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s****r
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this depend on your perspective of aesthetics!
As an engineer, i think the ttool should only have accessories for its work,
any thing more than necessary, will only be negative.
如果你挂个手电, 缺没有任何实际用途的话, 我看不挂为好
h**********n
发帖数: 394
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - My short FNS-40 review :)
背景:2012六月份时我侥幸以很低的价格从Buds Gunshop 拍到了一把当时新上市不久
的FNS-40。本来对这把枪的了解仅限于2012 SHOT Show, 只是当时价格实在太有诱惑力
,所以决定吃一次螃蟹。这篇review 的目的就是在这一年之际将我对FNS-40 的印象整
理出来,并且将FNS-40 与其它几种我使用过的Striker-fired 设计予以横向比较(
Walther PPQ 9mm & .40SW, Glock 19 Gen3 9mm, Caracal F&C 9mm).
I. 人机功效 Ergonomics 4.5/5 分
在我看来,不管一把手枪的性能怎样,一个优秀设计的重要原则之一是它是否舒适。如
果这把枪第一次上手,你就觉得这把枪握着别扭,那么又何必虐待自己去花时间和金钱
去适应一个不属于你的设计?从人机功效的角度来看,FNS-40 的设计是很成功的。FNH
把一个 compact size 的 slide 装到了一个 full size 的 frame 上,使得FNS-40
握在手里有很好的平衡和指向性。
1) 握把角度 & 轮廓: FNS40 采用... 阅读全帖
G***a
发帖数: 27294
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来自主题: loseweight版 - 女生减肥=减胸?
self-report是不准的,况且你只能代表你自己啊。人家这个结果是eye-tracking做
出来的(速度超越表层意识,能够反应一定的本能processing),还是很多人的
statistic
参考文献
性选择顺序来自
The well-dressed ape: a natural history by myself--By Hannah Holmes --她也
是个著名的人类学家
人脸分布,来自纪录片,the science of sex appeal, youtube上就有
还有一部分,来自BBC的纪录片,the human face--Beauty, youtube上也有
腿长测量,来自以下几个文章
Bertamini, M. (2009). THE EFFECT OF LEG LENGTH ON PERCEIVED ATTRACTIVENESS
OF SIMPLIFIED STIMULI. In Social, Evolutionary, and Cultural Psychology. 3(3
).
Frederick, D. A. et al. (2010). The... 阅读全帖
y***i
发帖数: 279
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来自主题: loseweight版 - 体脂按图索骥(多图)
From: http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/#more-9617
BTW builtlean.com is a pretty good site with lots information.
===========
Body fat percentage is thankfully gaining more popularity as an effective
marker of overall health and fitness instead of the BMI Index.
While I’ve written extensively about body fat percentage in numerous
articles including Ideal Body Fat Percentage Chart, 5 Ways to Measure Body
Fat Percentage, and Ideal Body Weight Formula among many othe... 阅读全帖
j*********r
发帖数: 654
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The Canadian Rocky is worthy multiple trip. I have been there ten times
since 2003.
If it is a US national park, the regulation restricts having buildings in
the wildness. The Smoky is an exception because it had quite a few farms
and hotels before the park was established in the 1930's. Le Count Lodge
and the other sites was "grandfathered in" via a very special legislation
signed by FDR.
BTW, Le Count is so lame. I can't imaging spending over a hundred buck to
sleep there for one night. I... 阅读全帖
s******p
发帖数: 819
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Less than 24 hours after nyc triathlon, I’ve already feel 90% recovered, so
I decided to run to work as usual. The run felt so easy and it became a
tempo run after 1 mile warm up. I can’t help comparing the intensity of
triathlon races to running races.
