a**x 发帖数: 215 | 1 pls give some comments/advice on driving experience. thx
we have kids, dont drive much, 22k ml on our current x5 for 4+ yrs. thinking
about getting a pre-owned cayenne.
some friends suggest to get a sedan, say m3, about same price as cayenne for
pre-owned model, say 50k fro 2009 model. havent decided yet. like corvette
a lot, but only 2 seats, need a 4-seater.
i know im comparing two very different animals here, ur input is welcome.
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D*******a 发帖数: 3688 | 2 does your wife/kids want to sit in the M3?
thinking
for
corvette
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : pls give some comments/advice on driving experience. thx : we have kids, dont drive much, 22k ml on our current x5 for 4+ yrs. thinking : about getting a pre-owned cayenne. : some friends suggest to get a sedan, say m3, about same price as cayenne for : pre-owned model, say 50k fro 2009 model. havent decided yet. like corvette : a lot, but only 2 seats, need a 4-seater. : i know im comparing two very different animals here, ur input is welcome. : thx in advance
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 3 no, my wife drive it
kids in the back shud be ok, no?
anyway, that is why i am more towards a cayenne
i once tried a 5 series, hard for me to get in and out. x5 is much easier.
maybe i just need to loose some weight
【在 D*******a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : does your wife/kids want to sit in the M3? : : thinking : for : corvette
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f********m 发帖数: 8397 | 4 hard to imagine why your wife is interested in a M3. Cayenne base model is
not that interesting. I would try a X5 35d.
thinking
for
corvette
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : pls give some comments/advice on driving experience. thx : we have kids, dont drive much, 22k ml on our current x5 for 4+ yrs. thinking : about getting a pre-owned cayenne. : some friends suggest to get a sedan, say m3, about same price as cayenne for : pre-owned model, say 50k fro 2009 model. havent decided yet. like corvette : a lot, but only 2 seats, need a 4-seater. : i know im comparing two very different animals here, ur input is welcome. : thx in advance
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b*******s 发帖数: 2279 | 5 搞不懂为啥要上cayenne?你会发现上了cayenne没有比你的X5好, 驾驶的感觉很有可能
变差如果你适应了BMW的操纵感觉.
或者问,你是考虑第二辆车? 如果是第二辆车,你应该上M3,驾驶更有乐趣. |
T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 6 not much diff between x5 and cayenne unless you go for cayenne turbo
how about pamamera which is more fun to drive than cayenne |
T******g 发帖数: 21328 | |
d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 8 可以看看Charger srt8如果喜欢vette这种大v8的话...或者看看audi s4都是可以用旧m3价格买
新的
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 9 千万别买X5 35d
发动机的噪声大得一塌糊涂,动力也不咋地
【在 f********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hard to imagine why your wife is interested in a M3. Cayenne base model is : not that interesting. I would try a X5 35d. : : thinking : for : corvette
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 10 这代cayenne应该是比X5要好开的
X5太肥了.
【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 搞不懂为啥要上cayenne?你会发现上了cayenne没有比你的X5好, 驾驶的感觉很有可能 : 变差如果你适应了BMW的操纵感觉. : 或者问,你是考虑第二辆车? 如果是第二辆车,你应该上M3,驾驶更有乐趣.
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d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 11 对x5 35i出来之后没有理由买35d了...美国柴油又贼贵
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 千万别买X5 35d : 发动机的噪声大得一塌糊涂,动力也不咋地
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D*****I 发帖数: 8268 | 12 get cayenne s
suit your needs better
thinking
for
corvette
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : pls give some comments/advice on driving experience. thx : we have kids, dont drive much, 22k ml on our current x5 for 4+ yrs. thinking : about getting a pre-owned cayenne. : some friends suggest to get a sedan, say m3, about same price as cayenne for : pre-owned model, say 50k fro 2009 model. havent decided yet. like corvette : a lot, but only 2 seats, need a 4-seater. : i know im comparing two very different animals here, ur input is welcome. : thx in advance
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 13 she is interested in mini cooper, but i cannot sit in that thing
【在 f********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hard to imagine why your wife is interested in a M3. Cayenne base model is : not that interesting. I would try a X5 35d. : : thinking : for : corvette
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 14 y, second one
that is why some friend recommend a sedan
x5 handling is pretty smooth
【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 搞不懂为啥要上cayenne?你会发现上了cayenne没有比你的X5好, 驾驶的感觉很有可能 : 变差如果你适应了BMW的操纵感觉. : 或者问,你是考虑第二辆车? 如果是第二辆车,你应该上M3,驾驶更有乐趣.
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 15 panamera is out of my range,
we drove 22k in 4 yrs, go to cayenne turbo is ...
well, i guess there is no easy balance
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : not much diff between x5 and cayenne unless you go for cayenne turbo : how about pamamera which is more fun to drive than cayenne
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 16 for "this generation" u mean 2011 or 2012?
for pre-owned, im mostly checking 2009ish
btw, for a family with kids (notice the plural here) the chubby x5 does has
its utility. when i first shopped around our first car, i call porsche
dealer and asked if they had 7-seater ....
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这代cayenne应该是比X5要好开的 : X5太肥了.
