s*********r 发帖数: 4210 | 1 Live 1-2 game, EP Indian guy, MP While old American, LP some foreign semi-
pro looking guy. EP raise to 15, MP reaise to 50, LP calls. EP all in with
89 total, MP and LP call. Flop 2,3,5 with a flush draw. MP bet ~80. LP
tanked and folded. MP showed 4,6us.
至少有两个离奇的地方: MP raised and call with 46us, 和LP folded after flop.
what hand could you have to call all-in pre flop but fold to 2, 3, 5 flop. |
W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 2 这牌一点也不离奇for LP。。。LP has KQ KJ type of hand. |
f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 3 1) i do this sometimes now, hehe, well, something like 78s, raise to $12 and
call $30-35, $50 is a little too high.
2) 2 high cards like AK.
with
flop.
flop.
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】 : Live 1-2 game, EP Indian guy, MP While old American, LP some foreign semi- : pro looking guy. EP raise to 15, MP reaise to 50, LP calls. EP all in with : 89 total, MP and LP call. Flop 2,3,5 with a flush draw. MP bet ~80. LP : tanked and folded. MP showed 4,6us. : 至少有两个离奇的地方: MP raised and call with 46us, 和LP folded after flop. : what hand could you have to call all-in pre flop but fold to 2, 3, 5 flop.
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s*********r 发帖数: 4210 | 4 good point. I guess good/better players has wider range of hands for preflop
play. Here is another hand, live 2-5 game. EP1 raise to 15, MP1 reraise
to 45, I am MP2 with KQs, called. EP1 reraise to 140, mp1 fold. I called.
Flop K small small, no draw. EP1 bet 150. What should I do? |
s**h 发帖数: 262 | 5 fold pre.
as played, fold on the flop, raising to 15 then four-bet is screaming
strength in live 2/5NL.
preflop
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【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】 : good point. I guess good/better players has wider range of hands for preflop : play. Here is another hand, live 2-5 game. EP1 raise to 15, MP1 reraise : to 45, I am MP2 with KQs, called. EP1 reraise to 140, mp1 fold. I called. : Flop K small small, no draw. EP1 bet 150. What should I do?
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 6 U are fucked more often than u are good. Should fold after the first reraise preflop. |
d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | |
W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 8 don't laugh. he could turn over 45s too. but I stand correct. |
s*******o 发帖数: 4896 | 9 I would directly fold KQs when a raiser and a 3-bet isolation ahead of me.
I even fold AKo sometimes in 6 max
preflop
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【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】 : good point. I guess good/better players has wider range of hands for preflop : play. Here is another hand, live 2-5 game. EP1 raise to 15, MP1 reraise : to 45, I am MP2 with KQs, called. EP1 reraise to 140, mp1 fold. I called. : Flop K small small, no draw. EP1 bet 150. What should I do?
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d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 10 不是我们天生weak tight,是cstation和donk make us like this。。。lol |
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p*******p 发帖数: 13670 | 11 no, u r nature
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】 : 不是我们天生weak tight,是cstation和donk make us like this。。。lol
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | |
f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 13 no, weak loose, lol.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : 老中都是weak tight..
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s*********r 发帖数: 4210 | 14 he could, but I didn't even go that way. I folded with my last couple
stacks and left for home.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : don't laugh. he could turn over 45s too. but I stand correct.
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s*********r 发帖数: 4210 | 15 all serious, things I observed from live 2-5 games.
好象,call preflop reraise 的range 更广。call 20-25的有很多是suite,
connected, mid Aces. 在1-2的桌上这种情况要少。
pod odds多数时候是不够的。 flush,straigt draws的大多都不够,最多1:4。
太多agrression的时候,对手跑了。太少agression的时候,让人给river。千万不要低
头一路跑到黑,时不时要抬头看看情况。
一定要改良第一代老中的weak loose 的形象。
一定要心平气和。 |
W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 16 i don't think I made myself clear. preflop is a fold to 45. but i will call
flop.
If you only have 200$ left, I would commit. If you have 700 left behind, call and reevaluate turn.
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】 : he could, but I didn't even go that way. I folded with my last couple : stacks and left for home.
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 17 你这牌打得比你original post 里的lp 更离奇。 you played well. but he was a little better.
Preflop call reraise--equally good.
call 4 bet preflop--your call is good. his call is slithgly better.
fold to flop bet--your fold is good. His fold is better.
However I don't like either play. I would have played every street exactly opposit with your hand preflop and post-flop..
EDIT so it sounds Grrreeeaaat~~~ |
s*********r 发帖数: 4210 | 18 you are right, I should not call the 4 bet preflop. playing 2-5 live game
is a new thing to me. but I didn't play worse as you suggested. |
p****r 发帖数: 9164 | 19
Come on, do not be so critical to other ppl's play. Everybody has own
understanding to the game, plus everybody here is learning the game.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】 : 你这牌打得比你original post 里的lp 更离奇。 you played well. but he was a little better. : Preflop call reraise--equally good. : call 4 bet preflop--your call is good. his call is slithgly better. : fold to flop bet--your fold is good. His fold is better. : However I don't like either play. I would have played every street exactly opposit with your hand preflop and post-flop.. : EDIT so it sounds Grrreeeaaat~~~
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 20 how do you like my edit? lol
own
【在 p****r 的大作中提到】 : : Come on, do not be so critical to other ppl's play. Everybody has own : understanding to the game, plus everybody here is learning the game.
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s*********r 发帖数: 4210 | 21 so you would either fold preflop or call the flop bet for my hand. I like
you suggestion. However there is one thing you are wrong about. I don't try
to compare my play with the LP from the first hand. two independent events
. First hand is 离奇 to me because the I saw it happened first time in live
actions. I know I played the second hand badly, just as a discussion point
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 22 these two hands are very similar in my opinion.
I also listed the difference I feel in my previous post, which is why i think some of his action is slightly better than yours. |
s*********r 发帖数: 4210 | 23 fair enough. I would take you suggestion into consideration next time to
live game. I don't agree with what you felt. |
d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 24 all about stack size and guts
just enjoy the playing, let pros QU SI... HEHE |