Here is an approximate intensity comparison, at least to me:
sprint = swim + 10k
olympic = swim + half marathon
half iron = swim + marathon
iron = swim + 50 miler
double iron = swim + 100 miler
So for a serious marathon runner, if she knows how t... 阅读全帖
d******0
发帖数: 22800
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How Running Below Your Aerobic Threshold Can Help You Burn More Fat, Stay
Healthy, and Run Faster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkADvTlI6Sc
A lecture on Ultra Running by Michael Arnstein Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vce-pVYIjx8
哈哈哈,看这个。。这哥们也是啥便宜要啥,不管男女。
TheFruitarian 8 hours ago
I buy running shoes based on a few factors: quality of fit, aesthetic look,
and price... and 'women's' shoes' are the same as men's, but cost LESS in
odd sizes, so as a size 9 in men's I buy size 10 1/2... 阅读全帖
a*******r
发帖数: 3452
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作者试图用一个字来评犹他的各个雪场。
载自skiutah.com
======================================
Which Utah Ski Resort Is For You?
Posted by Cat Ski Utah Ultimate Powderhound on November 4, 2010
The number one question I’ve gotten as a permanent resident of Utah is at
the same time the easiest and hardest to answer.
You all want to know “Which resort is the best?”
And I want to answer “All of them!” because it’s true.
The resort you are going to like the best depends on you, and I haven’t met
you personally (yet). Every... 阅读全帖
H****w
发帖数: 1632
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How to Choose the Best Scuba Diving Watch
Quartz or Automatic Self-winding, Analog or Digital Dive Watches
Mar 6, 2009 Yuen Kit Mun
Analog Dive Watch with Classic Rotating Bezel - lince86 stock.xchngDive
watches help to ensure the safety of scuba divers. They also look cool and
are popular with men and ladies. Here are the features to look out for.

Dive watches are used to
Track dive time, to avoid running out of air.
Time decompression stages when ascending.
Even with today's dive computers... 阅读全帖
a*****0
发帖数: 6788
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 这闺女很不错
http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_15633236
Rather than indulge in teenage angst, Catherine Chen instead poured her
creativity out on paper, doodling comic characters and crafting storylines.
Those secret sketches - drawings she was too shy to even show family members
- have now translated into a published comic strip.
The 17-year-old Rancho Palos Verdes resident has yet to even graduate high
school.
"We didn't even know she had done it," her father, Anthony Chen, said of the
comic.
Catherine de... 阅读全帖
f*********e
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来自主题: Tennis版 - Official: 四蛋最美单反
http://m.atpworldtour.com/News/Form-And-Fitness/2013/Wawrinka-O
......
Yet there is something aesthetically pleasing that only a single-handed
backhand can deliver to a viewer, and today, Stanislas Wawrinka offers one
of the most beautiful strokes on the ATP World Tour. When his court
positioning, timing, acceleration and extension all come together, Wawrinka
’s backhand is pure poetry in motion.
......
c**********r
发帖数: 944
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Personally I think your plan is fine.
You can easily join local tour to Bonampak Yaxchilan from Palenque for 1 day
. Their schedule is not too tight for me.
For San Cristobal, I think 3-5 hours should be enough. But I visited there
after I went to a couple of colonial town. So maybe I am already
aesthetically tired...
f*******2
发帖数: 91
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来自主题: Travel版 - 黄石提顿冰川 行程求建议
观赏性:
appreciation n.
1. gratitude; thankful recognition:
"They showed their appreciation by giving him a gold watch."
2. the act of estimating the qualities of things and giving them their
proper value.
3. clear perception or recognition, especially of aesthetic quality.
这是网上的翻译,其中第三条应该是符合前文语境的。我看不出来这是主观还是客观,
所以你说是主观我无法反对。
我知道这已经离题很远了……
R***a
发帖数: 41892
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来自主题: Travel版 - 黄石提顿冰川 行程求建议
aesthetic就是主观词啊
t********l
发帖数: 996
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Escape Kit
An Eight-Day Trip to Paris and Barcelona ($1,299 to $1,899 per Person),
Including:
Flights from New York City, Washington DC, and Los Angeles to Paris, France;
Paris to Barcelona, Spain; and Barcelona to the US
Double-Occupancy Accommodations for Three Nights at the ibis Berthier Porte
de Clichy Hotel (or Similar) in Paris and Three Nights at the EuroHotel
Barcelona (or Similar) in Barcelona
Six Breakfasts
Airline Taxes, Fuel Surcharges, and Entrance and Admission Fees
Priced per Pers... 阅读全帖
g***u
发帖数: 5413
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来自主题: TVGame版 - 187的psv 有人收到吗,怎么样
What do the different conditions mean?