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 17 just checked charger srt8, sorry, it is not my dish
旧m3价格买
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 可以看看Charger srt8如果喜欢vette这种大v8的话...或者看看audi s4都是可以用旧m3价格买 : 新的 : 如果你喜欢vette我很难想象你会喜欢开cayenne
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 18 go for cayenne s.
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : panamera is out of my range, : we drove 22k in 4 yrs, go to cayenne turbo is ... : well, i guess there is no easy balance
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 19 2011.之前的我不太确定了.
这代X5确实装东西方便空间也大,反过来也就不如一代好开,虽然马力大了不少:)
has
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : for "this generation" u mean 2011 or 2012? : for pre-owned, im mostly checking 2009ish : btw, for a family with kids (notice the plural here) the chubby x5 does has : its utility. when i first shopped around our first car, i call porsche : dealer and asked if they had 7-seater ....
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f********m 发帖数: 8397 | 20 mini cooper is pretty fun. try that!
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : she is interested in mini cooper, but i cannot sit in that thing
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p********e 发帖数: 16048 | 21 why?
【在 f********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : mini cooper is pretty fun. try that!
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a**i 发帖数: 7261 | 22 操控不错,空间也不差
【在 p********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : why?
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b*******s 发帖数: 2279 | 23
has
你现在的X5开起来肯定好于上一代Cayenne. 如果是7seater, 可以上LR4.
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : for "this generation" u mean 2011 or 2012? : for pre-owned, im mostly checking 2009ish : btw, for a family with kids (notice the plural here) the chubby x5 does has : its utility. when i first shopped around our first car, i call porsche : dealer and asked if they had 7-seater ....
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 24 really? the x5 i have is 2007, not the very first generation
i already rule out 7seater
【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : has : 你现在的X5开起来肯定好于上一代Cayenne. 如果是7seater, 可以上LR4.
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b*******s 发帖数: 2279 | 25
最好的方法是去开一下, 我试驾过09的cayenne, 同样也开过35d/35i. BMW的操纵好不
少. 你自己得出的结论最重要 :)
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : really? the x5 i have is 2007, not the very first generation : i already rule out 7seater
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 26 一代凯宴比X5重很多,同档次的可能公路性能差一些。不过有不少优点,比方带空气悬
挂和差速锁越野性很不错,非常安全,towing能力很强
如果让我再选的话,我会选二代凯宴(轻很多),再搞个truck兼顾越野和拖车 |
a**i 发帖数: 7261 | 27 你拖车很多吗?
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 一代凯宴比X5重很多,同档次的可能公路性能差一些。不过有不少优点,比方带空气悬 : 挂和差速锁越野性很不错,非常安全,towing能力很强 : 如果让我再选的话,我会选二代凯宴(轻很多),再搞个truck兼顾越野和拖车
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 29 貌似从技术指标上看还是Cayenne Turbo最好啊
不过要我选,我不会选Cayenne,可能我是外貌协会的吧……
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个review不错 : http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1108_2011_bmw_x5_2012_
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F*********r 发帖数: 68 | 30 If you don't need AWD or a lot of space to haul stuff,
get a M3.
The experience of driving between the two are night and ay.
How old are your kids? We use a M3 coupe as a family car, and we have
no problems with it.
thinking
for
corvette
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : pls give some comments/advice on driving experience. thx : we have kids, dont drive much, 22k ml on our current x5 for 4+ yrs. thinking : about getting a pre-owned cayenne. : some friends suggest to get a sedan, say m3, about same price as cayenne for : pre-owned model, say 50k fro 2009 model. havent decided yet. like corvette : a lot, but only 2 seats, need a 4-seater. : i know im comparing two very different animals here, ur input is welcome. : thx in advance
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 31
10,5,1
can two car seats fit in m3 backroll? and leave enough space for a third
person?
【在 F*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : If you don't need AWD or a lot of space to haul stuff, : get a M3. : The experience of driving between the two are night and ay. : How old are your kids? We use a M3 coupe as a family car, and we have : no problems with it. : : thinking : for : corvette
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F*********r 发帖数: 68 | 32
Depends on the size of the seats.
For the sedan, maybe, for the coupe, I highly doubt it.
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 10,5,1 : can two car seats fit in m3 backroll? and leave enough space for a third : person?
