l********u
发帖数: 823 | 1 I don't think there is any valid ground to make any comparison between the
firms w/o knowing the details. |
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a*****a
发帖数: 1038 | 2 normally, medium size companies treat employees much better than nationwide
big size companies do. Since there are too many talent enmployees in big
companies. Unless smaller companies, big boys do not care much about
keeping their employees. |
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a*****a
发帖数: 1038 | 3 Probably not. But anyway, I really appreciate your words. |
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l********u
发帖数: 823 | 4 seems the size of the firm matters. In my LG's firm (top 1 on the ENR list),
an employee with 2-year experience could be considered as senior because
people come and go very fast. In my firm, a mid-sized one, many people, I
mean >70%, have been here for 10+ years.
My boss started with a fairly big firm and got fed up after a few months.
His experience with that firm made him hate consulting. He thought about
quitting engineering consulting for a while. Before he found anything else,
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j**********g
发帖数: 20 | 5 Jacobs? Fluor?They are not pure environment company. No wonder you can get a
better pay. |
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l********u
发帖数: 823 | 6 my pay is only fair, not high.
anything special with Jacobs or Fluor? I haven't heard about these two names
before.
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f********o
发帖数: 173 | 7 已经很久了，都=没有很多事情可做。天天在办公室里坐着真是难受。每个星期能用到
20个小时的billable hour就已经很不错了。大家说说我是不是要被裁了？ 关键是老板
没有什么新项目，我也没办法。今年形势真的是这么不好吗？
另外，大家知道一般公司要裁人，能给几个月的工资呀？
谢谢了！ |
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l********u
发帖数: 823 | 8 coverage?
为什么超过100%？你的vacation hours没有用掉，全都工作了？要这样，那些没用掉的
vacation hours应该可以折合成钱给你的。 |
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s******w
发帖数: 42 | 9 真的没人跟我一样有这种不人道的goal啊~~~~不活着了，连个互相安慰的人都找不着！
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s******w
发帖数: 42 | 10 您哪家firm啊？consulting还可以这么flex? 我们这儿大到PM都有个goal，虽然meet不
meet可能也没人care...可是压力还是有的。
Most |
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m*******e
发帖数: 438 | 12 每个公司都有这个goal??
真没人跟我提过一个字啊..
not |
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a*****a
发帖数: 1038 | 13 Has your group leader discussed with you on your performance plan?
Theorectically, your annual billiable hour requirement is one of your
performance measurements. |
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m*******e
发帖数: 438 | 14 完全没有..
是不是就意味着少用病假,少用vacation和unpaid time?? |
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p*******g
发帖数: 31 | 15 utilization is the word we are using. but 100% is kind of crazy. our
company sets the goal of 85% for associates and low-level managers. |
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t*****i
发帖数: 19 | 16 first level goal 1900 hrs, but the company say that we should all go for the
2000 hr goal...so yours is not the worst... |
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a********g
发帖数: 38 | 17 给活的时候我就说，这个事情我只有xx小时的budget，能不能做。这样就送走一部分人
。剩下的人当中自然是谁办事细致就找谁了。Billable hour这个制度在国内叫项目精
细化管理，相当于在企业内部引入了bidding structure。国内还不太流行，大家普遍
还接受不了这么残酷的观念。 |
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l********u
发帖数: 823 | 18 这个billable hour，今天午饭的时候我还跟一个manager（他上个月荣升公司董事会，
变成公司owner之一了）提起，觉得不过是一个控制预算的手段呢。觉得本质上跟教授
们拿出40%的资金给学校做overhead没有本质区别，似乎跟竞争没啥关系。要是这样
bidding的话，新来的岂不是活不下去了。 |
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h****s
发帖数: 911 | 19 和公司的客户有关和项目的大小也有关。如果是public sector的，multiplier虽然比
较低， 项目
比较大的话，长期来讲人人都很billable自然赚回来。 private sector的话，没有2.6
到３拉一
下在淡季要吃不消。 general overhead 很多是case by case的， １０到１５％很正
常，算是
最容易赚的一笔
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h****s
发帖数: 911 | 20 来自主题: Environmental版 - 一些建议 what kind of the remediation? Phase I/II? CAD, gint is the basic tech to
keep junior personnel billable during the down time. Never use aquis
means you never work on groundwater plume modeling. The project we did
for Valero, gw modeling is based on gis/aquis.
gINT GEOTECHNICAL AND GEOENVIRONMENTAL SOFTWARE
gINT® provides the industry's most popular geoenvironmental and
geotechnical software for fully customizable borehole/boring and well
logs, fence diagrams, geotechnical testing and other |
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h****s
发帖数: 911 | 21 Well, you are very welcome to PS another hourly rate showing ppl what's your
"real" hourly rate. Don't tell me you can't make it.