New - If an item is being sold as "new" on Warehouse Deals, this means that
the item has never been removed from the packaging but the packaging has sup
erficial damage.
Like New - A "like new"" item sold on Warehouse Deals is in perfect conditio
n, but due to the condition of the packaging, it does not meet Amazon.com st
andards for new product. For customer-returned product, it's possible that t
he previous customer opened and removed the product from the... 阅读全帖
C***t
发帖数: 10731
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来自主题: TVGame版 - 任天堂下款主机马上要登场了
Fusion DS is said to contain an ARMv8-A Cortex-A53 CPU, a custom Adreno 420-
based AMD graphics processor and a 3,300mAh Li-Ion battery. Aesthetically,
users would see a slide out design and custom swivel tilt hinge.
In these unconfirmed specs, the portable is backward compatible with
Nintendo 3DS games thanks to a 3DS card slot.
Fusion Terminal looks more like a next-gen console when stacked against the
Wii U given its specs. It's supposed to be a 64-bit, 8-core IBM processor
that has 4GB of sp... 阅读全帖
f*******n
发帖数: 5241
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来自主题: Weightlifting版 - ZT: Dave Tate's Iron Evolution
From Part 9:
The Perfect Strength Supersoldier
If you've read through all the installments in this series you're probably
wondering what I think is the absolute best training from my thirty years
under the bar.
What would I do if I had access to a 13 year-old Dave Tate who wanted to be
the ultimate bad ass? How would I train him to make him among the strongest
men on the planet, yet jacked and muscular, with outstanding health as well?
Next to Westside, what I'm doing now with Meadows is the mos... 阅读全帖
D**********e
发帖数: 147
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Virgo Horoscope for November 2010
By Susan Miller
This month your razor sharp intelligence and ability to speak, write, edit,
research, sell, persuade, and
debate, along with your skills in other communication arts, will set you
apart and help you reach goals in a
very effective way. As the month opens, planets building in your third house
will bring opportunity in all
these areas. You will get a clue instantly about just how special this trend
will be, almost the minute the
month begins.
On Nov... 阅读全帖
a********o
发帖数: 585
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Music is a logic, abstract arts of time
Music is highly logic. Composition procedure is a procedure
of logically creating
beauty. that's very unique to Music as to other form or
arts.
Music is a new language that you must learn before using. It
is like mathe. But it
is much sensuel than mathe. And it contains culture and
style.
What's style? That is a very hard aesthetic question. It
contains culture, personality.
and the most of all, techniques. People who are not trained
professionally always
ignore the technical part of music.
Musi
a********o
发帖数: 585
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - LuLu
I wrote something about LuLu. But I lost it. I spent two
hours without
drinking and eating, writing about my thoughts about this
masterpiece.
I tried to analyze its aesthetic meaning from both music and
drama.
But I lost it while posting it.
So, I just want to say: Berg is a genuis. He brought total
new sights
about modern opera. In both its musical language and dramtic
symbolism.
I also want to say LuLu is an incredible Opera. In all
senses.
I love Opera. But I used to think its dramtic artisti
g*********t
发帖数: 154
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Opus 111
Beethoven 's last piano sonata is a monument to his conviction that solutions
to the problems facing humanity lie ever within our grasp if they can be
recognised for what they are and be confronted by models of human
transformation.
Among Beethoven 's instrumental works Opus 111 reaches beyond the merelyl
aesthetic dimension to touch the domain of the moral and ethical.
v********e
发帖数: 1058
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by this standard the preludes are hopeless.
The romantic generation has an aesthetics of their own. They find beauties
in fragments, works that start from the middle and end without resolutions.
Some lieder by Schumann are examples of this taste for transitory beauties.
Many of Chopin's preludes fall in this category. Most of his nocturnes have
a larger structure than such fragments, but the majority of they simply are
not meant to express dramatics or to tell epics, which are more typical of
so
k****w
发帖数: 3753
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doesn't seem worth it except this in-game effect?