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z****r 发帖数: 183 | 33 实在要选M3的话,记得选sedan,选上EDC,不然标准悬挂太硬
我自己开的是M3 E93,老婆不喜欢,因为悬挂太硬。试开过Cayenne,不觉得比旧的08
35i号多少。要上Cayenne的话就S或者Turbo,最近我换SUV的过程中,试开过很多(不
包括Cayenne Turbo,觉得没必要,因为是老婆开的),最终觉得作为城市开的话,X5
50i最好,开起来感觉路感最好,向小车。
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : no, my wife drive it : kids in the back shud be ok, no? : anyway, that is why i am more towards a cayenne : i once tried a 5 series, hard for me to get in and out. x5 is much easier. : maybe i just need to loose some weight
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d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 34 要我的话肯定gc srt8,省下来的钱买辆cayman s
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 貌似从技术指标上看还是Cayenne Turbo最好啊 : 不过要我选,我不会选Cayenne,可能我是外貌协会的吧……
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 35 我也选GC SRT8,但要等换8AT:)
不过貌似Cayenne Turbo和GC SRT8的差价买不了Cayman S吧?而且有这个钱我就上
Vette GS了
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 要我的话肯定gc srt8,省下来的钱买辆cayman s
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 36 现在已经没有M3 Sedan新车了吧
08
X5
【在 z****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 实在要选M3的话,记得选sedan,选上EDC,不然标准悬挂太硬 : 我自己开的是M3 E93,老婆不喜欢,因为悬挂太硬。试开过Cayenne,不觉得比旧的08 : 35i号多少。要上Cayenne的话就S或者Turbo,最近我换SUV的过程中,试开过很多(不 : 包括Cayenne Turbo,觉得没必要,因为是老婆开的),最终觉得作为城市开的话,X5 : 50i最好,开起来感觉路感最好,向小车。
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d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 37 我也在等这个8at被用上challenger srt8
我就毛姑姑觉得他们差6万左右好像可以搞裸体的cayman s哈哈
说到vette最近motor trend的一篇vette vs. carrera s不知道碳大看到没有,把vette
贬得像屎一样的说carrera虽然价格翻倍但是车子好十倍...
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_2012_
chevrolet_corvette_grand_sport_coupe_vs_2012_porsche_
911_carrera_s_comparison/viewall.html
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也选GC SRT8,但要等换8AT:) : 不过貌似Cayenne Turbo和GC SRT8的差价买不了Cayman S吧?而且有这个钱我就上 : Vette GS了
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 38 看侧重点吧,如果看重refinement,那991肯定比C6强得多,但未必每个人非要看重这个
如果单说性能,991 CS比C6 GS强也有限,价格还贵多了
btw
R&T最近有篇文章是Vette的全家大比武,你看过没?
vette
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也在等这个8at被用上challenger srt8 : 我就毛姑姑觉得他们差6万左右好像可以搞裸体的cayman s哈哈 : 说到vette最近motor trend的一篇vette vs. carrera s不知道碳大看到没有,把vette : 贬得像屎一样的说carrera虽然价格翻倍但是车子好十倍... : http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_2012_ : chevrolet_corvette_grand_sport_coupe_vs_2012_porsche_ : 911_carrera_s_comparison/viewall.html
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d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 39 看过了,非常不错。。那么多黑颜色的vette在一起很有气势
我把六辆车的1/4 mile成绩截图了哈哈
这个
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看侧重点吧,如果看重refinement,那991肯定比C6强得多,但未必每个人非要看重这个 : 如果单说性能,991 CS比C6 GS强也有限,价格还贵多了 : btw : R&T最近有篇文章是Vette的全家大比武,你看过没? : : vette
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 40 50i选sports/m sports pkg没?没选的话感觉还是有些过软啊
我的感觉是,加了sports pkg的X5大概跟没加的这代5系(已经略偏软但还没糟糕到不能
接受)
基本相当,算是个够用而且舒适性能接受的选择吧.
没sports pkg的话高速换lane时稍微激进点儿body roll就很明显让人没信心
感觉软的过分了.
08
X5
【在 z****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 实在要选M3的话,记得选sedan,选上EDC,不然标准悬挂太硬 : 我自己开的是M3 E93,老婆不喜欢,因为悬挂太硬。试开过Cayenne,不觉得比旧的08 : 35i号多少。要上Cayenne的话就S或者Turbo,最近我换SUV的过程中,试开过很多(不 : 包括Cayenne Turbo,觉得没必要,因为是老婆开的),最终觉得作为城市开的话,X5 : 50i最好,开起来感觉路感最好,向小车。
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 41 现在30-35k能买到啥水准的vette?有了解不?:D
vette
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也在等这个8at被用上challenger srt8 : 我就毛姑姑觉得他们差6万左右好像可以搞裸体的cayman s哈哈 : 说到vette最近motor trend的一篇vette vs. carrera s不知道碳大看到没有,把vette : 贬得像屎一样的说carrera虽然价格翻倍但是车子好十倍... : http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_2012_ : chevrolet_corvette_grand_sport_coupe_vs_2012_porsche_ : 911_carrera_s_comparison/viewall.html
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d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 42 现在40k出头可以买新的base vette, 30-35k的话应该可以买到09-10年的base..或者再
稍微加点40k左右可以搞06年的z06, 505hp 7.0L v8~~~
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 现在30-35k能买到啥水准的vette?有了解不?:D : : vette
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 43 这玩意爱坏不?:D
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 现在40k出头可以买新的base vette, 30-35k的话应该可以买到09-10年的base..或者再 : 稍微加点40k左右可以搞06年的z06, 505hp 7.0L v8~~~
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V***b 发帖数: 3419 | 44 1-car solution: X5
2-car solution: GL + M3
3-car solution: ESV + X5 + 911
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d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 45 这个我说不准了...我大半年用下来倒没坏过东西.