Do accept my sincerely sympathy to your desperate feeling. Everybody has to
go through this at certain moment, whoever manage to reach the other side
will be the winner.
Your boss and PM have to make sure you are at least 90-95% billable, so that
they can stay with 50% bill-ability and spend rest of the time in the gulf
course, or pub marketing etc etc. Maybe You can |
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h****s
发帖数: 911 | 22 I don't mind ppl think I am arrogant at all, as long as my clients don't
feel that way.
One time another team complained to the principal saying I have very
arrogant altitude. I asked the boss how's the client's feedback? He said
that clients were very satisfied with my work.
I ended the conversation with " as a minority and foreigner, whenever
american call me arrogant or aggressive, I take it as a compliment." LOL
BTW, nice inputs.
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h****s
发帖数: 911 | 23 In my graduation commencement, Billy Joel, a guest speaker said " do
what you like, don't just do it for the money. Because in case you fail,
you still can enjoy the process."
I assume most of ppl here enjoy doing environmental work, and that's why
experienced ppl like me and others were trying to show you the bright
side of this career.
However, this world is never lack of ass holes just like everywhere. no
a perfect world, I can handle it. |
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G******e
发帖数: 235 | 24 能推荐一下这方面的书吗？Thanks!
If you have something more like, mechanical (pump, gate,
valve, actuator, blower...), instrumentation and control (PLC, interlocks),
your resume would be more shiny, which makes you unique from other
candidates. This is what I called "广". Somebody may say "come on I don't
any background on those" ....Go get a book.... |
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m*****m
发帖数: 10 | 26 HUANGS说的不错，我所知道的几个大些的工程咨询公司的OVERHEAD都是200%左右，所以
PROPOSAL上$90的rate拿到手里只有$30，这还是包括了退休、保险等福利的数字，真正
以工资形式（税前）拿到的还得减掉30%左右。 |
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O********e
发帖数: 775 | 27 $95/hr 能拿一年吗？
contract 一年 一review？ |
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m*****m
发帖数: 10 | 28 是啊，所以一个工程师年薪5万的话，那末到外面去BID项目的时候就得按差不多20万的
RATE来报价。要控制预算的话，就得压缩每一项TASK的小时数，这就是为什么在咨询公
司出活儿快的人受欢迎。 |
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Y**L
发帖数: 397 | 29 Should be 工资低而且出活儿快的人受欢迎. |
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w****g
发帖数: 1070 | 30 说那些一点意义没有。看的是你能拿到的，your salary。不是公司能赚到的。 |
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z****o
发帖数: 373 | 33 Just share the number you know here (for regular construction jobs). I would
like to know a second opinion although simply comparing overhead rate is
meaningless.
The number I mentioned was from a local consulting firm owner two years ago.
Overhead rate varies over time. So I guess I have no right to argue its
accuracy. The company I currently work for has master contracts with most
major consulting firms. Due to the type of agreement (nearly zero marketing
cost), the rate is much lower th |
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h****s
发帖数: 911 | 34 Things will be significantly different if he have edges on engineering
design or business development. Every general ppl can do field work and
write phase I/II report after certain training.
The worst thing should be company requires a senior guy to train a junior
personnel for his replacement. So, be careful, grab as much work as you
can and keep the young guys lazy and stupid. |
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p*****u
发帖数: 21812 | 35 150%一点也不奇怪,尤其是做政府项目的
另外和做的项目的领域也有关
overhead!!! |
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d******3
发帖数: 209 | 36 I did not reply because I do not want to argue.
Besides, it is not allowed to discourse the specific number.
But URS policy, multiplier >2.67 for Federal agencies, >3 for private, which
are the bottom line!
