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发帖数: 21641 | 1 特地wiki了一下
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth_subculture
The significance of goth's subcultural rebellion is limited, and it draws on
imagery at the heart of Western culture. Unlike the hippie or punk
movements, the goth subculture has no pronounced political messages or cries
for social activism. The subculture is marked by its emphasis on
individualism, tolerance for diversity, and mild tendencies towards
intellectualism and cynicism, but even these ideas are not universal to all
goths. Goth ide... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 254 | 2 It makes sense.
But the ancient sculptors seemed to be following a certain fixed rules
concerning portion, just like the modern artists do.
Aesthetically, I think people like longer legs now and they are working out
along that direction. In fact, statistics have shown that the legs of the
American women have been longer than in the beginning of this century. This is
entirely possible. In the older Hollywood movies, the women in swimming suits
also looked 身长脚短 and 'fatty'.
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发帖数: 200 | 3 “红楼”剧组合影，黛玉右侧的就是当年才俊导演岑范。
“到如今俗世难容我清白身”应该是“浊世”，越剧里的发音是一样的。“与妹妹永别
在今朝”应该是“今宵”，还有后边这句应该这么断句“只怕是，寒食清明，梦中把我
姑娘叫”，最后还有一句“休将白骨埋污淖”。[焚稿]整折都极精彩，每观欲泪。而徐
在[金玉良缘]里的唱，固然是极好的，我亦觉得此处和[哭灵] 一折的编剧设计，弥补
了我们看书时内心的空落。虽然这个帖子的主体是黛玉，我想不妨与同好闲话点滴。
剧本对宝玉的痴心苦恋着墨甚多，尾声中的《哭灵》一折成为全剧高潮，这在原著
中几乎一笔带过的细节是点睛之作。无可否认，这种更为戏剧性及美学化 (
dramatically & aesthetically)的设计使贾宝玉几乎被抬高到了千古情痴的地位。且
看他在惊觉中了凤姐调包计后跪在老祖宗膝前的一番哭诉：
（宝玉独白）老祖宗，我有一句话要讲。（老祖宗巍颤颤心疼道）你讲你讲。
“我和妹妹都有病，两个病原一条根。
求你们，把我们放在一间屋，也好让，同病相怜心连心。
活着也能日相见，死了也可葬同坟。
老祖宗啊，天下万物我无所求，只求与妹妹共死生。”
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b*******n
发帖数: 473 | 4 這一段解釋寫的真好。'凡人的快樂註定內含著悲哀，念念於回憶和希望，我們其實總
是渴望所沒有的。因而我們的笑聲總充滿著痛苦，我們最甜蜜的歌總講述著最悲哀的心
緒。' 只有雲雀，那個精靈，可以真正地無可迄及地歡樂和無憂無慮! alas...
For mortals, the experience of happiness is bound inextricably
with the experience of sadness: dwelling upon memories and hopes
for the future, mortal men “pine for what is not”; their laughter
is “fraught” with “some pain”; their “sweetest songs are those that
tell of saddest thought.” But, the speaker says, even if men could
“scorn / Hate and pride and fear,” and were born wit... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********e
发帖数: 3006 | 5 米诺斯(Minoan)文明大约和中国传说中的夏代同时代，是古希腊文明的开端。她主要集中在今天希腊的克里特(Crete)岛，自公元前20世纪起在岛上修建了大大小小的城镇。公元前14世纪，在此前火山爆发和大海啸中受到重挫的米诺斯文明为原本的附属国迈锡尼(Mycenian)王国灭亡并继承，类似于夏灭于商或者商灭于周。