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这玩意爱坏不?:D
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 46 我也看了,基本就是说路况稍微不好,vette就歇菜。traction够的时候vette还行
vette
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也在等这个8at被用上challenger srt8 : 我就毛姑姑觉得他们差6万左右好像可以搞裸体的cayman s哈哈 : 说到vette最近motor trend的一篇vette vs. carrera s不知道碳大看到没有,把vette : 贬得像屎一样的说carrera虽然价格翻倍但是车子好十倍... : http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_2012_ : chevrolet_corvette_grand_sport_coupe_vs_2012_porsche_ : 911_carrera_s_comparison/viewall.html
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D*****I 发帖数: 8268 | 47 基本上在很大的一个区间价格翻倍都能好10倍吧,按照他们那个10倍来说。。
vette
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也在等这个8at被用上challenger srt8 : 我就毛姑姑觉得他们差6万左右好像可以搞裸体的cayman s哈哈 : 说到vette最近motor trend的一篇vette vs. carrera s不知道碳大看到没有,把vette : 贬得像屎一样的说carrera虽然价格翻倍但是车子好十倍... : http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_2012_ : chevrolet_corvette_grand_sport_coupe_vs_2012_porsche_ : 911_carrera_s_comparison/viewall.html
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 48 印象中Vette的可靠性一直都不错的
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这玩意爱坏不?:D
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z****r 发帖数: 183 | 49 选了sport package,具体配置搜前面的文章说了。x50i sport pakage驾驶感很好,马
力也够。
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 50i选sports/m sports pkg没?没选的话感觉还是有些过软啊 : 我的感觉是,加了sports pkg的X5大概跟没加的这代5系(已经略偏软但还没糟糕到不能 : 接受) : 基本相当,算是个够用而且舒适性能接受的选择吧. : 没sports pkg的话高速换lane时稍微激进点儿body roll就很明显让人没信心 : 感觉软的过分了. : : 08 : X5
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z****r 发帖数: 183 | 50 To me:
1-car solution: M5
2-car: X5 50i+ M3 E93. You've got to have a split mindset driving between GL
and M3.
3-car: high-end: X5M + Boxster roadster S + 911 Gt3 RS; low-end: X5 50i +
Exige + Gt-R. Dream: Range Rover Sport 4WD 4dr SC Autobiography + California
+ FF
【在 V***b 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 1-car solution: X5 : 2-car solution: GL + M3 : 3-car solution: ESV + X5 + 911 : 4-car solution: ...
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 51 赞啊!
【在 z****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 选了sport package,具体配置搜前面的文章说了。x50i sport pakage驾驶感很好,马 : 力也够。
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 52 thx a lot
08
X5
【在 z****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 实在要选M3的话,记得选sedan,选上EDC,不然标准悬挂太硬 : 我自己开的是M3 E93,老婆不喜欢,因为悬挂太硬。试开过Cayenne,不觉得比旧的08 : 35i号多少。要上Cayenne的话就S或者Turbo,最近我换SUV的过程中,试开过很多(不 : 包括Cayenne Turbo,觉得没必要,因为是老婆开的),最终觉得作为城市开的话,X5 : 50i最好,开起来感觉路感最好,向小车。
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V***b 发帖数: 3419 | 53 Very aggressive picks. My budget 3-car solution is Sequoia Limited + X5 35i
+ M3 F32 V6 M-DCT haha....
GL
California
【在 z****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : To me: : 1-car solution: M5 : 2-car: X5 50i+ M3 E93. You've got to have a split mindset driving between GL : and M3. : 3-car: high-end: X5M + Boxster roadster S + 911 Gt3 RS; low-end: X5 50i + : Exige + Gt-R. Dream: Range Rover Sport 4WD 4dr SC Autobiography + California : + FF
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z****r 发帖数: 183 | 54 It seems to me that there is much overlap between Sequoia and X5 35i.
Besides, X5 35i looks a bit like 鸡肋 to me. I'd rather replace it with
either Wrangler or cooper S convertible.
and M3 F32... where is it yet?
For a 3-car solution, I think a convertible (or equivalently fun car) is a
must, IMHO.
35i
【在 V***b 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Very aggressive picks. My budget 3-car solution is Sequoia Limited + X5 35i : + M3 F32 V6 M-DCT haha.... : : GL : California
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 55 f150 raptor + evo x + wrangler rubicon w/ bikini top
you will have tons of fun in all weather/road conditions and they won't cost
you an arm and a leg |
a**x 发帖数: 215 | 56 pls give some comments/advice on driving experience. thx
we have kids, dont drive much, 22k ml on our current x5 for 4+ yrs. thinking
about getting a pre-owned cayenne.
some friends suggest to get a sedan, say m3, about same price as cayenne for
pre-owned model, say 50k fro 2009 model. havent decided yet. like corvette
a lot, but only 2 seats, need a 4-seater.
i know im comparing two very different animals here, ur input is welcome.