Diablo III - Aesthetic Artifacts
Call forth glowing angel wings, unfurl an exclusive banner sigil, and dye
your armor sets with the Bottled Cloud or Bottled Smoke items.
f*********g
发帖数: 3319
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来自主题: Exchange版 - Nordstrom Rack private sale归来报告
实物照
1/Halogen® 'Work' Leather Shopper $ 57这个包够大,适合上班用,可背可挎
Utilitarian style defines a strappy shopper crafted from polished leather and secured with a brushed-metal twist-lock at the flap closure.
Exterior magnetic-flap pocket.
Interior zip, wall and cell phone pockets.
Protective metal feet.
Leather.By Halogen®; imported
2/Halogen® Leather Satchel $50这个要小一点,可以crossbody,也可手提。大小适中。价格白菜,质量不错的说。
Strappy satchel with a vintage aesthetic is crafted from soft leather and elevated with t... 阅读全帖
c*****a
发帖数: 179
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来自主题: Fashion版 - Beautiful Bella!
you mean aesthetically?
a*f
发帖数: 5682
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Thanks, 我在力求捕捉新人情感瞬间的同时,尽量ensure the aesthetic quality of the photos
M****a
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来自主题: Fashion版 - 请推荐配西装的男士皮鞋
hey I think there is no absolute answer to this question.
In my humble opinion, cap-toe is more fashion forward, suitable for wedding,
party, night life, while plain toe is better for business purpose. That's
only for me. It really depends on the model/style of the shoes and your
personal aesthetic choice.
y**s
发帖数: 6809
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来自主题: Fashion版 - [奔] 请大家帮选fur~
I agree on the resemblance... These shoes are featured in the fall
collection where Pilati, the creative designer of the fashion house, created
a strong religious flavor (although he denied upon it). The shoes were
matched up to all black outfits, oversized capes and hats, protective
plastic films, and long metal necklaces with pedants that look just like
crucifixes.
In that situation, with it's curvy cut and the hairs protruding from the
front and the back, the shoes actually made just the righ... 阅读全帖
y**s
发帖数: 6809
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i've started feeling that my shoe wardrobe is too beatnik, with so many
years sticking to ysl aesthetics..will switch to fancy designs for the
upcoming spring..:)
I*****e
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1.Rodarte
Their designs manage to be both ethereal and completely funky.
Since Fall of 2006, Rodarte's ready-to-wear has gotten more and more
sophisticated and elaborate.
2. Phillip Lim
Since its beginning, the label's been praised for its cool and easy
aesthetic.With a celebrity fan base that includes so many of our favorites
— Kate Hudson, Kate Bosworth, Natalie Portman,
c**i
发帖数: 6973
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来自主题: Fashion版 - 说说一个韩国朋友的整容
Koreans alone reportedly have a fad on jaw-line reduction. If you are single
minded about jawline reduction, go directly to (5).
Sam Dolnick, Plastic Surgeons in City's Enclaves See Beauty Trends Emerge by
Culture. New York Times, Feb 19, 2011 (title in the print).
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/19/nyregion
/19plastic.html?scp=1&sq=cosmetic&st=cse
("Koreans in [New York City's Flushing] Chinatown are having jaw lines
slimmed")
Note:
(a) This report was featured in my posting in Fashion board tit... 阅读全帖
M*********s
发帖数: 1086
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Agree - my mom has narrow and sloping shoulders and she used to be proud of
them (older generations' aesthetics) - now she realized that she can't find
jackets that fit her and as she ages, the narrowness of the shoulders draws
attention to her tummy...
y**s
发帖数: 6809
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yeah that's what i mean by sculpting. the body is just a prototype. some of
the curves were fitted. some were remolded to serve the designer's own
purposes. Now apart from such conceptualists as mcqueen who express ideas,
there are also designers who center their collections around a theme instead
of a concept. their goal is more of a aesthetic one in the classical sense.
both are explorations, which the capital F'ed fashion should be, and are
absolutely different from what's being discuessed he... 阅读全帖
m*******g
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来自主题: Fashion版 - 居然看不懂project runway了
可能真是我落伍了,直接从第三季跳到第八季,评委的aesthetic变化实在太大了。。。
y**s
发帖数: 6809
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miss dior is more feminine. I think it has much more details than cf.
cf is more versatile but it's also all over the place
for Celine i think you were talking about the case bag. it has completely
different aesthetics.