米诺斯是个独特的文明。米诺斯人宁可亡国，也不能不美。例如：米诺斯各个城市几乎没有城墙，却有大量精雕细刻美丽的装饰廊柱，以至相对落后的迈锡尼人来朝，仿佛刘姥姥进大观园，惊呼米诺斯人住在迷宫里。例如：米诺斯的男孩在年轻时会在腰上焊死一个漂亮的铜带，终身不能取下 -- 这样他们强迫自己永远保持苗条健美的身材。再例如：米诺斯要周围落后民族进贡的东西，不是食物或者武器金属，而是漂亮的男孩女孩。。。
米诺斯的壁画、雕像和人类其他早期文明的艺术品相比，更强调人物漂亮的脸和华丽的衣服，而不是乳房阴部这些朴素的生殖意向。也就是说，其他文明的先民们对性的追求基本停留在野兽水平上 -- 只要是个母的就行，乳房阴部占据了雄性动物的主体意识和大部分注意力；而米诺斯人已经开化，更讲究情调、美学享受。
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s***n
发帖数: 812 | 6 "[注2] 在这个周五的下午，选择写诗而不是干正经工作，实在是一件美丽的事。席勒(Schiller)说艺术(Arts)和美学
(Aesthetics)是唯一能够解决人类内在冲突、和谐理性(Reason)和感性(Sensible)的方式。诚哉斯言。"
留言表示对注2的羡慕，，，
囧，找很久莫找到注在原文中上下文，是单独附录性质？莫上下文，空泛的借题fahi发
挥一下，希勒这观点于他的时代已经称的上"古典＂，在我眼中是发而中节，但是不准
确的古人朴素含混（而幸福）的观点。这个古典观点reformulate一下类似Socrate,
Hegel之徒所谓：human (wit and will) are sufficient to expel despair ... 此处
括号或有具体指称，艺术，科学，道德等等。。。
这乐观古典的幸福观点，我无法理解--就是说，作为需要正常生活维持的人，我能随波
逐流的猜测其他人类对此的肯定态度；但对这结论本身，作为个体，我无法体会其合理
性，也不能将这观点internalize...如果将它视为待证命题：那么我不仅毫无证明它的
头绪，而且就我做人的intuit... 阅读全帖 |
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h*********r
发帖数: 7786 | 7 相公周末好
同羡慕
"[注2] 在这个周五的下午，选择写诗而不是干正经工作，实在是一件美丽的事。席勒
(Schiller)说艺术(Arts)和美学(Aesthetics)是唯一能够解决人类内在冲突、和谐理性
(Reason)和感性(Sensible)的方式。诚哉斯言。" |
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o******e
发帖数: 19 | 8 听朋友介绍说星球挺好看的, 看完之后想发表一些意见, 注册之后才发现要三天后才能发
贴子. 三天真是个漫长的时间, 现在讨论的人也少了, 一些情节看了也忘了. 为了抵抗
这三天时间的流逝, 俺还得重温一下.
小说确实不错, 特别是开头, 心理描写细腻. 不过印象最深的是对时间把握. 抵挡时间的
流逝已是整个小说conflict, 人的孤独和渴望爱情的来源. 其实人有两样是无法defy的,
一个是时间, 一个是fate. 至于小说对人的挣扎的描写, 俺觉得还需要更多的conflict
才行, 要不然显得有点无病呻吟.
记得有人从哲学角度分析. 俺觉得Kierkegaard是最合适的. Boredom is the worst
enemy of aesthetic life. 其实小说里的K根本不存在, 是陈郎抵抗孤独的武器而已.
>>>说到底，我想写的，不是几个小资女人的爱情故事，而是人的挣扎。人抵抗时间 流逝
、抵抗空虚的努力――爱情只是其方式之一。 |
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g***a
发帖数: 3 | 9 比较欣赏"punchline":
Beset by great evil, a person can be wise, observant and disillusioned and yet
not depressed. Resilience confers its own measure of insight. We should have
no trouble admiring what we do admire -- depth, complexity, aesthetic
brilliance -- and standing foursquare against depression. |
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or
发帖数: 720 | 10 3Q~it's good to read the whole story through & through. now i got a bit
lynny's point that her role as a wife & mother interplayed in the writing. &
this piece of writing is not a novel anyhow, & may not be speculated on with
aesthetic habbits..