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D*******a 发帖数: 3688 | 57 does your wife/kids want to sit in the M3?
thinking
for
corvette
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : pls give some comments/advice on driving experience. thx : we have kids, dont drive much, 22k ml on our current x5 for 4+ yrs. thinking : about getting a pre-owned cayenne. : some friends suggest to get a sedan, say m3, about same price as cayenne for : pre-owned model, say 50k fro 2009 model. havent decided yet. like corvette : a lot, but only 2 seats, need a 4-seater. : i know im comparing two very different animals here, ur input is welcome. : thx in advance
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 58 no, my wife drive it
kids in the back shud be ok, no?
anyway, that is why i am more towards a cayenne
i once tried a 5 series, hard for me to get in and out. x5 is much easier.
maybe i just need to loose some weight
【在 D*******a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : does your wife/kids want to sit in the M3? : : thinking : for : corvette
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f********m 发帖数: 8397 | 59 hard to imagine why your wife is interested in a M3. Cayenne base model is
not that interesting. I would try a X5 35d.
thinking
for
corvette
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : pls give some comments/advice on driving experience. thx : we have kids, dont drive much, 22k ml on our current x5 for 4+ yrs. thinking : about getting a pre-owned cayenne. : some friends suggest to get a sedan, say m3, about same price as cayenne for : pre-owned model, say 50k fro 2009 model. havent decided yet. like corvette : a lot, but only 2 seats, need a 4-seater. : i know im comparing two very different animals here, ur input is welcome. : thx in advance
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b*******s 发帖数: 2279 | 60 搞不懂为啥要上cayenne?你会发现上了cayenne没有比你的X5好, 驾驶的感觉很有可能
变差如果你适应了BMW的操纵感觉.
或者问,你是考虑第二辆车? 如果是第二辆车,你应该上M3,驾驶更有乐趣. |
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 61 not much diff between x5 and cayenne unless you go for cayenne turbo
how about pamamera which is more fun to drive than cayenne |
T******g 发帖数: 21328 | |
d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 63 可以看看Charger srt8如果喜欢vette这种大v8的话...或者看看audi s4都是可以用旧m3价格买
新的
如果你喜欢vette我很难想象你会喜欢开cayenne |
p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 64 千万别买X5 35d
发动机的噪声大得一塌糊涂,动力也不咋地
【在 f********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hard to imagine why your wife is interested in a M3. Cayenne base model is : not that interesting. I would try a X5 35d. : : thinking : for : corvette
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 65 这代cayenne应该是比X5要好开的
X5太肥了.
【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 搞不懂为啥要上cayenne?你会发现上了cayenne没有比你的X5好, 驾驶的感觉很有可能 : 变差如果你适应了BMW的操纵感觉. : 或者问,你是考虑第二辆车? 如果是第二辆车,你应该上M3,驾驶更有乐趣.
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d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 66 对x5 35i出来之后没有理由买35d了...美国柴油又贼贵
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 千万别买X5 35d : 发动机的噪声大得一塌糊涂,动力也不咋地
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D*****I 发帖数: 8268 | 67 get cayenne s
suit your needs better
thinking
for
corvette
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : pls give some comments/advice on driving experience. thx : we have kids, dont drive much, 22k ml on our current x5 for 4+ yrs. thinking : about getting a pre-owned cayenne. : some friends suggest to get a sedan, say m3, about same price as cayenne for : pre-owned model, say 50k fro 2009 model. havent decided yet. like corvette : a lot, but only 2 seats, need a 4-seater. : i know im comparing two very different animals here, ur input is welcome. : thx in advance
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 68 she is interested in mini cooper, but i cannot sit in that thing
【在 f********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hard to imagine why your wife is interested in a M3. Cayenne base model is : not that interesting. I would try a X5 35d. : : thinking : for : corvette
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 69 y, second one
that is why some friend recommend a sedan
x5 handling is pretty smooth
【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 搞不懂为啥要上cayenne?你会发现上了cayenne没有比你的X5好, 驾驶的感觉很有可能 : 变差如果你适应了BMW的操纵感觉. : 或者问,你是考虑第二辆车? 如果是第二辆车,你应该上M3,驾驶更有乐趣.
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 70 panamera is out of my range,
we drove 22k in 4 yrs, go to cayenne turbo is ...
well, i guess there is no easy balance
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : not much diff between x5 and cayenne unless you go for cayenne turbo : how about pamamera which is more fun to drive than cayenne
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 71 for "this generation" u mean 2011 or 2012?
for pre-owned, im mostly checking 2009ish
btw, for a family with kids (notice the plural here) the chubby x5 does has
its utility. when i first shopped around our first car, i call porsche
dealer and asked if they had 7-seater ....
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这代cayenne应该是比X5要好开的 : X5太肥了.
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 72 just checked charger srt8, sorry, it is not my dish
旧m3价格买
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 可以看看Charger srt8如果喜欢vette这种大v8的话...或者看看audi s4都是可以用旧m3价格买 : 新的 : 如果你喜欢vette我很难想象你会喜欢开cayenne
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 73 go for cayenne s.
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : panamera is out of my range, : we drove 22k in 4 yrs, go to cayenne turbo is ... : well, i guess there is no easy balance
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 74 2011.之前的我不太确定了.
这代X5确实装东西方便空间也大,反过来也就不如一代好开,虽然马力大了不少:)
has
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : for "this generation" u mean 2011 or 2012? : for pre-owned, im mostly checking 2009ish : btw, for a family with kids (notice the plural here) the chubby x5 does has : its utility. when i first shopped around our first car, i call porsche : dealer and asked if they had 7-seater ....
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f********m 发帖数: 8397 | 75 mini cooper is pretty fun. try that!
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : she is interested in mini cooper, but i cannot sit in that thing
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p********e 发帖数: 16048 | 76 why?
【在 f********m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : mini cooper is pretty fun. try that!
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a**i 发帖数: 7261 | 77 操控不错,空间也不差
【在 p********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : why?
