L**o
发帖数: 353 | 1 one limper,I made it 8 to go. BB,a LAG call. 3 way,flop qc7c6s,
check to me, 15,only BB call. Turn 8h,both check.
river q,BB led 20, I made it to 60 with 77.
BB instantly made 200 on top. Both had 700 left.
what should I do now? |
L**o
发帖数: 353 | 2 Just played this one at 1,2 table
【在 L**o 的大作中提到】
: one limper,I made it 8 to go. BB,a LAG call. 3 way,flop qc7c6s,
: check to me, 15,only BB call. Turn 8h,both check.
: river q,BB led 20, I made it to 60 with 77.
: BB instantly made 200 on top. Both had 700 left.
: what should I do now?
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 3 if he is really bad, I would shove. If he is decent, reraise 200 more and
fold to a reshove all in.
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 L**o 的大作中提到】
: one limper,I made it 8 to go. BB,a LAG call. 3 way,flop qc7c6s,
: check to me, 15,only BB call. Turn 8h,both check.
: river q,BB led 20, I made it to 60 with 77.
: BB instantly made 200 on top. Both had 700 left.
: what should I do now?
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 why check turn behind? not only you lose value, you also fail to define
villain's hand range without turn action.
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 L**o 的大作中提到】
: one limper,I made it 8 to go. BB,a LAG call. 3 way,flop qc7c6s,
: check to me, 15,only BB call. Turn 8h,both check.
: river q,BB led 20, I made it to 60 with 77.
: BB instantly made 200 on top. Both had 700 left.
: what should I do now?
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c*********6
发帖数: 103 | 5 Just call
I think he got straight on the turn.
It matches his play.
我可能考虑直接shove了，不过还是call吧，以防万一。 |
L**o
发帖数: 353 | 6 Good point
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: why check turn behind? not only you lose value, you also fail to define
: villain's hand range without turn action.
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
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c*********6
发帖数: 103 | |
d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 8 good lag or say ABC player won't reraise here without full house, if your
own image is not that crazy. i would just crying call or fold, since the
hands that you beat (66+some fancy play) is much less than the hands that
beat you.
Unlike MM LAOSHI's reraise, i wouldn't raise/fold here, since the more
action here the represented range gets more narrow. not really much value to
get from worse hands |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 老湿，哥没看错吧？！！
"reraise 200 more and fold to a reshove all in"... wtf is this?
Both had 700 left, 也就是说花8+15+60+200+200=$483，然后fold，留着300回家睡觉
？？？
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: if he is really bad, I would shove. If he is decent, reraise 200 more and
: fold to a reshove all in.
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 10 表示同不理解老湿的思路，求解。
to
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: good lag or say ABC player won't reraise here without full house, if your
: own image is not that crazy. i would just crying call or fold, since the
: hands that you beat (66+some fancy play) is much less than the hands that
: beat you.
: Unlike MM LAOSHI's reraise, i wouldn't raise/fold here, since the more
: action here the represented range gets more narrow. not really much value to
: get from worse hands
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 11 1k$ stack effective. reraise 200. still 500 left behind. 500bb stack.
he said after the raise 700$ more left no?
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 老湿，哥没看错吧？！！
: "reraise 200 more and fold to a reshove all in"... wtf is this?
: Both had 700 left, 也就是说花8+15+60+200+200=$483，然后fold，留着300回家睡觉
: ？？？
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 12 打回去重读，剩700，但是他还没call人家的$200 raise呢。
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 1k$ stack effective. reraise 200. still 500 left behind. 500bb stack.
: he said after the raise 700$ more left no?
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 13 这牌貌似QdXd，boat了，LAG也少有拿AQ/KQ preflop装老实，flop上不bet，river上又狂
乱的情况。
call一把就完事了。
to
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】
: good lag or say ABC player won't reraise here without full house, if your
: own image is not that crazy. i would just crying call or fold, since the
: hands that you beat (66+some fancy play) is much less than the hands that
: beat you.
: Unlike MM LAOSHI's reraise, i wouldn't raise/fold here, since the more
: action here the represented range gets more narrow. not really much value to
: get from worse hands
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 14 700$ 就shove 吧。
if you think about it, you really only lose to Q8, they probably raise most
flop with 2 pairs. but you beat many trip Q good kicker and many stupid
straight possibilities. since 1/2 are mostly fish pond. i would shove on
most cases 250-300bb deep. 500bb would be a bit too deep. i am worried
that he would fold trip Q or straight on a paired board, but this might
even be overthinking vs most fishes.
这牌最大的错误就是check turn behind....
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 打回去重读，剩700，但是他还没call人家的$200 raise呢。
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 15 这牌， 估摸着别最后翻过牌来， 发现对手结果不是lag....
同时hero 自己形象也没有说。 如果是个rock 形象就call 一下算了。。。
most
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 700$ 就shove 吧。
: if you think about it, you really only lose to Q8, they probably raise most
: flop with 2 pairs. but you beat many trip Q good kicker and many stupid
: straight possibilities. since 1/2 are mostly fish pond. i would shove on
: most cases 250-300bb deep. 500bb would be a bit too deep. i am worried
: that he would fold trip Q or straight on a paired board, but this might
: even be overthinking vs most fishes.
: 这牌最大的错误就是check turn behind....
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 16 river上鸟人lead $20肯定是强的，知道hero至少会call。
看人这牌打的，比那个毛驴谁river bet $65 with 2nd nuts，eligible for bad beat
，强太多了，呵呵，局面多类似啊。
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 这牌， 估摸着别最后翻过牌来， 发现对手结果不是lag....
: 同时hero 自己形象也没有说。 如果是个rock 形象就call 一下算了。。。
:
: most
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L**o
发帖数: 353 | 17 这牌没那么复杂，lag应该会bet on every street if he hit big. 我秒call,他是96s
。被我raise突然不爽，想bluff
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 这牌， 估摸着别最后翻过牌来， 发现对手结果不是lag....
: 同时hero 自己形象也没有说。 如果是个rock 形象就call 一下算了。。。
:
: most
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z******n
发帖数: 8851 | 18 I would just call the reraise...agree, on the turn LZ should bet $30 to $45
to find out where you stand. |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 19 这牌歪打正着反而赢多了。
这villian 的river raise 其实打得不错啊, 看来打老中weak tight 还是很有心得的
。 你这里turn check 后river raise 一般看来最多就是个trip Q good kicker. 而他
有很多straight 在里面，还有他根本没法rep 的一些boat. 这个raise 基本上可以把
一般老中的AQ 都捶飞了。 没想到碰到你的top top range. 和这样的villian 玩，我
的心得就是永远记住哥的忠言：“别丢老中的脸！”
96s
【在 L**o 的大作中提到】
: 这牌没那么复杂，lag应该会bet on every street if he hit big. 我秒call,他是96s
: 。被我raise突然不爽，想bluff
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