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wh
发帖数: 141625 | 11 说到olympia的时候我想起来了，看到过这个女导演的介绍和剧照，那篇介绍中也说她
是纳粹御用导演。
我咋觉得sontag的思维非常极端化，非此即彼，非sexy就是chaste, 很两极化。不过好
像搞社会政治评论的人都这样，否则没法推销自己的主张。她这是什么倾向，右倾自由
主义？好像政治上的左右和文学上的左右是相反的？我觉得一般说是右倾自由主义分子
的，像胡适那样，都比较平和。sontag的against interpretation我记得非常激进，if
not偏激。这篇感觉也是。
她把所有的流行艺术时尚都归为fascist aesthetic, 严格说来也不错吧：只要成为时
尚的，都有一群人狂热追求，也都标举一种理想。那是很像fascist了。不过作为个人
而言，有理想，有形而上的追求，完全没错的。只不过万事都要适度，理想和现实要保
持平衡。fascism源于德国哲学，德国哲学一向很形而上，很metaphysical，走到极端
就产生法西斯。但不能因为法西斯，就完全否定形而上的追求；这本来也是自然人性的
一部分，没有好坏可言，全看人怎么用它。sontag似乎非常反对理想的追求，所以 |
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h*****n
发帖数: 93 | 12 German Idealism (4)
Lessing, Herder, and Others. Klopstock and Wieland mark the turning-point
toward idealsm. However, their contemporary, Lessing, was the first
representative of the movement to liberate himself completely from
conventional theology and all that was arbitrary and external in
German culture and find in the inner aesthetic and ethical development
of the mind the ideal to be followed. Idealism in the sense in which
the word is here used became even more effective in the work of He |
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h*****n
发帖数: 93 | 13 German Idealism (6)
Early Views of Fichte and Schelling. The basis of the aesthetic-ethical
movement was Kant transcendental idealism. But while Kant made the
idealistic position secure, he had not accounted for the reality of the
world of nature, with all that it means to the poet as the expression
of some divine purpose. To get at the bottom of the matter, it was felt
that human consciousness as a starting-point would have to be abandoned
and an absolute consciousness posited. From this realit |
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x**d
发帖数: 88 | 14 Contents:
Divisions of
Philosophy
Metaphysics
Epistemology
Logic
Aesthetics
Ethics
History
Ancient
Medieval
Modern
Philosophers
Aquinas
Aristotle
St. Augustine
Berkeley
Descartes
Dewey
Frege
Hegel
Hume
Kant
Leibniz
Locke
Mill
Nietzsche
Plato
Rousseau
Russell
Spinoza
Wittgenstein |
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t*******r
发帖数: 2940 | 15 Based on engineering principles and economics. Sometimes intuition and
Aesthetics. |
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发帖数: 6300 | 16 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_beauty
Argument from beauty
The argument from beauty (also the aesthetic argument) is an argument for
the existence of a realm of immaterial Ideas or, most commonly, for the
existence of God.
History of the Argument[edit]
The argument from beauty has two aspects. The first is connected with the
independent existence of what philosophers term a 'universal', see Universal
(metaphysics) and also Problem of universals. Plato argued that particular
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t****e
发帖数: 2737 | 17 http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2012/08/31/thai-group-says-ste
KHLONG LUANG, Thailand – When Apple founder Steve Jobs died after a long
fight with cancer last year, software engineer Tony Tseung sent an email to
a Buddhist group in Thailand to find out what happened to his old boss now
that he’s no longer of this world.
This month, Mr. Tseung received his answer. Mr. Jobs has been reincarnated
as a celestial warrior-philosopher, the Dhammakaya group said in a special
television broadcast, and h... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******n
发帖数: 1648 | 18 Chinese students at top universities 'less creative than others'
New study adds to concerns over the weakness of Chinese university teaching
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/chinese-students-top-universities-
less-creative-others
German students are more likely to name artists as creative people; their
Chinese counterparts named politicians and scientists
Chinese students at top-ranking universities are less creative than those at
less prestigious institutions, a new study has found, wi... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 7947 | 19 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/08/fashion/forgoing-a-shortcut-o
Welcomed With Open Arms in MumbaiBy MAY JEONG
THE weekend I turned 24, I fell in love with a man I would write home about.
