I do not need to handle so much shovers(, which means I do not need to call them).
At 35$ level, I have 25% 3rd finishes, which is really abnormal.
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 对一个在bubble shove 50%的人，拿了A5+就call他，
: 6个人的bubble factor比9个人的bubble factor要小啊
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 8 Should be very close. They use the ICM, changing your stack to the money
value.
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 这都是6-handed的
: $10一开始500场有一个700$的downswing，这个月给我打回来了
: 另外我发现HM的pre-flop all-in概率算的不准，EV-line不能作为标准
:
: shove
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 9
Maybe they know your shoving range by HM. Try different strategy on BvB
situation.
This is quite normal, you have to call because you get edges by calling
their light shove.
I still recommend the calling allin range by superturbosngtips.com. It
indeed improves my ROI by calling light shove. You will be amazing to see
how light those fishes are pushing. For example, A rag in early position or
KQ, KJ etc.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: From my experience, this game is all by fold equity. The less show down
: wining, the better.
: But my shoving gets called a lot, which is not good for me and the caller.
: They shove on me, I hate to call them, but I just have the hand. I have to
: call, but lose a ton.
: Comparing my result on 20$ level, I do not encounter so many callers,(which means I can scoop the blinds without SD) and I do not need to handle so much shovers(, which means I do not need to call them).
: At 35$ level, I have 25% 3rd finishes, which is really abnormal.
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 10 ICM公式没有错，但是allin概率算的有错
我查过几个比如A2 vs KQ, 他们算的概率大概是65 vs 35
有一些错误
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: Should be very close. They use the ICM, changing your stack to the money
: value.
| | | s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 11 还有一个问题是他们会算出来比赛的EV是负的
我认为最低也应该是0 ，你最多最多也就是输掉这个buy-in
这也是一个bug
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: ICM公式没有错，但是allin概率算的有错
: 我查过几个比如A2 vs KQ, 他们算的概率大概是65 vs 35
: 有一些错误
| p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 12
what is the long term ROI can you guys get to play Super tubo SNG? For ST
HUSNG, a decent player can get about 5% roi on middle stake(35-100) level.
Considering the speed the of the game, it is quite profitable. I ave 2.9 min
a game, so it is not hard to get around 70-100 game per day.
【在 s*******o 的大作中提到】
: 还有一个问题是他们会算出来比赛的EV是负的
: 我认为最低也应该是0 ，你最多最多也就是输掉这个buy-in
: 这也是一个bug
| s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 13 If I can achieve 5% for 6-handed ST SNG, I would earn a lot of money......
For $10 buy-ins, I can only achieve around $15/h by 6 tabling.
I can also get more than $5/h from rakeback.
min
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
:
: what is the long term ROI can you guys get to play Super tubo SNG? For ST
: HUSNG, a decent player can get about 5% roi on middle stake(35-100) level.
: Considering the speed the of the game, it is quite profitable. I ave 2.9 min
: a game, so it is not hard to get around 70-100 game per day.
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 14 Depend on buyin level a lot.
I guess 5% ROI on 20$ level is possible.
if you can get 5% ROI on 35$ level, it is a lot of money. I believe it is
achievable.
if you can get 3% ROI on 150$ ABI(,or 2% ROI on 200$ ABI), then you are top
10 SNG player
If you play st sng, it is very possible to have 400 games a day.
There is a huge variance in this game, you can lose 400-700$ easily one hour
on 35$ level game.
One player whose ID is Jiaolong, I check his results before, around last
July, his ABI is 50$, total profit is around 30K in 3 months. Nowadays, he
hides his stats, but my software can still show his results.
He played 48000 games, average profit is 3.5$. I suppose he starts to play
from May, 2010.
min
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】
:
: what is the long term ROI can you guys get to play Super tubo SNG? For ST
: HUSNG, a decent player can get about 5% roi on middle stake(35-100) level.
: Considering the speed the of the game, it is quite profitable. I ave 2.9 min
: a game, so it is not hard to get around 70-100 game per day.
| L****n
发帖数: 490 | 15 Yeah, super turbo 6 max is sick.
I guess if your call is too tight on the bubble, the regulars would exploit
you by shoving wider than he normally would. | s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 16 Did you play some 20$ game this month?
Which ID you use to play?
top
hour
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: Depend on buyin level a lot.
: I guess 5% ROI on 20$ level is possible.
: if you can get 5% ROI on 35$ level, it is a lot of money. I believe it is
: achievable.
: if you can get 3% ROI on 150$ ABI(,or 2% ROI on 200$ ABI), then you are top
: 10 SNG player
: If you play st sng, it is very possible to have 400 games a day.
: There is a huge variance in this game, you can lose 400-700$ easily one hour
: on 35$ level game.
: One player whose ID is Jiaolong, I check his results before, around last
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