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b*******s 发帖数: 2279 | 78
has
你现在的X5开起来肯定好于上一代Cayenne. 如果是7seater, 可以上LR4.
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : for "this generation" u mean 2011 or 2012? : for pre-owned, im mostly checking 2009ish : btw, for a family with kids (notice the plural here) the chubby x5 does has : its utility. when i first shopped around our first car, i call porsche : dealer and asked if they had 7-seater ....
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 79 really? the x5 i have is 2007, not the very first generation
i already rule out 7seater
【在 b*******s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : has : 你现在的X5开起来肯定好于上一代Cayenne. 如果是7seater, 可以上LR4.
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b*******s 发帖数: 2279 | 80
最好的方法是去开一下, 我试驾过09的cayenne, 同样也开过35d/35i. BMW的操纵好不
少. 你自己得出的结论最重要 :)
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : really? the x5 i have is 2007, not the very first generation : i already rule out 7seater
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 81 一代凯宴比X5重很多,同档次的可能公路性能差一些。不过有不少优点,比方带空气悬
挂和差速锁越野性很不错,非常安全,towing能力很强
如果让我再选的话,我会选二代凯宴(轻很多),再搞个truck兼顾越野和拖车 |
a**i 发帖数: 7261 | 82 你拖车很多吗?
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 一代凯宴比X5重很多,同档次的可能公路性能差一些。不过有不少优点,比方带空气悬 : 挂和差速锁越野性很不错,非常安全,towing能力很强 : 如果让我再选的话,我会选二代凯宴(轻很多),再搞个truck兼顾越野和拖车
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 84 貌似从技术指标上看还是Cayenne Turbo最好啊
不过要我选,我不会选Cayenne,可能我是外貌协会的吧……
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个review不错 : http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1108_2011_bmw_x5_2012_
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F*********r 发帖数: 68 | 85 If you don't need AWD or a lot of space to haul stuff,
get a M3.
The experience of driving between the two are night and ay.
How old are your kids? We use a M3 coupe as a family car, and we have
no problems with it.
thinking
for
corvette
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : pls give some comments/advice on driving experience. thx : we have kids, dont drive much, 22k ml on our current x5 for 4+ yrs. thinking : about getting a pre-owned cayenne. : some friends suggest to get a sedan, say m3, about same price as cayenne for : pre-owned model, say 50k fro 2009 model. havent decided yet. like corvette : a lot, but only 2 seats, need a 4-seater. : i know im comparing two very different animals here, ur input is welcome. : thx in advance
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 86
10,5,1
can two car seats fit in m3 backroll? and leave enough space for a third
person?
【在 F*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : If you don't need AWD or a lot of space to haul stuff, : get a M3. : The experience of driving between the two are night and ay. : How old are your kids? We use a M3 coupe as a family car, and we have : no problems with it. : : thinking : for : corvette
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F*********r 发帖数: 68 | 87
Depends on the size of the seats.
For the sedan, maybe, for the coupe, I highly doubt it.
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 10,5,1 : can two car seats fit in m3 backroll? and leave enough space for a third : person?
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z****r 发帖数: 183 | 88 实在要选M3的话,记得选sedan,选上EDC,不然标准悬挂太硬
我自己开的是M3 E93,老婆不喜欢,因为悬挂太硬。试开过Cayenne,不觉得比旧的08
35i号多少。要上Cayenne的话就S或者Turbo,最近我换SUV的过程中,试开过很多(不
包括Cayenne Turbo,觉得没必要,因为是老婆开的),最终觉得作为城市开的话,X5
50i最好,开起来感觉路感最好,向小车。
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : no, my wife drive it : kids in the back shud be ok, no? : anyway, that is why i am more towards a cayenne : i once tried a 5 series, hard for me to get in and out. x5 is much easier. : maybe i just need to loose some weight
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d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 89 要我的话肯定gc srt8,省下来的钱买辆cayman s
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 貌似从技术指标上看还是Cayenne Turbo最好啊 : 不过要我选,我不会选Cayenne,可能我是外貌协会的吧……
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 90 我也选GC SRT8,但要等换8AT:)
不过貌似Cayenne Turbo和GC SRT8的差价买不了Cayman S吧?而且有这个钱我就上
Vette GS了
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 要我的话肯定gc srt8,省下来的钱买辆cayman s
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 91 现在已经没有M3 Sedan新车了吧
08
X5
【在 z****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 实在要选M3的话,记得选sedan,选上EDC,不然标准悬挂太硬 : 我自己开的是M3 E93,老婆不喜欢,因为悬挂太硬。试开过Cayenne,不觉得比旧的08 : 35i号多少。要上Cayenne的话就S或者Turbo,最近我换SUV的过程中,试开过很多(不 : 包括Cayenne Turbo,觉得没必要,因为是老婆开的),最终觉得作为城市开的话,X5 : 50i最好,开起来感觉路感最好,向小车。
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d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 92 我也在等这个8at被用上challenger srt8
我就毛姑姑觉得他们差6万左右好像可以搞裸体的cayman s哈哈
说到vette最近motor trend的一篇vette vs. carrera s不知道碳大看到没有,把vette
贬得像屎一样的说carrera虽然价格翻倍但是车子好十倍...