I was traveling through India, the kind of trip you take in your early 20s
when you are full of questions and have no answers. I was sure that love was
a social construct and that the future would remain a question mark. I had
convinced myself that if only I could drift along the backwaters of Kerala,
all would ... 阅读全帖 |
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m*******r
发帖数: 7495 | 20 【 以下文字转载自 Switzerland 讨论区 】
发信人: moonpolar (处女+天秤=双子), 信区: Switzerland
标 题: 巴黎：在遗忘前（上）
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 10 12:05:50 2011, 美东)
巴黎，是不可能遗忘的，遗忘的只有细节。
然而，面对这颗千年以来欧洲最璀璨的明珠，我连细节也舍不得错过。
该如何描绘这座城市？如果没有时尚的眼光、优雅的品位、艺术的思维和历史的内蕴，
似乎很难捕捉到她的精髓和神韵。但每个凡夫俗子都有其眼中的巴黎，原谅我平淡的语
调，请随我一道领略仲秋巴黎绝世丰神的冰山一角。
巴黎城郊每年向法国贡献着超过全国总量四分之一的GDP，人文、艺术、科学、文化、
历史在这里冲击融汇，世代流芳。这座城市每年吞吐着280万来自世界各地的游人，拥
有超过3800个historical monuments, 世界文化遗址四处之多。相比，意大利这个世界
文化遗址数目世界之最的国家，总共也不过47处而已。巴黎，当之无愧成为全球第一大
旅游城市。
出发！
先品一道气场强大的美食，才好漫游。
此行从位于法国巴黎市中心... 阅读全帖 |
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K****N
发帖数: 10783 | 21 Orange
If orange is your favorite fruit; it speaks of a person who has enduring
patience and willpower. You like to do things slowly; but very thoroughly
and are completely undaunted by hard work. You tend to be shy; but are a
reliable and trustworthy friend. You have an aesthetic bent of mind. You
select your partner with care and thought; you love with all your heart, and
are not in for just a fling. You avoid conflict at all costs.
Apple
If apple is your favorite fruit, you are an extravagant |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 22 Gina Trapani:
That’s the thing about Apple marketing. They don’t talk about how many
gigabytes of memory or how many CPU cycles or how many apps (much). They aim
for your heart, and show you how technology can make your life better
during its most important moments.
http://smarterware.org/6190/lessons-from-apple-on-advertising-and-aesthetics
PC时代这些spec确实很重要。现在iPhone上显得不那么重要，因为OS本身足够light
weight，这些指标提升确实会更快，不过差别不像1GB run Vista和2GB run Vista那么
大。 |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 23 No. I believe it is just not enough QA and Apple got too confident with its
industrial design. Aesthetics of industrial design often win over pure
engineering. But WTH, it is part of Apple's core value. Apple did make great
stuff before. Apple also made beautiful failed products before. This is
just Apple. |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 24 Are you seriously going to put a computer next to your TV in the living room?
Do you really want Apple, or other PC/hardware makers, to ruin your living
room aesthetics like that? |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 25 Of course it has something to do with aesthetics.
The set top box should be the smaller the better.
Imagine a desktop computer next to your TV.
Since you can stream videos and contents from your computer, it is not a big
problem. If would be better if Apple TV can stream from a harddrive
connected to Airport Extreme. |
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j**h
发帖数: 173 | 26 Hardware acceleration could be great for battery and performance. Apple has
it for H.264 even on iPhones. But
that is just an excuse for Adobe, because it's not a new problem in MBA, it
has been a problem since years
ago. Adobe has ignored OS X for a decade until they were called out by Apple
in public. Besides poor
performance of flash and Acrobat Reader on OS X, they have horrendous anti-
alias rendering in Adobe Air. The
aesthetics of Adobe Air on OS X is unbelievably bad, yet they are a com... 阅读全帖 |
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d****p
发帖数: 685 | 27 Haha, nice.
Agree that UNIX's UI is too dump while windows one (specifically Win7) is
too gaudy. Actually Window's class theme pretty nice, aesthetically as good
as OS X.
OS X's goodness is its built-in shell and powerful UI features like expose.
Windows' shell is a bit shabby even cygwin is installed. |
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R*N
发帖数: 2173 | 28 http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1126985
The Purpose:
To help anyone on the fence between buying a MacBook Pro or MacBook Air.
Hopefully make their decision a little easier.