When u argue, better to have specific number and real base, alright?
" The overhead rate is a component of net multiplier. Overhead expenses are
all costs not chargeable to specific projects such as rent, utilities and
insurance. The overhead rate indicates the relationship of all indirect
ex |
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p*****u
发帖数: 21812 | 37 也没什么argue不argue,讨论一下对于大家对这个行业以及不同公司都会多一些了解.
就以150%的overhead和10%的profit算,multiplier是2.75,这个虽然不高,但也不是ridi
culously low,比你上面说到的那个URS政府项目的底线还是略高. 另外政府项目的钱多
,这个rate还是可以接受的.
我们公司和URS都在做当地市政府的同一块废水项目,URS的项目在10M以上.我不知道URS
的overhead是多少,但是以我们公司的rate推算,URS能有150%也就不错了 (我不清楚市政
府对于参加同一块项目的所有公司是否要求相同的overhead).
which
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Y**L
发帖数: 397 | 38 经常看到大家问怎样找工作，刚毕业的环境工程师年薪是多少，如何和公司讨价还价，
公司给的薪水是否偏低。找工作的经验之谈，不管有用没用的，本版或其它论坛都有不
少。大家多多考古。关于工资，在这个坛子里没有人会说自己拿多少，但基本上都是唉
声叹气。确实，这行刚毕业拿高工资的不多，没办法和金融计算机比。为让大家多一点
找工经验，在找工作时对工资有个参照，现将笔者知道的一点信息告诉大家，希望能对
后来者有所帮助（注：本文只适用于H-1b）。如版主觉得有用请置顶。大家也可随便转
载。攒点人品。呵呵。对了，以前还写过一片“Billable Rate，工资及找工作 （1）
”， 链接如下：
http://www.mitbbs.com/article0/Environmental/31162915_0.html
这篇就叫“找工作及工资（2）”吧。找工作，总结起来不外乎两条：海投和找关系。
大部分人包括笔者自己都认为最终还要靠运气。不过运气由老天控制的，大家还是要做
好自己那部分。首先吧，找工作就是不断地改简历的过程。起码要做到针对每一个位置
有一份特制的简历。关键词要有，贡献也要有。背景不符的那些部分，... 阅读全帖 |
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g*******g
发帖数: 1164 | 39 不景气啊。
同学们的office都不招人。我问了个遍。好几个人都担心billable hour不够。 |
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d******3
发帖数: 209 | 40 经济危机阶段，我头两年要求99%。第三年要求97%。现在反正都是>100%，就不知道
goal是多少了。 |
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l**u
发帖数: 118 | 45 get a government job if you have green card.
hate billable hours |
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l**********r
发帖数: 240 | 47 Actually I think it is a tough choice for the firm. Unlike in NYC, clients
here generally can't afford high billing rate. So they kind of use the
billable hours to compensate for that.
I think he could have gone to a top20 firm at that time(Mcdermott?). The
reason that he stayed with this firm is probably because his girlfriend (now
wife) took a job here with another top firm---my guess:)
And my guess is that you are an in-house counsel:) Laid-off possibility is
abrogated since somehow I feel th |
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l**********r
发帖数: 240 | 48 Well, that just leads us back to the bottom line---there is essentially no
occupation in the US by which you can make easy money. I think I have
mentioned this ShiXiong who had to struggle with a goal of 1950 billable hours
as a patent prosecutor. Although I think very highly of myself, I seriously do
not think I will be able to handle that challenge any better. It could
conceivably be more difficult for me if the fact that he did much better than
me in law school is given full consideration... |
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o****e
发帖数: 195 | 49 Not sure about incoming JDs, but there are many LLMs who plan to go back.
So far I know Orrick and WSGR are hiring Chinese IP litigators -- there is a
big influx of litigation from China/Taiwan, and they simply don't have enough
people who has a tech/law/language combination.
4.
other
each
case
happens
write
a
lower,
essentially
billable
better
another |
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l**********n
发帖数: 12 | 50 我知道的都是part time 读JD的，4年。10万刀＋3万多学费，必须帮你办绿卡，1800 b
illable hour,要知道其他律师的billable hour都得2400 小时的。如果你已经有了JD直
接去律所做的话起薪比同时进来的associate高的。 |
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