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_2012_
chevrolet_corvette_grand_sport_coupe_vs_2012_porsche_
911_carrera_s_comparison/viewall.html
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也选GC SRT8,但要等换8AT:) : 不过貌似Cayenne Turbo和GC SRT8的差价买不了Cayman S吧?而且有这个钱我就上 : Vette GS了
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 93 看侧重点吧,如果看重refinement,那991肯定比C6强得多,但未必每个人非要看重这个
如果单说性能,991 CS比C6 GS强也有限,价格还贵多了
btw
R&T最近有篇文章是Vette的全家大比武,你看过没?
vette
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也在等这个8at被用上challenger srt8 : 我就毛姑姑觉得他们差6万左右好像可以搞裸体的cayman s哈哈 : 说到vette最近motor trend的一篇vette vs. carrera s不知道碳大看到没有,把vette : 贬得像屎一样的说carrera虽然价格翻倍但是车子好十倍... : http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_2012_ : chevrolet_corvette_grand_sport_coupe_vs_2012_porsche_ : 911_carrera_s_comparison/viewall.html
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d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 94 看过了,非常不错。。那么多黑颜色的vette在一起很有气势
我把六辆车的1/4 mile成绩截图了哈哈
这个
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看侧重点吧,如果看重refinement,那991肯定比C6强得多,但未必每个人非要看重这个 : 如果单说性能,991 CS比C6 GS强也有限,价格还贵多了 : btw : R&T最近有篇文章是Vette的全家大比武,你看过没? : : vette
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 95 50i选sports/m sports pkg没?没选的话感觉还是有些过软啊
我的感觉是,加了sports pkg的X5大概跟没加的这代5系(已经略偏软但还没糟糕到不能
接受)
基本相当,算是个够用而且舒适性能接受的选择吧.
没sports pkg的话高速换lane时稍微激进点儿body roll就很明显让人没信心
感觉软的过分了.
08
X5
【在 z****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 实在要选M3的话,记得选sedan,选上EDC,不然标准悬挂太硬 : 我自己开的是M3 E93,老婆不喜欢,因为悬挂太硬。试开过Cayenne,不觉得比旧的08 : 35i号多少。要上Cayenne的话就S或者Turbo,最近我换SUV的过程中,试开过很多(不 : 包括Cayenne Turbo,觉得没必要,因为是老婆开的),最终觉得作为城市开的话,X5 : 50i最好,开起来感觉路感最好,向小车。
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 96 现在30-35k能买到啥水准的vette?有了解不?:D
vette
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也在等这个8at被用上challenger srt8 : 我就毛姑姑觉得他们差6万左右好像可以搞裸体的cayman s哈哈 : 说到vette最近motor trend的一篇vette vs. carrera s不知道碳大看到没有,把vette : 贬得像屎一样的说carrera虽然价格翻倍但是车子好十倍... : http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_2012_ : chevrolet_corvette_grand_sport_coupe_vs_2012_porsche_ : 911_carrera_s_comparison/viewall.html
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d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 97 现在40k出头可以买新的base vette, 30-35k的话应该可以买到09-10年的base..或者再
稍微加点40k左右可以搞06年的z06, 505hp 7.0L v8~~~
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 现在30-35k能买到啥水准的vette?有了解不?:D : : vette
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 98 这玩意爱坏不?:D
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 现在40k出头可以买新的base vette, 30-35k的话应该可以买到09-10年的base..或者再 : 稍微加点40k左右可以搞06年的z06, 505hp 7.0L v8~~~
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V***b 发帖数: 3419 | 99 1-car solution: X5
2-car solution: GL + M3
3-car solution: ESV + X5 + 911
4-car solution: ... |
d******g 发帖数: 6966 | 100 这个我说不准了...我大半年用下来倒没坏过东西.
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这玩意爱坏不?:D
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 101 我也看了,基本就是说路况稍微不好,vette就歇菜。traction够的时候vette还行
vette
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也在等这个8at被用上challenger srt8 : 我就毛姑姑觉得他们差6万左右好像可以搞裸体的cayman s哈哈 : 说到vette最近motor trend的一篇vette vs. carrera s不知道碳大看到没有,把vette : 贬得像屎一样的说carrera虽然价格翻倍但是车子好十倍... : http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_2012_ : chevrolet_corvette_grand_sport_coupe_vs_2012_porsche_ : 911_carrera_s_comparison/viewall.html
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D*****I 发帖数: 8268 | 102 基本上在很大的一个区间价格翻倍都能好10倍吧,按照他们那个10倍来说。。
vette
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也在等这个8at被用上challenger srt8 : 我就毛姑姑觉得他们差6万左右好像可以搞裸体的cayman s哈哈 : 说到vette最近motor trend的一篇vette vs. carrera s不知道碳大看到没有,把vette : 贬得像屎一样的说carrera虽然价格翻倍但是车子好十倍... : http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_2012_ : chevrolet_corvette_grand_sport_coupe_vs_2012_porsche_ : 911_carrera_s_comparison/viewall.html
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c*********r 发帖数: 19468 | 103 印象中Vette的可靠性一直都不错的
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这玩意爱坏不?:D
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z****r 发帖数: 183 | 104 选了sport package,具体配置搜前面的文章说了。x50i sport pakage驾驶感很好,马
力也够。
【在 p*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 50i选sports/m sports pkg没?没选的话感觉还是有些过软啊 : 我的感觉是,加了sports pkg的X5大概跟没加的这代5系(已经略偏软但还没糟糕到不能 : 接受) : 基本相当,算是个够用而且舒适性能接受的选择吧. : 没sports pkg的话高速换lane时稍微激进点儿body roll就很明显让人没信心 : 感觉软的过分了. : : 08 : X5
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z****r 发帖数: 183 | 105 To me:
1-car solution: M5
2-car: X5 50i+ M3 E93. You've got to have a split mindset driving between GL
and M3.