Backdrop:
I had a tough time deciding which to buy in the first place. I was put into
this situation because of HP doing what HP does best...failing. I bought a
nice HP Envy 17 and had it for about 2 weeks before ultimately returning it
because of a noticeable wobble, screen static, and part of the chasis was
out... 阅读全帖 |
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l**t
发帖数: 6971 | 29 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/opinion/mona-simpsons-eulogy-
A Sister's Eulogy for Steve Jobs
I grew up as an only child, with a single mother. Because we were poor and
because I knew my father had emigrated from Syria, I imagined he looked like
Omar Sharif. I hoped he would be rich and kind and would come into our
lives (and our not yet furnished apartment) and help us. Later, after I’d
met my father, I tried to believe he’d changed his number and left no
forwarding address because he was an... 阅读全帖 |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 30 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
weidong (伊拉克学习小组副组长) 于 (Wed Jun 30 21:54:59 2010, 美东) 提到:
很无奈, 本来IPAD是个很风险的东西, 结果大热; 相反, IPHONE系统应该很成熟了,
结果出了大问题.
我想了一下, IPAD这个东西实际很奇怪, 他没有专门的FUNCTION, 你拿他画画, 看书,
玩游戏, 看书, 或者实在不堪看毛片, 所有的功能都是你定义的. 但是由于IPAD的
新颖性, 你可以用很不同的方法实现你定义的功能, 比如, 躺在床上用各种体位看
毛片. 于是我们很满意.
IPHONE就不同了, 功能已经预先定义好, PHONE, 如果这个出问题, 整个系统会受到
很大的怀疑, 至于那些锦上添花的东西, 由于没有下层建筑的支持, 就成了很虚无缥
缈的东西.
在长叹一个. 还是跟乔总的桀傲不驯的性格有关系.
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microbe (天涯思君不可忘) 于 (Wed Jun 30 2... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3492 | 31 Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:10:06 PDT
The plethora of court cases between Apple and other companies over
trademarks, design decisions, and patents have only occasionally offered
anything of interest to the average observer. Today, however, The Verge has
dug up a treasure trove of images of early iPhone and iPad prototypes.
Early designs include an eight-sided iPhone with diagonal corners, early
Sony-inspired designs, and another model that has the same aluminum-based
design as the old iPod Mini.
Of part... 阅读全帖 |
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w********2
发帖数: 16371 | 32 here is the info about the apple's complain:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/30/3199424/apple-vs-samsung-tria
the 4 main patent in this case:
The front speaker slot, uncluttered front face, display borders and the edge
-to-edge glass of a smartphone.
The home button, uncluttered front face, rounded corners and the front edge
border of a smartphone.
The general grid layout for icons, and a dock of separate icons at the
bottom of a mobile device display.
The thin bezel, outer edge border, rounded c... 阅读全帖 |
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 33 BAD STUFF
Design is disjointed and confusing in places
Aesthetic improvements can't mask missing functionality
Icons everywhere are horrible
我确实不认可这个评价。
Today, as it rolls out to users everywhere, iOS 7 is still on most levels
the same operating system it’s been for six years. Meanwhile Android has
become a fun, efficient, flowing operating system that makes it easy to move
data between apps, easy to share things, and easy to see only the
information you need at the moment. Where iOS 7 still fee... 阅读全帖 |
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c***d
发帖数: 756 | 34 你估计自己都没看完吧。
Digital Watches Are For Nerds
And about that. The Apple Watch is an incredible piece of engineering, no
doubt. It is still not as cool as a mechanical watch, to real people. This
might change with time, but my feeling is that not any time soon will a
digital wristwatch, no matter what it's capable of, be considered "cool." I
am talking pure aesthetics, and 100 perfect superficial judgement here, but
at the end of the day, I don't see people that love beautiful things
wearing this wi... 阅读全帖 |
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x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 35
It proves that Ivy really has no taste at all. It's really Job's sense of
aesthetic that made all the previous apple products look so good. |
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n*w
发帖数: 3393 | 36 看了wiki的art定义，art是product or process of deliberately arranging items。
应该不是发现规律？
“Art is the product or process of deliberately arranging items (often with
symbolic significance) in a way that influences and affects one or more of
the senses, emotions, and intellect. It encompasses a diverse range of human
activities, creations, and modes of expression, including music, literature
, film, photography, sculpture, and paintings. The meaning of art is
explored in a branch of philosophy known as aesth... 阅读全帖 |
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f******o
发帖数: 2469 | 37 The Very Best Expression of Slim Aesthetic
Ultra slim with very light weight design
Breaking away from traditional notebook designs, the concept of the X340
takes inspiration from the lightness, elegance and richness of a feather.