In terms of volumn miss dior holds slightly more than CF, not a big
difference though. Don't know about celine, it looks thin.
as for maintenance chanel's lambskin is more fragile than dior's. but
obviously caviar is almost worry free. there have been concerns about its
caviar qu... 阅读全帖
I*y
发帖数: 1024
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来自主题: Fashion版 - 韩国人整容也惹你了 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: Idy (没有烟抽的日子), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 韩国人整容也惹你了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Apr 1 02:26:35 2015, 美东)
我有一个孟加拉朋友,后来因为和老师关系不好退学了,我很喜欢孟加拉人(包括印度
的西孟加拉人)他们都很良善谦虚,一般不像德里和南方那些自以为是大英帝国子民所
以故意把没人听的懂的英语说的很快好像很流利的印度人,加上大家都是第三世界穷逼
所以有时候会讨论一些低级趣味的问题。这个人喜欢走在路上看亚洲美女,然后猜是中
国人还是韩国人。没过多少时间我就发现,他问“This is korean?”的那个女的,都
又高又白又漂亮;问“Chinese?”的女的都是没有超过一米六的虎背熊腰,不过我是矢
口否认的,说虎背熊腰们是越南马来。因为这个人在其他方面也猥琐,后来他退学以后
也联系不多。
虽然我的东北室友告诉我他们那里的朝鲜族女人都又高又白特别漂亮,中国人还是一致
认为韩国人都是整容才变的好看,而骨子里还都是丑八怪。不否认韩国整容流行是一个
事实,毕竟相关... 阅读全帖
Y*******n
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来自主题: Fashion版 - 娱乐圈里的锥子脸
inferior aesthetic value system.
x******n
发帖数: 8550
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M-Z
Mums (Chrysanthemum) Leave the foliage in tact to protect the plant’s crown
. All the better to let the flowers bloom well into the fall. (USDA Zones 5
- 9)
Oriental Poppy (Papaver orientale) Poppies appear to be ephemeral,
disappearing or declining after the blooms fade. However a new flush of
foliage should emerge and can be left on the plants over winter, to act as a
mulch. (USDA Zones 3 - 7)
Pincushion Flower (Scabiosa columbaria) You can remove the old flower stems,
but this plant is so... 阅读全帖
e***e
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 美到不真实 还美吗?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critique_of_Judgement#Aesthetics
简而言之,美的存在于好看(听、闻、吃……)的和好(对,真)的之间;是否美是一
个主观判断,但应当(可以、会)有臭味相投(可以穿越时空)的一伙来支持这个判断(
一定的普遍存在性,Sensus communis,“如恶恶臭,如好好色”);审美判断的过程
是一个对其形式之目的论的理解,lo,这里就进到批判第二部分了,打住。
m*******r
发帖数: 7495
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 巴黎:在遗忘前(上) (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Switzerland 讨论区 】
发信人: moonpolar (处女+天秤=双子), 信区: Switzerland
标 题: 巴黎:在遗忘前(上)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 10 12:05:50 2011, 美东)
巴黎,是不可能遗忘的,遗忘的只有细节。
然而,面对这颗千年以来欧洲最璀璨的明珠,我连细节也舍不得错过。
该如何描绘这座城市?如果没有时尚的眼光、优雅的品位、艺术的思维和历史的内蕴,
似乎很难捕捉到她的精髓和神韵。但每个凡夫俗子都有其眼中的巴黎,原谅我平淡的语
调,请随我一道领略仲秋巴黎绝世丰神的冰山一角。
巴黎城郊每年向法国贡献着超过全国总量四分之一的GDP,人文、艺术、科学、文化、
历史在这里冲击融汇,世代流芳。这座城市每年吞吐着280万来自世界各地的游人,拥
有超过3800个historical monuments, 世界文化遗址四处之多。相比,意大利这个世界
文化遗址数目世界之最的国家,总共也不过47处而已。巴黎,当之无愧成为全球第一大
旅游城市。
出发!