3-car: high-end: X5M + Boxster roadster S + 911 Gt3 RS; low-end: X5 50i +
Exige + Gt-R. Dream: Range Rover Sport 4WD 4dr SC Autobiography + California
+ FF
【在 V***b 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 1-car solution: X5 : 2-car solution: GL + M3 : 3-car solution: ESV + X5 + 911 : 4-car solution: ...
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p*********e 发帖数: 32207 | 106 赞啊!
【在 z****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 选了sport package,具体配置搜前面的文章说了。x50i sport pakage驾驶感很好,马 : 力也够。
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 107 thx a lot
08
X5
【在 z****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 实在要选M3的话,记得选sedan,选上EDC,不然标准悬挂太硬 : 我自己开的是M3 E93,老婆不喜欢,因为悬挂太硬。试开过Cayenne,不觉得比旧的08 : 35i号多少。要上Cayenne的话就S或者Turbo,最近我换SUV的过程中,试开过很多(不 : 包括Cayenne Turbo,觉得没必要,因为是老婆开的),最终觉得作为城市开的话,X5 : 50i最好,开起来感觉路感最好,向小车。
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V***b 发帖数: 3419 | 108 Very aggressive picks. My budget 3-car solution is Sequoia Limited + X5 35i
+ M3 F32 V6 M-DCT haha....
GL
California
【在 z****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : To me: : 1-car solution: M5 : 2-car: X5 50i+ M3 E93. You've got to have a split mindset driving between GL : and M3. : 3-car: high-end: X5M + Boxster roadster S + 911 Gt3 RS; low-end: X5 50i + : Exige + Gt-R. Dream: Range Rover Sport 4WD 4dr SC Autobiography + California : + FF
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z****r 发帖数: 183 | 109 It seems to me that there is much overlap between Sequoia and X5 35i.
Besides, X5 35i looks a bit like 鸡肋 to me. I'd rather replace it with
either Wrangler or cooper S convertible.
and M3 F32... where is it yet?
For a 3-car solution, I think a convertible (or equivalently fun car) is a
must, IMHO.
35i
【在 V***b 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Very aggressive picks. My budget 3-car solution is Sequoia Limited + X5 35i : + M3 F32 V6 M-DCT haha.... : : GL : California
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 110 f150 raptor + evo x + wrangler rubicon w/ bikini top
you will have tons of fun in all weather/road conditions and they won't cost
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V******k 发帖数: 820 | 111 我倒和其它人感觉不一样了..开了Cayenne和x5 35.觉的Cayenne好开些..座椅也舒服一
些..当然也贵了些..值不值就看个人了..最后买的Cayenne base..觉的还不错..... |
b******a 发帖数: 153 | 112 Go with Cayenne S - you will love it. But why do you want to give up X5? |
s******a 发帖数: 543 | 113 Cayenne base 的配置, 价格如何,能谈谈驾驶感受么?谢了。
【在 V******k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我倒和其它人感觉不一样了..开了Cayenne和x5 35.觉的Cayenne好开些..座椅也舒服一 : 些..当然也贵了些..值不值就看个人了..最后买的Cayenne base..觉的还不错.....
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 114 no no no
im not giving up my x5
we just need a second vehicle
i will keep the x5, probably leave it to my son when he is 16 :-)
【在 b******a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Go with Cayenne S - you will love it. But why do you want to give up X5?
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V***b 发帖数: 3419 | 115 Is it boring to see an x5 and a cayenne parked side by side in your garage?
【在 a**x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : no no no : im not giving up my x5 : we just need a second vehicle : i will keep the x5, probably leave it to my son when he is 16 :-)
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o****o 发帖数: 8077 | 116 我看了这个,看完后感觉vette跟carrera s比就是个渣
vette
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也在等这个8at被用上challenger srt8 : 我就毛姑姑觉得他们差6万左右好像可以搞裸体的cayman s哈哈 : 说到vette最近motor trend的一篇vette vs. carrera s不知道碳大看到没有,把vette : 贬得像屎一样的说carrera虽然价格翻倍但是车子好十倍... : http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1204_2012_ : chevrolet_corvette_grand_sport_coupe_vs_2012_porsche_ : 911_carrera_s_comparison/viewall.html
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a**x 发帖数: 215 | 117 why boring?
btw, i only park them on the driveway, not in garage :-p
【在 V***b 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Is it boring to see an x5 and a cayenne parked side by side in your garage?
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i****x 发帖数: 17565 | 118 你这话被红脖子听到了真的能喷死你,我看汽车杂志CD、MT里读者回信永远都是喷
vette vs 911的
【在 o****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我看了这个,看完后感觉vette跟carrera s比就是个渣 : : vette
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