The most unique feature of the X340 is its size-0.24" at its thinnest point,
0.79" at its thickest, and weighs a total of 2.7lbs with the battery -
making the X340 the world's lightest and slimmest 13" notebook.
http://www.msimobile.com/level3_productpage.aspx?cid=92&i |
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o********e
发帖数: 474 | 38 大片大片的单色是什么意思，欺负色盲色弱患者么？我看到不合眼的颜色就想吐还用解
释给你听为什么么？
大片大片的翻牌一样的动画你是不是嫌眼睛还被电脑屏幕损害不够？头还不够晕?
字体又大又细，大小不一，完全没有任何科学原理，费眼又难看又难辨，阅读速度降低。
完全搞不清什么是有用什么是没用，导航把用户当傻逼，function, aesthetics一个都
没达到。
微软这种没有品味的最好不要搞什么花里胡哨的，太恶了。 |
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n********k
发帖数: 2818 | 39 As you folks are discussing Cori, I happened to read his autobiography and
find it both interesting and enlightening:)))...BTW, it sounds Richard Axel
is a lot nicer than what I/we have heard...or in another word, his cruelty
is rooted in his obsession with science and indifference to humanity:))); As
well, it is pretty...he noted Cori but left his ex out...pretty human or
not human?
Autobiography
Richard AxelNew York City is my world. I was born in Brooklyn, the first
child of immigrant parents... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 525 | 40 JOB DESCRIPTION
Electronic Design Engineer
Level: 3+ years’ experience in analog and digital circuit design.
Terms: contract to hire (12 month)
SUMMARY:
We are looking for an enthusiastic Engineer who is passionate about product
development. The candidate will be working closely with scientists creating
the next generation sensing technologies. The candidate will collaborate
with a multi-functional team to build cutting edge opto-electronic chemical
sensor products. The candidate will be part of... 阅读全帖 |
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y***0
发帖数: 65 | 41 【 以下文字转载自 ME 讨论区 】
发信人: yc500 (yc500), 信区: ME
标 题: 苹果Plastics/Metals tooling engineer工作机会
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon May 11 03:42:23 2015, 美东)
不知这是最合适的版面嘛?
有兴趣的同学请把简历发到[email protected]
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大致的介绍:
1.
Apple is looking for an experienced metal tooling and process engineer to
provide a technical interface between our product design groups and our
suppliers, and to drive development of world class metal forming tooling and
processes at our supply base. This individual will be expected to assist in... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******e
发帖数: 1171 | 42 Thanks for the reply.
I read the Bylaw in detail and it reads:
“In order to insure adequate aesthetic controls and to maintain the general
attractive appearance of the project，
。。。
No owner, resident, lessee, invitee or other person, with or without the
purported consent or cooperation of any owner, resident or lessee, SHALL
PARK, STORE OR MAINTAIN IN OR ON THE PROJECT ANY BOATS, TRAILERS, CAMPERS
OR OTHER VEHICLES NOT CUSTOMARILY USED AS A MEANS FOR GENERAL
TRANSPORTATION."
I think putting a bo... 阅读全帖 |
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y***0
发帖数: 65 | 43 不知这是最合适的版面嘛?
有兴趣的同学请把简历发到[email protected]
/* */
大致的介绍:
1.
Apple is looking for an experienced metal tooling and process engineer to
provide a technical interface between our product design groups and our
suppliers, and to drive development of world class metal forming tooling and
processes at our supply base. This individual will be expected to assist in
the product design process through Design for Manufacturing (DFM) input, as
well as direct our suppliers in the design and manufacture o... 阅读全帖 |
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