先品一道气场强大的美食,才好漫游。
此行从位于法国巴黎市中心... 阅读全帖
m*****n
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 落日以前
没觉得,啥主观,啥客观公平?在我来看,aesthetics范围没这么大到这样的程度,和
narrative还是有区别的。不过这些都是咬文嚼字。short stories你这样写确实是比较
明显的
M*****g
发帖数: 1054
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 落日以前
啊。。。我似乎不是很明白你在说什么。。总之我个人的哲学是narrative和绘画里的
颜色线条一样,是创造美的载体。。。如果你读文章时感到感情了,那就行了,注意人
物之间的公平做什么。。。拉近两个人物之间的positionality不就突出不了这女生主
观上的遗憾了么。。。
我觉得凡事有感情的东西都叫我觉得美。。这点似乎很Oscar Wilde。。。不过我说的
美和aesthetics是否是同一个词也是值得探讨的。。
b*s
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 《贾想》不假
In 1996, The Graduate was selected for preservation in the U.S. National
Film Registry as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically
significant".
g*******e
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 求艺术电影
1. 如果是非英文配音的,需要有英文 subtitle
2. 需要触及以下问题:art - what is art; high/low art; originality,
authenticity, aesthetics, technology and art, origin and copy, creativity
and human mind
3. 有其他问题也可以
给本科生们看的,如果使用了我发小笼汤包五个...
m*****n
发帖数: 7450
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姑且把你这里讲的“艺术”降落到小说这个具体的形式上,这玩意儿估计也有很多争论
。即使布鲁姆这样非常强调“美感”的异数,也说过一个小说成功的因素主要有:智慧
(wisdom),叙述手段(narratives)和美感(aesthetics?)。三个方面有一个方面
有突破都可以算成功的小说。这立面, 第一点可能并不是狭义上的意识形态,也可能
就是对一个社会的深刻观察,或者对人性的一个突破常规的描绘。额其实也认为当今英
语系(非creative writing)意识形态当道。 第二点主要是小说独特的技术层面,第
三点比较玄,跟读者的审美情趣有关。作为我自己来说,我觉得小说如果只重视美感,
那它怎么也拼不过其他一些更纯粹的文字艺术,比如诗歌,也更拼不过其他超越文字的
艺术形式。
b*s
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - [征文]听歌:许巍的《空谷幽兰》
抄维基:
Art is a diverse range of human activities and the products of those
activities; this article focuses primarily on the visual arts, which
includes the creation of images or objects in fields including painting,
sculpture, printmaking, photography, and other visual media. Architecture is
often included as one of the visual arts; however, like the decorative arts
, it involves the creation of objects where the practical considerations of
use are essential—in a way that they are usually not fo... 阅读全帖
b*s
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - [征文]听歌:许巍的《空谷幽兰》
抄维基:
Art is a diverse range of human activities and the products of those
activities; this article focuses primarily on the visual arts, which
includes the creation of images or objects in fields including painting,
sculpture, printmaking, photography, and other visual media. Architecture is
often included as one of the visual arts; however, like the decorative arts
, it involves the creation of objects where the practical considerations of
use are essential—in a way that they are usually not fo... 阅读全帖
z*i
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 转贴一个很好玩的现代艺术科普
“Artists who peddle wiggly lines and colors as representing emotion should
be run off the streets.”
While it appears entirely black at first, Ad Reinhardt’s Abstract Painting
is composed of an almost imperceptible grid of nine squares distinguished by
subtle variations in color. Close examination reveals a red hue in the
squares at its four corners, blue at the top and bottom of its vertical axis
, and hints of green across its horizontal center. These nuances, however,
reveal themselves only af... 阅读全帖
m**e
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50
very nostalgic
typical of japanese aesthetics
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